that does it for us. hallie jackson is right here next on msnbc. >> thank so much. i'm hallie jackson. within the last couple minutes donald trump's running mate speaking in ballots ground ohio when a new polls shows trump edging clinton. that's mike pence trying to put a better face in a campaign that's veered into -- in the final few weeks of the campaign. >> remember, it's a rigged system. it's a rigged election. it's being rigged by corrupt media pushing false allegations and outright lies. even the polls are crooked. look, we're in a rigged system, folks. we're in rigged system. >> no evidence, by the way of that voter fraud. i want to go to my colleagues peter alexander and kristen

welker. peter, you're in green bay, paul ryan's home state as donald trump takes aim at paul ryan, as he pushes they unproven allegations. talk about the strategy here to rile up trump's base, even though it might be alienating the party as a whole. >> all right some people gathering out front of the convention center. donald trump's arsenal of accusations, perhaps the most posant claimed, most posant charge is this idea of a rigged system, which he initially directed largely towards the media, of course, which has been a talking point, as it were, for republicans for years. in the last 24 hours, he's expanded that idea, suggesting that it's not justed media to blame, but problems at polling places. this morning doubling down on what he had been saying. of course there is large-scale

voter fraud over happening on or before election day. why do republican leaders deny what is going on, so naive among the republican leaders who have suggested that they will go along with the results. some of his supporters have been pushing back on the idea of a rigged election. it does resonate with a lot of the people who believe in donald trump, who trust what he's saying and think they've been getting an added unfair disadvantage for many years. hallie? >> all right. i want to get to kristen. in the last few minutes, some national polls showing clinton up it looks like 12 points in a four-way race.

so when it comes to the idea that clinton's lead is between modest and very big, as we look at the graphic, clinton's campaign manager is saying trump is actually helping democrats downballot as they try to sxarchd the map, right? >> re. they think that trump is -- but also creating an opportunity for them to expand the map. secretary clinton looking at states that are traditionally republican-leaning states, in particular arizona. we know that chelsea clinton is going to go there, bernie sanders, and we learned today that the first lady is going to arizona. >> why is that significant? >> first of all it's significant, because the clinton campaign seeing her as one of the top surrogates, but the clinton campaign is doing this, not just to win a republican-leaning state, but because they want to put a big win on the board to blunt this talk of a rigged system. they're really worried about it. they're concerned about what

might happen on november 9th if secretary clinton does in fact win and if donald trump is spinning up this idea of a rigged system. they want there to be no doubt if she does in fact win on election day she's had a convincing win. they're also putting a million into indiana, missouri, looking at utah and georgia. the question is will they visit a state like arizona, so we'll have to see, but this speaks to that two-prong strategy, hallie, trying to have a convincing win, but also blunt that talk, so peter, flip side it then. how concerned should downballot republicans be, and -- what trump is doing could end up hurting them where there are they vulnerable senators competing? >> yeah, it's a significant concern, in states like where we are right now. this is home to the republican senator ron johnson. he's potential vulnerable in his race coming up against the democr russ feingold. think about pat toomey in

pennsylvania, marco rubio, these are all republican candidates downballot who need to outperform, to over-perform donald trump on the ticket. he's down in all of those states right now. in order to win they'll need to do better than they does. what it does, in fact this idea of a rigged system, which may fuel some of the doubts within some of the people in his base, for a lot of other republicans, it serves as a divisive issue within the party and may dissuade them, and anything that sort of damping republican turnout is bad news for those people downballot. >> we're just getting word that hillary clinton has arrived at the hotel where she's holed up for debate prep. one of the things that may come up, the fbi releasing another hundred pages of documentation. what can we report right now. be can report there's been a lot

of attention on 302s which are notes that the fbi takes on interviews about secretary clinton's e-mails. so the fbi coming out with that, at the same time there is new information, as we possibly get wikileaks, alleged to be from john podesta's e-mail account. so wikileaks is getting a lot of tans. the e-mails, in one e-mail, which has a speech excerpt, she apparently talked about the fact that she wanted to take action against wall street for political reasons, and of course that feeds into what voters might call a lack of trust in her. that's been an issue dogging her campaign from the very beginning. so this is something that the clinton campaign is having to deal with at the end of this

race. they're having to answer questions every day. their strategy for dealing with this is to pin it back to the russians, to say that russians are behind this, and essentially that trump is cheering this on. >> kristen welker, peter alexander, i'll see you both in a couple days in las vegas. kellyanne conway thor is trying to thread the needle this morning. >> anybody who reads a newspaper online or in print has probably recognized in many ways the fix is in for mrs. clinton if there is compelling of voter fraud -- >> >> reporter: but there hasn't been any evidence -- >> i didn't say that. if there is, we certainly would take action. >> so that's kellyanne conway outside of trump tower. i'm joined by -- who also served

as battleground -- ladies, thank you for being with us. susan, i want to start with you. trump's allegations about this rigged election have been tough for his senior gas. listen to former congress mast jack kingston this morning. we're going to get to that sound in just a moment. what does it mean, talking about essentially fallout from a rigged system, pushing these accusations. the rest of the party has been to react, be questioned about it. what's the fallout there? >> the senior gas are twisting themselves into a pretzel to answer this. there are many responsible republicans who believe in a transition in power, and that you have to accept the election results. you know, that's unique to him.

what's really hurting, we have donald trump -- and you have hillary clinton talking in a way that she's getting prepared to govern, and being more inclusive. so that's a real problem for downballot races. will republicans who are really turned off by donald trump decide to come out to vote anyway for at least their senate or congressional candidates? >> so it's interesting to me, i just had a conversation with a top republican strategist over the weekend who pointed out, hey, even with all of this going on, trump is still within striking distance of people in places like ohio, in this very important battleground. this wasn't to say that none of this matters, but it was to point out that another candidates might be miles behind clinton. should they be further ahead in, say, ohio because of the couple weeks that trump has had? >> we have to look at the demographics. ohio is becoming less diverse. it's an older state, so i think that playing into the reasoning

why, you know, he's edging her out there. look, donald trump's objective at this point is to only continue to take this race further into the gutter, right? he's doing this by running this black helicopter type of campaign, where he's chasing conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. this rigged rhetoric is dangerous. it's natout beyond the pale. it's not even about the election anymore. if we watch what donald trump has been doing the last 16 months, it's been hateful nonsense, kind of this branding exercise, right? this marketing exercise he's doing. let's be honest. two months from now when we're talking about president-elect hillary clinton's first 100 days, he's going to be launching trumpself breitbart tv. >> i think you're referring to this article in "financial

times" that jared kushner is apparently in talk to talk about a trump tv network. not firmed, but not the first time we've heard about this talk. clinton is playing prevent defense. is that enough for her to seal the deal? >> look, i think there's the potential, right? >> i like the idea of expanding the map, taking a look at arizona. >> cook risky for her. is that counting the chickens before they hatch? >> i think they've been planning how to get to 270. that's the name of this game, getting to that number. she's in a better place of getting there. he is collapsing with that map, right? >> so, susan, if you're advising donald tru right now, what do you say to him? what is the advice you would give him moving forward?

>> there's a different between what type of advice you will give to donald trump and what advice he will do. he says his's unshackled. the logical message is they're trying to say get back to issues. he does better when we talk about change, when you talk about trade, when you talk about hillary clinton's e-mails. the fact they've been complaining there's not been enough press attention on the wikileaks e-mails is because donald trump won't talk about it. he's too busy explaining and defending himself. >> so you think he's to blame for not getting the coverage he wants? >> absolutely. if that's all he was talking about, that's what you would be writing about. but he's talking about hisself, and that'shat he's trying to do, make it about him, so down the road if he wants to be the trump news network, so be it. he will be the only place where the truth will be told is what my guess is his pitch will be, because the media is all corrupt, of course which i do not believe in.

>> the new post from absence any and "the washington post," saying that trump's strategy to attack bill clinton has not word. less than a third cause it a legitimate issue foismt alls hear about this sort of black helicopter strategy, why hasn't it worked for him? >> it's a hard pivot to make from bill clinton, then try to put it on hillary clinton. women don't like that pitch. you're also comparing your own bad behavior to other bad behavior. oh, yeah, you think i was bad? bill clinton is worse. that doesn't get people voting for you at all. >> what's your take? i'm going to pose the same question. what do you tell her to do right now? >> i they she has to continue doing what she's doing. in a couple weeks -- >> and stay off the trail. she hasn't been out quite as much. >> here's the thing. she has surrogates, president obam michelle obama, the senators warren and sanders. who does he have?

they are speaking to those undecided voters, the independent women she'll need at the end of the day, so she can afford to say, let's focus on the debate and doing what she needs to do. >> karine, susan, i appreciate you being here. donald trump as you know, is making claims that the presidential election is rigged. so do you as a voter agree? his to polls.msnbc.com. cast your vote, and some top clinton support clint clinton pulse.msnbc.com. up next weep talk to chris cans about the transcripts he told clinton to release. stay with us. ♪

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wikileaks has released more hacked e-mails said to be from the e-mail account over the weekend. among the drop alleged transcripts of those goldman sachs speeches clinton delivered before running for president, the same speeches that bernie sanders had been calling on her to release. the e-mails have not been authenticated by nbc news. senator, thanks for being here. >> thank you, hallie. >> let's talk about some of these release, saying what i really resent most about the obstructionists is they have such a narrow view of america. they see america in a way no

longer reflective of the reality. they're against immigration for reasons that have to do with the past, not the future. a few sentences later, they say they have to be rejected, because they are fundamentally un-american. so for the people that -- un-american? >> well, i think what secretary clinton meant with that piece of e-mail, which i'll lee mind you hasn't been authenticated and i haven't seen until just this minute. what i think she was saying is america's tradition, america's past seriously donald trump's campaign also as a presidential candidate began with a proposal to ban all muslims from the united states, which is

unconstitutional. are certainly un-american. >> last week, senator, i know you went on and said essentially you believe it's in everyone's best interests for clinton to release the transcripts. do you regret -- >> i'm frank will you skeptical of things released frommic with i leeks, given what we know about intentional actions by russia to try to influence our election. i do generally stand by the idea that more transmarines is better. i don't think there's been bombshells in the releases if there were, i'm sure you would be asking them. >> should she release the rest out there. >> most of the last weeks of this campaign have been dom nated by donald trump's release

tapes in which he was bragging about sexual assault. not anything that was particularly probative or striking or new about the releases from wikileaks. >> should she go ahead and release anything else out there, senator, in your view? >> i frankly think transpatterns is always the better option. this daily drip drip drip that really doesn't amount to much order than daily coverage of the fact there's been more released without any authentication produces steady coverage i generally think transparency is a better approach. >> that actually gets me to another question. i want to pull up a tweet from donald trump in which he said -- wikileaks proves even the

clinton campaign new crooked mishandled classified info, but no one gets charged? rigged. he says. do you work that that is damaging hillary clinton and playing into this narrative that trump has begun to push. >> the most outrageous moment of the second debate in my view is when donald trump called for secretary clinton to be jailed, threatened to have her jailed. that reminds me more of dictators in the third world than what happens in the united states. in my view, this week his theme that the election is rigged and he may refuse to accept the outcome is far more troubling than anything suggestion that's been made so far in these steady, slow, managed leaks by a source that is arguably tied to the russians, i think. >> one on strategy, though. there's been a talk about her alexandering the map potential sending michelle obama to

arizona. is that the right move, or do you work that the campaign is counting their chickens before they're hatched, if you will? >> think there's a great of -- and the democratic campaigns in the key swing states. that makes it possible to the clinton campaign to expand the map. where we also have promises democratic candidates for the senate. i think it's a good things that the missteps, the ways in which he's democrat traited he's simply not qualified to be president, have extended the map. >> senator chris cans, thank you for join us us. on that topic, one deep red states, georgia, now once considered a gimme state for the gop, the first day of early

voting. we're going to check in with some of georgia's voters at the polls today. stay with us. sthoo.

did you know we're in the final stretch to the election? you probably did. hillary clinton and donald trump are each focusing on some of these key battleground states. right now we have this swing state shocker, a new online poll from you-gov shows gentleman somewhere is a toss-up. in the usually reliably red state. that is significant. remember the last time georgia went blue, 1992, back when bill clinton was running for president president. with georgia joining a number of early voting states today, it could be personally divided. i want to go to chris jansing, live to us from macon, georgia,

where she's been talking with early voters. what are you hearing? what issues are important to them? >> they're really anxious to get their vote counted. it does matter a lot. in 2012, half the georgia's voters, almost half voted early. this like hat not been any shorten than what you have seen. we have a waiting area. there's still people standing outside. seven out of the last eight presidents were republican, but could it turn this time? well, maybe, so i wanted to ask them the question, donald trump put it out there. is this going to be a fair election? donald trump says he thinks this election could be rigged. do you think so? >> no, because i think they put every precause in place.

i mean, they've got very diligent about, you know, how things are set up. >> checking i.d.s? >> right, right. >> to say that an event such as the voting for our president to be rigged, i think there's too many safeguards in place. i don't think that's possible. >> it's very possible. it's been going on for years and years. >> reporter: really? >> johnson had cows vote when he was elected. >> reporter: you don't think that's been a wives' tale? >> no, it's not been. they had aady on tv ts morning that had got an absentee ballot for her mother who had been dead for 15 years. >> reporter: so you think they would have accepted that if she filled it out? >> if she filled it out, it's very possible. >> reporter: enough to change the outcome of the election? >> i certainly hope not. >> i voted for hillary clinton. she best represents me and my babies. >> reporter: donald trump says he thinks this election is

rigged. do you think it could be rigged. >> no, i think donald trump is a fool. i really do. >> reporter: so a whole range of answers there, but john lewis, the congressman from up in atlanta area, was actually doing a g.o.t., get out the vote event. democrats argue in fact if the cake is bake against anybody, it's hillary clinton. this state has very strict voter i.d. laws, but it hasn't stop a big crowd, more than 400 so farther at this polls site. what we're going to watch, hallie, in the coming days, does the clinton campaign decide to come in strong, do they decide to put money into advertising. are they going to move people in here to help run some of this get out the vote area. we already saw it in arizona. they're sending the first lady there. will they send a significant

surrogate here. that will have to be decided quickly. only 21 days of early voting to go. already day one. hallie? >> nbc's chris jansing, thanks. that big question whether the clinton campaign would capitalize on some of this polling, coming up, control issues for the gop, as the civil war rages on, new polls shows registered voters would prefer a democratic-controlled congress over a almost one, but not by much. we're going to look at the state of those downballot -- but i want to see your responses. donald trump making claims that the presidential election is rigged. do you as a voter agree? here's the results. 92% say no, but 7% or 8% say yes. interesting. pulse.msnbc.com to weigh in. we'll be right back. hey listen, when you tell our friends about your job, maybe let's play up the digital part.

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the republican nominee slammed the house speaker in a series of tweets. here they are, calling him among other things, a man who does zilch, a man who is always fighting the republican nominee. ryan turns his attention to the republican downballot races, not responding, by the way, publicly to the claims that this is a rigged election. kelly o'donnell, somebody who knows congress pretty well, with some reporting on the gop focus. what can you tell us? >> i think what we are finding is that they expected a bigger fallout from the tape, the audio of donald trump, and there has been some hits, ko rgd to operatives looking at the races across the map, so that's something they're watching closely. on the republican side they're looking at this point at five

key races. many more on the ballot, but these five is where they think control of the senate leg won or lost. of course nevada is currently a democrat ecseat. democrats believe they can hold there. indiana, they have a strong democratic candidate in evan bayh, and then you have new hampshire, pennsylvania, north carolina, a place where democrats are way outspending republicans. republican operatives tell me north carolina is the one they worry about the most. that is the current senator richard burman, again debra ross. this is a race where the obama effect, the sort of boom he property, and some of the trump effect. what we're finding is there are republican candidates they believed are blg judged by voters. whether they break from trump or try to stay with trump to try to

keep those voters, this either option is viewed as a challenge. so this will be a story we'll be talking about in the days and weeks ahead, and it would have a big impact after the ection. it is so close to see who will be in charge, and there's a money game here. democrats are ahead, republicans say they're glad that the bottom hasn't fallen out yet and they're thinking to hold on. hallie? >> kelly o. up in new york, thank you so much. aisles joined by chris willston. hi, chris, thanks for joining us from oklahoma city, i believe? >> you bet, hallie, thanks for having me on. a new poll that's out kind of contradicts the conventional wisdom for gloom and doom. we asked whether people preferred a congress controlled by democrats or republicans, so the pick was democrats, but only by two points.

that's down from six points the week before. what does that tell you broadly about the shape of these downballot races? >> it says what trump is doing in terms of separating himself, attacking paul ryan, attacking republicans in general is actually help republicans. they polls -- it was like christmas for data junkies like me over the. you look at them 'cross the board, right after trump's -- the "access hollywood" tape came out and the accusations, republicans should have been cratering. what these polls how is that they are clawing bulk from the -- from any weight that may be put on them. but it allows something like a joe heck in nevada, or richard burr or kelly ayotte to run a competitive game separate from the top. >> so ought stuff that the pundits talked about for six

months was all wrong? >> i don't know that it was all wrong. really hillary clinton has helped up. you can look at, florida, ohio, and pennsylvania in which they're shows 15 seconds of -- it shows that donald trump is not who the republican party is. it has the effect of helping, like in pennsylvania, patrick toomey in florida, marco rubio, so the conventional wisdom thafb that trump will struggle, but not having the impact on the downballot side. that's good news for republicans ivlgts does this mean a lot of split-ticket voting? >> i think there's no question. >> more than usual in the bob dole saw that his campaign was starting to falter, but bravely,

i have no expectation, but by attacking republicans, it becomes a situation where republican voter on swing voter, female voter e. college educated will still say about a joe heck, he's a different kind of republicans, and i'm going to cast my vote for him on election day. >> before i let you go, an interesting point by aaron black in "the fix." said it's worth noting that clinton hasn't pressed the case that trump is representative of the broader democratic republican party, so democrats might wish she had, essentially pointing out that perhaps clinton should have made a stronger tail to tie some of these downballot republicans to donald trump. do you think he democrats have been doing that enough? >> i hate to give democrats advice, but i think erin is exactly right. in her speech she said donald trump is a different type of republican. you can see that barack obama, his speech last week, michelle

obama, they have now started to tie trump to republicans, but the clinton campaign is for the doing that, because they know that she needs swing voting republicans in a lot of these states. they're going to try to be competitive in georgia, arizona has been talked about. for her to win those states, she's got to get republicans, so it's almost like her and the dnc and democrat, and the d triple c are competing with each other. >> as a republican trump has talked about a rigged election, concerning to you? >> yeah, it's very concerning. i think the impact that could have on the republican base vote could be devastating in some of these tight races. i don't think in the senate race it has an ultimate impact, but you take some of the competitive house races. right now some of them that probably shouldn't be competitive. if you have trump voters who do not believe this is competitive, stay home and not vote for the republican in congress, or state rep, state senate, it could hurt

republicans. there is nothing positive that comes from this. >> chris willston, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, hallie. switching gears a bit. the offensive become launched up next we're going live for a report on what iraq is doing in the effort to retake mosul. stay with us. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options.

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you are taking a live look at the pentagon briefing room. that is peter cook speaking about the new iraqi offensive to try to liberate the second largest city, mosul, from isis control. this is a big deal, backed by u.s. air support, iraqi troops, again that heavily coordinated attack early this morning. we are listening in on the briefing, we've bring i br bring you any news as we get it, but in the meantime we want to go to matt bradley, currently in erbil, i know your signal has

been going in and out, but talk about where this offensive stands. what's the latest? >> so far what we have seen is the prime minister of iraq announced this new offensive. it was with great fanfather. mosul, as you mentioned is the second largest city in iraq. it's been under occupation for two years. so many different elements, all these religious minority and ethnic minority are coming together to retake this city, so it's very important. just today in the hours since the announcement we've heard the peshmerga forces, the kurds, they've moved into the eastern area around mosul and south of mosul we've seen iraqi security forces and many police taking back several villages. this is just the first day in operation, will probably take

weeks, maybe even months. >> put this in perspective. why should this matter to americans sitting here at home. why is this so important? >> well, let's we are, of course, the fact that the united states military spent the better part of a decade occupation iraq, trying to suppress problems here, in a different country to govern. one of the things that's going on, is when the iraqi security forces retake mosul, and all indications point that they will actually end up taking it eventually, no matter how long it takes, this will deal not just a strategic blow to islamic state, but also an ideological blow to them. everything relies on its territory, it's nothing if not a state. that distinguishes it from the predecessor and main rival al qaeda. islamic state has an entity that gives it legitimacy for would-be jihadis. if mosul, the largest city by

far under islamic state control is retaken by iraqi forces that would decrease the legitimacy and the appeal of islamic state. hallie? >> nbc's matt bradley, thanks so much. coming up, back to politics. taking a look at the gop, an what's ahead for the future of the party. donald trump's continued rage against the gop machine, forcen many republicans to ask if he could bring everyone down with him. stay with us. ♪ something new has arrived. uniquely designed for the driven. introducing the first-ever infiniti qx30 crossover. visit your local infiniti retailer today. infiniti. empower the drive.

yes, election day is 22 days out. we are looking ahead to what happens potentially after november 8th, the dprgrowing concerns among republicans, even donald trump loses this election, the damage is already done to the party.

hello, gentlemen, lets dive into some of these. lets start with you, you have the talk of what happens with the future of the republican party. is it going to split? >> i think the danger in the third party of the split. remember if you look back to 1988, the republican party has won an overall popularity majority in the presidential election since then. that's not the position of the party that can afford to go into a third party. they can keep themselves together with the trump conti e constituents and conservatives that's not trump people. >> a lot of people are hanging this on donald trump. did this divide exists before donald trump came around? >> it did, what we are seeing at

trump rallies and what you see everyday when you are out on the trail that the anger and the raw emotions that's there is what we saw at a lot of sarah palin rallies back in 2008. the roots there. there is always been this very angry part that's so bitter of the establishment and the institutions around them that they see as holding them back, preventing them from the success. there is going to be a real push to smash those systems. when donald trump embodies that now, it is a question of what happens after the election . if the polls hold and looks like he's going down, the real question is okay, where do those people go? they're not going to go back to the republican party and nominee

a marco rubio or a jeb bush next time around. they're going to want to fight. >> what happens if 2020 if donald trump loses in december and if we see john kasich or marco rubio. are those potential nominees if it goes in 2020? >> the notion that these people go quietly into the night and accept their defeat and moves on. i don't see that happening at all. you hear it expressed in terms of globalists and anti-globalists, lets call them anti-globalists for now. they feel that trade deals and immigration change the economy for the worst. those people are going to be angrier than ever and you don't see it going away. >> now, you are nodding but flip it. what happens if trump comes back with the most global come back in modern history if he wins.

>> republicans are still appa appalled of what he does fch. if he won, that's a huge shock. but, in that scenario, i think what happens to the paul ryan, they are then alienated from their own party and just struggling to find a place in the broader political landscape. >> where is that place? >> what does the republican party exists currently has to do if trump loses, cola cese the base. >> that would harvest the anger that jeremy spoke about that would appeal to the people who believe that the united states

is fundamentally, and the game is rigged. i am not sure of the middle ground. that's the theory. >> jeremy, last word to you briefly, what do you think? >> i think there are people inside the trump campaign who are trying to figure this right now and students of this movement or donald's closest advisers, they know where the grass roots are going and they know it is not going to go back to the republican party. what they are eyeing right now is what happens if republicans keep control of congress and we have a democratic president and hillary clinton. what is governing looked like? the answer is there is not going to be a lot of governing. >> jeremy peters. thank you very much, we got a

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quick look now at our microsoft pulse question. do you believe the election is rigged. 9% of you say no and 91% of you say yes. we are back on the road tomorrow heading to vegas. on the road for the duration, you should hang out. thank you for watching us. we'll see you tomorrow back at 1:00. now now, more news with my colleague, thomas roberts. the big rig is the big question. donald trump is doubleing down n this claim. hillary clinton is running for president in what looks like like a rigged election. >> the whole thing is one big fix. the election is being rigged by corrupt media