tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC October 22, 2016 3:00am-4:01am PDT
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or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. in november, 2008, at an open-air plaza on a beautiful night in arizona, republican senator john mccain gave a speech that has supporters did not want to hear. his supporters loved him, supported him, but he was there to do something they did not want. you could almost see in him the almost physical strain it took for him to keep a lid on their emotions. for him as a leader to stop the raging sentiment and upset and emotion on that plaza among his supporters, to stop it from boiling over. >> my friends, we have come to the end of a long journey. the american people have spoken,
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and they have spoken clearly. a little while ago, i had the honor of calling senator barack obama to -- [ boos ] -- to congratulate him -- please. to congratulate him on being elected the next president of the country that we both love. [ boos ] in a contest as long and difficult as this campaign has been, his success alone commands my respect for his ability and perseverance. my heart is filled with nothing but gratitude for the experience. and to the american people for giving me a fair hearing before deciding that my own friend senator obama and joe biden will have the honor of leading us for the next four years. [ chanting ] >> please. please. i would not --
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>> the start of john mccain's concession speech election night 2008. the crowd in arizona is booing every time he mentions senator obama, booing that mccain is conceding. by the end, senator mccain has mostly gotten that under control. sort of scattered boos. did you notice at the end of that little piece that we played, the crowd started to take a turn at the end -- not to just booing obama. at the end they started yelling, "sarah! sarah! sarah!" we didn't know that night, but we know after the fact that governor sarah palin actually wanted to give her own concession speech that night in 2008. that's a thing that running mates don't do. but she had apparently had a speech written. she shout for sure she was -- she thought for sure she was going to give her own concession, her own moment in the spotlight, but the idea was definitively and firmly kiboshed by steve schmidt who told her, no, you will not be speaking tonight. in the end, sarah palin did not
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give a speech. she was allowed to stand on stage with her husband and senator mccain's wife, cindy, while the presidential candidate himself, while senator mccain, gave what was a really nice noble speech. and the crowd didn't necessarily receive it all that well. they still booed and hollered against senator obama a lot at the beginning of the speech. even a little by the end. but that kroutd hadcrowd had a totally different unforced positive reaction any time senator mccain mentioned his running mate. no wonder she thought she ought to be able to give a speech that night. >> i am also -- i am also, of course, very thankful to governor sarah palin, one of the best -- [ wild cheers and applause ] the best i've seen. [ applause ]
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one of the best campaigners i have ever seen, and an impressive new voice in our party for reform and the principles that have always been our greatest strength. her husband, todd, and their five beautiful children. [ applause ] for their tireless dedication to our cause and the courage and grace they showed in the rough and tumble of a presidential campaign. we can look forward to her future service to alaska, the republican party, and our country. [ applause ] >> crowd goes wild. crowd goes as positive as they went that whole night. the night of the john mccain concession speech in 2008, that crowd was bummed out. there was a lot of open container in that crowd. people were not happy. it was late. they were turning to drink and sadness and booing.
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they love john mccain. sad and angry that he lost. they were not psyched about senator obama, this new president. sarah palin, that was an unreserved high point. applause every time sarah palin was mentioned and sometimes shouting of her name whenever somebody needed something positive to yell. when sglajohn mccain was lookin forward with, what did he say, forward to great service to the state of alaska, the republican party, and our country, i'm sure he didn't know that service would be over in a few months. that concession speech by john mccain was november, 2008. by the following summer, the following july, sarah palin was out of public office. she gave this announcement on the fourth of july weekend in 2009 that happen it was not the easiest thing to figure out. she convened reporters at her home in alaska on short notice. she gave very long remarks. they initially sounded like she might be announcing like a very, very, very early run for president herself in 2012. then it sounded like she might be announcing a different run --
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a run for a different office in alaska. maybe she was going to run for alaska senate. for a while it sounded like she was going to make her re-election announcement. that she was going to stand for another term as alaska governor. then the speech took a sudden turn, and she announced she wouldn't run for another term as governor. then she said not only was she not running for another term as governor, she was quitting right then, that day, good-bye. it was very hard to figure out. it was hard to follow her logic. it was hard to follow the plot. we now know based on the fact that she never went back to work again, we know that what she meant when she said this, what she meant was "i quit." >> it may be tempting and more comfortable to just kind of keep your head down and plod along and appease those who are demanding, hey, just sit down and shut up, but that's a worthless, easy path out, a quitter's way out. i think a problem in our country today is apathy. it would be apathetic to just hunker down and go with the
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flow. we're fishermen, we know that only dead fish go with the flow. >> the dead fish thing and the quitters -- what she meant, we now know, was i am quitting today, my job as governor. within a few months, she had a new job. the former governor was on the air with her new reality show. incidentally, made by the same people who made "the apprentice." "sarah palin's alaska" ran for a grand total of nine episodes before it got canceled. governor pailen did a rebranded segment called "real american stories with sarah palin," on fox newschannel. that recurring segment also got canceled. then just her regular contract as a fox news contributor also got canceled. eventually she land wanted at the sportsman channel hosting a show called "amazing america." now i will tell you, we spent time on this today. we do not exactly know the fate of sarah palin's "amazing
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america." there's been no announcement that the show has been canceled. but no new episodes have been announced, and it's not scheduled to run anywhere in the sportsman channel lineup. it's fun to look around on that channel to try to find it. i don't know how they're categorizing it. if the sportsman cable tv show exists, and it is called "amazing america," that would put it up in the listings next to "arrow affliction" and "adventure bow hunter." it's an alphabetical listing. if it's listed as "sarah palin's amazing america," she's going to be way down further in the listings next to "sheep shape," a tv show about shooting sheep. i share governor palin's affection but had no idea that shooting sheep was so dangerous. having watched clips, i can tell you it is thrilling. seriously, the sheep thing can
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be super scary. that said, "sheep shape" is still on. "sarah palin's amazing america," i cannot tell. governor palin's shot, as it were, at the white house did not c condole in her to stay in public office. reading her resignation speech as alaska governor, going back and reading it again, the "dead fish" speech, it's fine, in it its own terms it's fun. she makes it clear if you read between the crossing lines that if she hadn't been picked as john mccain's running mate, had she not been in the national campaign as a vice presidential candidate in 2008, she probably would have been finished her term as governor, she may have run again. that time in the national spotlight with john mccain competing for the vice presidency, that is what led her to quit public service. instead, try her luck at various potential tv careers. now that we're a few years out from her starting to start that
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part of her life, we know that none of those seem to have stuck. in terms of her continuing role in politics now, i think it would be a stretch to call it even tertiary in this current campaign. she did do an event with donald trump at the outset of the primaries in january. she endorsed him in iowa. that endorsement was honestly little odd. it did not seem to bring out the best in either of them. we had been advised they would do events together. we thought she would be a trump surrogate. the breitbart folks including the campaign ceo have been huge boosters of the super. steve bannon once made a movie about how great sarah palin is. it was called "undefeated," not meant to be an ironic title. it's just deeper than anyone can understand about how she's undefeated. it just -- in the end despite the enthusiasm for a palin/trump match-up, it didn't work out for her to be a part of the trump campaign. palin and trump did not go on to
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do joint appearances. she did not go on to do really anything for the campaign after that initial endorsement announcement that got so weird. when it came time for the republican national convention this past summer, donald trump had a very transparently awkward explanation for why governor palin would not be appearing at the convention for him even though everyone from scott baio to all of his children would be. >> i noticed that sarah palin wasn't on the list. did she not ask for a speaking role? will. >> no, she -- on she was asked, it was difficult because wherever she is. we love sarah. little difficult because -- it's a long ways away. but sarah will always be with us, and sarah's involved. >> sarah will always be with us. alaska is very far from cleveland, particularly if you walk. it's not like alaska to ohio is an insurmountable physical
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barrier to someone participating in -- other people came from alaska for the -- trump almost made it sounds like she was dead, right? she will always be with us. she's fine. she was just not put on stage or welcomed to that convention. in fact, we haven't seen anything from governor palin in conjunction with the trump campaign until two nights ago at the last republican debate when sarah palin was brought to the event by the trump campaign, brought to the debate. she was used as a surrogate in the spin room for donald trump after the debate for about three minutes before she took off. but even that brief return of -- now reality tv personality, former governor sarah palin, it's interesting -- and it's potentially important because that coincided with the trump campaign on wednesday night also debuting what might be their own version of a tv channel. you've heard about them doing this on debate night, right? 30 minutes before the debate and 90s after the debate, they ran a facebook video stream featuring
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trump campaign staffers and surrogates. this is the second time they've done a facebook video stream for the trump campaign. the first one was just before the second debate when they used that same medium to broadcast trump's weird press conference with women who had made accusations against bill clinton in the past. that was the first time they did a facebook live thing. the second time they did it was after -- before and after this week's debate. this one was set up not exactly to be a press conference. it was more like just fake news coverage of donald trump's debate performance and the fake news coverage by the trump campaign was interspersed with fake ads. not like -- like joke ads that were advertising fake stuff. it was just they weren't ads for anything other than donald trump. in between their fake news coverage, they ran ads for trump. they ran requests for donations in particular. and i know by now you have heard that donald trump did this facebook live video thing in conjunction with the debate, and lots of people have been talking
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about it. there's trump tv, funny jokes about it looking like a mix of qvc and authoritarian state television from somewhere you've never visited. i know you've heard all that. what you may not have heard is that this trump tv thing they did at the debate, 30 minutes before, 90 minutes after, it was a huge success. serious, serious. they say that they had millions tune in. it's unverifiable from an outside perspective. we saw the numbers of people simultaneously watching at any one time, the counter on line. it seems plausible that over the course of the two hours of coverage they did get millions to tune in. what we have official numbers on, though, is another metric which is maybe even more important if this is the sort of first draft of what's going to happen next. and what we've got official numbers on is money. the amount of money they raised from those ads asking for donations from people who tuned in to watch the trump campaign's
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fake news show that night on line. these are real numbers because they reported them to the fcc. they said they raised $9 billion in that one night. what? that's a top of money. they raised $9 million over the course two of online segments, 30 minutes before the debate and 90 minutes after. and that is freaking great news for them. i mean, that is a ton of money. it's great news at two levels. $9 million is $9 million for running these last couple of weeks of the campaign. but it's also proof of concept for them. if donald trump does in fact lose the election and he decides he wants to follow the sarah palin path, hey, sarah palin, what were you doing back at this third debate when we'd only see you once this whole time on the campaign trail? if he decides that her path is the one he wants to follow, that maybe he can do it better than she has, if he wants to follow her path, not -- not taking a run like this and turning it into a -- more public service,
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but instead turninging it into ditching the idea of public service and instead just getting on tv, then raising $9 million in two hours of this terrible version of their emoji-strewn online cable access stream where the audio and video didn't link up, $9 million will make a great pitch for them doing more professional tv that might try to monetize donald trump's political support. in his next act after this election. that pitch will be bolstered by the true blue evidence that donald trump does attract viewership as a political figure. we got in the final viewing numbers for wednesday's debate. 72 million people. the combination of him and hillary clinton is a very popular thing on tv. that's a really, really, really large number for a third presidential debate. i mean, the most-watched presidential debate in history was the first clinton/trump debate this year. second most-watched presidential debate in history was 1980. carter/reagan. they only had one debate that year.
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the third most-watched debate ever was this one we had on wednesday night. two of the three most-watched debates in history were clinton/trump. they're blowing the roof off. so if you're looking at numbers like that and you're also looking at the polls now, you got to think that like the sportsman channel is super psyched. they're imagining like donald trump in a duck blind might be coming soon, and. it's going to be mammoth. if he does want this to be a prelude to a new tv career, today's news was good news for donald trump. if, however, he wants this campaign to be the lead up to not a tv career but a public service career, today's news was basically as bad as it could be. some of that we've got exclusively here next. look at all these purchases you made with your airline credit card. hold on...you only got double miles on stuff you bought from that airline?
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more than four million people have voted in the presidential races. early sflovoting in 34 states underway. long voting lines in north carolina, a good news/bad news thing. it is inspiring, it's exciting to see people so psyched to vote. see these big, long lines. it's high voter enthusiasm, high voter determination. also, however, it indicates a shortage of polling locations for the first week of early voting. it's exciting that the lines are long, and it's also not necessarily good that the lines are so long. they ought to make it easier for people to vote. this week we saw long lines of people -- look at that -- turning out in the heat to cast ballots for the first week of early voting in georgia. we do now have early voting data from the more than four million votes that have already been cast around the country. and you don't open up those ballots. we can't tell you who the votes are literally.
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based on party registration and modeling data, the basic consensus among everybody looking at the four million early votes cast thus far is that it's good news for the democrats. the clinton campaign "has a greater percentage of banked votes," meaning votes already cast, "than president obama did at this point four years ago." looking at the swing states for which we've got early voting data already, clinton, that means, has a higher proportion of the votes that have been cast already than obama did at this point in the race in 2012. you might remember that obama won the race in 2012 by kind of a lot. so that's good news for the clinton campaign. it's terrible news for donald trump. there's no way to undo that. those votes are banked, they are sunk, they are cast. nothing else in the campaign can happen that happen can affect the advantage that hillary clinton has already apparently racked up at a faster clip than obama banked votes against romney in 2012. that's one piece of bad news for the trump campaign. no matter what they've done, they're already losing.
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there's already a mysterious -- there's also a mysterious piece of bad news for them. this i -- i don't races th-- i don't raise this to peak your interest. i don't know what's going on. if you know, send it to rachel.com, please, thank you. the mysterious news out of the trump campaign the last 24 hours is that their national political director has quit. nobody seems to know why. his name's jim murphy. i don't know very much about him as a political operative. he says he is not technically resigning from the trump campaign, but he's taking "a step back" from the campaign for what he describes as personal reasons. he's not elaborating. honestly if they are personal, they're none of our business. but it is a big deal for a presidential campaign to lose its national political director 18 days before the election. what, right -- this is a big deal. this is being treated like a sidebar human interest, you
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know, human relations story for the trump campaign. that's a big deal. flashing red lights. bells and whistles. this is not a normal thing. the "washington post" put it this way, "for another campaign, this would be a crisis. for this campaign, it's a crisis somewhere toward the middle of a long line of crises. it's the guy who lost a finger walking into an emergency room filled with people who have lost both legs and arms." it's a problem and a big one, but it's not their worst problem. but seriously, that news, the trump campaign losing its national political director 2.5 weeks before the election, that news arrives on the same day that we have just learned that the clinton campaign has moved five full-time staffers into the now-tossup swing state of utah. that doesn't make the loss of trump's preliminary director any worse of a -- political director any worse of a story, but that's a terrible story of competing narratives. trump loses national political
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director, and no one notices. clinton staffs up in utah because she thinks she can win there. that is a bad newsday for the trump campaign. in addition, we have been monitoring this ongoing, interesting, unprecedented saga of newspaper endorsements for this year's campaign. i want to again reiterate our request to you, our fair viewers. if you know of a daily newspaper endorsement for donald trump in the general election, if you know of one anywhere in the country, please send it to rachel.com. so far we have only been able to find three trump endorsements from three obscure, little newspapers. one in santa barbara, california, one in st. joseph, missouri, and one in waxahachie, texas. meanwhile, hillary clinton has locked up just about every other newspaper endorsement in the country including the ones from republican papers. now newspapers and magazines are having to get creative in order to try to stand out among the crowd as they endorse hillary clinton and come out against donald trump. today, did you see this, "the
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new york daily news" did not just reiterate their endorsement of hillary clinton, they decided to run a 14-chapter-long multithousa multithousand-word indictment of donald trump. i brought the paper so you can grasp this. i want you to see all of the pages it takes up. it's on the front here, "bury trump in a landslide." and all of these other pages. look, this is where they start. they basically -- wait, there's more. wait -- no, wait, there's more. they basically unload everything they've ever thought or reported against donald trump. they say that they hope that this opus from them will be his political obituary. i've never seen ni-- never seen anything like this. they're calling for a landslide destruction of him. now i can also report exclusively that on monday "the
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new yorker" magazine will publish their own rather epic statement of condemnation of donald trump and support for hillary clinton. the newsy, non-feature part of "the new yorker" magazine is called "talk of the town." it consists of four or five pieces on news and politics and culture and art. in the edition of "the new yorker" on monday, this is the cover of it we can show you, they have given over the entire section of "the talk of the town" to one big, long article on their feelings about trump and their feelings about clinton. they denounce trump with all of the fervor that almost every other publication in the country has now. i think what sets apart what "the new yorker's" about to do is the thoroughness and thoughtfulness with which they sing hillary clinton's praises. i'm going to quote again, we've got that exclusively. you can't get it until monday. here's a sneak preview, "on november 8th, barring some
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astonishment, the people of the united states will after 240 years send a woman to the white house. the election will be noted for its immense historical important and be greated with indescribable relief. it will be especially gratifying to have a woman as commander in chief after such a sexist and racist campaign. on ever issue of consequence including economic policy, the environment, and foreign affairs, hillary clinton is a distinctly capable candidate -- experienced, serious, schooled, resilient. hillary clinton's vision and temperament are the opposite of her opponent's. her story is about walking through flames and emerging changed, warier, and more determined. we wish that clinton faced a worth opponent. she deserves a less sullied, more substantive win. electing a female president means imagining new possibilities that a woman might survive a gauntlet of derision to hold power with confidence, without apology, to enlarge our notions of authority and hasten an age when a female president will no longer be exceptional.
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that is they willing possibility for all americans. -- a thrilling possibility for all americans." again, that's "the new yorker" which will publish on monday. we've got that exclusively tonight. so donald trump i think -- credit where credit's due -- i think he had a good trump tv day. he had a good trump tv day. a lot of people gave him money when they watched his web stream on debate night. also a lot of people watched the debate. but each though it was a good trump tv day, it was a terrible, terrible day in terms of his chances at the presidency. down to terrible local news in a new jersey courtroom today. if donald trump somehow defies the towering odds and does end up getting elected president on november 8th, the additional bad news he got, bad news about even that prospect of him winning is the guy in charge of staffing his administration, his transition chief, has been told that he's due to testify just after the election in the criminal trial of two of his top
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appointees. and he was explicitly named in open court as complicit for the crime in which they are on trial. even if donald trump wins, today is still bad news for him because it's probably going to be a big distraction, right, for his guy who's supposed to be in charge of staffing up your deputy of under secretary of pencils and whatnot. that and more ahead.
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last night. the al smith dinner not technically part of the political contest between trump and clinton. it's actually supposed to be kind of a nice thing. a memento detente, levity as the two candidates gibe each other and themselves in this room of incredibly rich people in penguin suits. even that didn't go well for trump. the room reacted poorly to a number of the shots he took at hillary clinton. he ended up getting heckled and jeered and booed as he finished up his remarks. it didn't seem like it went all terribly for trump last night, though. last night on this show we had minnesota senator al franken, "saturday night live" veteran al franken here. he complimented mr. trump in particular for one of trump's jokes that involved mr. trump talking about his wife. and senator franken is a guy who knows these things. this is what senator franken said was donald trump's best joke last height. >> you know, the president told me to stop whining, but i really have to say the media is even
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more biased this year than ever before. ever. you want the proof? michelle obama gives a speech, and everyone loves it. it's fantastic. they think she's absolutely great. my wife melania gives the exact same speech. and people get on her case. and i don't get it. i don't know why. and it wasn't her fault. stand up, melania, come on. she took a lot of abuse. oh, i'm in trouble when i go home tonight. she didn't know about that one. aim okay? -- am i okay?
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is it okay? cardinal, please speak to her. >> overall, it was a bad night for donald trump, but the al smith dinner, he did get booed and heckled, but that joke, that joke about his wife's plagiarism in her republican convention speech, that one really did go over great in the room. al franken thought it was a great joke, went over great in the room, everybody laughed. turns out that joke appears to itself to be plagiarized. this comic from r.j. madsen done for "roll call," the capitol hill newspaper. this summer michelle obama gives a speech and everybody loves it. but melania gives a speech word for word and everybody hates it. why the double standard? it's pretty much the exact same joke that trump told last night about plagiarism. i told you that donald trump was having a really bad day. i told you. we've got the details on this very, very bad news today ♪
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we've got the details on this very, very bad news today for the would-be donald trump campaign presidential transition chief. but honestly i've got to tell you we feel like we're also waiting on news tonight from the vice president's office. and it's because of this. at a campaign event in wilkes-barre, this afternoon, vice president joe biden had this to say about donald trump when he was talking about the "access hollywood" tape. watch this. >> he said because i'm famous,
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because i'm a star, because i'm a billionaire, i can do things other people can't. what a disgusting assertion for anyone to make. the press always asked me don't i wish i were debating him. no, i wish during high school i could take him behind the gym. that's what i wish. >> i wish we were in high school and i could take him behind the gym. apology presumably coming from the vice president's office in three, two -- we'll be right back.
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inauguration day the candidate who wins will have to go into overdrive in the transition process. they'll work with president obama's outgoing administration, they'll stock up the new administration, pick up everything from cabinet secretaries to the color of the new drapes in the oval office. if donald trump is the one who wins the election two weeks from tuesday, there's a problem with the person he's put in charge of what would be his transition process. >> governor, can you say with certainty that someone else didn't on your staff or in your administration act on your behalf to order those lane closures for political retribution? >> i have absolutely no reason to believe that, angie, and i've made it very clear to everybody on my senior staff that, if anyone had any knowledge about this, that they needed to come forward to me and tell me about it and they've all assured me that they don't. oh, yeah, i've spoken to mr. steppian who is in charge of the
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campaign and he's assured me of the same thing. i've spoken to everybody on my staff and asked the campaign manager if they knew anything more about this that we didn't already know and they told me no. >> told me no. i've spoke with everybody on my senior staff and my campaign manager steppian and nobody knows anything. new jersey governor chris christie fending off reporters' questions in the middle of what's become known as the bridgegate scandal, the scandal for which three of his top staffers were hit with felony criminal charges. today at the trial for two of those, a longtime chris christie adviser testified that he told governor christie before that press conference that, in fact, his stop staff did know about what was happening on that bridge. he says he told governor christie that his deputy chief of staff and his campaign manager both knew about it. and he says he told christie that right before christie told the public that they didn't know anything about it. his deputy chief of staff also
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testified herself today. she says before she sent that e-mail that said time for some traffic problems in fort lee, before she sent that e-mail she testified she got the okay to do so from governor christie himself. personally and directly. she ran it by him. she also testified that she is personally physically afraid of governor christie. she broke down in tears on the stand while she recounted him swearing at her and throwing stuff at her, and that's next. i love my shop,
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and i moved out of the way. he, meaning the bottle, hit my arm. the attorney, a big tough guy, right? kelly crying, yeah. >> there are no cameras in the courtroom, so we count on excellent reporters to read us out on what happened. dude, what happened here? joining us now is andrea bernstein for wnyc news. she was there. thank you for being here. >> sure. >> i know throwing the water bottle thing is essential here. what's up with throwing the water bottle? >> it was meant to show that she was afraid of christie. >> this is deputy chief of staff. >> this is deputy chief of staff and it was at this event where she organized some businesses and commissioners and she was briefing him beforehand. governor, i think you should welcome everybody, then let the commissioners talk to the businessmen who have just lost everything again for the second time. and he said, what do you think i am, an f'ing gameshow host, according to testimony and threw the bottle. she was just sobbing throughout this. she was mostly composed.
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there were times when she choked up during her testimony. but she was just crying right to the jury when she said this. >> she also testified that before she sent what is the most famous piece of evidence in this scandal, time for some traffic problems in fort lee, that e-mail. she said she ran it by governor christie. >> she did. she said it was a very poor choice of words. that she had been parroting david wildstein who was the master mind in all this, he had raised the idea that he wanted to do a study and it was going to cause big traffic jams and could she tell the governor. she said she was afraid not to. that if there was a problem, it would be blamed on her. she went to the governor that day and said that david wildstein wanted to do a study in fort lee and it was going to cause traffic jams and he said, okay, fine. what's our relationship with the mayor? and she said she was embarrassed because she actually didn't know what the relationship at that
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time was with the mayor of fort lee. >> so what this means in terms of sort of culpability on who knew what when is that christie knew ahead of time that there were going to be traffic problems in fort lee. >> correct. >> that they were man made traffic problems. >> which is contra to everything he said. >> in addition, another christie staffer or top ally of governor christie testified today that before christie went out and told reporters in december, i've checked with all my senior staff on the governor's side and i checked my campaign manager, nobody knew anything about this. he says that he told governor christie right before that, actually senior staff -- >> minutes before it. >> minutes before it. >> minutes before the press conference when governor christie went out and said that, four minutes before that, he went out and said that there were e-mails that had his staffers name on it including bill steppian who is now national field director for donald trump but his testimony was eclipsed by the testimony of bridget kelly who has flipped the narrative.
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she said, i was the one without the power here. i was told this wasn't a retaliatory scheme. they put me in the position of sending emails and carrying it out, but i didn't know what was going on. and it was the big guys, according to her testimony, the governor, his chief of staff, and his campaign manager who were ordering retaliation. and she described in detail a retaliatory scream against another mayor, the mayor of jersey city, in which the governor allegedly said he doesn't -- he's not entitled to an effing meeting. >> which i'm sure she was shocked by, cursing -- i'm not shocked by the cursing. i am shocked by the throwing. >> if it's true, not only were the governor's top aides involved, but they have participated in a big cover-up of what happened. >> yeah. and he lied about it directly. oh, andrea bernstein, wnyc news,
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okay. you're one of those families that has a big, extended family, and you do a big extended family reunion every year, and it's always a bit nuts. it's not chaos, but it's not mayberry either. it's the managed chaos of a big family reunion. there's a big tug-of-war every year, a treasure hunt for the kids, somebody organizes a pie-eating contest, which is always a mess, everybody gets family reunion tee shirts, but then there's one person that doesn't show up before, and it gets a little weird with the new cousin, for example. here's what's going on with the tee shirts and pie-eating contest and decides he's going to start selling people stuff, cheesy pyramid scheme stuff like grow-well or whatever.
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and everybody thinks that's tacky, you know, your family reunion, kind of brush him off. but then he starts swearing at the kids who are doing the treasure hunt, calling the kids insulting nicknames, not in a cute way but a mean way. and then the tug-of-war starts, and he doesn't take a start, and he comes up and cut the rope. he thinks that's hilarious. he's starting to change the whole vibe of the whole thing. but you've been doing this for years and you think one creepy cousin can't stop this whole event, something always goes a little weird. sometimes people get drunk, sometimes people have family fights. it's not like you can't take a
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little bad behavior in our rambunctious family reunion every year, but then it keeps taking darker turns, because then the guy makes a pass at somebody's wife, gets called out on it, laughs it off and says he was joking. then he goes up to another woman and grabs her, tries to kiss her, and it's getting to the point where nobody knows what to do with this guy, and he says what are you going to do, call the cops on me? this is a family reunion. this is family. you can't call the cops on me. this whole family has hated me and rejected me. you're biased against me, and everybody feels bad for a second. family reunion, you wonder if somehow you're not giving him a fair shake because you're not used to this guy. but then you know what? he pulls out a weapon. in this story he pulls out a blender for your fruits and vegetables family, so yeah, you have to call the cops. and that's my best explanation for what happened this week in the presidential campaign when donald trump said he refused to say if he would accept the results of this year's
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presidential election when he said on election night, quote, i'll just keep you in suspense. the democratic process of choosing our leaders in this family is not a family reunion, it's more contentious than that. and sometimes it does feel more like a riot than a tug-of-war. but we conduct ourselves with an understanding that we part of an ongoing process that preceded us and will continue much like this when we're gone. we can handle bad behavior. we can handle somebody peeing in the proverbial punch bowl one year. but what we cannot handle is someone killing what we have built, we cannot incorporate someone in this process who wants to end this process, to make this event something that might never happen again because who's going to bring their kids and families and old folks and their real problem-solving needs into something that is dangerous or where somebody's going to end up in the hospital or in jail by the end of it. when you jeopardize this event from ever happening again, we can all feel good about the fact that you are never, ever getting
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invited back again, extended family or not. that's my understanding, and that does it for us tonight. "msnbc live" is next. good morning, i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. here's what's happening now -- 17 days to go. hillary clinton hones in on battleground states. donald trump gets ready to kick off the final phase of his campaign. first, his message to the white house. >> we have a bunch of babies running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers, they're babies. also, what would the first 100 days of a trump presidency look like? today's the day we'll find out. bombshell testimony in new jersey governor chris christie's bridgegate trial.
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