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about trump's vow to sue the women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. here is kellyanne conway this morning. >> is that a way to reset the last 16 days of this campaign? >> it's a way to -- it's a way to defend himself and remind everybody what he has said many times, none of this is true, that's fabrications, they're lies. >> why not sue them now? why wait until after the election? >> we're busy winning the presidency. we're a little bit busy over here doing that. but he's just i think putting people on notice that they just -- they can't just falsely accuse him. >> trump campaigns in florida today as does tim kaine, president obama heads to nevada, while hillary clinton focuses on the other key state of north carolina. her campaign manager is this morning responding to the latest wound of wikileaks hacked e-mails. nbc has not authenticated any of the e-mails. listen to this. >> this is the discussion that

russians want us to have. they stole this information. they're leaking. i can't even verify any of the information that you have there. we simply don't have enough time as a campaign. >> i promise you, if these were not true, you would tell us. >> we are trying to go through some of them as we can. but we don't have time go through them all. let's get to kristin welker who is joining me from north carolina where hillary clinton will hold a rally. good to see you. thanks. as you know, hillary clinton maintains this double digit lead in the national polls. is there a sense that the campai thinks they have wrapped up this election? >> reporter: well, no, not yet. they are certainly feeling emboldened by polls like the one that you mentioned. secretary clinton in that latest abc news poll enjoying a 12-point lead nationally. if you look at the cbs ba cbs battleground tracking poll, she's up in florida. that doesn't mean they think they have this wrapped up. the strategy on the part of the

clinton campaign is not just to do well but to run up the score to try to blunt any talk of a rigged election. that's what donald trump has been talking about. in terms of the state of play here in north carolina, secretary clinton does have a narrow lead. early voting though is under way. according to our latest analysis, there are more republican affiliated voters who have turned out so far. they can't take this state or any other state for granted. tim kaine was asked about this today as well as her campaign manager robby mook. listen to what they had to say. >> if you look at our schedules for the next 17 days, you will know where he not taking anything for granted. it has been a season of surprises. we like what we see now. we like the early voting activity and the absentee ballot requests coming in in other states. we are not taking anything for granted. >> there's a special opportunity that popped up late in arizona where donald trump's divisive rhetoric about latinos, his shameful remark about senator

john mccain and pows put that state into play. it's going to be razor thin. it's an uphill climb. we have to stay focused on these other states. >> reporter: and of course, arizona hasn't gone for a democrat in years. so it's significant that is in play. in terms of secretary clinton's closing argument, she has started to make it. the argument is that she will be a uniter if she's elected to try to unite what is a sharply divided country. alex, also worth mentioning, we're seeing a new strategy unfold. the clinton campaign, the dnc pouring money into those down ballot races. secretary clinton campaigning last night in pennsylvania, talking about that race between toomey and mcginty. they anticipate a similar message here. >> which means, you can interpret it that they are not saying, yeah, we have this election in the bag at all. in fact, secretary clinton said she's superstitious. she's not going to go there.

they are increasingly confident, the fact that they are bringing in discussion about the down ballot races while out on the presidential campaign trail. >> reporter: there's no doubt that they are feeling confident. that is for sure, alex. at the same time, i think there is a concern when i talk to campaign officials that democrats might become complacent because they will look at these polls and think they don't need to turn out in force. their message is to democrats, turn out. but they are trying still win over those independent and those undecided voters. again, alex, the focus not just on winning but really trying to get a big win to take away any argument that donald trump might have that there is something rigged with this election process. they think that's going to be critical, because if secretary clinton does win on november 8, on november 9 she's going to want to start the process of bridging some of the sharp divides. >> thank you very much, kristin welker, we appreciate that. let's bring in hallie jackson covering the trump campaign. she's here in studio with us. she just put her phone down

because she's always getting the latest. >> it wasn't actual texting. it was a snapchat. >> i was trying to give it to you. let's talk about kellyanne conway. she was expanding on trump's idea when he talked about term limits. let's take a listen. >> the proposal would bar somebody like mike pence from serving more than six years. it sounds like the kind of person who should be in congress. >> mike pence would agree with donald trump on there. when you are there too long, you need that fresh blood and new perspective. i wish there were more members like mike pence. if there were, we wouldn't need to have the conversation. >> overall, what are we hearing from the campaign on this? >> drain the swamp has become donald trump's new rallying cry. he want to get in there and shake up washington. you heard them talk about hillary clinton. this is donald trump's closing argument, one he began to lay out yesterday in gettysburg and we will see for the next two weeks and change. the question is, as you heard a little in that chuck todd sound

with kellyanne conway, it's mixed messaging. he will give a 42-minute speech that's supposed to lay out his closing argument on his first 100 days and in the same speech, he will threaten his accusers with lawsuits. you heard his campaign manager talk about sort of the need to stay focused or the idea around that. when we talk about -- get to his message of the closing argument draining the swamp. what does that mean? what does it mean to root out corruption in washington. i want you to listen to this sound bite from this morning. >> you know what? we don't have that. what i am going to talk -- we talk about draining the swamp. he has his scripted te eed teler speeches. does he go off? >> yes. >> do you get a sense they wish he would stay on message? does going off script help him with the folks that support him? >> i think it's more the latter than the former. what we see -- he has been doing prompter speeches for a couple

of months. reading off the teleprompter. he will rif, depends on the crowd and mood and day. if he feels the energy of the crowd, he will rif. he tends to stick with whatever headlines of the day are happening. if whatever is in the news is something he will rif on. sometimes what's in the prompter speech is the controversial news making headline in there intentionally as a means to rally up his base and get his core of support erers fired up. >> everyone early early said the trump supports say we wish the media would stay on the message that he is trying to put out there. how much are his policies making sense? how much is he staying focused on those policies? they give us these other things that we -- that they become the talking point because everybody is talking about them. >> it's a source of frustration for the campaign. one senior aide said, the point that he has been rolling out policies. you heard in the jake tapper interview, congressional term limits. he talked about ethics reform. he is doing these policies to be

strategic about his message. he wants to hit hillary clinton on what he believes is corruption. he wants to get out this idea of draining the swamp and reconfiguring washington and shaking it up. his policy proposals are intended to bolster his political strategy. with time running out, there's an acknowledgement from his campaign this morning acknowledging we are behind, which is significant. >> that's big. >> exactly. they have some work to do if it's possible in the next two weeks. >> hallie jackson, my multi-tasking friends -- i think i stole your sound bite. that's my fault. thank you. let's bring in jeremy peters, reporter for "the new york times" and msnbc reporter. good to see you. we will go to trump's speech yesterday. between vowing to sue his accusers, escalating his fight with congress, draining the swamp, unveiling his multi-pronged plan, what is he doing? is that speaking to his base? they're already on his side, right? >> they are.

i think, alex, this was an attempt to go a little bit broader and sound some messages that are really more appealing to average americans than they are the far right. i mean, you talk about weeding out corruption, draining the swamp, hillary as the guardian of the status quo. these are all really, you know, i guess sound messages that you -- that a candidate can use to position themselves as a reformer. the problem is, donald trump isn't really seen as a reformer. he has this odor of scandal around him, whether it's the women who have accused him of sexual assault and groping, or whether it's the lawsuits against trump university for fraudulent activity. so he has not been able to take advantage of this i will smash the system mantle he claims. >> to that extent, what are the implications of the speech at this point in the election,

especially when he consider the blow back he has gotten from the party in recent weeks. >> what you have seen is an inability for donald trump to get out of his own way. he has this message that as i said appeals to a lot of people as a potential to appeal to a lot of people. what does he do? at the top of the speech, he talks about suing his accusers. that's the headline coming out of it. the campaign has been highly critical of the media for folk using on that. what do they expect? he comes out and talks about suing the women who have accused him of grabbing them and harassing them. he is just -- once again, while he tries to be on message, while his campaign tries to keep him on message, he is unable to. >> it's interesting, when he talks about things like suing people who have said things about him, that's when he gets the loudest cheers, when he is speaking in front of an audience. mike pence, what are the implications of this for him we he to set his sights on

2020? >> it's a good question, because i think it depends on what direction the republican party goes in. that may not be one direction. if mike pence wants to run as the republican centrist leader who comes out of this looking like he can -- he thinks he can rescue the party, i don't know that that's going to fly. because i think there are a lot of people in the party who are keeping a list. they're checking it twice. they are going to look back and see people who are like mike pence who had a chance to say, no, i repudiate what donald trump stands for and didn't do that. so on the one hand, he rules those people out as -- in the republican party. he has lost them. now are those -- are the other half of the party, or third of the party, whatever many who are looking for somebody who is a little bit more hard right, are

they going to be satisfied that mike pence is enough of a team player for them after he has had some pretty public rifts with donald trump? i don't know. i don't think mike pence can have it both ways. >> okay. i'm looking at your article of yesterday when you record on the log cabin republicans' decision not to endorse their party's nominee. what's behind that? >> well, i think it's symbolic of the split that's played out in the republican party more broadly this year. you have people who are willing to hold their nose and say, well, here is -- we have in donald trump a nominee that we may not agree with on everything, but at least he is with us on enough. and there are others who find what donald trump stands for, his behavior to just be so repellant that they can't stomach the idea. so that's playing out at the republican party more broadly and it's playing out in little groups like the log cabin republan

i don't know how many -- i don't know how many people this group speaks to anymore. it's been pretty marginalized from the public debate. especially with the republican party going farther and farther away from gay rights and really rejecting them. so we will see about that. i'm not sure really it makes much of a difference in the end. >> we mentioned the headlines that the president will be in nevada today. he returns to florida friday after stumping there for clinton three days ago. when you think about the president, the first lady, vice-president biden, all hitting the ground really hard for secretary clinton, why do you think she doesn't have a wider lead in some of the battleground states like ohio and north carolina? >> i think north carolina is actually one of the more encouraging states for hillary clinton. if you look at early voting patterns and compare them to 2012 when mitt romney built up a sizable lead in the early vote, that's what allowed mitt romney to carry the state. donald trump doesn't have that this time around. north carolina is looking pretty

good. florida is closer. florida by its nature is a much closer battleground state. it's always at least in recent years been won by the thinnest of margins. what's interesting is florida is whether the clinton campaign is able to turn out its low propensity voters, people who like hillary clinton would vote didn't but they don't always vote and they may not show up. that's been a focus for the clinton campaign and seeing michelle obama, barack obama out there stumping for her. it may help at least the clinton hopes it will help them carry it in the end. >> in voter turnout. jeremy peters, good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. republican concern on capitol hill. the states in play that could give democrats more power in the senate and the familiar names having trouble winning re-election. with the right st, 80% of recurrent ischemic strokes could be prevented. and i'm doing all i can to help prevent another one. a bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke.

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where he not taking anything for granted. we're going to hammer to do everything we can before the polls close the evening of november 8. >> that, of course, vice-presidential candidate tim kaine on meet the press this morning as he and hillary clinton focus on down ballot races. joining me now harry enton. welcome to you. we have polls showing republicans could be in some down ballot trouble. marco rubio tied with his opponent in florida right now. kelly ayotte behind in new hampshire. you wrote that according to the 538 forecast, democrats have a 73% chance of winning back the senate. that's a pretty big jump from last week. what changed? >> i think the big thing that changed was actually neither of those two races. but really in missouri, with kander going up against the republican incumbent and in nevada where joe heck to replace

harry reid. we have seen the democrat come up significantly. those two races along with new hampshire have helped democrats have a good shot of taking back the u.s. senate. >> wow. i'm looking at the stats in your article here. up 23 points in missouri, that's huge. >> right. that's the percentage chance that he would win, 23% jump in the chance he would win. we have seep more potive polls for them. if you talk to republicans in missouri, they are very, very worried that blunt is going to lose his re-election bid. >> so what is behind all of it? could it be that republican candidates here that we are talking about that they have been supporting trump too long? >> it's a little bit of both. if you look at joe hecht has districted himself from donald trump. it could be some republicans who were going to vote for trump say i don't want to vote for hecht. if you look in new hampshire, kelly ayotte called trump a role model and had to back up. so they are just fighting where they are saying, i need the republican base. but at the same time, i need to

get those voters in the middle. it's this difficult balancing act. it doesn't seem like they are pulling it off. >> it's kind of whiplash for the constituents. they don't know what to believe. >> exactly. it's basically they are going with the wind. it's just very, very difficult. because there's just no formula here. there's no one that has run for president who has been like donald trump. so these republican incumbents don't know how to deal with it. >> we have talked missouri, nevada. talk about income in pennsylvania and indiana. >> north carolina is a state where the incumbent is probably leading. but by a small margin. we expect a close -- most voters who will vote for hillary clinton will vote for deborah ross. the race is so tight. pennsylvania, i don't know who is going to win. i don't think most people know. pat toomey has run a good campaign. he hasn't endorsed donald trump but he hasn't distanced himself. he is balancing it best. if you look at the state like

indiana, evan bye, the public polls although limited show he is leading over young the republican nominee. >> here is something interesting. it's almost like you have to be a socioloaologysociologyist. the one i want to talk about -- i know you didn't write about it but i want to talk about the shy factor. shy voters, this article listing that this could be one of the big reasons, these shy voters being those that are saying, you know, i don't want to admit i'm going to be voting for donald trump. but i'm going to do it maybe behind -- do it privately in the polling booth. how much is that a factor in this election? >> you know, i have heard this argument over and over and over again from republicans who say, you know what, you are not counting these people who are saying they are not going to vote for trump but will in the end. look back to the primary. look at the polling. the polling in fact if anything overestimated how well donald trump was going to do. if you look back at past campaigns where they made the same argument of shy voters,

maybe it was todd achen running for the senate in missouri or david duke running for governor, in both those cases in fact, those candidate even met or fell behind what they were polling while it was the democratic candidates who did much better than expected. >> all right. harry, thank you so much. good to talk with you. >> thank you. happen ing now in iraq, ash carter heading closer to the front lines and who he is visiting. it's easy to love your laxative... ...when that lax loves your body back. only miralax hydrates, eases, and softens to unblock naturally. so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax.

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area. it crashed into a big rig. this happened about 5:00 a.m. this morning. the consequences of this are all four lanes of the westbound i-10 in that area have been shut down. we don't have any information about injuries nor where this u.s. holiday line bus was going to or coming from. we're going to get that information as soon as we can. that would mean that for about the last 4 1/2 hours or so, it has been a real mess there on the i-10 westbound in the palm springs area, specifically very close to the indian canyon exit. more information on thi as soon as we have it. what we do have for you coming up, donald trump's popularity with women voters and whether he faces as much of an uphill battle with them as the polls suggest. hey, it's the phillips' lady! there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try these delicious phillips' fiber good gummies, a good source of fiber to help support regularity. mmmm. these are great. my work here is done. phillips'. the tasty side of fiber.

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under way. u.s. defense secretary ash carter arrived in the northern iraqi city of irbeale. what do we know about the defense secretary's visit and the fighting updates today? >> reporter: alex, this was the defense secretary's second visit to iraq in as many days. he went to abu dhabi in twendbe a visit to baghdad and now he is in northern iraq. his mission was twofold. he was here to reassure the troops this was a mission worth fighting. the fight for mosul was an honorable one and that the recent loss of a serviceman who died north of mosul, he didn't die in veiain. the iraqi troops are worth supporting. he was here to try to choreograph this very delicate dance among the different security forces. again, this is something that u.s. troops and u.s. policy

makers know well. iraq is a very difficult to govern. bringing all of these different security forces to bear around motional and getting them to cooperate has been a major diplomatic difficulty and a hurdle. he is here to try to mend all of the bridges. >> matt, may i ask you about this factory that is burning and fumes have made more than 1,000 people sick? what happened there? >> reporter: this is just isis acting erratically as pressure comes to bear on their holding of mosul. this is something they have done in the past. essentially, they set fire to this sulfur factory. it was near two a u.s. base. actually, u.s. troops were forced to don gas masks to avoid the fumes. we haven't smelled any of the fumes around here where we are. this was something that -- this is something that isis does when they start to feel the pressure. they did this recently south of here where they threatened to open up dams to flood areas

where they were witnessing -- taking an assault from iraqi security forces. as they start to feel the pressure, alex, they start to behave erratically. this is another example of that. >> okay. matt bradley, thank you so much. want to get back to this breaking news that we brought you at the bottom of the hour. that being this bus crash on interstate 10 westbound in the palm springs palm desert area in southern california. our first pictures of the u.s. holiday bus line bus which was traveling in the left lane westbound. that would have been going towards los angeles. it crashed into a big rig. this happened around 5:00 a.m. local time. looking at information we're getting from the desert sun newspaper there, attributing this to them, they say that seven people have been killed in this incident. 21 people have been injured, taken to area hospitals there in the valley. again, a very, very serious bus crash. the result of which is not only an investigation but they are closing down all four westbound

lanes of the i-10 freeway, which means being circumvented off interstate $10. it it goes coast to coast. this is probably two hours or so east of los angeles in the palm springs area. a devastating crash. according to the desert sun newspaper, resulting in seven deaths and at least 21 people injured. that happening around 5:00 a.m. this morning. pretty tragic news. we will stay on top that was and bring you pictures and more information as we get that. let's go back to politics. donald trump sounding optimistic about his standing with female voters saying this last night. >> we're going to do so well with the women. it's crazy. wait until those numbers come out in november -- on november 8. >> early voting demographics are suggesting he may be fighting an uphill battle. this according to politico, an article stating more women are casting early ballots than men. at least one of those locations, north carolina has reported much

larger numbers from democratic women than republican women. joining me now, linda chavez, a former reagan administration official. linda, with a welcome to you. donald trump, do you think he is ignoring warning signs about his position with women voters? >> well, he is ignoring a lot of warning signs from a lot of different groups. i think women are probably the number one group that he has difficulty being able to win over. he doesn't help himself when he goes on national television and instead of talking about his agenda, starts threatening to sue women who have alleged that he has grope d them of he is in trouble. >> how does it make you feel to come on broadcast as a former reagan administration official, obviously a republican, to talk about your presidential candidate in this way? >> well, you negotiation it really is a problem for me. as i listened to that speech yesterday that he gave, there

were many of his ten points that i agreed with, that i wish i had heard more from him about during the primary and during the general election. but he always manages to step on his own leads by going out and saying something outrageous which gets all of the attention. yesterday, it was all about how he was going to sue the women who have alleged that he groped them. frankly, if i were one of those women, he called them a liar on national television. they have got a very good case that he is slandering them. talk about suits. i wouldn't be surprised to see after the election some of the women suing donald trump and trying to get him under oath to talk about what he did or did not do. >> in terms of the tenor you are referring to, of course the more memorable moments from the debate was this dig against hillary clinton. here it is. >> my social security payroll contribution will go up as will donald's assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it.

but what we want to do is to replenish -- >> such a nasty woman. >> what was your reaction to that comment? >> you know, this is the problem that all professional women have. if you are on top of your game, if you are aggressive, if you know your facts, you are considered to be too hard. if on the other hand you are soft and feminine, then you are not up to the job. so i think all women who have been in a position where they are being judged not just by what they know or what they have done, but on their sex are going to react very negatively to this. i think again, it was one of the ways in which he stepped on his own lines. nasty woman came out to be one of that with bad hombres seemed to be the two memorable takeaways from that debate. >> you mentioned the 11 women who are putting out these allegations of sexual misconduct

against him, none of which that nbc news has been able to identify or verify ourselves. how do you view these allegations against the candidate in comparison with those against bill clinton? >> well, i was a very outspoken critic of bill clinton. i thought he should have resigned once the monica lewinsky story broke. i was pleased to see that he was, in fact, impeached. i regretted that he was not, in fact, convicted by the senate. so i have been very consistent that if you are going to treat women as sex objects, if you are going to treat them badly, if you are going to take advantage of women who work for you, you have no place in american politics. what has surprised me is that so many republicans who were outspoken about bill clinton, including donald trump himself, suddenly look the other way when so many women have come out and we heard donald trump himself on that tape bragging about what he does with women. >> big picture here, linda. there's an article in the new yorker this week exploring the,

quote, vanishing republican party. how has the republican party evolved from the party you knew during your time in the reagan administration and why do you think it's involved this way instead of splitting off into two factions? >> i think there's going to be a reckoning after this election. if the republican party decides to go down the trap with donald trump and becomes the party of grievance, becomes the victim party, becomes the party of white nationalism, it's going to go the way of the wigs. it's going to dwisisappear. on the other hand, there is an opportunity i think now to try to rebuild the party to try to focus on the issues. i am no fan of hillary clinton. i disagree with her on practically every policy issue out there. and if the polls are correct and she becomes our president, republicans are going to have a chance to present an alternative vision. but they cannot do that if donald trump becomes the face of

the republican party. it's got to be people like marco rubio, people like some of our senate candidates who are out there fighting, rob portman and others. it's got to be a party that focuses on ideas, on issues and that makes the stark contrast between policies of the democrats and what are the policies the republican party going back now decades. >> all right. well said. thank you so much. >> thank you. building aw ining a wall, t the practicality and why many think it's unrealistic. the concern about losses in the down ballot races for the republican party. love my shop, but my back pain was making it hard to sleep and open up on time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.

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semi-truck. it's happening on the westbound lanes of interstate 10 near palm springs. it's specifically in the community of desert hot springs. it happened just about 5:00 a.m. this morning. want to tell you the information we are getting. this bus left the red earth casino heading somewhere in los angeles. again, this is the bus line is called the u.s. holiday tour bus. this happened around 5:00 a.m. this morning. it's a devastating crash that happened there in the left lane westbound lanes of interstate 10. the entire westbound part of interstate 10 there is shut down. there are detours off of indian canyon recoroad. we will get you more information. back to politics. border security has been a big topic since donald trump pledged to build a wall along the 2,000 mile southern border. is this a realistic goal?

residents in texas who have a view of what life along the border is like don't think so. joining me now, jason book who covered border affairs. welcome to you. i know you wrote an article about this topic. why do residents think a border wall is unrealistic? what are some of the reasons? >> well, for one thing, there's already several hundred miles of existing border fencing that's been put in. we talked to people who had mixed reviews about how effective that has been. then in texas, we have really wide swaths of very remote border along the rio grande river that a lot of people said it would be very, very difficult to build some sort of massive physical barrier there. >> they're saying it's logistically not possible? you spoke with some who seem to agree or disagree with the rhetoric of mr. trump regarding even immigration and the border issues them services. >> right.

we talked -- the wall is almost universally opposed to the people we talked to. polling has shown the same thing. even trump supporters that we talked to who liked what he was saying about the economy and even about border security didn't support the wall. i think we talked to one person who supported the wall and polling found about 15% of border residents are really strongly in favor of the wall. to be honest with you, most of the people were talking about the economy. they were talking about international trade and they were talking about the candidate's personality, the candidate's character. >> what about the bigger issue? is there a bigger issue here than just stopping the flow of immigrants and deporting 11 million people who already are here? is there something that can be done before people even get here to stem the flow? >> certainly, the u.s. right now is trying very hard to slow the movement of people fro central america to our borders. mexico has begun massive

deportations of central americans coming through that country. the u.s. is spending large amounts of money on economic development in what they call the northern triangle countries. so there is an argument being made right now that you can attack some of the issues at the root rather than trying to fight them as our congressman says at the one yard line. >> jason, you say the root. immigration has been the root of donald trump's campaign. is it a winning approach for him, bottom line? what do you think? from those along the border there, the southern border. >> well, i think texas is going to go for trump no matter what. but it's certainly not an issue that most of the people we talked to were incredibly concerned about. we did meet people who live in dangerous areas of the border, people who had been threatened. one of my colleagues talked to a former who had his bump burned

down by traffickers trying to scare him off his property. upstream from the lower valley where most of the trafficking happens, we talked to people -- the territory was too rugged for them to come through where they live. they don't think it's possible to build a wall there. they weren't particularly worried about their own safety. >> all right. jason buch, with the san teenano express news. breaking news, grim news where there are reports of 13 people dead, 31 injured in a horrific bus crash that happe d happened. coming up on -- about five hours about on interstate 10, westbound, in the palm desert, palm springs area, this was coming from a casino going to a destination in los angeles. that would have been a three, three and a quarter hour drive right there. again, this happened about two

hours shy of the destination at 5:00 a.m. this morning. this grim picture you just saw, that's showing people that have been killed in this accident. they are being covered up. it's an awful to see. there's been a horrific traffic jam while this investigation continues. inner state 10 westbound has been shut down completely. all four lanes closed. there are detours on the indian canyon road for those of you traveling in that area. we will bring you more information as soon as we have it here on msnbc. stay with us.

the front men for donald trump and hillary clinton out flexing their muscles. robby mook reminded supporters, the work is far from done. with me now howard dean, former chair of the democratic national committee and nbc news political analyst alyse jordan.

>> thanks for having us. >> you heard kellyanne conway condemning the media and implying trump's path to victory is narrowing. isn't it fair to report early reporting could impact support among trump supporters? >> the polls i don't -- the polls are the polls. they are always there. it is illegal in some countries to have polls within certain numbers of hours or days of the election. but in this country, it's not. the media social security not reporting on early voting. they don't know what's in the votes. what they know who is voting because they can tell in most states which have party registration if democrats are voting more than republicans are. if women are voting more than men just by the names. i don't think it's fair to complain unless you want to take on the first amendment. >> how about this? if voters feel the race is over

before november 8, is it equally likely to hurt secretary clinton? if her supporters feel like the work is done, are you worried about complacency, say, in bad weather? >> i am. i am worried about complacency. that's the part that -- of early reporting, not of the vote because nobody knows, but who is voting and the supposition it's advantaging secretary clinton. we need every vote we can get. as you know, the campaign is working very hard down ballot to try to get a majority in the senate and something close to a majority in the house. you are right. i think -- i worry about that. >> trump had a policy speech yesterday. it was designed to highlight what he would do in his first 100 days in office. he took quite a detour at the start of the speech saying this. let's take a listen. >> every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. total fabrication. the events never happened.

never. all of these liars will be sued after the election is over. >> so watching him there, he is not reading off the teleprompter. there was a prepared speech. you can see he is just talking to the crowd and his eyes are not reading anything. why does he do that? does he do it because of the applause that he got? those are the loudest amrouz pp he would get. >> i think he absolutely candidate help himself. he can not show the baseline discipline necessary to be a serious contender for the presidency. what i have heard going around the battleground states this past month from undecided voters, is they want donald trump to reassure them about his core stability, that he is a serious person. the bar was so low for what he had to do in those debates, just show up, show a little bit of understanding about policy, and he simply didn't do it to their satisfaction. i think that this is really sunk

in wit undecided voters that donald trump is unhinged and that he wouldn't be stable enough, particularly when it cops co comes to foreign policy. he can go to gettysburg and try to give a serious speech. but he condition evan't control accomplish the policy aims of the speech and to give a more serious demeanor. of it's incredible. >> how much do you think anybody outside of his base cares about that? >> his base loves it when he gives the red meat. >> but he has their votes. >> exactly. he hasn't stopped running in a primary this entire process. he apeems to those voters when he needs to rise above. no, it accomplishes nothing. it makes it a wash like with the third debate. his performance was actually stronger and slightly more substantive, granted the bar is so low. then he ruined it by saying that he wouldn't accept the election results. that became the headline. that hurt down ballot

republicans. >> listen, unfortunately because of the breaking news, we will cut this short. we have 16 more days. we will talk with you again. thank you so much. >> thanks very much. this breaking news you have been following. 13 people killed. 31 injured. this in a tour bus crash in palm springs.

good day, everyone. it's the top of the hour. we begin with breaking news about this deadly tour bus crash near palm springs, california. the california highway patrol reports 13 people are dead, 31 more have been injured. this collision involved a u.s. holiday tour bus. that's the bus tour line. and a semi. it happened just after 5:00 a.m. west coast time. it happened on the westbound lanes of interstate 10 a couple of hours east of downtown los angeles. it happened near the palm springs community. in the area of desert hot