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can all feel good about the fact that you are never, ever getting invited back again, extended family or not. that's my understanding, and that does it for us tonight. "msnbc live" is next. good morning, i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. here's what's happening now -- 17 days to go. hillary clinton hones in on battleground states. donald trump gets ready to kick off the final phase of his campaign. first, his message to the white house. >> we have a bunch of babies running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers, they're babies. also, what would the first 100 days of a trump presidency look like? today's the day we'll find out. bombshell testimony in new jersey governor chris christie's bridgegate trial.
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at this hour, local and federal officials are investigating after an envelope containing a white substance was delivered to the clinton campaign headquarters in new york last night. more in a moment. clinton was in cleveland for a rally at the time of the incident. she met with black lives matter activists before hitting the stage and slamming trump for saying he will only accept the outcome of the election if he wins. >> by doing that, he is threatening our democracy. we know in our country the difference between leadership and dictatorship, right? i was in countries where people jailed their political opponents or execute them, exiled them or invalidate election its they didn't win. -- elections if they don't win. that can never be allowed to happen here. >> with 17 days until election day, the clinton campaign will focus their get out the vote efforts in two battleground
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states today. clinton and her running mate tim kaine will hold two stops in port clinton. trump expected to outline a speech on his first 100 days in office. his campaign says the location was chosen for its symbolism and will kick off his closing arguments to voters. the speech will be closed to the public. meanwhile, trump is firing back at president obama and the first lady, both of whom have criticized him for comments about the election process in recent days. here's trump at a rally in north carolina yesterday. >> we have a bunch of babies running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers, they're babies, we have a president, all he wants to do is campaign, his wife, all she wants to do is campaign. and i see how much his wife likes hillary. wasn't she the one that originally started the statement
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if you can't take care of your home, right? you can't take care of the white house or the country. i don't nature that. casey hunt is in white plains for us. good morning. as hillary clinton heads to pennsylvania we're hearing preliminary tests that the white powdery substance delivered to headquarters friday turned out to be non-harmful. what's been the reaction? >> reporter: hey, that's right. the clinton headquarters briefly evacuated last night after a suspicious substance was mailed to hillary clinton's midtown office in new york and eventually taken to the brooklyn office. there were four people, the campaign says, who came into? contact. no one's reported symptoms. everyone was allowed to go home. the campaign office is operating as normal. so we're about to kick off a pretty long day on the campaign trail with secretary clinton really kind of hitting that final stretch here. she's going to be in pittsburgh
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and then in pennsylvania. the campaign feeling pretty good about where things stand, both polling and a lot of the early voting information coming in. the clinton campaign feels really bodes well for them, here's what hillary clinton had to say about that on the campaign trail last night in cleveland. >> whether or not you support me or you support my opponent, together we must support american democracy and the country that has given every one of us so many opportunities. [ cheers ] the best way to do that, my friends, is to turn out and vote. [ applause ] >> reporter: the clinton campaign strategy is to go to states where early voting is starting to get underway. she's going to be in north carolina on sunday, as well. of course, donald trump actually acknowledging on the campaign trail yesterday using the words
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"if i lose," which is kind of new from him. at the same time, expecting to get a major speech from him in gettysburg. we'll see how the clinton campaign responds to that. dara? >> casey hunt, thank you very much for that report. well, let's bring in jane timm and jonathan allen, contributor to "roll call." we have a lot to talk about. jane, i'm going to start with you. yesterday you just updated your list of trump's partnership flops and cited 132 distinct major shifts on 22 major issues. so what more can you tell us about trump's speech in gettysburg today? >> you know, i'd say we might see new stances for that list. the campaign has said that the speech today will be the kickoff for the final pitch to voters in these last 17 days. i think you're likely to see new material in the next 17 days. this is pretty late to offer up new material. i'd say the clinton campaign has rolled out every proposal they expect to roll out from our perspective. they know this is just the last few days before people vote. most people are decided.
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the undecided voter is an endangered species. trump seems to be trying to come out with some new material, keep things exciting, maybe divert away from the scandals we've seen. and we may see some new material which -- you know, it's october, we shouldn't be seeing new things. hey, you know, keeping things interesting. >> and jonathan, did the campaign give a reason why it's actually closed to the public today? what's your sense there? >> i haven't seen any reason given, but there's an obvious one, i believe, that the gettysburg national battlefield park there and cemetery within it is a terrible place for a political rally. that that would violate the dec decorum of that venue and potentially have a huge backlash against donald trump were he to do that. certainly he wouldn't want protesters there as he's making the beginning of his final pitch. >> and as we go into these final days, jane, still no reaction from house speaker paul ryan or the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, to trump saying that he's only going to accept
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the results of the election if he wins. what do you think, they're going to keep their heads down until the election is over? >> i think so. the margin of donald trump's loss as he looks like he's likely to lose in the election based on the polls, how big that loss is decides the rest of their future. so if they keep their spots as majority leaders, if their party is able to withstand being completely swept, we see the senate definitely in danger of being lost to republicans, and if donald trump loses bye double digits, i think -- loses by double digits, i think the house could be in danger, as well. this is a big risk for them and not the kind of thing they want. they don't want to compromise the sanctity of elections. we saw reince priebus right in the spin room after the debate saying he'll accept what the elections are despite the candidate said i'll keep you all in spokesperson. >> jonathan, i want to play an emotional clip from the clinton campaign's ad. the final ad featuring the gold star father, kaz ir khan.
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>> my son was kept, he was 27 years old and was a muslim american. i want to ask mr. trump -- would my son have a place in your america? >> this ad is airing in key battleground states including florida, north carolina, and pennsylvania. and jonathan, what do you think the strategy is behind this using it as a closing argument? >> i think there are a few things that work here. number one, mr. khan is a tremendous articulator of values that are held deeply not just by democrats but by many republicans and independents, as well, in terms of american values of inclusion, in terms of american values of military service, speaking for his son there. i think he -- at some levels, a much more sympathetic levels than a candidate who afooers end approving -- appears at the end
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approving the message, hillary clinton. and he reminds voters of donald trump's worst instincts in terms of trump having gone after the khan family, gold star family, after the appearance at the democratic convention and the muslim ban that he had proposed at one point that he later made country or region specific rather than religious specific, but everyone knows was aimed at muslims. this is sort of for hillary clinton the -- khan family has become such a representative touchstone of so many issues that she has with donald trump and the way of articulating that her values match those of many other americans. >> jane, i want to turn to you. just 24 hours after the final debate, we saw the candidates play nice for a few moments during the al smith charity dinner. how do you think the debate set the tone for the next 17 days? >> i'd say that hillary clinton made her closing remarks there in front of that audience. she is by all accounts basically running the clock out on this
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election. she's going to wait and see. she's made it very clear that she is trying to say that we are different than this, this is not the american you want, by highlighting donald trump's most controversial remarks and his changing position. she told people to fact check him as she has in every debate. she said google donald trump and iraq, and. people certainly did. we -- and people certainly did, we saw this spike in alerts. and we saw donald trump try and say this is -- i want a different kind of government. and he made that pitch to people of why he rose which is that he's just a different kind of candidate. and i think that we're going to see those two things play out. clinton standing by her criticism of donald trump and her own views, and donald trump saying we can do different. i am different. vote for me if you want different. >> jane timm, jonathan allen, always great to have you. thank you very much. >> thank you. still haerkahead, the campa invites civil rights leaders to get out the vote. we'll talk to mark marial of the national urban league. an attempt to take mosul back from isis.
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new data on early vogue shows more -- voting shows more women are turning out early than men. 59% in north carolina, 55% in florida where the turnout by party is equal so far. according to the data january lettics firm target smart, democrats are outnumbering republicans in seven of 11 other key battleground states. national civil rights leaders hit the road this weekend on a bus tour aimed to get out the vote. the three-day "our vote matters" touch launched yesterday in 3d, led by leaders including msnbc host and reverend al sharpton.
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it's aimed at getting students and other vulnerable populations to exercise their right to vote. joining subcommittee one of those leaders, mark -- joining me is one of those leaders, mark moriel, president of the national urban league and former mayor of new orleans. you've got the t-shirt, why are you here? >> we're in ohio, on our way to akron, later to canton and back to cleveland on sunday to visit a number of churches. here's what's important in ohio -- early voting has begun. it began on october 12th and runs all the way through november 7th. and ohio is one of those states that has added a voter i.d. requirement. we have to educate voters. while that voter i.d. requirement in my opinion isn't necessary, in fact it is the law. we're encouraging people by bringing this message to them to vote early, make sure you're prepared to vote, and to nur
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encourage a strong turnout in northeastern ohio. >> what is the significance of the location? because you are focusing on northeastern ohio. >> this is a very important, if i would say, urban community in america because you've got all of these communities, cleveland, akron, youngstown, canton, massillon, elyria, all bunched together here in northeastern ohio. i think the significance of it is is that ohio's always been one of the most important states in our national election. we've concentrated on the state in the past. we're here, and we hope that this bus tour is going to continue after sunday to other states. we've got to encourage people that the stakes are high. that they've got to evaluate the candidates' positions on issues, but they've got to vote. we had a great day yesterday. in east cleveland, we were at cuyahoga county community college. today we'll begin with a prayer breakfast, go on to akron, go on to canton, really work to
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encourage voters. so early voting is important here, and that voter i.d. requirement requires people now. here in ohio, there are a number of things people can use. myohiovote.com is a resource for people near ohio. and if they aren't with us here in cleveland, aren't with us in ohio, follow us @naturbanleague on twitter to be part of the bus tour. >> can you tell us about the voting restriction since the last election and how that could change the race? >> so those voter i.d. and voter restrictions and suppression measures that have been put into place are a direct result of the actions of the supreme court in the shelby case. we're saying to voters that in order to protect democracy and your right to vote, it's important who the next president is. we are going work as hard as we can to make sure those restrictions are not a barrier
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to voting. however, those restrictions are unnecessary and were designed with the intentionality we think of suppressing the vote in urban communities and communities of color. we're saying to people, do not be deterred. we have to get out and vote because our vote matters. >> and mark, you said you kicked the tour off yesterday. you're hitting highly populated areas. how has the response been so far? >> you know, it was so enthusiastic yesterday in east cleveland. we had a chance to visit a number of barber shops and beauty salons. we ran into a number of people who have already vote. very few people said they were not going to vote. we ran into one or two people who were not registered. but generally, i think people were very, very excited to see us. and of course, it's -- it's a coalition with the national urban league, the national action network, the national coalition for black civic participation, and a group called show your power. we're working together. we've got a whole lot of support on the ground here in cleveland
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and northeastern hoimpt and the tour is being very -- ohio. and the tour is being very, very well received. >> you mentioned you're dealing with churches possibly today. what else is ahead on the tour the next two days? >> we're going to have a rally in akron and a rally in canton after we begin our prayer breakfast this morning. but in addition to that, we've just been stopping in neighborhoods, knocking on doors. canvassing in places where people may be. we have a plan, and then we have an improvisational jazz in this tour. we'll be i think following the schedule but also looking for opportunities to engage with more voters. and what we did yesterday in east cleveland was just so, so exciting to -- to get a sense that people are paying attention to the issues, they understand the importance of this election, but we have to push people to take advantage of early voting. i'd say to anyone who's listen, if there's early voting in your state, take advantage of it. it reduces the stress and also
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the lines on election day. >> mark muriel, we appreciate you being here. thanks for your enthusiasm to get out the vote. appreciate it. >> thank you. good morning. and happening now, in iraq this morning, the united nations is investigating reports that isis fighters executed 284 men and boys in and around mosul. this on the sixth day of battle to push isis militants out of that city. let's go to nbc's richard engle in erbil, iraq, with more on the offensive. richard? >> reporter: good morning. today there was an unannounced visit by defense secretary ash carter. he met with the iraqi prime minister, american commanders to get a battlefield update. the advance is still pushing toward the city of mosul. every town that iraqi forces enter, the fighting seems to be getting more and more difficult. there has also been a scare among some u.s. troops. we learned about it today.
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coming up in our next hour. now to nbc's jacob rascon live in cleveland, ohio. good morning to you, jacob. trump's top aides are now saying that he's going to change his tone and lay out a positive roadmap over the next coming days. is that possible when we have only weeks left until election day. >> reporter: they are essentially promising a new trump. it has been a blistering month especially, really in the mud according to people who have been watching campaigns their entire lives. we've never seen an election like this. they're promising a positive vision and roadmap, a change in direction. they say they'll lay out new policy details, things he's never said before, and also a summation of a lot of the other policies we've been talking about over the last few weeks. but he's also beimore reflectiv. in a couple of moments yesterday he talked about win, lose, or draw, and being happy with
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himself. here's one of those moments -- >> i don't know what kind of shape i'll be in, but i'll be happy. at least i will have known, win, lose, or draw, and i'm almost sure if the people come out, we're going to win. but i will be -- [ cheers ] . i will be happy with myself because i always said -- i don't want to think back, if only i did one more rally i would have won north carolina by 500 votes instead of losing it by 200 votes, right? if only i did -- so i never want to look back. i never want to say that about myself. >> so he has three events today. that speech where he's supposed to lay out the positive vision is later this morning. more at 3:00, then one later tonight. he's promising a blistering schedule, as well. three-a-day rallies at some point, even more some days, he said, in this final homestretch. dara? >> jacob, we don't see donald trump and mike pence together much on the campaign trail.
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what can you tell us about today's event in sdpleefld. >> you know, we've been noticing that, as well. he does have more events scheduled with mike pence, but they have been separate most of the last couple of weeks. they do have today, they are together, at least one of those events i believe. and they have others coming up where that will be the case, as well. hillary clinton and tim kaine also campaigning together today. dara? >> jacob rascon, thank you very much. donald trump's refusal to concede the election at the debate is putting him at odds with insiders of both parties. meanwhile, in multiple national polls averaged by real clear politics, hillary clinton leads trump by nearly six points in a four-way match-up. to go over the numbers that matter most, we're joined by the chief polling analyst for politico.com, steve shepherding. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let's stalk with a panel of political insiders whom you've poland from key battleground states. what is their take on trump's refusal to accept the election's outcome if he loses? >> right. it was a big violation of
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political norms, what we saw on wednesday night. four out of five even republican insiders in key battleground states, these are 11 key battleground states, said that he made a mistake by not saying he would honor the results of the election no matter what. and virtually all democrats said that. i think it speaks to the extent -- these are people, a mix of people, some of whom are trump fans, some of whom on the republican side are not. it sort of mirrors where he stands in washington, too, but this is a signal i think that folks are chafing a little bit at this one aspect of his campaign. the sort of questioning of the election results. >> and we're so close with just about two weeks before the election. these insiders that you've polled, what are they generally expecting to happen on election day? >> well, virtually all democrats in these 11 key states, and these aren't necessarily the 11 closest states, they're the 11 states you need to win to capture an electoral college majority. the democrats almost universally
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think hillary clinton will carry their state. as for republicans, we saw at times in september as many as half of republicans say that they thought that donald trump would win. that number's been tailing off in recent weeks, really since the first debate. right now more republicans think hillary clinton will carry their battleground state than donald trump. >> let's talk about that because when we move to the other numbers that you've cleaned from various polls this week, it appears that trump is having trouble even with republicans. so what do you think will happen? >> reporter: that's right. donald trump in two major national polls this week up until the third debate on wednesday night was only at 80% among republican voters. that seems like a lot, but point of fact, you know, barack obama, mitt romney won between 90% and 95% of members in their party on election day. four years ago, mil at 91% of democrats in one, 87% of democrats in another poll. that starts him off in a massive hole. the question is, did he do enough in the third debate to bring the republicans home before he even pivots to try to
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capture swing voters? my instirchgs say no, but we have to wait for more data to find out. >> let's talk about that. if they're not going to go over to hillary's camp and they're probably going independent, where are the republicans going? and will they even get out to vote? >> reporter: the last part is the what down-ballot republicans, people like kelly ayotte in new hampshire, pam toomey in pennsylvania, governors, senators who are republicans, who are watching donald trump fall behind in the polls, that's what they're worried about. they're worried about some of these usually reliable republican voters staying home on election day and then they don't get that vote down the ballot. even if the voters were to turn out and vote for clinton, skip the presidential race, vote for a third-party candidate, they want to get those votes down the ballot. if they stay home altogether, that's a big problem. >> steven, a new poll shows donald trump leading hillary clinton by just two points in georgia. that's a state that's not gone for a democrat since bill clinton in 1992. and you pointed out that trump has 65% of the white vote.
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and that's his core of support. it looks like a huge lead, but why is that not a good sign for him? >> georgia's a state where the vote has been racially polarized in recent elections. mitt romney won almost 80% of white voters. barack obama won more than 90% of black voters in 2012. that's the problem really is that donald trump is trailing mitt romney among white voters. he's only got 65%. hillary clinton has 20% of the white vote, what barack obama won more or less four years ago. really it's helping hillary clinton stay in the game. the fact that we're talking with jae georgia two weeks before the election is a sign of what hillary clinton's path looks like, which is far wider than donald trump's. >> steven shepherd, very interesting look at the numbers. thank you very much for joining me. next, a look at what the first 100 days of a trump presidency could look like. our team of political strategists takes a look. in the next hour, the man who says it's impossible for the
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before you begin an aspirin regimen. dwrump get e gearing up for a major address in gettysburg, pennsylvania. he's expected to preview his first 100 days as president. joining me, rick tyler, msnbc news political analyst, former communications trektor for the campaign, jill watkins, former aide to president george h.w. bush, and sarah flores, former deputy campaign manager for carly fiorina. thank you very much for being here. >> good to be here. >> trump has been focusing his efforts in must-spin pennsylvania. joe, you know about this. and he's trailing clinton in north carolina where clinton also leads. i'm going flip to rick. what can you say -- what do you think he's going to say that's going to change the minds of any of those undecided voters? >> look, it's going to be tough for donald trump. one positive thing that he's
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doing is he's talking about what he would do in his first 100 days. i think that's always good. we want to give people a vision for what your presidency would look like. it's too bad that he wasn't talking about this six months ago and working with -- and when he became the nominee working with the leadership in congress to show people what a trump presidency would be like with a republican congress. so we'll see. i look -- look, it's going to be tough for him. >> and joe, pennsylvania's your state. so if trump stays on message, can he make any headway? >> well, of course the people that are already for him are going to stick with him, i think. in terms of what he's saying, i don't know that he's going to reach any undecideds. he lost a couple of weeks, very important weeks attacking the women who had attack the him. and you just can't buy those weeks back. i think it's going to be pretty hard. >> sarah, what would you say the first 100 days of a trump presidency would look like? >> well, just to echo rick, what should have been doing is working with down-ballot candidates in house and senate
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races and republican leadership to make a cohesive message about what republicans would do in power. i think because he has tried to make this a change election, voters do want change. he could have put together a 100 days that was about obviously the supreme court which is hugely important to conservatives and republicans across the country. but also ending the government corruption and incompetence. when it's the v.a., the irs, you know, all of these reports that we see of wasted money and fraud. he could have put together a comprehensive strategy to take on that and make the change message land. unfortunately now with the debates over, it's hard to think it of how he's going to capture a large enough audience to do that. >> and if we're talking about the republicans, we can talk about arizona. clinton now leads trump by five points there, and the campaign is putting more than $2 million into advertising efforts p. michelle obama campaigned for clinton there this week in phoenix. and we're seeing arizona possibly turning blue, rick, what do you think? >> well, notice -- i don't think
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hillary clinton's traveling there, she's sending surrogates. this is part of expanding the map. the reason she's winning in arizona is, i have to believe it's the hispanic vote. i also think that texas is as close as it is and it should be is because of the large number of hispanics that also live in texas. and so hillary is -- look, she's all upside for her. she's really only needing a handful of electoral toss-up states or electoral states, toss-up states to get enough electoral votes. and if she could be competitive ination or georgia or north carolina, it just closes the door on trump to be able to get the requisite number, 270. >> and i want to stay with that message. i want to play some of what michelle obama said in phoenix and donald trump's reaction to her being on the campaign trail. take a listen. >> so when you hear folks talking about a global conspiracy and saying this election is rigged, understand that they are try ting to get y
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to stay home. they are trying to convince you that your vote doesn't matter. that the outcome has already been determined and you shouldn't bother to make your voice heard. they are trying to take away your hope. >> we have a bunch of babies running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers, they're babies, we have a president, all he wants to do is campaign. his wife, all she wants to do is campaign. and i see how much his wife likes hillary. but wasn't she the one that originally started the statement "if you can't take care of your home," right? "you can't take care of the white house or the country." where's that? i don't hear that. >> that is quite a contrast there. so sarah, which message will resonate more do you think? >> i think at this point the clinton strategy is working here. they're forcing the trump campaign to get off message.
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they're forcing the trump campaign to spend time and money in states they shouldn't have to be defending, and hillary's not even going to the states. on the flip side, the polls on the one hand, i'm seeing thank you very much surrogates touting halloween masks and that halloween masks have been predictive of past elections and that trump is leading in the halloween mask category. i'm not sure that's the right message for 17 days out. >> it's definitely an interesting way to gauge it. i want to talk about ad spending. there's spending for the clinton and trump campaigns. if trump had spent more ad dollars, would it have made a difference? >> you know, what you want is to define yourself and define your opponent. that's why you need money. you need to raise money and spend money so that you can target the places where you have a chance to win with that message of defining yourself and also defining your opponent. and donald trump didn't raise enough money, didn't raise it soon enough, and he hasn't had enough advertising, he's relied on tweets and all the earned media stuff to try to get his name out there and get his
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message across. i think he's going to take a hit from the fact that hillary clinton's advertising's been a lot more effective than his has. >> rick, joe, sarah, don't go anywhere. we'll be back in a few minutes to talk about the future of trump's supporters. up next, they love him, but does he love them back? what happens to donald trump's supporters after the election?
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of course i would accept a clear election result, but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge. >> that was donald trump on thursday, not backing down about refusing to accept the election results. some supporters at the same event weighed in on when he would concede. they also talked about the word of an uprising if trump doesn't win and what they'll do if clinton wins. here's a little of what they had to say. >> doesn't matter. we'll wait -- wait and see. he's going to too the right thing.
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>> the way the dems are trying to spin it is it would be an armed opposition, that's not the case. >> personally accept it? there's no way. >> we won't like it. >> i dislike the woman so much that -- i may go under ground. i don't know. [ laughter ] >> interesting ideas there. joining me gun, joe watkins, rick tyler, and sarah isner flores. rick, there's a new poll where an overwhelming majority of voters, 68%, think the loser of the election should accept the results. 14% say they think the loser should challenge the results. why does trump persist in his talk of contesting this vote? >> look, he did this to himself. the only reason chris wallace asked the question is because he had been undermining the election for the previous couple of weeks. he asked the question. and he was not very clear about it. he came out the next day in a speech, and he joked about it. look, nobody like -- nobody likes it when your candidate loses. the problem is, on the one side as you heard michelle obama say he's trying to depress the vote.
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and that may be true to a certain extent. i actually think the damage is much more prevalent on the republican side. if trump supporters actually believe he's going to side. if trump supporters think he is going to lose, which is likely, they are less likely to go out and vote, because they will think, you know, it's rigged and it's going to be rigged and i don't want to vote for anybody else, and that is going to hurt marco rubio and i am confident we will lose close races because trump undermine the integrity of the election. >> it's a double hit for trump's voters depressing the vote and energizing the democratic base, so i agree on the close races
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it's hard to think of a close message in the last couple few weeks. >> 46% say it's very likely there is widespread voter fraud, that they still believe this. but voter fraud was practically nonexistence, about 31 incidents out of 1 billion votes casts. joe, if you could weigh in, why do these beliefs exist? >> it's a little bit of sour grapes, and what we hope is they will be bigger than their own personal interest, and it hurts our country that if people tout the notion that the election is rigged and it hurts the integrity of the system and we don't want to undermine its integrity and that hurts all of
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us. >> this was on hardball and this is how he described trump supporters. >> his demographic are people who are alienated and they feel left behind by the economy, and donald trump has a name for such people, losers. these are not people that he would socialize with. he doesn't go into their kitchens and ask what problems are. >> and trump describes it as a movement, and if he loses, a poll shows 38% would follow him, and what do you think it would look like. >> pwraeut bart, they are extraable people, and there would be a lucrative proposition or organization to be had. people made millions of dollars being anti-hillary, and imagine an anti-hillary presidency, and
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i think they could start another media group, and be a factor in the republican party, and the party is going to have a big brawl after the election to tpeulg out what it stands for and who is it and people will be pointing pictures to decide why trump lost or how he got the nomination in the first place. >> rick tyler, joe watkins, sarah, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. on day 21 of the bridge gate trial, game changing testimony, and tammy leitner joins me for the latest. >> let's keep in mind the george washington bridge is the busiest in the world and four lanes were shut down and causing a nightmare, and on friday a top assistant to chris christie dropped literally a bombshell, testifying the governor knew what was going on despite his
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repeated denials. for three years bridget kelly has said nothing until now, and the former deputy chief to chris christie took the stand and testified that she told her former boss about the lane closures one month before it happened and he was fine with it, and a direct difference. >> kelly told a packed courtroom that a senior official in the port authority was the mastermind. he is now the government's key witness. kelly and codefendant, bill bough reasony, plead not guilty to nine felony counts. she also testified governor christie was aware of the
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infamous e-mail that said time for traffic problems in ft. lee, and it was a poor choice of words, and she insisted the closers were not meant for retribution. christie previously called kelly a rogue and a liar. >> all this does is present the truth as bridget kelly knows it. >> and this photo was telling christie about the closures, and the three laughed about it. christie continues to say he knew nothing about it, and he is now caught in a scandal he may never recover from. now defense attorneys painted kelly as a low-level employee, and not a senior in
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christie's circle, as the government says. >> thank you so much for that report. very eye opening there. defense attorneys -- that's going to do it for me this hour. thank you so much for watching. ayman mohyeldin takes over at the top of the hour, and he will talk with an election lawyer who will give us a reality check about trump's claims. all finished. umm... you wouldn't want your painter to quit part way. i think you missed a spot. so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. painter: you want this color over the whole house?
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first 100 days in politics when he delivers a major policy speech, and then meanwhile trump is comparing what he thinks will happen on election day to the historic brexit vote in the united kingdom a few months ago, and here's what he told folks at a rally yesterday. >> it's a rigged system. don't ever forget it, and that's why you have to get out and vote and you have to watch because this system is totally rigged. you must get out to vote. we will win, we will shock the world, and this is going to be brexit plus -- [ cheering ] brexit plus. a lot of people know it. they say we can't poll this thing. >> and a day after trading rb

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