question is, have trump's politics been good for trump's businesses? that we may find out november 9th. that's all we have for today. the folks at "with all due respect" starts now. with all due respect, you may be under budget, ahead of schedule, but you're a little over your word count. with less than two weeks before the election, donald trump did what every candidate would do. attend a hotel ribbon cutting with his family here in washington, d.c. there has been some head scratching in the media over the move with critics accusing trump of foolishly taking time away from his campaign to promote his

business interests. his team said it is a perfect example of his management and his leadership bail. for his part, trump gave what some are calling one of the best and most focused speeches in his campaign in which he touted his hotel. said the project was finished under budget and ahead of schedule and promised to bring that kind of ethic to washington. after the event in an interview for the krirg us, our showtime series, i asked trump about what was for him a very personal speech today. i was trying to say that we built a great building. we but the it under budget and ahead of schedule. our country is so, we can't butler build a highway. we can't build a bridge. we're in such trouble. so i'm very happy with it.

this building has turned out to be so amazing. >> under budget. ahead of schedule. very simple. you look at what's going. on i wanted to come and stop. it really says you can do it under budget and great work. under budget, ahead of schedule. our country has to do things under budget and ahead of schedule. >> we'll have more of that interview from showtime's the circus. after that talk, he went back out. was going to this hotel opening a distraction or a smart political move? >> well, i would say that if donald trump had spent this entire campaign talking about his prowess as a builder and

creating a message architecture around that, this would have been on message and potentially effective in playinging the argument he was making. it seems random and it was tailor made to generate the news coverage saying this is donald trump looking past election day to his business interests. >> as is often the case, the campaign didn't lay enough ground work. they think the press is hostile on them. i thought it was one of the best speeches he's given. he was thematic. he was calm and optimistic. i don't know if he'll give this speech ever again. if he had given a version of this at the convention and driven it into the fall, i think he would be doinger, at least in material of message and style.

he was one of the most natural and heart felt speeches i've heard him give. by getting off the campaign trail, i think people make way too much of it. candidates go all the time to give big focus speeches in places like new york and chicago. washington with this hotel that he's very proud of. that does represent an accomplishment for him. it makes sense to me. >> i would say maybe candidates do get off the campaign trail and give big focus speexs. they usually do it in may or jn or july. they don't do it in the last few weeks. they don't do it when they're behind. i think like so many trump speeches. i think we're saying the same thing here. he gave the speech the other night in the ethics reform. if he had started giving that speech in may and a consistent disciplined way, he would be in a better position. he didn't and he is not. >> definitely too little too late to be a game speech. a very well wren speech which

isn't often the case. >> you can say that again. overbiden and donald trump have been mano y mano in trash talking. over the past few days, well, see for yourself. >> the press always asks me, don't i wish i were debating him? no. i wish we were in high school and i could take him behind the gym. i would get myself in trouble and say i would like to take him behind the high school. i understand what assault is. i don't have a temper anymore. nothing ever bothers me. look, folks. i get it. no. >> did you see where biden wants to take me? to the back of the barn. me. i would love that.

the point i was making, he is trying to dumb down. he is insulting everybody in the neighborhoods i come from and the people who play ball and that was the point i was trying to make. this is unacceptable behavior. period. so joe biden started this fight and he keeps stoking it. i think he is 50% like elizabeth warren, like hillary clinton to some extent. he likes provoking trump and trying to put the focus on trump. it it is 50% joe biden backed down. having made the first remark off the top of hishead. he is not inclined to back down. this is no doubt they've wanted to paint him with the brush.

they're trying to get hill to lash out in some way to make the point that he should not be in the oval office. we talked about this when we were with him after brought it up the second time in toledo on monday. and i got some sense. the truth is that part of the reason joe biden keeps saying it, he would like to kick his butt. >> he's been a critic of trump. neighbor only time he responded to him directly and i think we know that he would like to go out there and end the cycle. and this gets him in with the republican nominee. he is doingioman's work. arguing the case for down ballot democrats. this put him in the narrative and that is where joe biden loves to be. >> and it does for biden, whet

the appetite if he had been the nominee. the back and forth. >> a donny brook. >> new polls out today. the national survey shows hillary clinton leading donald trump by 9 points among likely voters. that's the exact same margin today in new hampshire. the most important poll of the day if we can say so ourselves is a brand new blume bloomberg poll. our survey shows it is razor then with trump leading cleanse by 2 points mongss likely voters. the two-person race. trump's margin is 1%. of course both within the margen of error. they are dead locked in our

survey. clinton leads among early voters. 31-36%. it is because they include cuban american who's are a long time republican leading block. clinton is leading today where they have ground game. who would you give upper hand to? >> let me say we have breaking news on the polling front. it has hillary up by 14 points nationally. 51 to 37. so let's throw that to the polling upon fibonfire. i think the race will be very close in florida. i think that the democrats ten.

to have small advantage. because of the ground game, because of the early vote. i think they have a small advantage still. but the trend line would be worrying if i was hillary clinton. it keeps getting tighter and tighter in florida. if she doesn't turn that around, she might lose that state. >> you have to say that hillary clinton would be the mild favorite there. there are two things that cause me to think that trump could well went florida. one is rick scott is the governor. and rick scott getting elected governor shows you a conservative business person outsider is someone who appeals to the florida voter. the other thing is in all part of the state. i sense intense enthusiasm for trump. it is just hard to organize a sfat big. >> there is no question about that. we'll see the early votes. she will do well there.

i think it is pretty close to the toss-up state. that lead with the ap poll. another big lead for hillary clinton. incredible. all right. now for a message from hillary clinton. >> far too many families today don't whaern they need and don't have the opportunities they deserve. i believe families deserve quality education for their kids, childcare they can trust and afford. equal pay for women and jobs they can really live. on people ask me, what will be different if i'm president? kids and families have been the passion of my heart and they will be the heart of my presidency. >> wfs one of two new adds that they put out today. outlining the closing arguments. here is the other ad. >> our children may look up to

us. what we value. how we treat others. and how they're looking to see what kind of leaders we choose. who will entrust our country and their future to. will it be the one we respect or the one who threatens our allies and emboldens our enemies? the one who is unprepared for the challenges? a steady hand or a loose cannon. we heard donald trump's comments. my question for you is how well do you think these clinton ads will translate into her closing argument message in these final two weeks of the campaign? a lot of the ads grechb high marks. pretty strong ads. a lot of campaign that's she is

trying to close on a more positive message. a softer message. and i think these are pretty solid to turn out the kind of voters she'll need to keep the lead that she's got right now. >> i agree with that 100%. and they are closing on two tracks basically. two adds. two tracks. one that is about real people and one is the scary faces trump is making. it looks like he is making an unpleasant salute there. i think those ads together make an effective one-two punch. they have a the love money behind them. donald trump has shut down his fundraising operations. i think if she takes the arguments from those ads and makes them effectively on the stump. that's a good way for her to tend campaign. >> we don't know how much trump will put in. and we don't know how much

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in need to low-cost internet at home. welcome to a brighter future. comcast. i cod donald trump's rememberon cutting on pennsylvania avenue. the brand new hole. in an interview for the circus, i spoke to trump after the event. and i asked him about what his opponents have been saying about his new building. >> i wouldn't be surprised. it is a new luxury hotel but the same old story. allowed undocumented workers to make his product cheaper. even to make his taxes lower. >> we had no undocumented

workers. a false report was written that they found a couple out of the thousands of people that built it. we had no undocumented workers building this hotel. in fact we used everify. the newspaper came over and said i think that person is undocumented. this was an everify building. every single worker was documented. >> are there foreign products in the building? >> i don't know. i would like to make it so there are not but this country doesn't make things anymore. our country doesn't make things anymore. things you buy. the air conditioners just moved to mexico. china. mexico. germany. they're making our pros. this is one of the reasons i'm running. the problem we have, when you build something like this, so much of the bidding has to go to other countries. i would love to buy television

sets made in the united states but they're all made the south korea and japan. >> one more question that the speech. people are reacting leak this is a different tone, a different way of talking about your candidacy. >> it's different. when i'm speaking in front of 25,000 people like last night. we had an amazing crowd. we have amazing crowds all over. you know that. we have maximum produced. last night we had 25,000. and we had 15,000 they couldn't get in. do you know why? stampede. i think they're different. that speech wouldn't be well received if i'm in front of 25,000 people with the spirit to make america great again. it employs a lot of people. et cetera, et cetera. i think that speech was approach. >> some polls now you're winning. some you're behind. we have a new poll in north. what is your general sense?

>> i think we're winning ohio. so do you. i think we're winning florida. i think we're winning florida by much more than your polls. you have us 2 opponents up. i think we're going to do fantastically in pennsylvania. i think we're winning north carolina. i think we will soon be winning new hampshire. when i go there, it's jobs. fix our military. take care of our vets. don't let the world take advantage of us. i don't know if i'm a great messenger. >> you're going on get 270 electoral votes? >> i think we're going to win. >> wikileaks, i know you and your campaign have said, what do you want the american people to know about the message? they're not hillary clinton's e-mails. >> wikileaks shows how crooked the whole thing is. i shows how unbelievably

dishonesty is. i don't know john podesta. he says very bad things. he says she has bad enstingts. i wouldn't want anyone talking about me the way he talks about her. he comes out strongly that she has bad instincts and she doesn't know what she's doing. >> do you think your team ever sends e-mails back and forth? >> i hope not. bernie sanders said she has bad judgment. when i look at the e-mail by john podesta saying she has bad instincts. i don't want my president to have bad instincts. i'm my team's #1 fan. yay. sports. i've never been #1 in hing until put the babies on. now we're on a winning streak and i'm never taki them off. do i know where i'm going? abtely.

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on win. we are going to win. if you look at state by state, you're the first one that came out today. florida we're up. believe me. that number is a low number. i think arizona will be great. obamacare is going up over 100% in arizona. ? i want strong strong borders which they want. >> but the polls are closer. >> sure. it is closer and i have a third party person running too which doesn't exactly help me. i think we'll have strong voters. and we are going to terminate obamacare. it is a candidate. arizona, just about higher than anybody else. over 100% increase. hillary clinton wants to keep and it make it even more expensive. we're going to win in arizona. >> and we're going to be doing a massive tax cut. she's going to raise taxes.

>> for not explaining how health care works. >> they were asking about obamacare. i was not referring to that. i have so many people. so many different -- i have companies with obamacare, contractors with obamacare. those people are suffering. i was not referring to them. i didn't bring them out to talk about obamacare or health care. i just brought them out to show what a great place that is. it is so expensive that they can't afford it. and it is closing up businesses. >> so mark, i have a question for you. i watched both segments of the interview. well done. a lot of people are watching his body language. they think he must understand that he's losing.

slipping into defeatism. he seemed pretty calm to me. >> he did. he has a quiet confidence. he is down by more than we acknowledged but hope springs eternal with every candidate we've ever covered. if you can see yourself to 270 electoral votes. and right now he has a poll from new hampshire showing him closer. they've always went a little bullish on that one district in maine. i think the data wouldn't give him as much confidence as he seem to have but he didn't seal anything but comfortable. we've seen that with plenty of candidates we've covered when the data is like this. >> if i were him, i would be taking a deep breath. looking at, i have to have my running mate in utah this close to election day if were a

republican. i'm struck by his calm i haven't seen him that calm it seems like in months. >> he was both calm and fired up. it was interesting. every behind candidate does that. so more of our interview with donald trump. this sunday night. on the circus, on showtime. when we come back, we'll talk some strategy and some campaign closing arguments with some smart people right after this. ♪ ♪ hey, is this oururn? yeahwe go left rht honey...ohere.rn (woman vo) greatdvenrearestill . wel find them in our su(avo) love.k. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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it is time for the meeting of the minds. with us from houston is the big brain, jeff rowe, campaign manager to ted cruz's presidential bid. and with us from chicago, always genius. we found him weeping over his cubs' loss last night.

the former senior spokesman and the former national press secretary for the national committee. i'll ask you both the same question. something we've been discussing and puzzling over the past two days. this new a.p. poll. not inconsistent with a lot of polls. has hillary clinton up by 14 points nationally. and on the same day, bloomberg politics has one example. it shows the north race tightening. how do we recognize the wide lead in the polls with the much tighter state of affairs in the battle ground states? the disparity is that they get the coverage that goes with the campaign nationally. they don't get state by state. they don't get advertising. this he don't get the visits. they don't get on really have

the vibe of the campaign going on in their communities. they don't have volunteerism or signs or any aspect of a real campaign. so it is what it looks like. it is a stray. much more so this year than normal. there's been. so more from trump. these state by state polls are all closed. all margins of error. >> same question to you, my friend. i think the polling will be a greater disparity on the national level than some of the swing states. that's why they're swing states. what i'm looking at is more hard data that isn't as volatile. and that's the early numbers. you look at a state like florida where bloomberg had a poll out today. the early numbers there are very encouraging. essentially they're tied.

they've come in between democrats and republicans. whereas at this point in 2012, the republican number was plus 5. so the support score that you see will be a little more volatile. that's very encouraging for the clinton campaign. >> we've heard talk of some senate candidates, some house candidates. i know you're concerned with a lot of folks running down ballot. where does the level of concern or panic sit currently with senate house candidates on the republican side given trump's circumstances? >> i think what everybody is bracing for is, is the national polls ever going to translate? it has had a bit of an inverse relationship. some of them have increased. most of the really targeted seats in the last two weeks, maybe with the exception of

florida. and new hampshire. they've almost all been a beneficiary of the trump fall. so that has been encouraging. i think what everybody is doing. you're down in the basement and it is starting to sway a little bit. the floor boards are coming up. everybody is worried about a collapse. when you see the democrat money come in to may. the super pac money pile in. everybody is worried about that. there are no signs yet. it has gotten stronger. >> as they start to say, hillary clinton, we need to check on hillary clinton. basically telling voters, vote for republicans for congress to stop hillary clinton from having a majority. what is the right message? >> ythsds you nei don't think y.

you look at pat toomey who can't answer whether he'll vote for trump or not. we saw what happened with allison grimes when she couldn't answer who she voted for for president. that will put them in a very difficult spot. we're seeing it with kelly ayotte. to great degree in nevada. that position where they have to throw their presidential candidate under the bus will anger the republican base. they're in a position where they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. i would say it has. the cook report switched their rating to say democrats are back up 5 to 7 seats. and for the first time they're saying the democrats will take senate back. there are definitely signs of a shift and it is because the republicans are in a very difficult position. >> i want to stick with you and

go back to an earlier answer which purported to the early vote. something i cited when we talked about this. is there any reason? every campaign would like to beg votes. you would rather bank the votes and getting new votes. is there any concern that this is a lot of early democrat votes. that democrats have been itching to vote against donald trump for so long that they're rushing into the early vote. that may not end up being any different in terms of the raw totals when we get to election day? >> i don't think we're doing that. i think what this is a result of. i think there is an enthusiasm, certainly. you're seeing in it states where we hadn't expected it. we're looking at dallas county texas that are through the roof in travis county, where austin is. it is up 100% in 2012. that's enthusiasm.

that's just raw enthusiasm. what i think it is a result of, a really sophisticated result program where we've targeted voters and been engaging with them for a very long time. and getting them out through sophisticated plans for early he votes. we'll have the same target for election day as well. that's date and targeting and field the republican campaign hasn't had. >> let me ask you the last question. there are four states. it looks like she is in the margin of error. which of those four states should donald trump be most worried about? >> arizona would be the one. that's a place where kit manifest. utah will come around.

they'll be fine. texas is find. democrats are just voting earlier. it doesn't mean there's energy. publicly, 8 million people have voted as of today and more republicans have voted than democrats. marchly with the hispanic growth there. i would keep an eye on it. >> thank you both. we'll have a campaign surrogate program here and everywhere else. if you're watching to us from washington, d.c., you can listen to us on the radio. we'll be right back. ♪

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york. thank you both for joining us. congressman, i'll start with you. i'm wondering what you think of that message. >> well, it is laughable. when you look at his record, look what he to do for all his life. he doesn't change colors in a day or two. even his campaign. everything that he's indicated to me. he's never walked the the african-american community. he is talking to his base. the stereotypical way that he talks about african-americans, it is talking to the base that he hopes to turn out. i understand what he's doing. the african-americans are not fooled by what he's doing and that's why he will probably get .02% of their vote. >> the voting has already started. what kind of vote does donald trump aspire to? >> i thi he mans to beat the record of any previous gop candidate in reason history.

i know that he is doing extremely well with mean orts in florida and some of the other key swing states. he is talking about the things people care about. people who have been locked out of the system. they are used for their votes every time an election circles around and then they're forgotten about right after the election. you can look night city run by democrat rule for decades. everyone of those cities. the plight of minorities is worse than any other cities. so i think mr. trump's free market approach, talking about getting kids out of these schools that they are imprisoned in. i think this resonates and i think he will set records. >> congressman meeks, i'm going to make a similar point. she wrote, the democrat machine

has used planation politics for so long, most don't know they're on the plantation. she says the hypocrisy is as critical as any slave owner and more dishonest. >> i think number one, it shows complete naive ty to know what shavory is really about. i don't hear anybody talking about it for decades. recommending appalachian. poor whites represent by republicans. for decades. are they on a slave plantation? do you hear what slavery really was and what it represents? to utilize those words in this context. in fact what america has done. america has moved forward.

the greatest man on this planet. when we look at the progress with all ethnicities. and particularly african-americans. >> i would love to get your response. i think the establishment has done an incredible snow job on americans and i believe they're being used for their votes to give power to the establishment. there are dirty corrupt establishment people on both sides of the aisle. many trump has come in and spoken not only about the the kraik establishment but also the gop establishment. he stood up to the media establishment that many of us that are completely color blind in this world have wanted to see. some of these old elitists.

institutional forms of discrimination, abolished and i think mr. trump has done that. he's demonstrated in his own company his ability and willingness to use the most qualified person in the job. the person that talked to me when i wasn't supporting mr. trump. i knew more about them and felt safer. the people that talked me into it were all mean orts. this isn't really about skin which are. this is about breaking up the cartels. giving power back to the people. >> i have to ask you. you're a minority in what sense. >> i'm actually jewish is my heritage. i'm a christian but my heritage is jewish. and that is another group of people that i feel like have

been used election after election with scare tactics and other things. to get their vote and then they're completely shoved aside when it comes to actual policy. >> i want to ask you both the same question. to say you understand what inspired and motivated supporters of donald trump, what do you think about the common cause? >> i think hillary clinton has already shown the ability to bring people together. she's done it and i've seen her do it in new york. >> i'm talking about issues. what are the issues you think hillary clinton shares? >> when you talk about jobs, transportation, infrastructure. i think it is a bill that she would put forward in the first 100 days. a lot of the donald trump supporters would love to make sure that their infrastructure and their role improves.

that the bill would put forward. >> quickly, what do you think hillary clinton talks about that you final appealing? >> she talks about a lot of things that i find appealing but her actions speak a lot louder. she's talking about jobs. the regulator is essentially the boss. she wants to be that regulator. mr. trump wants to hand the power back to the people. put education on the local level where neighborhoods control their education instead of federal bureaucrats who don't to have look in the eyes of the children or the people out of work. >> thank you very much. it had been hard for the winner tonite the whole country. thank you very much.

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we are at least 13 cycles away from ecounting but who is counting? from our washington, d.c. bureau, good to see you. >> you're counting the days. why? >> because i'm exhaust. it has been a long, long campaign cycle. i think everyone is counting down days at this point. >> so we had a discussion earlier today. we were talking it over. he is in d.c. where you are. a couple different interpretations. one is that he was there to tout his business prowess. which is more accurate? >> well, who knows?

>> my read on it is that his whole pitch is that he is donald trump. he is a businessman. he is someone who has launched successful hotels and built big buildings and things like that. so when i think we're in these final two crucial weeks. it seems like a weird jump off to go to a hotel and do a ribbon cutting. but for him it is a reminder to voters that as he businessman. that this is what he brings to the table. >> a different mood today. what is your sense of where his head is at? >> i think he has kind of come through a bruising few weeks and headed into the final two weeks and has just decided that he will give this his all.

he will to as many rallies as he can. he is perhaps going to follow direction from his staff a little bit more. we've been seeing more scripted speeches. he had a rally where he was focusing on his plan for urban communities and things like that. so we'll see. we'll see what happens. what do you think about the rest of the way? will it be big rallies? >> it is a mix. these big rallies and then smaller gatherings. round table discussions with small groups of people. he had kind of gotten away from doing those and was doing one big rally a day. he is now doing two or three a day must a few smaller events with smaller groups of people. and he is sticking to the core states where he really needs to

compete. earlier we saw him going to wisconsin and colorado and places where you just wondered, why is he spending time in these places? even today with washington, d.c. but i think they're planning on really, really focusing on the places where he really needs to be. and even a more narrow path with new hampshire and maine. where they're trying to find the last five. what he needs to win. >> the campaign. don't like to naval gaze and talk about the president but he has been a story. there was a period about a week ago where there was a lot of tension. today did he a reuters interview, bloomberg. do you think the campaign realizes they need to be more than the bill o'reilly candidate? they are starting to do more

interviews. they haven't returned my questions to do an interview yet. i think he hand done a press conference since late july. this is a guy who used to hit hillary clinton day after day after day for not doing press conferences. so there is someone who is, you know, listening to that criticism and putting hill out there in these interviews to talk to people. i was out on the trail with him all last week and every time he got on to stage he was yelling at the media. saying terrible things at the media. and the hatred that we get from the crowds really has increased. sunday night, saturday night, it was worst i've seen it. >> thank you very much. from the "washington post." john and i will be right back.

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head to bloomberg politics.com for more. until tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel tomorrow. thanks for watching. sayonara. >> "hardball" with chris matthews is next. up in the air. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in new york. hillary clinton has opened a big lead if two national polls heading into the final stretch. up 9 points in the latest usa today suffolk poll. 47-38 in a four-way race. in a brand new poll from the associated press, clinton leads by 14 points. 51-37. as a counter weight, fox news which has a good poll out. it is clos.