34% rather have a giant meteor destroy the earth than have hillary clinton as pred. 23% choose the media over either of them for the white house. think about that. i am steve kornacki. mtp daily with chuck todd starts now. flz. if it is tuesday, it is donald trump against just about everyone. tonight donald trump gears up for fight night in vegas. >> we've only just begun to fight, believe me, we have three weeks. >> president obama takes on all of the rhetoric. >> i would advise mr. trump to stop whining and try to win votes. >> the way some candidates are trying to distance from the top of the ticket. this is mtp daily and it starts right now.

i am peter alexander in washington. chuck todd has this evening off. welcome to mtp daily. on the eve of the presidential debate, donald trump versus president obama. and trump versus new evidence from accusers. he is facing intense criticism from critics and opponents after tripling down unproven claims wide scale voter fraud is rigging the election against him. a message that has some of his supporters say they're ready for protests and civil unrest if he loses. "people" magazine has published a story revealing six people they say can corroborate natasha stoynoff's claims of being attacked in 2005. nbc news hasn't confirmed the allegation. trump denies it happened, melania trump disputes that as well. with all of that swirling the trump campaign, we're keeping an eye on the scene in grand

junction, colorado where trump will be speaking to supporters, his second of two stops in that state, should happen any time now. this afternoon, president obama criticizing trump's attempt to discredit the democratic election. here's what president obama said this afternoon at a joint press conference. >> when you lose, you start blaming somebody else. then you don't have what it takes to be in this job. i advise mr. trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. one way of weakening america, making it less great is if you start the basic american traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries.

>> a few hours later, trump continued his rigged election talk at a rally in colorado springs that wrapped up a short time ago. >> we won't let them stop maybe the greatest movement in the history of our country. if they even want to try to rig the election at the polling booths where so many cities are corrupt, you see that, and voter fraud is all too common. then they criticize us for saying that. >> trump's claims of large scale vote rigging have been widely panned even by fellow republicans. we heard from trump's top adviser, governor chris christie, and two republican senators facing re-election, marco rubio and pat toomey. >> i'm convinced that the election will be a fair one and that the process will be one that will be accepted by the american people. >> this election is not being rigged. i hope he stops saying that. we have 67 counties in the state, each of which conduct their own elections. i promise you, there's not a 67 county conspiracy to rig this election. >> our elections may not always

be completely perfect but they are legitimate. they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome. >> just a quick fact check. numerous experts and academics from both sides of the aisle call the claims unfounded. one study found you're more likely struck by lightning than someone imperson ateates another at the poll. al car dean as, chair of florida gop during the 2000 recount, is not supporting trump or clinton in this race. gentlemen, nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> happy time. glad to have a moment of republican unity as it were. >> it is nice. >> the party could use moments like this. bob, if i can start with you quickly, right now donald trump against the world in effect. >> just the way he wants it. did you notice his terminology, not party, not campaign,

movement. >> is that strong enough to be a winning movement? >> find out in three weeks. >> he is trailing nationally by double digits according to most polls, five or six in the generous polls. is the movement satisfactory for the republican party that believes there's a lot at stake here? >> he has to do two things to win on election day. has to have a three or four turn out advantage. see if his people are -- number two, narrow the gap if you look at the clear politics average by two or three points. he has three weeks to do it. >> we agree he has a long way to go in a race static for where the ratings were for these guys back in january. >> actually i would disagree with that. he was closing pretty well until the tape. until the video. >> in january, 51, 41 race. that's what it is in the newest poll. for everything we witnessed, we are back where we started, acknowledging the tape had

impact in recent days. this idea of large scale vote rigging, do you condone that given that so many people and polls suggest it doesn't exist. >> you say that, i have been through 1994 maryland, we had serious allegations and still lot of people believe that election didn't turn out -- >> multiple independents say 30 incidents out of a billion. we agree to that? >> i agree. i interpreted rigging to be the press and establishment, everybody that he is running against. >> he tweeted again, says it is happening polling places, large scale voter fraud. >> here's the deal, you say that, better be able to prove it. if you can't prove it, you're going to look bad. >> the president agrees on that topic. here is what he said today. take a listen. >> we recognize that there's something more important than any individual campaign and that is making sure that the integrity and trust in our

institutions sustains itself because democracy by definition works by consent not by force. >> this from a guy wanted photo id at the polls. >> this is donald trump, he is tweeting. has donald trump crossed a line on this issue? even john houston, secretary of state, republican in ohio says it is irresponsible because the facts don't back it up. >> i agree. listen, he had a winning issue, campaign shenanigans in the democratic primary, talk about media bias but he crossed the line. 30 republican governors will tell you that they're going to run on election day. democrats say the same. >> should be talking about immunity deals for hillary staff. >> here's my concern. number one, president obama shouldn't have talked in a press conference with prime minister of italy about election fraud. >> he was asked about it. >> i know it, but he should have

punted. and he has a right to talk about it, just not at that instance. >> the italian prime minister also had criticism of donald trump. >> i know, i know, but my point is look, one thing to make us prouder than anything else is the fact that we have peer democracy, peaceful transfer of power on election day. we have an election that the whole world thinks is transparent, fair, honest. we don't want to tarnish that. >> are you satisfied from what we heard and not heard from reince priebus and paul ryan of the world, paul ryan put out a statement through his press office, hasn't said a thing about this. >> listen, all i got to tell you is first thing comes to my mind is my country. i want my country to have a reputation around the world -- >> is this good for the country? >> this is not good for the country. >> makes us exceptional. >> speaking of that exceptionalism, a lot take exception to the way they think the election is going.

listen to what some cold jacob rascon in colorado springs in case donald trump loses in three weeks. >> on november 8th, what if he loses. >> america is not going to sit do down. >> i believe there will be unrest and should be. i don't think hillary will win fair and square if they say she wins. >> exactly. >> i'm going to question it. i'm going to think there's something weird going on, yeah. >> i will guarantee you that there will probably be a hell of a lot of protest. >> if hillary clinton wins, will you accept the outcome? >> hell no. >> uh-uh. i will never qualify her as my president. >> what did you tell supporters, should they protest the result if we continue on the path that the polls show? >> two things, no. but what you see is function of wikileaks and quid pro quo and hillary's history here. >> which dictates what decision is made at the polling place. >> lends itself to paranoia.

>> when it is done, if donald trump does lose as polls presently say, colorado latest poll from quinnipiac has him down eight points where those voters are now, do you say they should go out and protest? should there be civil unrest? what should the message be to those individuals? >> it is a peaceful transfer of power. it is what makes us unique and exceptional. >> i think, governor, others who are supporting donald trump will agree on election night to say the right thing and that is, you know, whoever wins won. and that's what americans should always accept. >> i was asking about paul ryan a second ago. here is what donald trump, i was in green bay, wisconsin yesterday. before trump walked out, the crowd was chanting paul ryan sucks, i think we can say that, hopefully kids aren't watching now. here is what donald trump said about paul ryan. take a listen. >> do you think he wants you to win? >> maybe not, maybe he wants to run in four years, maybe he

doesn't know how to win, maybe he just doesn't know how to win. >> is that a winning strategy? >> we're going to find out in three weeks. nobody should be surprised. >> if you're advising, you're a supporter, advising in effect. >> i have been wrong every step, i have been wrong everything i said last six months as many members of washington establishment, this is outside the play book, outside the rule book kind of campaign. >> do you think the polls are wrong? >> i think generally, clearly the video hurt. clearly he was closing and tied in many polls prior to the video. that has clearly been a clear line in this election. but again what you see there is the anti-establishment trump. >> he is playing one card and that card is a populous movement that's going to passionately show up and populous need to be against everything, need to be against washington and -- >> and he is. >> and he is personifying it. to me, that's a shrinking base and no win strategy, but he believes that's a winning card.

>> his response would be, well, it won the primary. you have different strategy with regard to general and primary. >> the things to take on in the debate. >> issues, charter schools, $20 trillion in debt. jobs. what has given angst to people. >> pleasure to see you. >> good to be with you. >> gop unity. keep it here for more msnbc, full coverage of the third and final presidential debate. tonight we have some of it, special editions of "hardball" and "all in" from las vegas. tomorrow, the day of the debate, all day coverage from unlv, debate at 9:00 p.m. eastern. supporters in grand junction, colorado are waiting for trump

to land his plane and take the stage. does trump have opportunity to move the needle, three weeks to go. we have numbers to help answer that question. you're watching mtp daily. hem on a rack. but the specialists at ford like to show off their strengths: 13 name brands. all backed by our low price tire guarantee. yeah, we're strong when it comes to tires. right now during the big tire event, get a $140 rebate by mail on four select tires. ♪ and so when i saw that, that was completely disqualifying. i'm a republican, but this election is so much bigger than party. my son max can't live in trump world. so i'm crossing party lines and voting for hillary. i don't always agree with her, but she's reasonable. and she's smart. she can work with people to solve problems.

i want to be able to tell my kids that i did the right thing when it really mattered. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message.

i stand by everything i ever said in the republican primary and i would admit right off the bat, this is not the most inspirational choice you've had in american history in terms of these two candidates. there's no doubt there's a lot of things i disagree with and the nominee of the party. and i have taken him on on policy and condemned him when he said things that are outrageous, vulgar and inappropriate. the problem is the other candidate has repeatedly violated federal law. >> few days ago introduced you to the condemn dorse. that was on full display yesterday.

several senate debates where the presidential nominee was front and center, you heard marco rubio. in ohio, ted strickland, democrat, hit rob portman for past trump support. portman argued strickland hasn't stood up to clinton and broke with trump and many republicans by endorsing a path to citizenship for undocumented immigration. finally, more condemned dorisments. >> there's a suggestion that donald trump has been making. people want their voices heard, will show up respectfully for the process. i think this is another one of the reasons why it is important for senator toomey to say donald trump is unfit to be president of the united states. >> the fact is our options are a fundamental aspect of our democratic process. one of the most important defining features. and they work. they have worked for a very long time and we all need to respect the outcomes.

>> that was senator toomey. he hasn't said if you will vote for trump, says he will probably announce who he will before election day. coming up, whether it is a stable election. that's next.

so if you spent the last ten months on, say, bars, believe it or not, you probably didn't miss much. despite the roller coaster we've all been on since january this year, the race between hillary clinton and donald trump is at the exact same spot. kind of stunning. in a head to head matchup today, the nbc news, "the wall street journal" journal shows clinton up ten points 51% to trump 41%. check where we were in january. the poll then had them at the exact same numbers. 51, 41. might have to do with the fact both candidates have been household names for decades. that is reflected in favor

ability ratings. only 29% have a positive view of donald trump, january this year, the same amount. the only number that moved is his negative rating. it is well, down or up by four. same is the case for hillary clinton. positive rating 40%, january her negative rating has gone up slightly, too, up one point in ten months. bottom line. is this crazy as it seems. the cake has been baked since january. let's get to chris cillizza, former of the fix blog and contributor ruth marcus, columnist, deputy editorial editor for "the washington post." heavy "the washington post" contingent. robert traitum. and chris, this has to blow your mind for everything everybody paid attention to. >> you can say, everything i

have written. i keep telling myself, you were showing the numbers, i read it in first read, i thought it is not the destination, it is the journey. that's what i'm focused on. but yeah. what you outline is the right conclusion which is these are two people among the most recognizable people certainly in the country now and in the world. these are people about whom opinions have been set for quite some time. we are more likely to think of that with hillary clinton, but truth of the matter, donald trump has been famous a long time. most people have some opinion about him. so in some ways it is not surprising that the numbers haven't moved because neither of them have fundamentally altered who they are for all of the talk. i sat in this chair, talked about the pivot any number of times. >> so is this thing baked? is this locked into place now? can anything change given what we witnessed the last three

weeks? >> i think going forward, spent a lot of time baking cakes, could have stayed home and done it today, that it is pretty much ready to come out of the oven. i think one of the things that's remarkable and may explain the numbers is how much has happened in that interim period. all of the outrageous and for anybody else catastrophic things that donald trump has said since january, all of the information that's come out about hillary clinton, extremely careless, even though not being prosecuted with the e-mails. i think that locks everybody in place. there's been so much problematic stuff about each of them. >> let me ask about that. new reporting from "the washington post" in the last hour or so about details behind the scenes, this conversation between an fbi official and state department official basically as it is alleged was quid pro quo. both agencies we should say say that's not the case. obviously there was some business people think was funny business going on behind the scenes, trying to clean up

classified details. this seems like it gets to the heart of her biggest weakness, wikileaks has been detailing a lot of these elements. >> and biggest week for the trustworthy issue. what's fascinating to me, all of the tens of millions that donald trump and hillary clinton have spent trying to change their image, all the positive ads, the cake stays the same. everyone knows how the cake tastes, no one is buying the positive ads. to your question, most know that hillary clinton probably has some variation of the truth. most know that. in addition to that, most people also saying she's much more qualified to be president. there's a lot of scars there, but we realize she's much more qualified than donald trump. that trumps everything else. >> robert was saying none of the positive ads had impact, i'm not convinced. there's not an ad i can point to, oh, that negative ad had a

lot of influence. >> against hillary clinton? >> against either. it feels like normally as you point out, peter, not an insignificant issue, but i have no faith there's anything that will come out that moves the number in any meaningful way. to ruth's point, look at what we've seen. it is like a novel. >> i have to fire up my people and believe the movement can overwhelm, like a brexit vote. brexit was even going into the polls, we are at a ten point gap, so there are differences, but finish that thought. >> the difference with brexit, significant people were going to the polls and say yes, let's exit brexit. donald trump's numbers, the math doesn't add up. back to your point, chris, it is interesting. didn't you think that 3:00 a.m. ad hillary clinton put out that our children are watching with respect to kids watching. >> i thought the ad, i am interested in ruth's point of view. i thought the ad with women reading the things, that's the

one stands out most. >> the kids ad and young women reading things he said, but i'm not sure that that reinforced views, not sure it moved numbers. >> motivate the democratic base saying all the reason to get out. >> i think the motivation for the democratic base and i think unhappiness with some of the republican voters and even republican office holders has all come out of trump's own mouth and has been amplified not in paid media but in trump's earned media. >> desiring change. there's a lot of people say to change this thing, this messenger is so flawed. >> we want change but also want change within a job we know is one of the most important in the world. i feel like do you remember when denny green, minnesota vikings coach came out and said they are who you thought they are. >> feel like we're talking about

cakes. >> that's this election. >> is the cake baked? what do you do for toomeys and rubios? >> down ballot should be worried what's going on in the oven. those guys as you said before the break are in this to absolutely excruciating situation, not going with the cake thing, leave that. i have been given a hard time in the makeup room about cake. but they're going to alienate people if they say one thing, alienate another, you can be sad what trump is saying about the rigged election is dangerous. >> pat toomey has run. i don't think he ran a good campaign. i don't think roy blunt ran a particularly good campaign. >> rob portman. >> in pennsylvania, pat toomey did a good job, could lose for

what ruth is talking about. watch republican turnout drop. donald trump loses 54, 44 in pennsylvania, pat toomey, you can't overperform that. >> he could run the most perfect race and still lose. kelly ayotte, she's run ago good ground game, reality she could lose. >> name recognition. >> really in a close race, can kill you. >> still to come, democrats feel good about the election and hopeful to take the senate. what about the house? i talk to the man whose job it is to win the house for team blue as soon as we come back. something new has arrived. uniquely designed for the driven.

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back live on mtp daily. with clinton's team more confident about the white house, she's turning to down ballot races. the nbc news, "the wall street journal" poll, 46% of registered voters want democrats controlling congress, two points more than prefer republican control. 53% of registered voters are likely to vote a congress to check clinton. to combat that ticket splitting, alex seitz wald says clinton will be doing what many have been doing months, getting republicans attached to donald trump. the democratic congressional

campaign committee chairman, nice to see you. thanks for being with us from vegas now. hillary clinton as we have been reporting spent time trying to woo diseffected republican voters to vote for her by saying donald trump doesn't represent their party. essentially encouraged what people call split ticket voting. there's concerted effort to tie donald trump to republicans down ballot. is the shift too late the difference for down ballot democrats? >> peter, great to be with you as well. quite honestly, it is too little too late for the republicans trying to walk away from donald trump, especially after the revelation of the hollywood or access hollywood videos. seeing more and more republicans trying to walk away. as we asked voters across the country what their thoughts are, voters tell us the democratic campaign committee, see republicans trying to walk away

from donald ump as a political calculation and it is not working. >> the republicans have the largest majority in the house in nearly nine decades. would this effort by democrats to retake the house exist without donald trump at the top of ticket? were they adequately prepared for the competitive races? >> as you remember from the very beginning, the democratic congressional campaign committee was working to make sure the american people were aware of the vitriol, bigotry, race. we received from donald trump, reminding them much of the birther conspiracies and other hateful statements -- >> without donald trump would the message resonate? >> peter, that's what i'm saying, much of the birther conspiracy and all of the ugly statements donald trump was saying actually were being said by house republicans in the last six years, so we remind people where the house republicans have

been. we knew as democrats we were going to pick up seats this cycle. with donald trump, we're more optimistic, especially with the access hollywood tapes that we as democrats pick up more seats than originally anticipated. >> president obama and eric holder will work together on redistricting reform group, not going to be active until at least the 2018 mid terms when voter turnout is lower and republicans typically have the edge. how are you fighting hurdles of gerrymandering in this race? >> from the very beginning we knew we had to have a new battlefield that was out there, so we continued to understand negative impacts of donald trump across the map, where we could go after districts, namely suburban areas and districts where we saw getting more democrat over time, emerging districts when it came to communities of color, women and millennials. that's why there's ten new seats on the map this year that we as

democrats go after, compared to districts in the past or battle grounds in the past. that's leading to optimistic view and sentiment that i have, especially picking up seats this cycle. >> let me pull up this flyer. huffington post from congressman darrell issa of southern california. on it he writes i'm very pleased president obama has signed into law the survivors bill of rights legislation, i co-sponsored to protect victims of sexual assault. issa is aligning with the president and sexual assault survivors, considering the allegations trump is facing, couldn't be a bigger departure for the nominee. i want your reaction to that. >> darrell issa still supporting donald trump and voting donald trump, and that's why people in the 49th congressional district of california are so concerned with where darrell issa is and not pushing back on donald trump and that's why colonel doug applegate will be elected to

house of representatives. they show him ahead of darrell issa in california. >> congressman, appreciate your time. to the audience watching now, this is live pictures, donald trump has landed in grand junction, colorado. it is his second stop of the day in the state. he's expected to take the stage there shortly. also this hour bernie sanders is in flagstaff, arizona, rallying clinton supporters, trying to widen the map to places like arizona. we're going to monitor both events, bring you any news from there. ahead, placing bets for tomorrow's vegas debate. we roll the dice next. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of at&t, and security that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever.

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you can see donald trump greeting supporters in grand junction, colorado, his second of two stops in colorado. a state where the latest polls show him trailing hillary clinton by eight points. his last stop before he heads west to vegas, the strip, fight night tomorrow evening. we, of course, will be there. just over 24 hours from now until the two face off on the debate stage in nevada. the silver state is not just the battleground for the final debate but also battleground for the white house. check out this monmouth poll released this afternoon. clinton up seven points on trump. on the right, she was down two points taken a month ago, before the hot mike moment from access hollywood and other moments with the pace of the campaign. the panel is back. if i can, robert, that number in nevada now, had to be some states donald trump was going to flip. for awhile looked like nevada may be one, new hampshire,

something like this. nevada is getting further and further away from him not to mention colorado. >> and arizona. arizona hasn't gone -- >> michelle obama is there. >> chelsea clinton there, i was talking to a friend, there's never been something like this. hillary clinton is maybe making news there. my understanding is secretary clinton may be there next week, michelle obama, chelsea clinton in arizona. that's unbelievable. >> think about this. three weeks from the election and it appears hillary clinton could sweep the map. georgia, arizona. >> 1996 the only time in my memory -- >> that was a three way race. the number was a little lower. you're talking about historic reorganization of a map that sort of obama sort of messed

with. arizona, utah, it is -- >> connections to a state he is campaigning a ton, the republican now independent. state like texas, do the democrats pour resources into texas? it is a state that's population is changing dramatically. recent polls show three points. >> democrats should pour resources in 2020 or 2024. little premature now. but the numbers in nevada really do matter and matter for the reason we talked about before. that's where i think the game is now. >> what are we not paying attention to. easy to say i will look at the numbers. this is cake, baking a cake with my daughters as well, i am a cake baker as well. >> for anybody out there thought you were being sexist in any way, i raised the question of

cake baking. on me. yeah. >> twitter is mostly a friendly place in the campaign season. what are we saying, millennials, do they show up in force? >> this is the most broad analysis i can think of, who turns out. the clinton campaign manager predicts larger turnout than 2012. what do those people look like. do i think there's some hidden probably the wrong word, people who are nervous saying they're for donald trump and will vote for him, yes. is he behind by too much in too many states for that to matter. also currently yes. that's the issue. i think he will overperform the polling we see a little bit but there's not seven points of hidden vote in florida or colorado or virginia. seven points in virginia wouldn't win it. >> you recognize you get

enamoured by national polls, places like texas closer than they used to be, makes that number wider. >> the thing i would add to that is the known, unknown, what else comes out in the wikileaks documents. either true or -- >> just ignore the other stuff, say go back to the fundamental issue about this woman. look at this e-mail and walk the voters through this tomorrow night. >> but he can't stop himself from counter punching. i couldn't stop myself interrupting you. i'm sorry. >> ruth is right. republican said something this morning, look, you want to know, e-mail, foundation, wikileaks. like this big block. the more the spotlight shines on her, less well she does. donald trump has proven to ruth's point, uniquely incapable of letting the spotlight off

him. >> the potential 50/50 setup, if that's the case, dems take control of the senate. vice president kaine would be a tie-breaker. >> tim kaine's successor in virginia would only be temporary until 2018. it would be an interesting dynamic. virginia with hillary clinton is different than donald trump -- >> either way, 2018 campaign, assume that the democrats have a reasonable shot at taking the senate, begins the day after the election. >> i think probably the influence of some behind the scenes, reince priebuses of the world. donald trump isn't going to virginia. he is going to close races. new hampshire, right, going to florida, going ohio where portman looks good. some play behind the scenes trying to protect that senate?

>> traditionally that's true, especially the last 21 days. most valuable asset is a candidate's time. i don't know if it is true. pic where he wants to go or -- >> but if i'm an incumbent senator -- that's right -- with the election stuff i'm not sure i want him by my side in pennsylvania or some other places. >> pat toomeydus not want donald trump anywhere near him. >> they are praying to god there will be a significant ticket splitting going on in the middle part of the state. pennsylvania has more democrats than republicans registered so it was already mathematically also impossible for toomey to win re-election but statewide republicans have done so in the past, rick santorum, you're going down the list. the question does he hold the middle part of the state in the tea area and whether or not philadelphia and pittsburgh votes for clinton but also

toomey. >> let's talk about tomorrow in veigh gas. tee up that, your idea what hillary clinton needs to do well. last time a more disengaged hillary clinton she wasn't going to confront donald trump on a lot of the attacks, the same way mike pence let things lie. hillary clinton let things lie. what could she do that either helps or protects herself. >> i think that worked well for her last time around. i think we'll see a more aggressive more in your face hillary clinton vis-a-vis donald trump tomorrow. i'm not sure she needs to do that. i think it's a little bit risky. >> she's bringing the mother of a benghazi victim tomorrow. >> he is, yes. >> excuse me, of course, he is. which is notable. the ben fwazghazi issues, this focuses on her one of the most memorable and damaging moments in her experience in the administration. >> if i was advising her i would

tell her to take very few risk. don't engage him hugely. think about it, if the election goes on its current course, barring a triple bank shot followed by another triple bank shot she will win, just based on the numbers. take no risk. it is all to his benefit once you get outside of the norms of what debates are to be expected. to her credit her best asset is a debater and she's rarely an a-plus, almost never a c-minus. >> the smartest thing by the commission of the presidential debates may have been to have this hosted by chris wallace at fox news because donald trump can't say no to a fox news debate. >> secretary clinton is a trained attorney and her closing argument i think tonight will pivot to russia and he's sensitive about this. i think she's going to ping him on his foreign policy experience or lack thereof. >> the wikileaks showed i wish we could have a better relationship with vladimir putin. >> naturally he'll get defensive

and on the defense throughout the 90 minutes. >> he's shown an incapacity to stay on message even when he has good messages. term limits, past versus future he struggles. >> he's got 90 minutes to try. last thought? >> he doesn't have two minutes of substance to add to an answer so that's why he gets all over the lot. >> nice to see you guys, thank you very much. out to las vegas, nbc's kasie hunt is already there laying the groundwork ahead of tomorrow night's debate. what are you hearing? you've been talking to folks on both sides. what are they telling you tonight? >> reporter: i was listening to the conversation you were just having with the panel and i think if you're the clinton campaign right now there's a couple calculations for some of this down ballot expansion you're seeing go beyond just oh we could add to our electoral college vote total in arizona. part of it is taking care of the party. the clintons have been known for looking out for other people

around them, that's how they have generated so much loyalty over the years, also you know, they're known for when you're not loyal back to them, making sure they don't forget about that. i think that's a big part of it. i think there's more pressure on them to talk about these down ballot races and i also think there's kind of a long term goal here. democrats are looking at georgia as a place that, yes, in 2020, yes in 2024 is going to look like north carolina, going to look like virginia. it's a state that is really on the future map for the democratic party and when you look, you're talking also about trump's travel. he's going to wisconsin, he's going to ohio. he's going to new hampshire. that is really, you know, wisconsin is the reach state on their map, right, if you're looking at trying to appeal particularly to white working class men. he needs to move wisconsin, he needs to move michigan. he needs to not waste his time in virginia. i think colorado is another interesting place he's been spending some time there, of course, and of course here in nevada. the fact that the polls have

moved so significantly in nevada in last week is important because this has always been a place where that white working class vote has been larger than in other places so if democrats were worried about one state in this area of the country, it was here in nevada. those worries are getting a little bit less intense. i think overall this kind of paints a picture about governing and the next race for the democratic party as much as it says about this very unique place in time in 2016. >> kasie, thank you very much, as we talk about the idea of governing, can you imagine if the campaign had been about governing and not the garbage.

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visiting last month during the u.n. general assembly. here are some of the arrivals if they're not in a food coma, gwen stefani is performing. that's all for tonight. chuck will be back tomorrow with a predebate edition of "mtp d daily" starts right now. >> it looks like someone on your team donald trump has you beat. >> he apologized. i accepted. i accepted his apology. >> i accepted his apology. >> he supports women. >> he's kind. he's a gentleman. he's kind, he's a gentleman. and they wrote lies and i will not allow that. that's what i will not allow people saying lies. it's damaging and it's unfair. it's damaging and it's unfair.