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at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it's second quart1:00 p.m. in t 10:00 a.m. out west. we begin this hour with a live picture of donald trump's rally in portsmouth, new hampshire. his first two rallies today amid the latest allegations of sexual misconduct. he's been denying the charges at his latest rallies and this morning on twitter. here's what he said moments ago about one of his accusers. >> it's a rigged election. because you have phony people coming up with phony allegations with no witnesses whatsoever. ending up from 20 years ago. 30 years ago. how about this crazy woman on the airplane? okay? i mean, can anybody believe that one? how about this? after 15 minutes, we don't know each other. after 15 minutes, she said, well, that was too much. and i decide -- 15 minutes? with the ladies in this place, it would be one second, and it

would be smack. >> hillary clinton is off the campaign trail today after weighing in on the controversy at a fund-raiser in seattle last night. >> he has now said that he's going to engage in scorched earth attacks, as if what he had been doing wasn't already scorched earth attacks. maybe one of the additional arguments you can make to those friends who may be straying is if we do our job in 25 days, donald trump will stop being on the news every single day. let's go now to bangor, maine, where in just two hours trump is set to take the stage for his second rally of the day. jacob rascon is there. trump just wrapped up another rally in new hampshire. let's talk about what he is saying today. >> reporter: he's doing a lot of the same. what he did yesterday. which is going after his

accusers and talking about a rigged election. these are two big themes that we're seeing a lot of, and he is doubling and tripling down on them. you heard him there calling his accusers, one of them, at least, crazy. calling another horrible. calling all of them liars and phony, and saying behind all of it is a conspiracy. the press is involved, he said, with the clintons. it's even global. and i'll tell you, when we talked to his voters, and i don't mean all kinds of voters. i mean from the educated or not college educated or not. women, male, whoever they are. most of them will agree with trump. they believe that if trump loses this election, that it will be because it is somehow rigged. whether they believe that that's just heavy bias or actual rigging with people who are dead or undocumented voting. i mean, this is not something that trump and his voters are separated on. they're very together. and, again, on the issue of the women, most of the voters we talk to coming to the rallies

will say they believe that these women are lying. whether it's because they believe what trump has put forward in the campaign with this british man challenging the account of the user from 30 years ago, they say if you can discount one, then they're all discounted. they truly are in step with trump on these two major issues, sheinelle. >> and jacob, just in the last hour we heard that trump's ohio campaign has -- the gop chairman. what does that tell you about the state of the race really in such a crucial swing state? >> reporter: not just the crucial swing state, may be the only swing state where right now he's ahead in the average of polls. and barely. trump in the middle of the summer was doing very well in critical swing states. he had gone from behind in double digits all the way to tied or ahead in places like colorado, making up a double digit deficit and even pennsylvania. but in ohio, he stayed ahead. and so for this to happen in ohio, it does seem to say

something significant about the state of the race. all right. nbc's jacob rascon, thanks for talking with us. meanwhile, we are hearing more from the women accusing donald trump of sexual misconduct. as we said, he's fiercely denying the allegations. none of which have been independently confirmed by nbc news. at least eight women have come forward this week. one of them was a former contestant on "the apprentice." >> he then grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast. >> the person on my right, who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump, put their hand up my skirt. >> we know that -- that people who are sexual predators will go after anyone who happens to be available. no matter the person's age, no matter the person's race. no matter the person's, frankly, sometimes gender. it's because they're accessible, because they just happen to be there. >> the stories are total fiction. they're 100% made up.

they never happened. they never would happen. i don't think that happened with very many people. but they certainly aren't going to happen with me. >> and now there is a second woman, a former miss usa contestant who has come out in support of trump. she says he always acted professionally around her. >> we met him at miss usa on stage, fully clothed. we never saw him or anyone on his staff behind the scenes, backstage, where women are getting dressed. >> joining me now, seema meta, political reporter for "the los angeles times." and alex seitz-wald, political correspondent. seema, i'll start with you. your reaction to trump's defense, particularly his characterization of these women who are accusing him of this misconduct. >> i think his defense that he's totally denying it, saying it happened decades ago, why are they coming forward now. this certainly plays with his supporters who believe him. the other interesting thing about his defense is that for a number of these women, he's basically said, look at them.

they're not attractive innovative for me to hit on. which i question how well that will play with women voters in swing states. >> and alex, i want to play for you what trump said moments ago. and we'll talk about it. take a listen. >> hillary clinton should have been prosecuted, and she should right now be in jail. instead of being held accountable, hillary is running for president in what looks like a rigged election. >> alex, talk about who trump is talking to here when he brings up these conspiracy theories. >> right. and that is really the best word to describe them. they are a conspiracy theories. i mean, especially in these last few days, as more and more women have come forward. he has alleged they are part of this vast conspiracy of the clinton campaign, the media, bankers have been involved. department of justice. parts of the u.s. government. all kinds of various people are involved to bring him down. and he's basically telling his

voters, it's you and me, against the world. they're going to come after you, they're going to try to destroy you, they hate you and i'm the only thing stopping you, i'm the only thing standing between you and, you know, being destroyed by these global elites as he likes to call it. and that's very typical of the way conspiracy theories work. you start small, with just these accusers say being paid off by the clinton campaign. but as more and more people ce out, he has to expand it and expand it. and so far, his voters i think have been kind of going along with him, as jacob was saying. most of the voters we have talked to believe him when he says that these women are wrong. but the more who come forward, and if they keep coming forward, every day, before election day, it's going to get harder and harder and harder for him to make that case. >> speaking of coming forward, let's talk about the other side. we saw first lady michelle obama and the president address these allegations and powerful speeches this week. and by the way, there really isn't anybody on the trump side on this level really to do his bidding. so do you think the obamas' words will have an impact on

undecided voters, particularly maybe even republicans on the fence? >> right. i mean, i think michelle obama's speech -- we know she doesn't like to do speeches, she doesn't like politics. we don't see her as often on the campaign trail as perhaps we have seen other people. her speech this week was really unusual for her. and she decided to go off-script and she appeared shaken. her voice was shaking. and i think that, you know, if you're an undecided woman, i think -- i would think that would have to leave some sort of impression on you. she put it in terms of being a mother and her daughters, and everybody's daughters and sisters. and i really -- i wonder about the impact on undecided women, on conservative women who are perhaps wary of donald trump's candidacy. >> and alex, i'm wondering as trump fights these claims, is clinton missing an opportunity to reach more voters by laying low, or we just talked about the impact of michelle obama. is this a good time her to kind of lay low a bit? >> right. i mean, that's kind of the core question that any campaign faces. when your opponent is in trouble. do you try to pile on, make it even worse for them, or do you just lay low and get out of the

way? that's clearly the second, the strategy the clinton campaign has adopted. she's out on the west coast doing fund-raisers and what little we have heard from her, she is kind of channelling the disgust that a lot of americans are feeling about this election. you played the clip of her saying trump will be off the news in 25 days if we do our job right. earlier she said sometimes she just wants to look at cat gifs and turn off the news entirely. but she has this great advantage of having these very powerful surrogates out there, like michelle obama, like president obama, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders are going to go out tomorrow. joe biden has been on the stump. so she can kind of let them do the dirty work, let them take the shots at donald trump and she can kind of rise above it, especially in an election when people are feeling very negative and don't like to see candidates going into the mud like that. that's advantage for her. >> we have this latest batch of e-mails from wikileaks about the campaign. do you think this would have garnered more attention if clinton was running, let's say, against another candidate? >> absolutely. i mean, that's one of the things

that donald trump has had to deal with this week. let's not forget, earlier this week, he spent the early part of the week basically going to war with establishment republicans, with house speaker paul ryan, arizona senator john mccain. so this is not the enemy he should be targeting right now. he should be fully focused on hillary clinton. so he was talking about his establishment republicans and then spent the second half of the week talking about these accusations of sexual misconduct. so this is completely, you know, drowned out any discussion of the e-mails. and the e-mails are interesting. there is some interesting stuff in there about bill clinton's speeches to wall street. some controversial comments about catholics, latinos. and it would be getting more play if there weren't these other stories. >> do you have a sense for how the campaign will handle the leaks? we saw poe testa joke about them. is it clear she is taking this seriously? >> is a nuisance, a distraction at a minimum and at its worst, could be bad for

them. keep in mind, wikileaks has over 50,000 of john poe testa's e. tails. they pace they have been dribbling out, they continue doing this every day until the election day, pretty much. so, you know, something new is coming on the pike every day and they don't know what it is. just today we got a new batch, and there appears to be three full transcripts of hillary clinton's speeches to goldman sachs at various events in 2013, right after she left the state department. we're still going through those, but there is some interesting revelations in there. and it's just -- you know, they wake up every day not knowing what's going to be coming in the latest batch of releases. >> don't you think donald trump will use wednesday to pounce? or what do you think? >> i mean, i think if he's smart, he will. and if he can stay on message, he can stay disciplined, he's had difficulty doing that in the prior two debates. but, you know, i think that's what a lot of smart republicans are kind of telling the trump campaign now. stay focused on this. use these e-mails. >> seema, what about you? your expectations for wednesday night. for really, both candidates. >> i'm really intrigued to see how he behaviors.

he has to know this is a do or die moment for him. i expect him to be incredibly aggressive. he has been aggressive in the last two debates. the question is, can he remain focused and really will the gate or prosecute these charges and allegations raised in the e-mails or is he going to get distracted and talk about, you know, the allegations and the conspiracy against him, and questioning the legitimacy of the election. if he can say focused he has an opportunity to make -- have a moment. >> one thing is for sure. we can't predict what he will say or how he will act. seema meta and alex seitz-wald, thank you for talking with me. ominous tones while donald trump is claiming the election is rigged, a published report in today's "boston globe" says trump supporters are openly talking about a violent rebellion if trump doesn't win. is this a valid concern? political analyst ginsburg joins me to talk about that, next. hillary is running for president in what looks like a rigged election.

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donald trump is railing against the women who accused him of sexual misconduct. here's what he told his supporters in a rally yesterday. >> it's not hard to find a small handful of people willing to make false smears for personal fame. who knows, maybe for financial reasons, political purposes. or for the simple reason they want to stop our movement.

they want to stop our campaign. very simple. >> joining me now is msnbc political analyst, ben ginsburg. thanks for talking with me today. >> hello. >> let's start with what you heard there, that trump's accusers want to stop his movement. talk about this. how plausible is this claim, and then what this movement is, and what's the strategy behind this ben? >> well, if you're aittle bit more than three weeks out for an election, and you're not talking about the issue that is are important to the voters, then you're making life difficult for yourself and ultimately winning. it's true that there is an -- a lot of things he's got to answer for. but the important thing is what are the issues that mean the most to the lives of regular americans and it's probably not the personal issues of a candidate. >> with that said, that's all everybody is talking about. if you go to social media -- in fact, just a few hours ago, trump tweeted, quote, look at this. this election is being rigged by the media, pushing false and

unsubstantiated charges and outright lies in order to elect crooked hillary. he's warning of a stolen election. what are the implications here? >> well, the implications of it, and what's really been a cornerstone of the democracy is that people do have faith in their institutions. there's a very interesting survey by nate pursely, a professor at stanford, and john cohen from surveymonkey that says fully 40% of the country has lost faith in the democracy, in our institutions. that would be a warning sign for anyone who hopes to govern. whether it's donald trump or hillary clinton. because the compact of the country has always been that we do have faith in our institutions. that we do accept the results of elections. >> but what if it's just a tiny group? so here's a report from the

"boston globe." it says in part, they believe what trump has told them over and over that this election is rigged and if he loses it will be because of a massive conspiracy to take him down. if trump doesn't win, some are even openly talking about violent rebellion and assassination, as fantastical and unhinged as that may seem. that's the concern from so many people. even if you have, let's say, 99% of the folks who say, you know what, this is the way we go. if you have 1% of people who want to revolt or are that angry, should we be concerned? >> yeah, i think you always have to be concerned. one thing that the donald trump candidacy has done is point out a discontent in our society. a lack of faith in institutions. whether that institution is the presidency or congress or media or scores of others. and so the country, the democracy to work, always has to take that into account. and the trump kanld days has

pointed that out. the 40% figure that pursely and cohen talk about tells you that that's cutting across party lines, across income lines. and it's a warning sign for the country as a whole. >> i want to take you back to florida and -- i think our viewers need to know, you played a central role, obviously in florida and the election and the recount years ago with bush. tell me this. did you worry even then about people being concerned it was rigged? >> well, look. when you get in a recount, in a close election, there are always a number of ballots that are in dispute, and lawyers being lawyers, we like to talk about how votes either should count or shouldn't count, depending on the results of that recount. we were always concerned. and i'm sure i know that the gore folks were always concerned that the legitimacy of the final result, whatever it is, would be acceptable. it frankly is one of the reasons

that both campaigns put a lot of people out on television, talked to the media to discuss the process, to give some confidence that the final result, when it came about, would be accepted, even if people didn't like it. >> i remember gore being very gracious in his defeat. would trump need to do that? i'm saying that, but i don't know, frankly, ben, if he would. >> well, look. al gore was incredibly gracious in his defeat. richard nixon in 1960, when goodness knows he had grounds to contest the election, decided not to. for most of the same reasons. in other words, we do have a bipartisan history of people -- of candidates accepting the results of the election. so we also have a system where it is possible to monitor what happens on election day. and so donald trump supporters and hillary clinton and her supporters and supporters for the senate house and local candidates should take advantage of what there is in state law

for poll-watchers and poll-monitors to be able to be sure and have confidence that what happens in polling places is done according to the rules. and if it's not, to employblow whistle in real-time on election day. >> all right. let's look forward to wednesday, ben. let's just say for some reason you're just amazing and you are the man who has mr. trump's ear. what would you say to him? what would you like to see, or how should he display himself in this final debate? >> well, look. mr. trump, obviously struck a vein with a large number of people as he talked about being the disrupter to change things in washington versus the establishment candidate. when he talks on that message, that's when it resonates the most. again, to talk about personal issues, is sort of off-topic for what's going to bring more voters to your side. i mean, presumably, donald trump

thinks he's still going to win. thinks he's still going to win. then it's important to say what he's going to do programatically for the country. and also to give people some faith in the election results. >> good discussion. i don't want it to end. ben ginsburg. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. nice to be with you. firing back. nbc news reports the u.s. is planning a cyberattack on russia in retaliation for allegedly interfering with the u.s. election. we'll take a look at the implications of that in just a bit.

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rhetoric coming out of trump's campaign on the idea that this election is rigged. and he had a series of tweets this morning, talked about it in his speech today. talking about the media, in particular. he says, colluding with the clinton campaign to rig the election. so the clinton campaign is responding, saying, quote, elections should be hard-fought but what's fundamental about the electoral system, it's free, fair and open to the people. participation in the system and particularly voting should be encouraged, not dismissed or undermined because a candidate is afraid he's going to lose. they also say this election will have record turnout, because voters see through donald trump's shameful attempts to undermine the election weeks before it happens. so i do think there is some concern among both democrats and republicans about this kind of rhetoric, republicans talking to me a little bit about the system, how it's built, transfers of power, basics of

american democracy and whether trump is pushing forward and what that could mean for the end of the election. >> i was going to talk to you about the fact that clinton is staying off the campaign trail. clearly, it doesn't mean her campaign won't react when we have things like this. >> of course. and she has let her surrogates do the talking for the most part. she has -- she was out at a fund-raiser yesterday. we're not expected to see her before the next debate. >> let's talk about what the plan is to deal with the wikileaks, especially during the debate. >> today we are seeing and we should remind everybody that nbc has not authenticated these. the clinton campaign is not authenticating them. they were hacked, stolen from john poe testa's golden valley ma gmail account. this is the eighth straight day of releasing the e-mails, a series of transcripts. bernie sanders very focused on this in the primary, demanding repeatedly she release the

transcripts, she got paid in some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars to give these speeches. now, we already have some idea from this document of the content in these speeches. what had been released already were the clinton campaign's pitfalls. they were doing some opposition research on themselves and putting together a list on what they thought might be the most damaging things she had said in some of these speeches. we're still in the process of going through and seeing what else might be in there now that we actually have a chance to look at some of these full transcripts, purportedly, anyway, ourselves. but i think what we're seeing so far is a little bit of texture, behind the scenes sense of how she engaged in conversation with these groups. she talked at some length about policy in syria, about policy towards china. she even talked about having to deal with the repercussions of wikileaks releasing all of those cables when she was secretary of state, talking about how she had to go and apologize to other world leaders. she called it the clinton

apology tour, and said it was extraordinarily difficult to deal with. so a little bit of irony there. >> looking forward to wednesday. clearly, she will have to have something prepared as a response. >> i think you're going to see them respond the same way they have so far. which is to say that this is evidence of the russia government trying to interfere in american elections. and you have seen the u.s. government get closer and closer to that is as the days have worn on. saying they believe russian intelligence is involved. nbc news reporting that intelligence firpgs are saying there may be retaliatory strikes against russia over this. i think, you know, they have essentially refused to engage on most of the content of these e-mails and instead simply saying this is all aut vladimir putin trying to screw up the u.s. election and throw it to donald trump. sheinelle. >> yet another busy day on this saturday. kasie hunt. >> not a dull moment in this campaign. >> let's go to nbc's hans in this case olds. what do you know about this counter strike?

>> reporter: we know the cia is prepared to act, poised to act on a counter strike. the president himself has not issued a green light on this. an operation like this would require presidential authority. so the cia has a plan ready. this is according could current and former intelligence officials. u.s. officials saying that they are really putting together a battle plan. unlocking already this cyber doors and the goal would be to be both clandestine and embarrassing to senior kremlin officials. the white house has tellgraphered the possibility, and insisting it will be proportional. there was high-level conversations here at the white house, and as of last night, the president had not made a final decision in giving that green light. >> the big story, really quickly, hans. i have to ask you. so many people are tweeting me today, people asking the question, why do we even know? it seems like this is an unprecedented cyber assault here. but a lot of people feel like this is something that frankly we shouldn't even know about. >> reporter: well, it's really

testament to reporting of some our colleagues at mbs news. we have gone through all of the proper chabls and in some ways could be getting the back side of what sometimes our bureaucratic fights in washington. i'm not saying that that is the case here. but that could be without revealing too much, could be sort of one theory on why this is coming out. but again, these are current and former u.s. officials that are giving us an insight into what may happen. and, again, it has not happened as of, i should say, last night. sheinelle? >> fair enough. hans nichols, thank you so much for talking with us today. still ahead, behind the scenes. up next, a miss usa pageant contestant talks about how donald trump consecutiducted hi when she was vying for the crown. and changes to the electoral map. fewer ways for trump victory. nbc's katy tur anchors the entire hour from portsmouth, new hampshire. guess what guys, i switched to sprint. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference

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of sexual misconduct. at least eight have now stepped forward with some alleging improprieties as far back as the '80s. i spoke with miss north carolina usa 2006. samantha holvey. >> it was great until he lined us up and went down the line and just kind of looks you over and not in i way i was accustomed to competing in pageants before, where the judges are looking for poise and confidence and, you know, kind of your personality kind of comes through. and this was not like that at all. this was very much just a looking you up and down, and just like we were objects. pieces of meat. i wasn't expecting that. >> we reached out to the trump campaign about your story, and it responded with no specific comment. but there are a lot of people who are asking, you know, why tell your story now? ten years after the fact. why not come out when he first

announced he was running for president? >> well, i've been telling my story, my experience every time anybody asks about my interactions with donald trump or my experience at miss usa. i've been talking about it for years, sharing it with, you know, friends and family. i don't work in the media. i work for a health care i.t. association. so i'm, you know, in a different profession. and this was just the first time anybody, any media, had ever asked me about my interactions. for the girls that didn't have the experience of having him backstage, i'm glad for them. i'm glad that they didn't have that awkward moment of this man coming into a very private area. i'm glad that they didn't have to experience that. and, you know, i didn't -- he didn't ask me who i thought was the most beautiful or anything like that. but i can only share my experience. they have their own experiences, and they want to speak out about them, that's their business. i encourage everybody to share

their story if that's what they're comfortable with. this country has an issue with how we look at women. and the lack of respect that we have for women in this country. and i just -- i can't sit back and condone his behavior by not sharing my experience when i've been asked. >> we reached out to the trump campaign for reaction to samantha holvey's story. while donald trump has categorically denied all accusations, they did not specifically respond. they have offered direct answers to two other accusers. wikileaks, will they even matter come election day? that's next.

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24 days before the election, and the latest political forecast doesn't look good for donald trump. after analyzing the most relevant polls, 538.com gives trump a 14.5% chance of winning.

clinton roughly 85%. the highest percentage since last august. that gap was far narrower back on september 26th, the last day the divide was just within ten points. meanwhile, donald trump has just wrapped up his first of two speeches today. this one in portsmouth, new hampshire. the republican nominee wasted no time letting loose on the women accusing him of sexual misconduct. >> you have phony people coming up with phony allegations with no witnesses whatsoever, ending up from 20 years ago -- 30 years ago. how about this crazy woman on the airplane, okay? i mean, can anybody believe that one? how about this? after 15 minutes, we don't know each other. after 15 minutes, she said, well, that was too much. and i decide -- 15 minutes? with the ladies in this place, it would be one second and it would be smack. >> let's bring in elise jordan,

"time" columnist and msnbc political columnist. good afternoon. can i just tell you, he's also been involved in every presidential campaign since 1972. there you have it. >> oh, dear. >> let's start with you, elise. what you just heard from trump. i mean, are his people in the background just wondering what he's going to say next or just used to this at this point? >> as i'm watching trump in rally after rally this week, and especially as the -- since the explosive video last friday, he is kamikaze donald trump right now. he is just bringing himself down, and he's trying to bring the republican party with it. i hear him on stage, not only talking about his accusers and how their looks are not, you know, great enough where -- he wouldn't sexually assault them because they aren't beautiful enough. statements like that. not only that, but he's talking about jeb bush. is this a guy who is trying to

win the presidency? >> i know. really quickly, before i talk about trump. because we can do that for the next 20 minutes. this is just coming out. >> i want to get your take on this. breaking so i want to get your take on this. wikileaks has released the content of e-mails, if these are what they purport to be, what do you think we'll find out? should they worry? >> i don't think they should worry at all. >> you don't? >> no. and i think the answer to lisa's question is his kamikaze campaign, he's no longer running for president, he's selli ining subscriptions to his radio and tv ad. because the core of those two candidates are solid now. although there's margin of error

that suggests there might be a possibility for him. overall, the women who are with him, are with him no matter what is said. >> the challenge over the last couple of hours, everybody has said, the latest revelations with wikileaks, this huge story, you see how quickly we're not as worried about what could be in them, shouldn't we ask the question? >> it reenno, sir re-enforces t that hillary clinton is deceptive. more fodder for her critics who say she's dishonest, she's one person in private, she's another person in public. and trump as done the same thing. >> donald trump is driving suppression of voters.

he's making it very difficult for people to want to go to the voting booth. the koch brothers are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep people from going to the polls. >> people are sitting here thinking how? >> because there has been record hispanic religigistration in arizona, there's been so much new voter registration and that's in part a testament to the clinton foundation's boots on the ground. >> even with those polls that say this is a slam dunk for hillary clinton, but it's not. >> in this crazy election year, in this kardashian society we're living in, anything is possible. the margin of error may be

twice, maybe three times what's normally shown. so it suggests that everything is up in the air and it's changing day by day. the one thing tohat's not changing is that donald trump's got a core group of supporters, we don't know if that's 30 million, 40 million or 50 million people, they're not moving no matter what's disclosed. >> they're not moving, and that's 35% of the vote. donald trump has locked down 35% of the vote, but that's not enough to win the presidency. >> one of our colleagues was interviewing one of trump's supporters early this morning, and two words jump out at me, she said the word conspiracy i don't know how many times. >> and i heard an unbelievable

contradictory message system that donald trump has, how is he on one hand the victim, and on the other hand the winner. it's extraordinary. >> what do we do with that? >> it's a post truth political environment this year and i think that's what so many people on both sides of the aisle who want to play fair and play by the rules and present truth to the american voters, they're having such a struggle. because when you're living in an era when conspiracy theories are propagated by one of the main political candidates-- >> i'll get, mails from 50 million people that you don't know the truth. we'll look forward to both candidates, i won't say what do they need to do, because it's not like trump is going to listen to anybody but himself. >> krystchris wallace is a veryy

skilled fire starter. clinton is going to have to wear a pants suit to avoid donald trump trump's -- if she just simply shows up, is quiet, aggressive, but certain and confident, she'll be fine. >> is that enough? >> what's so incredible about these debates is that donald trump has had such an opportunity, if he would go in there and show a minimal amount of knowledge and kmocomposure, t is enough for these swing voters to swing in his direction. but because he looks so unstable, he makes it really hard for these supporters who would like to support him, but he's absolutely unhinged. >> right before going into it, people were saying, oh, he's toast, it's not going to work.

his actual performance was technically better, he was more serious, chris christie played a huge role in debate prep. and it was way better, he was way improved from the first debate, if you can slip aside the bill clinton accusations and those stunts, but what he did was harm himself so much by the side show distraction and that's the narrative. >> if he wasn't blind slided by these allegations of sexual misconduct-- >> he's going to talk about hillary clinton's reaction to bill clinton's alleged improprieties and that also worries me, because again, it's suppressing the vote. millennials that i have talked to are on the fence about voting for not donald trump, but for hillary clinton. the more they hear, even as

distorted as it is, they are less enthusiastic. >> and the questions need to be managed about how the clintons managed those allegations in the 90s. they have such a different memory of it, learning about it now than at the time it happened. >> that does it for me. katy tur reports live from new hampshire where donald trump just wrapped up a while ago. have a great day. but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands.

hello, i'm katie tur live. donald trump just wrapped up a campaign rally and made a new allegation against hillary clinton. >> i think we should take a drug test