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>> so i will see you back here tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern time. and then i'll be in las vegas, up next. and katy tur. >> hi, i'm in for steve kornacki. live in new york, just two days away from the final debate, and donald trump is intensifying his warning that the election is being stolen. >> the whole system is rigged. and what is why when the media does what they're doing now, that is rigging the system, folks. >> and a new report says that trump's daughter in law may be laying the ground work for a new post-election venture.
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is trump gearing up for a loss in november? also bernie sanders stepping up to the podium any minute now to stump for hillary clinton in colorado, once a key battleground state, now squarely in the camp for clinton. and now, ramping up their fight in states, we'll bring you the latest on the changing strategy. and a new critical game in the fight against isis. officials say iraqi forces launched a major offensive against an iraqi stronghold. the white house is optimistic. >> dislodging them from the city would be a working closely over the last several months to prepare for this operation. >> our own matt bradley has the latest developments. we start with too developments from washington, just released
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fbi documents that have to do with the investigation into aryl server. the trump campaign pointing to what they call a quid pro quo. a deal between the bureau and the state department, although they are pushing back on the claim. it's what's known as a 302, a form for the release of information requested. in those forms, an fbi official talked about a deal and classified information for helping fbi overseas. to explain that, i'm joined by kristen welker with more. >> reporter: you did a great job laying it out, katy. these are notes taken by fbi officials about secretary clinton's e-mails. so they're not exact
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transcripts. and the fbi and state department pushing back against this information that there was any discussion about a quid pro quo. let's put up that document with words on it. what was the discussion? well, this document suggests that two officials were discussing whether one of secretary clinton's e-mails should be a lower classification in exchange for putting the e-mails abroad. they say separately, an official official, not a state department official, an fbi official raised the issues of having more fbi officials abroad. so let's have a look, having been previously unsuccessful in attempts to speak with the senior state official during the same conversation the fbi official asked the state department official if they would address a pending unaddressed fbi request for
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space for additional fbi employees assigned abroad. the classification of the e-mail has never changed, although it was classified. there was never a quid pro quo although it was referred to the proper officials for review. they say there was never a quid pro quo. the state department echos that. take a listen. >> all i can say as i understand the course of events, catherine, as i understand this, catherine, this was any -- any really assertion that this was somehow tit for tat, or quid pro quo or exchanges in that matter, frankly is insulting. this was a process that we worked diligently through the inner agency with, including the fbi. >> katy, there were a number of discussions regarding the e-mails how they should be classified.
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after the fact, there were fights and disputes and this is yet another dispute. again, the fbi said this particular e-mail remained classified. that they never changed that classification. what is striking here politically speaking is that we're less than a month out from election day and still talking about secretary clinton's e-mails. they continue to cast a cloud over the campaign, even as she has opened up a sizeable lead in the polls. >> the initial headline was certainly not something the clinton campaign would have wanted to see. kristen welker, thank you so much, a fellow road warrior. and donald trump stepping up his unfounded claims over the weekend that the election is being rigged by the clinton campaign and the media. >> the whole system is rigged. and that is why when the media does what they're doing now that is rigging the system, folks. it's rigging the system. the election is rigged.
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it's rigged like you have never seen before. they're rigging the system. instead of being held accountable, hillary is running for president in what looks like a rigged election. okay? it looks to me like a rigged election. the election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing false allegations and outright lies, in an effort to elect hillary clinton president. >> and now he is blaming voter fraud for what he warns will be a stolen election. tweeting first yesterday, the election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest media and the distorted media, pushing hillary clinton, sad. and there is a large-scale voter fraud happening on or before election day. why do republican leaders deny what is going on? so naive. i want to turn to peter
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alexander where donald trump is gearing up for a campaign event tonight. peter, no doubt, quid pro quo will be the top agenda for them. >> reporter: yeah, certainly that is what we're hearing is that will be the top of the remarks tonight for donald trump. what is happening is the arsenal of accusations for trump, is this idea of a rigged campaign. we're waiting to get inside the rally here in green bay. they believe there is a strong crowd. they say it does exist. i said is republicans and democrats to blame? and one woman said to me, who do you think? that is something that resonates for the base foronald trump. one said it has the risk of depressing the vote elsewhere which could impact others down the road. >> peter, you're in wisconsin, paul ryan of course from
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wisconsin. this flies directly in the face of what he and other leadership, including governor pence has been saying. how is the donald trump campaign counteracting that, and in effect trying to i guess row paul ryan under the bus? >> well, it's clear, that whatever donald trump said, the surrogates and some of the top supporters were given. we heard from kellyanne conway, she said the idea of the rigged election is focusing almost exclusively on the media. she says that is what he is talking about. she says if there is voter fraud the campaign will certainly contest it. mike pence made it very clear when he was speaking, that he says the d-- it disenfranchises both republicans and democrats
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as well. and we're saying where is katy tur, we're used to seeing you at these places. >> i'll let you have fun at the rally, peter, thank you for joining us. i want to turn now to the national political reporter at politico. eli, thank you for joining us. >> of course. good to be with you. >> talking about this idea of a rigged election, it's intensified over the weekend. can the trump campaign gain any ground with this? >> no, i mean, he is still talking to the converted, preaching to his own base, to people who already don't trust the mainstream media, and who already believe these unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud. but to a lot of swing voters it sounds like you have a candidate in the final days, talking about how he will lose and make excuses for how he will lose before the election is even going on. so i don't think it is doing him a lot of good with voters outside his base. >> and talking about the idea of
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a rigged election, it does seem to resonate. take a listen and i'll talk to you on the other side. >> but we don't want to see people voting five times, folks, we don't want to see it and i've heard stories about certain parts of the state. we have to be very careful. i don't know, maybe you should go down and volunteer, or something, but without voter id there is no way you can check it properly. we have a lot of law enforcement people working that day. we're hiring a lot of people putting law enforcement. >> you have to watch the polling. i hear too many stories about pennsylvania. certain areas. i hear too many bad stories and we can't lose an election. because of you know what i'm talking about. so go and vote and go check out areas. >> this year, we have an election coming up in november 8th. so important that you get out and vote. so important that you watch other communities.
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because we don't wan this election stolen from us. >> eli, certain areas, what exactly does he mean by that? >> he is talking about inner cities and talking about philadelphia. cleveland, places where he is not doing very well at all because there is a far less white electorate there, and he is telling folks in the suburbs to go down there and watch these places. a lot of people called for voter suppression and intimidation at the polls. and they're nervous about that. you hear a lot of different secretaries of state in these states, democrats and republicans coming forward in charge of the elections and standing up and saying there is no reason to believe the elections will be rigged, that voter fraud is taking place. ohio republicans called this statement irresponsible. there was a similar response from the secretary of state in
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colorado, so when he isedelinge is unprecedented, but very important to people who remain this politics that americans don't give up on the idea that our elections are free and fair. >> eli, thank you for joining us. i'm going to bring in now david from, a senior writer. david, i know you're not voting for donald trump, but what do you make of this idea that he is going out and saying that the election is going to be rigged, essentially, if i don't win. what sort of foundation is he laying for november 10th? >> he is laying an ego salve. rigging means voter fraud. trump is down by 15 points in illinois, down by seven points in pennsylvania. so again, what would be the
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point of cheating in philadelphia. ohio is a closer case. there are not a lot of cities in colorado, so that would be an unpromising place to do it. if we're to believe kellyanne conway, what trump is saying there is a lot of coverage of allegations of sexual abuse. well, was the election rigged against democrats in 1996 -- or 1992 for that matter when the gennifer flowers case came out. and bill clinton coped with that and managed to win may. and george bush didn't do all that well. >> how do they continue with the nominees, also having a double standard for women who come out against him and bringing accusers in bill clinton's past to a debate with hillary clinton. how does the party reconcile this if he does not win or even
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he does win? >> i think we need to put this discussion on hold for three weeks. most republicans are braced the race will not go well this time out. and probably shouldn't do well. but there are indications that republicans will do well down ballot. partly because the republicans will wisely conscious their vote and make sure there is a check with a strong republican senate and strong republican house. if that happens, that better case scenario happening then i think we can have a pretty intelligent discussion from republicans about what did we learn from trump with experience? i think there are things we need to learn from donald trump, that we need to maintain a harder position on immigration. but if it's a down-ballot disaster then i think it won't be a polite conversation. >> >> away about people coming
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out not strongly against paul ryan, who is refusing to even talk about him even though he is the republican nominee. can he come out against him or is this a situation where he has no other choice? >> paul ryan, like reince priebus, is just the guy who got his neck tie caught in the fan. i don't know what he can do. whatever he does, the thing is going to rip his head off. he wants to keep republican hopes up and not to protect republicans in the house he has an obligation to those people. at the same time he has stayed tepid to this person he obviously has no regard for, and who violates every understanding paul ryan had with him. one of the tragic things is paul ryan keeps trying to make a deal with this character, and the character keeps reneging him. the remark was, trying to get donald trump to behave, would be like trying to get charles
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manson to shape up. >> as there is a push for traditionally red states, they're dispatching michelle obama to arizona. but should they be worried about the wikileaks revelations hurting her chances? i'll have more next. plus, the latest on what is being called a decisive moment in the fight against isis. kurdish and iraqi forces have launched a major offensiveo retake the country's largest city. coming up, we'll go to iraq where the battle is intense. ta i had trouble getting there on time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. for pain relief that can last into the morning. ♪ look up at a new day... hey guys! now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
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welcome back, the clinton campaign receiving a constant drip of distraction from the website wikileaks, and e-mails are posted on line nearly every day. some 12,000 have reported 50,000 e-mails have been released so far. while the clinton campaign continues not to weigh on it, we have every e-mail on line. it is giving ammunition to many detractors. alex, what are the headlines so far? >> well, to me, it depends on how you feel about hillary clinton. well there is something in here for everyone, if you are bernie sanders fan, there is a friendly relationship with the goldman sachs ceo. if you're a clinton supporter you can find examples of her being thoughtful and smart and all the things you like about her in private, just as much as
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she is in public. and that doesn't mean there is nothing to learn here. they're not going to be studying these e-mails for years to come, we haven't had any type of major revelation i think yet that could really change minds in what is a very polarizing event. there is a distraction, any time the word e-mail and clinton is in the news, is a pat day. they're working to get hillary clinton elected every day. those people whose e-mails are in here, just imagine if your e-mail was leaked, all the things you said about your colleague, social security number, all of that was in here. that is a huge distraction that is causing tension potentially between people and not what you want to deal with 21 days before the election. >> certainly not, thank you for joining us. now, let's bring in jeff weaver, bernie sanders's former campaign manager. thank you for joining us.
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>> my pleasure. >> i want to talk to you about notes from the transcript, from the talks. you guys wanted to hear this and wanted her to release it during the campaign and the primaries. was this what you expected to find? >> sure, i think the e-mails speak for themselves, this was the kind of information we were looking for in the process. >> do you think it is revealing? >> well, it's in line with what we thought would be in there obviously. but you know, the caucus and primaries are over now, and now we're in a situation whether hillary clinton or donald trump is going to be resident. hillary clinton is far and away better than donald trump. >> let's look at the e-mails and transcripts. >> well, i think what stood out is how easily they had had access to them. we wanted them, they wouldn't produce them, or might produce
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them under certain circumstances. but the ease with which they had access to them revealed they did in fact have them all along. >> bernie sanders is going to campaign in arizona, why suddenly is arizona in play for hillary clinton? what makes that state so demographically appealing for her at the moment? >> well, trump is in freefall, his numbers are going down, every day there is a new revelation hurting his campaign even more. states like utah, essentially tied, arizona, essentially tied. you see a movement in a lot of traditionally red states and i think it's very smart for clinton to go and capture those states if they can. one thing they need to do is focus on the hillary clinton positive. there is a tremendous amount of positive that can be said by hillary clinton about her policy proposals going forward, including the education plan, higher education plan that she developed for senator sanders,
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the health care plan she helped to develop with senator sanders. she needs to spend more time talking about the very, very positive elements of her proposal. >> and there is a trustworthy problem, people don't think she is the same person in public as she is in private. certainly something the trump campaign is trying to hammer home. bernie sanders conveyed something like that in the primaries. is he going out and doing enough to help her in that regard? and could he do more in your opinion? >> i think the problem is, trump is the same in private as he is on the road. bernie sanders is going from coast to coast, state to state campaigning for hillary clinton and campaigning for senate candidates and house candidates. down ballot candidates at the state level. as well as a number of ballot issues across the country. bernie sanders has been on the road with an incredibly busy schedule as he always does when he goes on the road. sort of dawn to dusk and well
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into the evening. so he is out there fighting for her, and she has a lot of other high profile surrogates as well, the vice president, the president and first lady and others. >> jeff weaver, former bernie sanders campaign manager. >> happy to be here. and paul ryan is all but ignoring trump's visit. up next, how trump's latest attacks against paul ryan are putting the speaker in a tough spot with congressional candidates. plus? >> if you believe these accusations are part of a conspiracy to rig the election. only donald trump could have sex scandals, zero experience, and still say if i lose it's rigged. >> saturday night live having fun with the accusations of rigged elections. but after months of being spoofed by the show, trump is
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adding saturday night live to the list of enemies hy ies he b are conspireing against him. he quoted, watch saturday night live's hits on me, time to retire the unfunny show. alex baldwin, talking about rigging election. remember, trump was on saturday night live less than a year ago. stay with us. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and mast treatment. side effects may include diarrhea,
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in a series of tweet, trump calling gop leaders naive. before the debate, trump held a rally with wisconsin this evening. the state depend denying allegations by campaign that there is a quid pro quo to protect hillary clinton. the agency has discussed a
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proposal to change the classification level of an hall & oat-- an e-mail in that server. the fbi rejected that request. and authorities say a bottle with flammable liquid was thrown through the gop headquarters early on sunday. nobody was injured. democrats condemned the attack. the pentagon says that iraqi and kurdish forces are ahead of schedule to liberate the city of mosul, we'll have a live report in just minutes. a florida man who fired at george zimmerman's vehicle during a road rage incident, will spend years in prison. he was convicted of other charges, george zimmerman was acquitted of murder in the 2012
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shooting of an unarmed black teenager. trayvon martin. and a record high for the fifth year in a row. the government says that the scores are in the national range. back to politics, a few short months ago donald trump endorsed house speaker paul ryan for his primary battle. but as trump travels to battle turf this evening, he is once again at war with the congress. trump attacking paul ryan in multiple tweets over the weekend. one read, paul ryan, a man who doesn't know how to win, including a failed run four years ago must start to focus on the budget, military, vets. ryan setting trump off saying he would divert his attention to down-ballot races in the closing weeks of the election. the republican candidates are
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being called all across the country for their support of truchl trump. and it's often the first question at the debates in the faceoff for the wisconsin senate. >> starting with senator johnson do you stand 100% behind your party's nominee, 100%, yes or no, and why? >> certainly supporting somebody who is going to change washington, that is what i want to do. i support the agreements, but i've not been shy about disagreeing with our candidate, our nominee. so i'm not going to defend the indefensible. >> and a treat for me, msnbc's kelly o'donnell joining us. >> we have an e-mail relationship, we rarely get to see each other. >> in wisconsin tonight, could they find gold. what about the other tight races across the country? >> wisconsin is a worry spot for republicans, and one of the places where democrats think
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they can pick up a seat. it's critical because of all the turbulence of this cycle, russ feingold had been a senator before. if johnson has anything going for him it is the strong organization that governor scott walker as for the republicans in the state and reince priebus. that is also one of the races people of watching because it's kind of the epicenter of the rnc, reince priebus and scott walker, looking broadly there are five states republicans are concerned about. pennsylvania, indiana, north carolina, new hampshire and they have had. and what they hope to find is some cover there. nevada is a state they want to pick up. democrats will hd that. that is the harry reid seat, he is not running for re-election. and north carolina should be
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easy territory for them. and richard byrd, the chairman of the intelligence committee, running against deborah ross, it is a race that worries republicans because they just don't feel there is the fire needed there. and it's all the other circumstances, all of the trump effect. when you talk to democrats they see that as a potential place for them as well as indiana. >> how do senators that are running to keep their seat thread the needle here? you have people like kelly ayotte, new hampshire, who clearly doesn't agree with almost everything that donald trump says yet she finds herself in a position of not wanting to alienate voters who went for him in the primary. >> and one study shows that voters will see either choice, embracing trump or running away from him as being a political move. they may penalize the senator either way. not an easy circumstance. at the same time, there are
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republican operatives i talk to who say the fallout, the allegations against trump while that has hit his numbers hard, kind of free-falling, less though for their candidate. they believe that is a talking especially for incumbents, already having a relationship with the voters in their state. is it hard? absolutely, is it an opportunity for democrats? without a doubt. but this will be close, there are a few states that are a toss-up. we just don't know who will win. >> one of the things that makes it difficult is so many seats are dominant for their party. so the number of available swing districts relatively small to pull off a swing of 30 seats. very tough. but not unheard of. expectation and the opportunity for democrats. >> so much at stake with the gop in november, right? 22 days to go. kelly, thank you for joining us. good to see you in the flesh.
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donald trump, kelly, you didn't know this, called himself the hem hemingway of twitter, propping up friendly polls. right now most polls are not so friendly for trump. he has 12.5 million. hillary clinton just under 10 million. donald trump is a prolific tweeter, he does it at 3:30 a.m., some of the thousands of messages he tweeted are harmless, others not so much. a donald trump tweet can be quite an experience, this is a treat for me. jacob, hi. >> reporter: hi, katy. >> what is donald trump tweeting? >> reporter: that is what i wanted to know, and you probably more than anybody in the universe probably read donald trump's tweets.
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there is data that they sent me, he retweeted 2500 times during the campaign. >> reporter: i found someone retweeted by donald trump in las vegas, so this is you, right? >> my choice is doing well, hash tag trump -- >> this was me. >> nicholas rockford is a french-american supporter, who was a bernie sanders supporter when he sent his tweet a year ago. and then what happened? >> i put my phone on the sofa, a minute later, it was donald trump, my reaction was a reaction of being very surprised that someone was running for the president of the united states, not only has time to read my tweet, but also to re-tweet it. >> trump deleted his tweet after
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it seemed offensive to the ohio voters he was courting. a year later, another tweet caught his eye. >> i'm in nevada, where on september, 9th, steven tweeted, i can see @ tony schwartz, the guy who was the ghost writer of the deal is very unstable, might leave for canada soon, too. and tagged @ real, donald trump. steven is a home health care nurse and frequently tweets from mcdonald's near his home office. what was that like? >> it is interesting you have hundreds of notificaons. >> do you think that is a good thing from the guy would wants to be president? do you think it is a good thing? >> i think it is great. he is the voice of us, he wants to do right by us. why not tweet the little guy like me? >> katy, i would bet a nickel
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that you have been retweeted by donald trump. but for those folks, such as the guy at mcdonald's this las vegas, a retweet from donald trump is with as big as it gets. >> you owe me a nickel, he never tweeted me. he tweeted at me, but never tweeted me. i am going to venture to say tweeting at me is basically i guess trashing some of in reporting is a little bit different than retweeting. but i love that package, i love you went there and found them. nice work. >> reporter: thanks, katy, a lot of times it is to trash someone, even if it is in someone else's voice. >> jacob, thank you so much. up next, we'll change the topic, live to iraq, where the major offensive against isis is intensifying. they are ready to take the second largest city, could this be the beginning of the end for
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we are confident, however, that the iraqis have the capability to get this job done and we stand ready to support them along with the rest of the coalition. it's in our interest that they succeed and we'll do what we can to help them. >> the u.s. says the iraqi and kurdish forces are making progress as they look to drive isis from the city of mosul. the u.s. and the offensive is backing them with airstrikes. if it is successful it would be a huge blow to isis. matt, u.s. officials say the offensive is ahead of schedule. are you hearing the same thing on the ground? >> reporter: -- and we lost
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right now, a major offensive in the fight against isis. iraqi and kurdish forces preparing to strike mosul, the city that isis has been holding since 2014. matt, u.s. officials say the
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offensive is ahead of schedule. are you hearing the same thing on the ground? >> reporter: thank you, katy, yeah, we're hearing similar noises. but i have to say that iraqi officials are ssanguine even in the worst of times. this is a strategic battle. the prime minister of iraq announced it this morning, wearing a military uniform. this is all about demonstrates that iraq can stay unified in the face of one enemy, that the nation that is so hard to govern because of the ethnic and religious groups, when it comes to fighting for mosul, this is the super bowl. >> we'll turn to cal perry, you sent a ton of time in iraq during the first invasion. where are we right now? and just break down where the forces are coming from and how
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they expect to be able to take this city. >> reporter: here is where we are right now, the lighter shaded areas are controlled by isis, the darker areas in red are controlled by the coalition. matt is here, in urbil, where are people coming from? you will have everybody base right here, the air base where richard engel is. the iraqis will come up from the south, making their way there now. you have the kurdish fighting force, nearly 10,000 of them coming down from the south. you heard matt bradley there, keep in mind, this is a sunni e city, it's been a problem. american advisers to the east, canadians to the west. this is basically a supply route that isis uses all the way from raqqah into mosul, the trick will be to cut it right here. >> does this mean that isis is
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done for? and who takes over afterwards, if so? >> definitely not done, the problem will be the city itself. you have 700,000 civilians living here in the city itself. it's going to be a humanitarian nightmare. they can't fit their armored vehicles. it's just not wide enough. we have to clear it street by street. we already heard that isis is laying land mines, trying to menace the civilian population. we heard them drop leaflets, asking them to stay in the area because it's quite likely they won't, because they don't know where to go. >> the civilians in mosul initially welcomed isis. why the change of heart now, and how is there an expectation that it's going to be different if the shiite militia comes in, and the iraqi forces come in and saying we're in charge now. it's a sunni city.
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>> that is the fear for people living inside mosul. and again you have the shiite militia joining the iraqi army coming up from the south. there are all of these rules of engagement. specifically, only the iraqi army is going to enter the city of mosul. the kurdish forces will not go farther south, the -- it's a big-time political problem. >> it's a million people in the city, if they go, where do they go? >> there are humanitarian centers set up in the northern part of the city. let's look at irbil, where matt bradley was -- sort of right here, around irbil, there are all of these humanitarian centers. but here is the problem, if you're sunni, you don't want to go to kurdistan, you're more likely to head to the south. this is why the iraqi army wants
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to keep everybody in place. but again, a million and a half people could be on the move this month. and this is an operation that could take until christmas. >> cal perry, thank you for joining us. and coming up, could donald trump actually be eyeing his own tv network? a new report suggests that there is an idea his son is exploring. we'll discuss it with one of the authors on that story next. [ "on the road again," by willie nelson ] ♪ on the road again
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adviser, jared kushner, has approached about the television network after the election for november. the co-author of the piece is now with me. matthew, were these talks informal? will they happen? >> i think it's very informal, i'm not sure. i think a trump tv network will happen at some point. i don't think he is the guy to do it, but there was definitely an approach. >> what does it mean for the trump campaign? if jared kushner is going around and saying, what about a tv connection? are they saying they won't win the election. >> i think it's an assumption, it's hard to win the election, they have seen the enormous crowds, there are millions of people who will vote for donald trump in november. after november, where are those
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people going to go? they're all there and need to be fed with more trump rhetoric, more trump opinions, and a tv network with some description would be the right way to do it. >> steve bannon on trump's campaign is the former ceo of breitbart, now taking a leave of absence, there is a team in place that could certainly help him with a tv network. can ailes help him launch it? >> he signed a non-compete agreement with fox news when he was ousted there in the summer after sexual harassment allegations. it's unclear if he will dive into a new gig. i'm sure he is in the background, and could find a way. i think steve bannon is the more interesting name because he is bringing a global network.
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they're aligning themselves in terms of populous movements in the united kingdom, in the defense party. there is -- this is a global thing. if you plug in the trump effect, and you have a pretty compelling business proposition. >> interestingly, people -- and i'm not saying they're doing this. people like greta van susteren who left fox, as well as bill o'reilly and sean hannity have that clause as well. in theory they could go work for a trump tv network if this were to happen. >> the clause that sean has, will probably expire by the time trump sets up a network if he does, which we think he will. sean hannity has been by far the biggest cheerleader for trump on
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fox news. you kind of expect him to end up there at some point. >> interesting, we'll find out if that happens. matthew, thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. nice to hear the accent, it makes me feel le i'm back this london. that does i for this hour. i'm katy tur in for steve kornacki. and i'll be back where i belong, colorado springs and grand junction. tune into msnbc for all day coverage live from the university of nevada live in las vegas beginning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. and of course, the debate starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern, you can catch it right here on msnbc. "meet the press" daily with kristen welker, her special guest is kellyanne conway. that is next. it is monday, the race for the white house has reached a boiling point.
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>> tonight, donald trump adding more fuel to his fiery and unproven claims that the election is rigged. >> it's one big ugly lie. it's one big fix. >> trump's campaign manager, kel kellyanne conway, joining us live. plus, hillary clinton's challenge as her e-mails are pushed back into the headlines. and the great divide and travel in two place s to tell te story of hillary clinton's america versus trump's america. >> i think you would have to have your head checked if you're going to vote for him. >> this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. and good evening, i'm kristen welker in washington, in for chuck todd. welcome to "mtp

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