support me, but really doesn't have an interest in downed ballots. >> thanks for rolling as we watch the president's speech down there in florida. that is going to do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki here in new york. "mtp daily" with chuck todd starts right now. it's thursday. donald trump says he'll now accept the election results. but boy, is he kidding. >> tonight while republicans struggle again to explain away another trump head scratcher, the candidate makes a joke. >> i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. >> plus, would it really be possible to rig a presidential election if someone actually tried to do it? and the missed opportunities to sway more undecided voters. this is "mtp daily" and it

starts right now. good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." 19 days until the election. we look at the world now with these 19 days. republicans included spent the last 24 hours picking up their jaws as donald trump told people he might not accept the election results. >> do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely -- sir -- that you will absolutely accept the result of this election? >> i will look at it at the time. i'm not looking at anything now. i'll look at it at the time. >> one of the prides of this country is the transition of power. are you saying you're not capable -- >> what i'm saying is i'll tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense.

>> chris, let me respond to that, because that's horrifying. >> this is more than a nightmare for republicans. it overwhelmed everything else in the debate and it created a whole new issue for down ballot republicans. this afternoon trump attempted to clean things up. >> of course, i would accept a clear election result, but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. and always i will follow and abide by all of the rules and traditions of all of the many candidates who have come before me. >> a little stronger there, but that's not all he said. there's more from trump. we'll have more from trump in a moment. trump's refusal, though, to accept the election result at the debate is the front page story pretty much everywhere. take a look at these front page headlines simply from major papers in battleground states across the country. they are all focused on that one

debate moment. that is the headline. pennsylvania, florida, ohio, virginia, colorado, iowa, north carolina, nevada, wisconsin, utah. yes, utah, the battleground state. we could go on and on. we just narrowed it down to the battleground state major newspapers. his comment brought a pile-on by voters. rob portman, the sanctity of the ballot box is important to our democracy. kell ly ayotte. should accept the outcome. wee going to accept the will of the people. i cannot speak for what he thinks. trump's running mate mike pence will absolutely accept the outcome of this election. just moments ago, senator john thune, number 3 in the senate,

added this, quote, the american electoral process is the cornerstone of our democracy. suggesting otherwise undermines an electoral system that is a model for nations around the world. john mccain said, in every previous election, the lose e con grat lats the winner and calls them my president. that's not just the republican way or the democratic way, it's the american way. donald trump had a rally in ohio, but then he added this. >> ladies and gentlemen, i want to make a major announcement today. i would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the united states that i will totally accept the results of this great and

historic presidential election if i win. >> i actually had two jokes prepared for today, one saying trump would accept clinton's acceptance speech without contentions and what you just heard. why do we know he had two jokes prepared? because we received both jokes, the one that was told and the alternate. this person who asked trump to drop out of the race would never endorse him. is that fair? >> he lost me, frankly, at mexican rapist way back when. but i hoped he would change and realize he's a major party candidate and that he would change. but he hasn't. in fact, it's just gotten worse. i cannot overstate how important

this is to deny that you may accept the election results. it's unfathomable that you could do that. >> you know, the damage -- first of all, let me ask you this. did he walk it back enough today? >> no. not at all. you could make a joke about it, but he hasn't walked it back. if you look at the series of tweets that were released this morning about the last election where he was talking about revolution and this was a farce, this last election, then you realize that this is not new, that he's had these feelings before. it's not just disturbing in terms of what democracy means and peaceful transfer of power, but it's an incredibly selfish thing to do as well. for those downed ballot candidates on the republican

side to tell your supporters and your voters that the election is rigged and therefore their vote doesn't mean anything is a terrible thing to do. >> do you believe the republicans are doomed to hold senate? >> i hope republicans see through it and see, even more, the importance if he's not going to make it to the white house that we have the checks and balances that we need with divided government. i hope that it drives out turnout, and i think that's the responsibility of our elected officials to talk about these elections aren't rigd. i think the more of us that come out and reassure the voters of that, the better off we all are. trump loosely throws out the voter fraud. in fact, there is a couple of tweets he put out. this was one four days ago.

he said -- one three days ago. he said, of course, there is large voter fraud happening on and before election day. why do reporters deny what's going on? so naive. the election is clearly being run by distorted media, pushing crooked hillary. let me ask you this. do you think he's had help selling this myth because we've had some loose talk in governors who tried to, in pushing a voter i.d. law, tried to drum up the fact that voter fraud is real. perhaps. i do hear that talk a lot to me. we hadn't had voter fraud. it happens in the extreme margins, and probably as much on one side as the other.

so the notion that it affects the election results, particularly in a presidential race, is just absurd. so, yeah, i think we all need to be more responsible in the language we use with regard to elections. >> last night there was something else. i believe you're in foreign relations, if i'm not mistaken. do you accept the idea that it's russia that's, the hacks of the dnc and the hack of podesto? do you accept this? >> yes, i do accept it. and i think it's disturbing. >> what do you think trump does by not fully accepting the television briefings he himself are getting. >> to dismiss that and put your own judgment before that of the

intelligence community. i don't think that he does the institutions. >> do you think we've not responded too political domestically? do you think we made a mistake here, the obama administration, they've been too cautious in responding to russia. >> i think. it is concerning, deeply concerning to the countries there. this advent richl going on with regard to russia, and i do think we need to certainly assert american leadership in a way that hasn't been in the recent past. >> you're an arizona senator. i have to ask you, the clinton

camp really does believe arizona

because our democracy depends on people knowing that their vote matters. >> you know, there is a tactical mistake that trump has made. i have seen it. it looks like the lack of engagement going on three weeks ago. the more trump talks about this, it's had an adverse effect, hasn't it? >> yeah, it's had a big effect. you hear things like donald trump talk about -- and you talk about a reverse effect. he keeps talking about how things are rigged, how the election is rigged, and everyone is saying, wait a minute, what about voting rights? you had reverend jesse jackson there talking about, we've had an issue of voting rights. this is the first time in 53 years that we've had an election covered by the full protection of voting rights, and you have him talking about how everything is rigged. if you want to go down that

line, let's really deal with that kind of issue. donald trump is galvanizing now for hillary clinton in a lot of ways. and you cannot deny it. i mean, last night, you had people who were very upset who were in the republican party who did not want to talk to donald trump because of things he's saying against women. so it's -- >> these are supporters. >> these are republican supporters who are very upset. >> i think it has the effect, too, of dampening enthusiasm of republicans. these things are rigged, why do i show up? >> that's done more damage to republicans than anything. >> if you are pat toomey in pennsylvania, if you are running anywhere where you need suburban -- actually, suburban women, suburban college voters to come out, barbara comstock in northern virginia, and you have the leader of your party saying it's all rigged, it doesn't

matter. why am i going to bother to show up and vote? >> the way he's kind of walked it back -- this is a clip from mesa. this is donald trump during the primary season. take a listen. >> you've been hearing me say it's a rigged syem, but now i don't say it anymore because i won. okay? now i don't care! i don't care. >> that's an honest statement. >> he keeps saying, i've won, i've won. when you're in too thhat type o power, it's about serving the people. it's not about we win, it's about i win. if i win -- where are the supporters in this equation. >> we all heard the senator, and we've all been discussing would this be a very intelligent

tactic to try to win the presidential election, so what's going on here? you have to begin to think that what's going on is he's already moved on to the idea of forming this movement after the election, whether it's a media company or whatever else, and figures he can try to delegitimize president clinton if she is elected the same way he tried to with president obama. >> he said something else last night. he did say he didn't think she should be allowed to run. >> he wanted to disallow her from running. what does he have in mind? >> that it's clear from -- this would be -- i don't know that -- >> he's going down the fbi route, that's where he's going. >> as more e-mails or fbi documents show it looks like some sort of collusion between the state department and the fbi and that she's getting extra benefits -- >> they used collusion to try to

undermine this election if she wins. >> it's also pure, selfish petulance, maybe what he's trying to do further down the road. i think this is simply, i'm losing and i don't like it. >> there is a movement that feels disenfranchised in this nation that we haven't heard from. they're coming from places we've never seen and they're following him, and the problem is they'll continue to follow him after this. and the question is, can the republican party stand this because they are now so divided that they can't even bridge the gap. because change is coming whether he wins or not. >> now that you have jeff flake and husted in ohio, you have people, really, only the kansas secretary of state, chris covack, who has dealt into conspiracy fraud himself, is the

only one not distancing himself from trump. you have a whole party restructuring. if they're rigged, then apparently they've been rigged in the republicans' favor. >> if trump loses, will he sit at the top of trump tower and insisting people call him president trump and building a replica of the oval office? i don't think so, but this is where it's going. >> there was one other shocking moment right at the end of the debate, and i think we were all getting ready for the post debate, and we almost missed it. let me play it right here. >> my social security payroll contribution wl go up, as will donald's, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it, but what we want to do is replenish this trust fund by making sure that we have sufficient resources. >> yeah. you know, this is what has con

founded him in these debates. in the primary debates, he was able to goad his opponents by dropping things like that into going down with him into those certifieds. no, you're nasty. she refused to do that. and she got under his skin in every single debate for about 30 minutes. >> it lasted about 30 minutes. >> you can see how much he hshe gotten under his skin, because he would not look at her and she was kind of in a moment where she could have shaken his hand and moved to chris wallace. that's genuinism and that speaks to who he really is. >> we're talking about what he said in the republican party. that may draw more voters than

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hillary clinton was off the trail today, but michelle obama is rallying supporters in. that's right, the newest battleground state, arizona. let's take a listen. >> and when times are tough, hope is all you have. so the hope that sustains us, it isn't some naive idea that if you sit around and do nothing, everything will be okay. no, no, our hope is grounded in hard work and hard-earned faith. it is grounded in belief that there is something greater than us that reminds us we are all precious and worthy. no matter where we come from. u .

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there's no way to rig an election in a country this big. i don't know if donald trump has ever been to an actual polling place where you have democrats and republicans who are in charge of taking the votes. but, you know, he doesn't even worry if what he says is true. this is just about him worried that he's losing. >> we said it before and we'll say it again. claims that widespread fraud exists are just bogus. claim number one, there is evidence of fraud in the voter rolls. trump cites a pugh study from 2012 and they're no longer valid or accurate. that has been debunked again and again. sure, it's proof of bad recordkeeping, but no actual voter fraud has been found as a result.

plus, the census estimates that 2-plus million americans die every year. so guess what, the latter has more to do with the cycle of life than it does when it comes to fraudulent voter registrations. trump's claim number 2, a washingt"washington post" story says non-citizens are voting. it was written by academics, not reporters, and has been widely panned for using bad data. finally trump says to look out for fraud in places like chicago and philadelphia and warns of voting multiple times there. again, it's not true and let's find out why from my next guest. richard hoffman is an investor, co-author of a leading case book. i guess nobody in the country and nobody in our industry looks to anybody else other than rick hossen. rick, welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> let's start with that last item there, the idea that the

elections in chicago and philadelphia, those polls, u yo have to watch out for them. people might vote multiple times. why is that a bogus charge? >> he's told police to go to those areas to look for the fraud. he said people could vote 5, 10 or 15 times in south philadelphia because they don't have strict i.d. laws. even if a place without a strict i.d. law, once you vote you're done. so you would have had to register in 5 or 10 or 15 polling places, or you'll go in to a polling place, claim you're somebody else, hope that person didn't vote and that you're not caught. i couldn't find a single election anywhere in the country where this kind of fraud was used since at least the 1980s to try to swing any kind of election. >> i was going to ask you about that, which is it does seem as

if there have been -- there are more safeguards now than there were, say, 20 years ago. i'm going to get the date wrong, but i know there was a miami mayors race where there was absentee ballot vote fraud. it was caught, and i think they ended up throwing out the results and having a new election. but they also changed the system down there in nflorida, i believe, to make it a little harder to duplicate or forge signatures. how much cleaner are things, say, compared to 30 years ago? >> well, they are cleaner but absentee voter fraud remains a real but small problem. in 1998, results were thrown out, but in my same study i couldn't find impersonation fraud used to win an election, or maybe somebody paid $20 for an absentee ballot. still a real problem. it's not the kind of problem that trump is talking about and it's not the kind of problem that you could swing a presidential election by paying thousands of people for their

balance l ballots and voting without it being detected. >> i want to ask you about a 1982 rnc consent decree. there was a lawsuit that the democratic party dny filed against the rnc having to do with -- i guess one would call it voter intimidation, one would call it just simply keeping an eye on the polls. walk me through it. >> in the 1980s, the democratic national committee sued the republican national committee saying the rnc was engaging in voter intimidation, sending off-duty police officers with guns into african-american areas. we saw the same thing in new jersey. in order to settle the case, it was a settlement between the parties that's enforced by the court. the rnc agreed not to engage in this kind of activity. they still did it, but the

consent decree was extended. it was set to end next year, but it can be extended another eight years if the rnc is still engaging in this activity. that's why you saw the story in yesterday's wall street journal where it says, please don't engage in anything with the trump campaign because they don't want to wait another eight years where they're not allowed to see any poll watching because they'll get caught up in this. >> so trump says, hey, after you vote, go to other polling places and just keep an eye on things. if that happens, that will cost the republican party another eight years, in your mind? that would be a judge's decision? >> the question is whether trump would be acting as an agent of the rnc. the campaigns are pretty mesh now, so the more the rnc and trump are seeing this is

cooperating, they may try to organize your lunch or they'll be tempted to do our own rick hossen. glood to see you, sir. >> i hope not. did either candidate do anything to win over a handful of undecided voters, specifically ken bone?

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stourp undecided ohio voters were divided on who won but deniably turned off by trump's activity. watch what happened on the dial when trump called clinton a liar. >> we have to renegotiate these agreements because our country cannot afford to defend saudi arabia, japan, germany, south korea and many other places. she took that to mean nuclear weapons. she's proved to be a liar in so many different ways, this is just another lie. >> well, i'm just quoting you when there is -- >> you're not make anything quotes from me. >> trump's barrage of attacks. when you go above 50, you see it's going well, when you dip below, it's not going well.

the group was not very impressed with the way clinton handled a hack of alleged e-mails by wikileaks. >> i was talking about energy. we trade more energy with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined. i do want us to have an electric grid, an energy system that crosses borders. i think that would be a great benefit to us. but you are very clearly quoting from wikileaks, and what's really important about wikileaks is that the russian government has engaged in espionage against americans. >> as you can see, that answer didn't really fly. chris cifinos moderated the focus group. basically, what did you learn from this focus group? i want to go over one more clip and then get into other things. overall, what did you learn from

this? >> the way trump has attacked her personally has been more than just destructive. it has moved voters away from him that otherwise would have been open to potentially supporting him because of his economic message, which they do react to. >> all right. let's show it. this is his tpp answer, and watch this group of undecided ohioans react to his tpp answer. >> jobs are being sucked out of our economy. you looked at all the places i just left. you go to pennsylvania, you go to ohio, you go to any of them, you go to upstate new york, our jobs have fled to mexico and other places. we're bringing our jobs back. i'm going to renegotiate nafta. if i can't make a great deal, we're going to terminate nafta and create new deals. >> was that his best answer? >> it was one of the strongest. >> to get up to 80. >> that's pretty high. the economic message, especially

in a state like ohio where you had people who lost significant jobs to trade, it's appealing. the problem is he's his own worst enemy when it comes to these kinds of messages. at the moment he seems to be reaching them, he then pivots and makes it a personal attack against hillary, which totally turns these undecided voters off. >> you interviewed one of them after it about this. let me play a little interview you did with her about the negativity issue. here it is. >> he just wants to be more of a -- to prove that he won more than actually wanting to be the president and, you know, doing the right things for the country. it is more to say i beat you. >> you said it was a shared sentiment on the negativity. >> one thing we've seen, and this is the difference between when you talk about base voters and folks who decided and undecideds and soft leaners. they want a candidate to speak

to why they should vote for you, why they should vote for hillary, why they should vote for trump. it hurts trump more than it does hillary, to be frank. that's because he already has this preexisting narrative of being negative. >> he also began every answer attacking her. he begins negative and then eventually gets to what he wants to say, but i wonder how much that hurts him. >> when i asked the group who was more negative? just to put it into context, we had seven folks leaning to hillary but still undecided, 18 still completely undecided and seven who leaned trump but still undecided. 21 said trump was more negative, one said clinton, the rest said both. here's the part i asked at the end of the group. if trump had been more positive and more presidential in this race, do you think he would be winning this election? 31 out of 32 said yes. so the part that's amazing about this, and i know this is probably going to drive some democrats crazy, but when you talk to these folks, especially

in some of these key battlegrounds, they want change. they're frustrated with the political system. his message is there, he's just the wrong messenger. >> the bottom line is he had to work really hard to lose these people and he did it. >> yes. if there's one thing that i will tell you that will haunt him until the end of his days is that he had an opportunity here. it wasn't going to be easy because he's a flawed candidate, but he had an opportunity here to reach these people because they're so desperate and they're so concerned about what they believe is the country going off on the wrong track, right track, it doesn't matter, they just have these concerns. instead of giving a positive visual, he didn't. hillary has, and that's why she's done a more effective job in these groups and elections as a whole. >> nobody can understand how anybody is undecided. but after being with these 32 people, do you get why people are undecided? >> yeah. i hear this a lot. how can you possibly be undecided. we feel like, you still don't

know? if you look at this really objectively, they look at both of these candidates and they see flaws. they see concerns. they like certain things about trump in terms of his positive message. they look at secretary clinton and they love her experience, they love her knowledge, they know she's ready to be president, but they're not ready to commit yet. i asked them, how are you possibly still undecided, and someone actually said, i still am waiting to hear more. and i wanted to say, what more do you need to hear? it is where we are. >> it is where we are. ken bone, where are you? up next, what will have me on the edge of my seat tonight. stay tuned. i can do more than just look the part. is that a foot? we are the tv doctors of america. and we're partnering with cigna to help save lives. by getting you to a real doctor for an annual check-up. so go, know, and take control of your health. doctor poses.

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2006, 2008, they were up double digits. in the latest polling out of the battleground states where trump's slipping, you've got candidates who are republicans still out-performing trump by as much as nine points. but if it's more than nine points, can they hold on? >> president obama was in miami today. when you look at our top nine senate races, and we still, believe, are in play, florida's nine. it's sort of hanging on, because rubio can't put murphy away, even though the democrats have basically decided to pull their money out. here's what he said. >> i agree with the u.s. senator, a republican, who a while back, said that we can't offered to give the nuclear codes of the united states to an erratic individual. by the way, you know who said that? marco rubio. why does marco rubio still plan to vote for donald trump? why is he supporting donald trump? >> you know, michael, during the

convention, president obama made a striking admission and he said, we know what happened in cleveland. he said, it was neither republican nor conservative. it was almost this prmermission slip to say, hey, we know, we're not going to blame the republican party on you. now here he is going, trump's been disqualified, why are you still with him? and trying to create some coattails, or reverse coattails? >> and doing it very well. and the other thing is, you remember president obama in 2008, 2007, professorial, a little bit stiff, that's why the campaign did not go so well at the beginning. he's become a real happy warrior. the other thing we are seeing more than at any time in modern history, a president really doing everything we can to help his designated successor. if eisenhower had done that for nixon in 1960, there would never have been a president kennedy. >> just as michael was finishing his sentence, april, i was thinking today, hillary clinton hasn't campaigned today, but michelle obama's in arizona and barack obama's in miami.

>> and which would have been the most effective campaigner of the three today? >> exactly. the one in arizona. >> the most effective is the one -- >> in arizona. >> mrs. obama. the one that will not run for office, but she feels this -- >> she hates politics. i don't think people understand how hard they begged her to get involved in '10, they begged her to get involved in '14. she wasn't thrilled with how much she had to do in '12. this has been different. trump's motivated her in a way that she's never been motivated. you have to understand. you know why she's motivated? because she, as soon as she was the face of the next first lady of the united states, the attacks started coming. not only was it about her gender, but it was about her physicality. it was about her as an african-american woman. so -- and they've been coming and coming. i remember the first article -- one of the first newspaper spreads, you know, because she's an african-american woman, her and her husband were fist pounding and she had an afro and

it was just crazy and she was supposed to be this militant woman. she was a woman who was proud of her husband, whether she was black white, jew, protestant, or catholic. and she's been under the spotlight for her hips, for her lips, for her look. but this woman has carried the flame. she's helped young people. she's helped us with our weight issues. she's helped us with the veterans. >> she's the most popular politician in the country. >> bigger than her husband right now. and she's carrying hillary clinton's water for her. >> what are you watching to see if this is turning into -- >> into a big wave. >> a '64/'80 style wave. >> i want to see the congressional ballot test, if that really starts to move. and in these swing states, how much more are these republican candidates able to overperform. if trump drops, are you still going to see pat toomey holding on. >> it seems if there's anybody, it may be rubio.

the democrats have pulled out, because they're saying, it's all coattails. an extra $10 million isn't going to make the dumps. it either is going to happen or it's not. >> and the fact that priorities usa is now in new hampshire and pennsylvania tells you where they think this race drops out. >> very interesting. all right, guys, thank you very much. after the break, we have a laughing matter to tell you about. stay tuned. it's endless shrimp at red lobster. with another new flavor you never saw coming... grilled, glazed korean bbq shrimp. and try as much as you want of flavors like new parmesan peppercorn shrimp.

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finally tonight, in case you missed it, there's a big, big difference between donald trump and hillary clinton.

no, not their positions on taxes or climate change or whether the election will be legitimate. no, it's more about this. [ laughing ] >> hillary clinton laughs. she laughs a lot. she laughs at things that are funny. she laughs at things that aren't funny. she laughs at things to give her time to think of a better answer. and then there's dond trump. have you ever seen him laugh? ever? i'll be honest, i haven't. trump has more facial expressions than jim carrey. trump smirks, he grimaces, he's dismissive, and yes, he even smiles, but i've never seen donald trump laugh, not once. why do i care about this? keep an eye on tonight. you know i'm not going to be watching it, i'll watch it on tape, but when both trump and clinton make an appearance at a dinner, candidates traditionally poke fun at each other and at themselves and they laugh. so the question is, will trump?

you can find out for yourself. msnbc will have coverage of the alf smith eastern. it would create the fourth conflict for me. sorry, al. go dodgers, go canes, go, pac, go. i'm mark halperin. >> and i'm mike heilemann. it's never a good idea to argue with someone who buys ink or rocket fuel by the barrel. >> i thought what i sent was a humorous tweet, that had #senddonaldtospace. the final thing in the hashtag. and i have a rocket company, so, the capability is there. ♪