votes because it is a polarized election. a lot of people already made up their mind. both candidates have to moderate in their position going ahead rather than repeating from the last two debates. >> they're waiting for the signs to figure out who they are going to be voting for. a lot of folks are joining in. others are tuning in for the entertainment values. the university of the nevada of debate team. we got jacob thomason and matt, thank you very much, that's going to wrap up our hour. >> i am thomas roberts. my colleague, kate snow is pick things up right now. >> hey, i am snap chatting, is that okay? >> everybody, wow, look at this crowd. hello from las vegas. we are hours away from the final debate of 2016. most of today's political

actions happening behind the scene. no public events for either presidential candidates as they prepare for the hotly contested evening on the national stage here. it will be donald trump's first debate since declaring the shackles are off and hillary clinton will face new questions as well about e-mails. here is the backdrop. new poll numbers out. nationally, hillary clinton is up seven points. and that's taken over this weekend. we are going to check in on what both campaigns are up to as we are six hours away. katy tur covering the trump campaign for us and casey hundred. katy, let me start with you. a rare day for trump. he's not taken a lot of down time. >> he's taken no down time so far. he see him doing rallies after

rallies, the last ten days since the debate. yesterday, he was on the plane from colorado springs to grand junction, he was doing debate preps on foreign policy. a rare day not to see him on the campaign trail. what he's doing right now is trying to find a way to make sure that he can get under hillary clinton's skin on his third debate. this is his last chance to go in and come out of a strong impression for more voters, potentially, perhaps or muddle the water so much. >> you just reported on who he plans to have in the audience, in the room tonight >> this is what they did during the second debate, when they brought out bill clinton's accusers and this time, they'll bring on ambassador stevens's fiance and the half brother of

president obama, the estranged brother from kenya and pat smith who blames hillary clinton for the death of her son. >> they want to make sure they get on hillary clinton's record seas. >> they believe they have an open there. >> blaming her for the death of her son. >> march great, i was interviewed before he's a big trump supporter. >> at the time, he did initially endorsed rick perry. this was a change over. he was a big donald trump supporter. >> he's got some ads running. >> kasie. tell us about hillary clinton.

i do think the challenge for her and one thing donald trump has lost of this one is the elements of surprise. the clinton campaign prepares for him to throw tefeverything has at her. >> we know that bill clinton and milania trump will not shake hand as they cross path in the eye reena. the back and forth on this has gotten so ugly. >> hey, we don't want this to happen. really, donald trump is using this guest lists and the why he's presented this in an unprecedented way. >> this is has typically been something. it is a sign of -- there is mutual agreements among parties and everyone can be polite and confronting each other on stage. in many ways, it was the last

vener. >> it is going to be an interesting night. we got another best in the business, kelly o'donell, she's been keeping an eye on new ads and stories, what's the latest? >> we have been following all of this and las vegas gives us a backdrop that this campaign season can really live up to. >> a lot of fights and heights and l of colors in the neon. >> the donald trump campaign issued a new to have ad. it is called laura wilkinson. she's talk about the loss of her son who was not qualified for deportation under president's rule. >> immigration is a key issue. i am also told that there is some additional debate prep

that's happening later today and it has to have a bit of a twist. >> chris christie is not attending the debate tonight. the rnc, chair, ryan priebus, they had prior to this point, included christie anticipates what hillary clinton would say is shaping up answers for donald trump. here is a good way to response to that. >> relian priebus has been doing some resources. he does not want to do non-traditional format mock debate and to focus on what he wants to talk about. they are looking at this as an opportunity for hillary clinton

to have tens o f millions of americans watching tonight for her to look past just the election -- to a point of governance to set a landscape where there will be a point where the campaign season ends and the country needs to come together. that's timely because of the claim by trump and some of his top allies of being rigged election whether they mean media coverage not being even handed or actual mechanical voter ta tampering or frauder or all kinds of things they have been alleging for which there is no evidence yet. for hillary clinton trying to seize the night as a way of a harsh rhetoric of a two years campaign is almost over, encouraging voters to turn out and look beyond that. >> kelly o'donell. any sort of political significance. we always joined by the same

people. >> i am joined buy the co-hosts of msnbc, great to see you here. >> this is likely the last debate. >> my mom asked me last night, are they going to show up tonight? we think so. >> what is hillary clinton, let me start with her. what does she need to do tonight? >> look, i think she needs to not make a giant mistake. they're very popular candidates and trump has been in more hot water than she's been in the last couple of weeks. the extent that she can per norm in a confident way, she does not have to do anything. all the pressure is on donald trump. >> that sounds like the "snl" skit where she just stands back and let him go. >> we heard kelly o'donell of

the prep he's been doing with reince priebus. >> there is still two camps in tru trump's world. we want him to focus on the base oriented attacks and some people in the cam pause say focus on the message of change. you put an ad yesterday of the change of legacy in power. i suspect we hear more of that. >> and locker room talk was the line of the night of the last debate, john. >> of course, that was donald trump referring to the tape that came out from "access hollywood" >> i am going to put you on the spot. >> you're favorite thing. if you were a campaign manager -- >> you should be martian inva invading the country. >> line or theme of tonight?

>> one of krchris walsh es. i expect you will see a lot of that tonight from donald trump and chris wallace. >> i think some of these issues are related to her e-mail servers and the question is is she the right question to be the right president. >> i suspect tonight there would be an effort to turn that. >> i know she's ready for that. >> one of this i think thises we saw last night of marco rubio in the debate in florida, he said we should not be talking about these. republicans should stay away on it. this was an effort on the foreign government, russian and vladimir, we nould tt talk abou because next time it could be be us. >> that's based in a question

that chris walls put on donald trump. >> i mentioned i am going to come out. >> yeah. >> there is no way we are getting the debate without her asking in the right direction. >> both for chris and donald trump. there is probably 30 disclosures so you can imagine building a question around. >> we got a list, right? most of them don't go directly to her conducts or fews. how do they try to make a point. gossip among staffers are not relevant for voters. >> it shows a pattern of -- too secreti secretive, there is something that indicates. >> hey, you don't know if that's her allegedly e-mail. let me ask you about howard stern.

>> take a listen of what howard stern says about locker room talk. >> this idea of locker room talk, i got to tell you, all the times i have been around guys. when i am around guys, 85% of the time you are talking about [ bleep ]. i have never been in a room where someone has said grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> i have never heard of that term before. no one advocated going that step where you get a little hey, i am going to invade some of my space. >> so chuck todd made the comment, you know things are weird when howard stern is distancing himself from donald trump. >> not classy enough. >> what howard stern said, you have gone too far. >> it is no question, it sends questions to him and he

apologized to his wife. >> i think it is when donald trump loses this election, all the pollings, this will be the moment as people watching back on of the final mail in the coffin. >> if he is going to win, he needs to to be photoi-- for a l the women of the way he reacting of the alicia machado and the wo women accused him of it. it will be an interesting night. >> top the popcorn. >> coacc anchors on msnbc. >> donald trump trailing hillary clinton in mostly every switzerland state in

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nevada. you know what i said? i said when i come out here, i said it has to be nevada. if you don't say it correctly and it did not happen to me, it happens to a friend of mine.

for more on the state of nevada, i want to bring someone who knows the state well. nevada, nevada. john rolston is here with us, our political analyst. nice to see you again. >> i don't think i have seen you in person since we were here on the primary. >> here we are. what's happening? >> the rolling stones was supposed to play here tonight. >> i think he did that on purpose so he can come and watch the debate. >> trump is imploding nationally and his turms are hurt here,

too. >> he's playing that clip there. and trying to correct the people how to say the name of our state. listen, i think he's likely to throw the kitchen -- you know kat kate, predicting of what donald trump is doing on any given day. >> odd makers looking at the debate tonight and taking bets on what's going to happen tonight. clinton up here in this state by seven points. >> five points since september 13 while trump is down four points in that span. the state went for george bush twice. why do you think she's so far ahead now. >> the late deciders, generally, while the race was closed, everything that comes after

that, has hurt donald trump here. >> the dynamic of the state here has hurt the members. >> the dynamics of the changing of the large population especially the spanish population, that could be 20% of the vote. trump is getting crushed. >> in that demographic. >> the decision show that is 72% to 17%. lets talk a race that's impacted by what you impacted which your down ballot big senate race, right here? . harry reid is leaving so his seats is up for grabs. >> joe heck is up by three points. this is the only seat that they have a chance to win. that's why is so important to

hold on the the majority for that and for the democrats, they know they need to hold it. he does not want to let his seat turns red. that race, that polls you show there is very similar within the margins of error both ways. cortes needs help from the top of the ticket to win. >> it becomes harder for joe heck had embraced trump until recently. he thinks about him and said he should step down. he was booed at a rally. he was getting a viseray. ? >> if it is a significant number, he will have a tough time. >> i want to talk about donald trump a couple of times. >> the election being rigged, lets take a listen to his response apart of it. >> the only thing i have seen

rigged in this election is his mind. we have heard day after day the last two weeks. you cannot rig an election. >> what do you hear from nevada and folks here of the notion that you cannot rig this election? >> there are two groups here. die hard trump supporters will buy into this and they'll be determined maybe to vote so the election is not. then there is everybody else. normal people who'll say, elections cannot be rigged and that is outrageous. it is not something to make fun of, i don't think, kate. this is outrageous that a nominee for president of the united states trying to hurt the faith in the electoral process in the public. the election cannot be rigged.

we had our law enforcement here talking about how it impossible gain access. actually, i think it is scary. this is the kind of community where trump fans will pick up on that. you do have that large and growing latino populations and many are legal populations and some who are not. >> they don't understand the process as well as people have been voting for r a roa long ti. that's under mind faiths and the system that's electing leaders. it is insidious. >> john rolston, thank you very much for being with us. snow and i nice to see you again. >> it is a pleasure to see you today. >> ivanka trump was asked about

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donald trump's daughter, ivanka trump just wrapped up a speech? miguel, california. >> dagadi schwartz is in california. >> reporter: as soon as she sat down, that was the first question that was asked of her, she was asked to comment on what her father said to billy bush and she made it clear how she felt. take a listen. >> i did find it offensive. he acknowledged it and the tape was over a decade's old.

i am sure he did not remember the conversation but embarrassed by it. i appreciate that he did that. i think it was important for him to have done so. >> reporter: now, throughout this talk, throughout this interview that was conducted live in front of the powerful women summit here, ivanka trump defended her father saying he's been mischaracterized. and she talked about what she perceived is media biassed. when asked if her father would respect the outcome of the election, she said he's a good man and expects h i am im to do right thing. she made a point to distinguish herself not being a republican or a democrat but an

independent. she may share omnivosome of tho privately with her father with the exception of women's rights issues. she did talk about those publicly. she came forward talking about the women's rights issues and the gender wage gap. she says she would be talking about that because he had a big platform. that was something important to her brand that she has worked to develop as well and empowering a working woman. she's a mother of three. that was what she presented towards women at the republican national convention here at the most powerful women submmmit. that was a tougher sale earlier from anita hill, she got a standing ovation. >> gadi, thank you very much. >> the five things to watch for during tonight's final debate. our editor, beth fuohy is here

to break it down for us. we already said we need to pop our popcorn. >> third debate, which clinton shows up, did you say? >> the question is, is it going to be the dominant clinton that we saw at the hofstra debate where he wiped the floor with donald trump. the second was she sort of let him own that stage and he was quite tough on her and brought up the whole allegiance on her. all the polling started to move her way, she wanted to get out of his way. >> what stunt will trump pull this time as you suspect he will. >> you know a little bit about, last time he brought guests of some of the women who accused of

bill clinton of sexually assault priori priority, and tonight he's bringing a half brother of president obama's who's kenya. he's continuing this effort bringing all these people in the audience to rattle her. the question is whether she will be rattled. she seems a little rattle in the second debate but since this time she's expecting it, she will be prepared. >> what happens with chris wallace. it is a tough job to be the sole moderator of the debate. last debate of the soul moderator to challenge them and chris wallace is coming from fox news and has a lot of conservatives in their audience and expecting a certain line of questions from him and what fox news want as oppose to a large national audience is going to be

interesting to see. >> john and mark were talking about this. this needs to be a big night tonight. >> it is pretty much his last chance. we are expecting a huge audience and the last time he's going get an audience of this side, taking a look and giving him another chance. is he trying to reach out beyond that base, is he going to say hey, look, independence and moderates and others who seem to be unsure of me. come back in, the water is fine. i can be that canndidate that yu consider. >> we are less than three weeks away. >> the fifth and final is the message we have been hearing of donald trump of wide scale voter's fraud. he's been ramping up that message in his rally. again, speaking to his audience who are going to believe him and are going to feel the upset about this and the way he's

describing the potential of widespread and whether he does this in front of the audience, 50 states and many of them are republicans prevailing over a rigged election. if he's trying to make it convincing, he needs to step in front of this big audience. >> beth, fouhy, thank you very much. >> i will be joining with trump's surrogate, steve cortes is with us, stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪

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i want to welcome a member of trump's national hispanic adviser counsel, nice to see you. >> thanks for having me, steve cortes. >> i will start easy. >> what is trump doing tonight? >> i think what he need to do, the last debate, i thought he did a great job of stopping the bleeding. he shows he's still a viable candidate. what he needs to do tonight and will do is speak effectively to the understand decided people and women who were on his side. he needs to show them that on a macro issues of growth and security that the status quo is unacceptable and we have a better way for him. if he does that tonight, he will

rally and win in a few weeks in november. >> we spoke to you a lot, you said the conversations should be about issues and should not be about the past or certainly about bill clinton's past. there is a new bill clinton accuser coming forward. will she be in the audience and do you think she should be in the audience? >> you know, i don't have any particular opinion, it is not important to me. i don't think it is important to most voters. i have said several times. i don't care. look, much of the mainstream media, sex cell and scandal cell. americans are having a hard time paying their bills and obamacare is raising premiums and not improving their jobs at all. >> you said the mainstream media? >> that's a fair point. i am saying, my point is this, i

don't care of this, i don't care what happens in arkansas in the 1980s. if we want to go for that path, there are some stories out there, anything but positive, i can equal all of them or not more about the clinton's in the past. what i care about is in 2016, where are we today and where can we go as a country. hillary clinton is a status quo candidate. if you are think 1% growth is c country. she's your candidate. if you are not okay with that and think that we are better, economically, if you think we can have much, much safer world both at home and abroad. we need change. donald trump is the mavericks outsider, changed candidate and take our government back for the people. >> we are getting new e-mails

from john podesta. >> republican marco rubio spoke about those e-mails earlier, i want to play what he says and get your response. >> what i would say of my colleagues by the position i take is today is them and tomorrow could be us. do we want to be a country where foreign leaders and agencies can blackmail or elected officials. there is plenty materials we can line up to take on secretary clinton. this is a chaos for the future. >> well, it would be dangerous if we celebrate it. i have a lot of respect for marco rubio, i think he should spend time focusing on his campaign rather than the presidential campaign right now. >> what he's done, it is unveiled the utter hipocrac

hipocracy -- i would say fine, if marco rubio is right and if he is, put that aside. lets go with what we know outside of hacks. what we know from freedom of information requests and about the attempted collusion of the states department and the fbi. this is corruption at worst. i am in chicago, it is hard to embarrass me when it comes to embarrassment. this is the corruption of the unknown of the highest level of government. she's unfit to occupy the commander chief's office. we have so many corruptions that is an issue to the american people. >> if you don't want to dig into the details which i understand. most americans busy living their lives and coaching their kids

and paying their bills, they don't pay attention 24/7 the way you and i do to the news flow here. the clinton's have made over $200 million in speaking fees. does anybody believe that's because they're such great speakers or they are selling something else. have they been for sell? i think they cannot be back in the white house of the united states. >> steve cortes with the trump's campaign. thank you for being with us. >> joining me now i is cecil richards, of the planned parenthood. nice to see you. >> what does hillary clinton need to achieve tonight? >> she has to continue what she has been doing making this election about issues and vision for the american people. she goes low as i think donald

trump has gone low. that's why we are seeing such record. i am out of support a. she's dealing with the issues on the minimithe american people. she's done well on the last two debates and i am so proud of her and of some of the behaviors of donald trump, she demonstrated that she's ready to be commander in chief. she has a temperament and that's what we'll see tonight. >> just heard steve cortes talking about wikileaks and something leaking out. so many that we are having trouble to keep up with the flow. some of them out today shows the staffs urging her to speak to millennials. another one talks about how she's doing about the e-mails and the other one, they really want her to say she's progressive so she can take on

bernie sanders. she's a political machine just trying to win votes. >> i totally disagree, kate, i appreciate what senator rubio said, which is our own intelligence agency has said, this is an effort of the foreign government interfered in the democratic process in our elections, there is no moracity to this. >> he's putting the electoral process ahead of his own political future. this is i think is one more indication of the fact that he's temperly unfit to be commander in chief. she's fighting for equal pay and healthcare coverage, the kind of issues that's on the american mind voters. >> we have a list that could go

off the rails. >> debt and entitlements and immigration and economy and supreme court and hot spots. not on that list is what you do, women's issues and abortion. it is not on the list, does that need to come up tonight? >> the issue of reproductive rights have come up and hillary clinton has raised many times. donald trump has promised to end access to planned parenthood for millions of people in this country. he does not police chief in equal pay, he said that pregnancy is an inconvenient for employers. hillary clinton has been a strong supporter of women's helhe will health and rights. >> cecil richards.

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today msnbc news has exclusive interviews of donald trump making advances against them in 2012.

that's stoynoff in that picture just in case i start kissing her. i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i automatically start kissing them. >> during the second presidential debate he called his remarks locker room talk. when pressed he denied ever physically acting on those words. >> you're saying for the record you never did that. >> you hear these things i said. i was embarrassed by it, i have tremendous respect for women -- >> have you ever done those things. >> women have tremendous respect for me, and i will tell you -- no, i did not. >> the "people" magazine writer decided to come forward after hearing trump's denial at that

debate. yesterday people magazine published this article with the stories of five people who say that natasha told them the same story over the years. and another friend who said she was with stoynoff when she ran into melania trump six months later. paul mcglocklin, her professor at the time, liz mcneal her colleague. a >> when she got back, i spoke to her, she told me what happened, that donald trump had pushed her against the wall and forced his tongue down her throat. >> what was your reaction? >> i was shocked, of course, i had never heard of such a thing. she was shane up. i wanted to do what i could for her to protect her. >> what was your advice at the time? >> we talked it through.

i think she just wanted someone to listen to her. we wanted to tell her that she would be okay. that must have been an incredibly hard thing for her. i was much more of a listener and confident and she confided in us and asked us not to tell anyone. >> in the same time frame, you got a phone call, you had been natasha's professor? >> i had been her teacher, taught her a couple courses at reyerson school of journalism in toronto. after she graduated i became a mentor for her, we became friends. she would phone me from new york and ask me advice on a difficult story. she called me the night of the event, distraught from her hotel in florida, told me what happened and was crying at times, angry, shocked but i think confused maybe more than anything. she wanted my advice as to what

to do. >> what did you tell her to do? >> a prof wants the other person to come to the decision herself. i walked through the scenario and asked myself, what would donald trump do if she confronted him. i didn't think it was a matter for the police. the next thing was to confront him or make it a big to do through the magazine. i felt he was not going to turn around and admit to his supermodel pregnant wife that the minute she walked out of a room, he did this to the reporter. so what would he maybe do if natasha brought it to light. i thought one scenario would be he would accuse her of coming on to him, and would say that she's now trying to extort him, and i think that he -- i said to her, i think he could destroy you. destroy your career. >> so essentially, you gave her the advice to -- >> i did.

>> to not take any action? >> i did. i thought that he had all the cards, and she had none. and at the time, she was -- she would have been a lone voice. right now she's not a lone voice. then she would have been. i also thought he could go to the magazine and put the magazine in a difficult spot by saying, you get rid of her or you have no access to me. he was the biggest thing on television at the time. he could do that to other magazines, he could black list her in the business. you know, it's a small business. i didn't see what she would win. how could she possibly win, apart from standing up for something that was wrong. but at what cost? >> that's a portion of cynthia mcfadden's new interview. cynthia joins me now. i know you just wrapped this up. donald trump has said this woman should have come forward in 2005 or written about what happened when she wrote her article in 2005. what did these two witnesses you

talked, to what did they say about the timing of all this, coming out just now, three weeks before the election. >> her law professor, journalism professor said, i pushed hard on that. listen, what did happen, was "people" magazine wrote a real puff piece about donald and melania, and their happily wedded bliss, and the new baby. why didn't she refuse at least to do the piece that appeared in "people" magazine. listen, she was in an impossible position. i believe she needed to hold her nose and get through it, that's what she did. she believed donald trump would strike out against her. and he made a very persuasive argument for why he believes she did exactly the right thing at the time. they say her story has been consiste consistent. she talked to them independently. do you believe she was laying a trap so if donald trump ran for

president in 2016 she could come forward? you know, we were hoping also to talk to the friend who says she was present on fifth avenue when the writer natasha says she ran into melania trump, which melania trump has knocked down saying that didn't happen. a friend said, who liz has talked, to said she was with natasha, the author, when it happened and melania trump. she remembers specifically, because melania trump was wearing high heels and carrying a baby, and she was impressed with that feat. more information coming forward, kate. >> and natasha stoynoff doesn't want to come out and speak at the moment. >> yeah, i think both of them said, she got a real push back, bigger than she'd expected. >> cynthia mcfadden with that brand new reporting, we will be right back live from unlv, where in just over five hours, hillary clinton and donald trump face off in that venue.

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that's going to do it for me, from the university of nevada las vegas, thanks for being here this afternoon. i will see you back again tomorrow. 3:00 p.m. back in new york. for now, steve kornacki is up on stage, he's going to take it over. hey, steve. >> good afternoon, everybody. i'm steve kornacki on the campus of the university of las vegas. tonight the third and final presidential debate, it's going to kick off in just over five hours from now. for donald trump it is desperation time, and that is not an exaggeration. unwanted sexual contact playinging his campaign these last few weeks, his poll numbers nationwide, they have dropped