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i do. why don't we do that? we should take a drug test prior -- because i don't know what's going on with her. but at the beginning of her last debate, she was all pumped up at the beginning, and at the end it was like, take me down, she could barely reach her car. so i think we should take a drug test, anyway i'm willing to do it. >> we start the hour with trump in full attack mode in new hampshire today denying a mounting number of sexual assault allegations against him. >> you have phony people coming up with phony allegations with no witnesses whatsoever, ending up from 20 years ago, 30 years ago. how about this crazy woman on the airplane? okay. can anybody believe that one? how about this, after 15
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minutes, we don't know each other, after 15 minutes, she said well that was too much and i decided -- a minutes? with the ladies in this place, it would be one second and it would be smack. >> eight women have come forward in the last week accusing him of unwanted groping. nbc news has not independently verified those accounts. this burn it all down strategy comes as trump's poll numbers have taken a major hit this week. nbc's new battleground map shows that clinton has an easier path to the 270 electoral votes needed to win. >> this election is being -- they're attempting to rig this election. they will not succeed. >> right now the candidate is headed to a rally in maine and that's where we find nbc's jacob
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rascone in bangor. >> reporter: if there were more accusers, it would be more proof for a lot of the people we talked to here that the election is rigged, that somebody is trying a big smear campaign against donald trump. you saw that the trump campaign put forward a british man who is challenging one of the accusers from 30 years ago, that's being brought up by a lot of the accuser who is say, look, we know that at least one of them is lying and if one of them is lying, they're all lying. and we're talking about not just males but females, not just young but old, all types of voters here saying the same thing in step with trump. take a look here. >> if something happened in his past, he has apologized. all these things that are coming
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out this week i believe it's all made up. because of what he's running for, he's running to be president. >> reporter: so you think it's a big smear campaign against him? >> yes, he is a good man, with a good heart. >> reporter: a mother as you said there, a devout catholic and a nurse, and it's all combined for them. sometimes they don't mean explicitly rigging, only that there's bias in all of the media, and they're cozy with the clintons and it's all part of a big smear campaign, so when trump gets up early in the morning and tweets about this, they believe him even if a lot of supporters would add that they hope he gets back on the issues. >> jason, you speak to voters every single day, have you heard
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anybody say there's something donald trump can do to make them reconsider their vote? >> yesterday we asked one of these real true believers that same question, she said, only if hard evidence came out that he actually killed somebody would i wait a second. but if there was hard evidence that all of these accusers were definitively telling the truth, there were tapes, would that change your mind. they might pause and they that would be really unfortunate, but this is bigger than trump, i'm voting for the future of the country. >> as he said, he could shoot somebody on 5th after. joining me now, we have a reporter round table, mark halperin, the editor of bloomberg politics, cindy graham, and ryan williams,
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republican strategist a spokesperson for mitt romney and also a former new hampshireite. is he doing an adequate job, can he grow his base from here? >> it's interesting that he's denying the allegations, he keeps the story alive when he tu talks about it. he does run the risk of alienating more people, when you're attacking people, rather than denying the allegations and showing sympathy for the situation, you're going to offend some people, without a doubt. this is still an evolving story, even if no more accusers come out, he's got to deal with it. >> he keeps saying he wants to talk about policy and his campaign clearly wants him to talk about policy.
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but throughout this entire campaign we haven't seen an interest in talking about policy. >> he gave four speeches in which he talked about his accusers. he also talked about the drug problem here, and off prompter, the kind of risks that you see, that hillary clinton should tyke a drug test. and the more geral thematic, which is the strongest argument, which is america needs change, i stand for change and she doesn't. >> he does read the prompter, that's generally when he's on script, on message talking about policy. yesterday, i forgot where we were. charlotte, north carolina, he took down the teleprompters, and rebecca you wrote about this today in the "washington post," you said it was a good metaphor for his campaign, what do you make of him not being able to
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stay on message and literally taking the message out from his sights. >> we have 24 days left in this election, every minute he spends talking got these allegations is another minute he's -- we kind of take a look at the prepared remarks that are sent out and the actual transcript as it comes in, and in the last few weeks, we have seen the percentage of -- his advisors would much rather he steer clear. >> ryan, you know new hampshire better than anyone, this is a state that is key for donald trump, he's only down three points here, but does he have the ground game to pull it off? and second does he need the ground game.
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>> i think he's got a very weak ground game in new hampshire, i think his deficit is much larger than three points now, he's really taken a hit in the state. i don't think he has the organization to match what hillary clinton has, she's got a very strong team, and i think it's at a point now where new hampshire is almost out of reach for him and probably not a place where he should be spending time these days. >> but it's a state that's also pretty independent minded, they often like these outside of the box candidates, is he too outside of the box for new hampshire voters, is he going against all of what have traditionally been new hampshire voters? >> he had a chance but he squandered it. this is a state who have had two female governors, and female
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voters have a huge influence in new hampshire and he's done everything within his power to offend them in the past two weeks. he did have an opportunity to reach out and double down on his coalition. he's not doing enough to win this election, 30% of the likely voters are standing their ground, but he's losing with women and independent voters. >> in order to continue on an gain more support, do you think the wikileaks narrative is going to help him with that and is he focusing on it enough, mark? >> first of all there's a lot of little things, semantic things that he and his surrogates have seized on. but hi hasn't talked about anything dramatic. i have heard speeches to go goldman-sac goldman-sachs, all of it goes to the theme that trump wants to --
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they're more directly tied to her to compete with all of the media coverage of these accusations being made against him. >> bill clinton and his accusers painting him as bill cosby. >> i think there's more women coming forward to make accusations against bill clinton, but for some segment of the public, bill clinton is not nning for president and it's not quite the same thing. the realty for donald trump is he's got to do a lot of things to catch up, he's really behind. and speaking from the heart is probably the best thing. i don't know where his heart was, in the past he excused bill clinton's behavior to some extent. >> ryan, i want to ask you a
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question, republican state governor matt bore guess is breaking with the trump campaign. ohio is a state that donald trump absolutely needs to win, what do you make of the campaign for president saying, just trying to dismiss the gop apparatus there. >> well, it's foolish, obviously chairman borgess has not been aligned with trump in the past, but donald trump's ground game runs through the republican party. to pick this fight now, despite the fact that they might have some misgivings with what chairman borgess has said is foolish. it detracts from the message. but that's not the mo of the trump campaign, they have to retaliate, even if they're republicans, and they're missing the opportunity to make her
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record an issue, it's foolish. >> rebecca, last time that new hampshire went to a republican was george bush in 2000, he won by just one point over al gore. what is about these red states surrounded by blue ones? >> it's voters that donald trump feels like he can appeal to, that his message is tailor-made for, this state specifically. and in a way, he could have been right. the issue we're having right now, and it's one that you've noted, is he could be going on the attack against hillary clinton, he could be raising the issues he needs to raise in the final days, instead he's been focused on going on the attack against those who are making allegations against him. that's not necessarily a pitch that's going to resonate with new hampshire voters, these very independent voters, they're looking to hear more perhaps about pushing back on hillary
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clinton, hillary clinton someone who is not well loved in that state hper se, but right now is poised to win that state. >> and mark, one more thing, he just mentioned that there should be drug testing before the debates. what do you think of that? >> right now, any time he's talking about a conspiracy theory, a new one or old one, a lot of people on his team would say that's not the way to go. floating these conspiracy theories, most of those people are already voting for donald trump. >> there are some advisors that like conspiracy theories. >> you've got in the case of steve bannon, you've got two guys who have been happy to engage about conspiracy theories about the clintons for many years. and they're also interested in the theme is that some of the other surrogates are interested
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in. that the democrats have been bad for the . >> the banks, the governor, the leader of the adl said that's close to anti-semitic quotes. >> he wants to edge into rhetoric that is going to be criticize and rightly so. >> rebecca, thank you for being here, and ryan, i hope that new hampshireite was okay with you. >> donald trump's new accusat n accusations and falling poll numbers. and a fight for new hampshire's four electoral votes and what the controversies are doing to republican ticket.
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the election is being rigged by corrupt media, pushing completely false allegations and outright lies in an effort to elect her president. welcome back, we're here in portsmouth, new hampshire where donald trump just finished talking to supporters. with us here in new york, a senior campaign advisor, boris epstein. boris, i want to start by talking about what donald trump just said, he said that hillary clinton should be drug tested before the next debate. why? >> donald trump is obviously usi using hyperbole there, that hillary clinton is not out on the trail, he's referring to the fact that he's out there, working for their votes, rather
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than pedalling awful lies as the hillary clinton campaign wants to do. >> on jessica leads, the woman who accused him of groping him on an airplane, he said, believe me, she would not be my first choice, i can tell you. what does he mean by that? >> it's completely untrue. >> what does he mean by that? >> you would have to ask him, but he has vehemently denied this baseless accusation. >> many people are saying that he didn't find her attractive enough to grope. >> you would have to ask him. the clinton campaign is pedalling these baseless accusations because they don't want the focus on hillary clinton's e-mails, she's been lying about the tpp.
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hillary clinton bald faced lied about the, mails. we knew, but we now know for a fact dthat she's for it. >> and when donald trump was talking about hillary clinton, he said, she walks in front of me, she walks in front of me. you know when she walked in front of me, believe me, i wasn't impressed, what did he mean by that? >> i think we all saw hillary clinton making these power move in terms of walking in front of donald trump. >> he said i was nottism pressed. >> her attempt to be more powerful than donald trump. we weren't impressed by her performance and we won't be -- >> hillary clinton meets in
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secret with international banks to plot the destruction of u.s. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers in order to impress her donors. is this reference that there is people meeting in a back room that includes hillary clinton as well as people in the media in order to keep him from office and to basically, you know, control their and protect their special interests? >> he's summarizing even more of what we're learning from these wikileaks expose yours, hillary clinton gave these paid speeches to goldman-sachs, and brazilian banks that she wants to forego the united states sovereignty. >> to destroy the sovereignty of the american republic? >> excuse me? >> she's trying to destroy or
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solve republicanity. >> she said she definitely wants a country with open borders, which means not a country at all. >> he said reporter at the "new york times" are not journalists, that it' they're corporate lobbyists for corporate billionaires? i believe certain general gen journalists are dead set on hillary clinton winning, the story about women from six months ago. >> name one for me. >> i just gave you two. two journalists whose stories six months ago was completely debunked and now they have pushed forward these stories about these two women, that are absolutely not born out of any facts, it has no independent verification and your own
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network nbc has said that they can't verify these accusations. it's sensationalism, nothing else. >> do you think someone who comes out and is a sexual assault accuser, do you think they should be believed even if there are no witnesses that can corroborate their story? >> as a legal issue, that would have to be a legal procedure and that would be a legal process there, but in terms of sensat n sensationalizing things and using scandals to smear a candidate, unlike that hillary clint clinton smeared women who accused bill clinton in the '90s. >> the court of public opinion, $150,0 $150,000, hard to believe there wasn't any corroborating evidence there. >> what about juanita broderick? >> for juanita broderick, the
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fact that hillary clinton went off juanita broderick. -- to marginalize these women. just last month "the washington post" wrote that hillary clinton was on the front lines of smearing these women. and this campaign is not about bill clinton, it's about hillary clinton and her history, as someone who was not a champion of women, quite the opposite, made these women feel afraid to come out and made them feel smeared and shamed. >> i'm trying to figure out what the trouble standard here is from the trump campaign to talk about how hillary clinton was smearing bill clinton's accusers
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a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. new aleve direct therapy. we're back in portsmouth, new hampshire. donald trump is playing defense against a growing number of sexual assault allegations. alex joins us now from washington, d.c. alex, the transcripts from her wall street speeches seemo be in this latest batch of wikileaks hacks. do they reveal anything interesting? >> we have three new transcripts from events that hillary clinton did with gold man sacks, these
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are all from 2013, so shortly after she left the state department. mostly what we get is a relatively candid view of both foreign and existic leaders. of president obama, she says he's a guy who doesn't like to spend time in the give and take of politics. and maybe he could have gotten mar of his agenda done. and speaker boehner said he would have done better if he stood up against his party. and the political -- she praises the state department press that covers her when she was secretary of state saying they were month interested in the issues at hand. and one final note, katie, she also talks about the previous release from wikileaks, she talks about how she had to go around the world and do what she calls a clinton apology southern, going to all the people who were criticized or
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made fun of or otherwise derided in those e-mails. >> the trump team is trying to use this to their advantage, they're trying to say that hillary clinton is working for special interests, not working for the american people. how is the campaign doing saying that no, she is running for the american people. >> she was paid several hundred thousand dollars for each of these speeches that she gave. she gave many, many of these kinds of speeches, this has been a core of vulnerability of hillary clinton since the beginning of her campaign, obviously exploited by bernie sanders that he was beholden to the establishment. she has has to muddle through, talking about what she would do for ordinary americans, if she
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has these connections, they have been broken on some occasions, you need to work with everybody in the political system. and we'll see if donald trump can prosecute that case stronger on monday. >> and bernie sanders, wouldn't he be one of the best people to address this? >> so far he's basically given clinton a pass on all the content that we have seen so far, he's put out a statement saying the job of the progre progressive movement is to look forward not backwards, and to get together and make change happen. realizing for him to get his agenda enacted, it's better for him to work with hillary clinton than to make an enemy out of her. >> alex, thank you so much, great work as always. next, new hampshire has gone democratic the past three presidential elections, why donald trump thinks he can turn
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welcome back. i'm katie tur live portsmouth, new hampshire. the united states battle grounld state shows that new hampshire has turned from a republican to a dem state. two weeks ago that same poll gave her a seven point lead. david carney, the white house political director under george h.w. bush. i want to start with you, you say you are going to vote for donald trump still? >> yes. >> tell me why. >> i voted absentee.
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i voted absentee. >> are you second guessing your vote? >> nope, i have had the misfortune of being involved in a lot of presidential campaigns, i just know what the clintons would do to the country, and i know trump is a potential risk as well. but i know what hillary clinton would do, and the regulatory havoc that she would rein upon the country, and maybe trump won't be the greatest president ever, but he would be a safer choice than hillary. >> sounds like you're struggles with this a little bit. >> he wasn't my choice, he wasn't any of my choices, hillary clinton, continuing what's gone on for the last eight years, massive invasion of our personal lives and both as a small business person and as a father, i just can't see wanting
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hillary to be our president, and i know that so bad that trump's the alternative. >> shaun you hear that and you hear someone who's struggling with voting with donald trump and you see all these allegations, one after another, and yet people still feel uncomfortable with the idea of voting for hillary clinton. do you think there's anything she can do to combat that? >> for me, presidential campaigns are about offering ideas and a vision for the country and that's what hillary clinton has done since she got into the presidential primary campaign back in april of 2015, and that's what she continues to do now. what i hear from david and what i hear from voters across the granite state is that they're struggling with the fact that donald trump is a candidate who's spiraling out of control. this was never about ideas or vision for him or a specific policy area, it was about launching insults first at his primary opponent and now on stage today, talking about rigged elections, which when you
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really get down to it is a dangerous and its heartening thing to hear from a major candidate for president. >> among democratic women, clinton has a lead of 77 points, gop women, donald trump leads by 41 points, independents clinton leads by just 12 points, can he win if he has -- if these independent women, these 12 points of independent women go to hillary clinton instead of donald trump? >> donald trump had a proem with women voters a long time ago. and needless to say, the last 10 or 15 days have been pretty bad. so what you're seeing now across the country, polls taken in october, a variety of them, have hillary with leads of anywhere from 9 to 33 points among women. so when you look at that, and you look at the fact that objnl 80% of republican women are supporting donald trump now, and only 65% of evangelicals, i'm
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struggling to see how that coalition really comes together for him. not just in new hampshire but around the country. >> clinton has 53% of the men and donald trump has 60% of gop men. independent men trump is leading by eight points. do you think there are enough men in this state that can come out, be comfortable with donald trump in order to make this state or keep this state or make this state, excuse me, a red state. >> first of all the state is going to be competitive right up to election day, independents always swing one way or the other, they decide elections, the partisan base is cooked in and that's the way it is. the fight is for the independents. the traditional campaign, the traditional way we have looked at politics and what's going on now, it's hard to compare apples to oranges there. the point is the country is fed up. "the washington post" had an unbelievable post today. 46% of americans have no faith
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in the government this year. 40% never had faith in the government. and trump is that vehicle. it isn't about the policies that hillary clinton has put out, which she has put out dozens of them. and those are the things that scare people like me, but there is a frustration with our government among all large institutions and i think what trump is an opportunity for americans to say you guys haven't done well, the elite are really doing well, we-are not and we want change. >> it goes beyond that, and we're seeing donald trump talk about a rigged election, and we see voters that if clinton is elected ---my question is, going forward, say he loses, is there
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a chance that republican voters who have been whipped up into a frenzy by donald trump now jeff sessions saying this could be a rigged election, a sitting senator saying this. are you worried about what this does to republicans on the extreme side of the aisle who come out and then try to do god only know what is after this election is over? >> maybe because i'm older, when al gore sued for the first time in the history of our country, in 2000 in florida, no one was saying that on the right, on the left. the point is that fbi and homeland security, they're the ones saying that our election systems are potentially vulnerable to outside attack, they're the ones that raise that concern as well and the fact that in the early part of this today, you had people saying that voting machines were all rigged and somehow dick cheney and halliburton makes voting
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machines and now the elections are all corrupt. voting machines in new york city were rigged before they even got to the polling locations. we have had a long history of people who lose questioning the results. >> they're telling me i have got to leave it here. thank you for being here sitting next to me on this slightly chilly day. next the race for new hampshire is getting interesting, we're going to look at how the contest is tightening. and richard loue lew i is comin next. that limits where you earn bonus cash back. or... you can get the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back
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>> that was donald trump predicting a victory in new hampshire a short time ago. donald trump remains within striking distance of hillary clinton here in new hampshire, a state is ripe for a candidate like trump, nearly 32% are republicans, 29% are undeclared. let's talk about downballot races, donald trump has been wreaking havoc on downballot races, it's a tightening race, after these racist comments, there's a new ad out showing her
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debate comments and accusers talking about groping women. >> on the upside, she's been a fairly popular senator here, she's got a good strong following, i think this whole donald trump issue has obviously been a big albatross for her and her comment in the debate really has been huge fodder for her opponent, witness the tv ads and whatnot. i think kelly aiot really has got no choice, she has to stay her course, she made her bed with the donald trump situation, and she needs to continue to do what she's doing which is avoid the issue of donald trump as much as she possibly can. >> is there a risk that donald trump is such a strong and outspoken candidate that somebody will get into the voting booth, be so appalled by his recent comments and say, you know what, i'm done with republicans, i'm going to go and
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vote down the line for the democrats? >> i think there's always a risk. but he is such an unconventional candidate, he is not an establishment nominee, some main stream republicans in new hampshire are looking at ke-- similar to republicans who want to vote for donald trump because hillary clinton in their eyes is unfeasible. >> absolutely. and when i talk about this wbur poll that shows hillary clinton with a three-point lead here in new hampshire, why is the race so tight? >> well, this is traditionally a state where we're really split right down the middle, we're not blue or red, and voters are very well-educated here, they're very sophisticat sophisticated, and so i think this is a state that has always been sort of up for grabs, at least since 2000 as you mentioned in the last segment and again it is now. she's up by 3, by ayotte in the
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real clear politics average is up by 3. so we have a small portion of the electorate that's splitting somewhere on the ticket. >> given the controversies that continue to surround trump, why is this race so tight here still? is it still because hillary clinton is such an unpalatable candidate for some democrats, that she's not working for the american people, that she's working for special interests, are those resonating in new hampshire? >> i think trump voters are so secure with him and they have been through him with many different controversies and in the last week, they're going to stick with him through this. yes, this is the strangest election process we have ever seen, and that trump is hasuppo
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are hanging on through all these accusations, it's just amazing to me. in november, we're going to elect a president who is more unpopular with the american people than popular for the first time in history. >> allison, he won by a landslide here in the primaries, have voters been telling you anything different in the general election? or are those the same voters you talked to back then? >> i just talked to a woman in the rally and said has anything donald trump's done anything to shake your enthusiasm for him? she said absolutely not? do i like what he did in that video? no, but he's apologized for it and we're going to move on, i'm 100% against hillary clinton and
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100% for donald trump. >> and the union leader did not endorse donald trump during the primaries, he trashed is paper because of it. >> i occasionally get some trump loyalists who mention that they would walk the other way or they joke about it. i didn't write the editorial. but we endorse gary johnson and that's really the x factor there. >> you're endorsing gary johnson? >> and kelly ayotte says they're gog to write in governor pence. and some are going to write in john kasich. >> neil, thank you for being in mana mana manchester, we're just moments away from trump's second rally of the day, we'll check? live when it gets started.
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traveling on the road with a presidential candidate gives you a front row seat to all of the action and there's a lot of things you see and experience that don't always make it on the air. so to give you a new vantage point of what's happening on the ground, we have put together what the kids call a snap chat story to wrap up this week on the road following candidate donald trump, starting with his rally in ambridge, pennsylvania on monday. take a look at this. >> the people are the most loyal ever. the dishonesty of the "new york times" is unbelievable. i knew these false attacks would come.
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right now i am being viciously attacked with lies and smears, that's what's happening to our country. it's what's happening. >> just a small taste of what it's like for us on the road on a daily basis, that's all for me this hour, richard lui picks it up the top of the next hour, where donald trump is rallying in bangor, maine starting in the next few minutes, we will bring you that live. is it a caregiver determined to take care of her own? or is it a lifetime of work that blazes the path to your passions? your personal success takes a financial partner who values it as much as you do. learn more at tiaa.org g new cars.
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and a very good afternoon to you, i'm richard lui and we're in new york city. i'm going to take you now live to bangor, maine. jeff sessions you see there. any moment trump will take the stage for his second campaign stop today. and if it's like anything we heard in new hampshire, we will certainly hear things amped up
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