. hello, i'm sheinelle jones in new york and msnbc world headquarters. 1:00 in the east, 10:00 out west. new reaction this past hour from the clinton campaign on fbi director comey's decision to review new e-mails that appear to be related to hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server. here's what campaign chairman, john podesta, said moments ago with a call to reporters to disclose more information about the e-mails, said to be in the

thousands. >> 24 hours after that letter was sent, we have no real explanation of why director comey decided to send that letter to congressional leaders. in fact, the more information that's come out, the more overblown this all seems, and the more concern it creates about director comey's actions. by providing selective information, he's allowed partisans to distort and exaggerate in order to inflict maximum damage and no one can separate what is true from what is not, because comey has not been forthcoming with the facts. director comey said this may not be significant. if that's all true, it's hard to see how this amounts to anything, and we're not going to be distracted and hillary is not going to be distracted in the final days of this election over nothing. >> also new this morning, reports from the "new yorker" and "washington post" shedding light on what was going on

between director comey and the justice department when he decided to go public with this new evidence. according to a well-informed administration general, loretta lynch expressed a prefer african-americans of not commenting on ongoing investigations and not taking any action that could influence the outcome of an election. but he said that he felt compelled to do otherwe. nbc's kelly o'donnell has more on the media call. what more did we learn? >> well, i think, sheinelle, what is so striking about this, how forcefully the clinton campaign prepared to talk to reporters who regularly cover their campaign, how strongly worded their condemnation of comey's actions were. and the fact they are trying to sort of set the landscape here. so what we were hearing from is campaign manager, robby mook, campaign chairman, john podesta, the voice in the clip you just played and top spokesperson, brian fallen. they are arguing this will have

no effect on supporters, volunteers and votes and doesn't change the landscape. but the intensity of how they addressed this and the words they used and the forcefulness of it obviously suggests that they are ready to do battle with the fbi director and see this as a potential threat to the campaign in these very late stages. now to sort of reset things, remember, director comey sent this letter to republican and democratic officials of the committees on capitol hill that have some jurisdiction. and at a base level, he was trying to sort of correct his own sworn testimony before congress, soaying the investigation had been completed and now there's this new iteration where they're exploring a laptop or other electronic devices that belong to huma abedin, the close confidante of hillary clinton and her husband at the time. they're still married, but estranged, anthony weiner, former congressman, subject of a probe relating to sexting. so complicated web here, but the connection is that huma abedin

is, of course, a clinton confidante and this is a separate investigation. strong words from john podesta who say they stand by huma abedin, saying she has done nothing wrong, and also trying to give you a sense of what this was like on the call. let's see if we can listen to a piece of john podesta, talking about huma abedin, who is at the center of this latest storm. >> there's absolutely nothing that she's done that we think calls into question anything that she's done with respect to this investigation. she's been fully cooperative and we, of course, stand behind her. >> and this clinton official also talked about comey in some very sharply worded ways. saying that his letter was long on innuendo and short on facts. that he's been severely criticized in the 24 hours since by public reports and by justice department officials. they are really trying to shape the battlefield of this phase of

the campaign to try to blunt any negative sort of repercussions. i happen to be at a trump event when this was breaking, sheinelle. you can imagine among trump supporters, they were able to hear bits and pieces of this comey development and interpret it the way they want to. so the clinton team is certainly trying to refocus attention. and john podesta, the chairman, said this may have absolutely nothing to do with hillary clinton. but they clearly want to fight this now, and try to demand from comey a more complete sort of explanation for why he did what he did, what these e-mails may contain or the investigative documents they're looking at. they want comey to have more to say before this election gets any closer. sheinelle? >> and now it seems like i guess the waiting game continues, to see whether he will speak and try to clarify this. >> it's going to be intense pressure on comey who would have been criticized either way, because if the election proceeded and he had not come forward with this, this would have ultimately been known that he would have been advised in

advance of the election of these e-mails, whether they're duplicate e-mails or whether they reveal anything new. we just don't know. so he was between a rock and a hard place and took a step that many people are criticizing. and certainly people are trying to put a political lens on this, when the clinton officials were specifically asked if they thought comey acted with political intention. they said any motivations ascribed to comey should be asked of him, not them. but clearly, they think that he sort of dropped a bomb in the -- in the campaign, and people are interpreting it in a very volatile way, depending on your -- if you're a defender of hillary clinton or if you are a defender of donald trump. this has -- as we say in the journalism business, a lot of legs. >> yeah, a bombshell. kelly o'donnell, as always, thank you today. let's give you a live look right now in colorado, where the gop nominee is scheduled to hold a rally there in just about an hour. this is his first of two campaign stops today. he's expected to, once again, go after hillary clinton on the e-mail news we've been following now for nearly 24 hours.

when trump takes the podium, of course, we will certainly bring that to you live. with me now, oliver mcgee, a trump campaign adviser and former deputy assistant transportation secretaryn the clinton administration. good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon, sheinelle. and i hope you're enjoying the osu northwestern game today. i know -- >> you looked up my bio. >> the ohio state marching band. >> i'll say go cats. >> and buckeyes. >> let's dig in here. so one of the things we do know here is that these new e-mails and question were either sent or received by a top aide to hillary clinton, huma abedin. and not clinton herself. so because of that, how does trump make the argument that clinton is in the wrong, or that, frankly, she's done something incriminating? >> well, the gop base this year has really put up a brawler in a trump, essentially, inside of a trump. he is basically designed to

support the gop basis principles and issues. and they really are saying to him that this election is not about change. but it's about enough. enough taxes, enough health care premium costs going through the roof. enough infrastructure crashes. we've had two airplane crashes, including the vice president's plane going -- candidate's plane going into a ditch. and all in the same week. and now the gop base is really saying -- and all americans are really saying, we've had enough with the fbi flap. this is something that is coming as a shock. i think people are discussing this at the kitchen tables, at home. they're also discussing this very, very carefully at the coffee urns at work and the american people are very smart, very intelligent and very much quiet right now as looking at this last week of the election. you're going to see about a 10% people in the middle. they're going to break. and they're going to break for one candidate or the other,

depending on how this goes in the next ten days. right now, hillary clinton is having about 5% real clear politics average right now. and that's before the fbi broke. we'll see next week as some of that stuff begins to erode and they flush this out. >> i want to get your thoughts on a fox news poll. less than a third of voters think hillary clinton is honest and trustworthy, but donald trump's numbers aren't much better. 34% think he's honest. how does donald trump successfully go after clinton on her trustworthiness, when according to these numbers, he doesn't have a stronger standing. >> well, sheinelle, this election is really not about presidential personalities. it's really about principles and ideas and issues. and if trump can stay on message, we hope not -- in the last week at foot-and-mouth disease. but basically say focused on issues important to his base. which is immigration, which is the economy, poor joblessness

rate. poor prestige of global -- prestige of america today. i think that he'll be just fine. and hillary will have to basically try to put this fbi flack behind her as fast as possible. this is probably something that became very, very unexpected, and it's very, very difficult to be able to do that when the investigation has to proceed naturally and slowly. ultimately, this fbi flap is about executive judgment. it's about empathizing with voters, asking the proper questions and doing service in the investigation and for the election itself. >> hillary clinton has said, look, this has been baked in the cake and just seems like -- i don't want to overplay this here, but, you know, does donald trump run the risk of overplaying his hand, potentially, and really, frankly turning people off from his consistently being on the attack? i mean, you started by talking about the issues and things that americans care about. but frankly, part of the criticism with him is that that's exactly what he doesn't do. that he doesn't stay on message, and he doesn't restrain himself.

>> well this will be the moment for both candidates. you're very right, sheinelle. there is some bake in the cake, either for the trump percentages, or with his base and for the hillary percentages, which is their base. but it's really what matters right now, is the 10% in the middle. those independents will decide this election. and those independents are looking very closely at not necessarily change on the left, but looking at enough on the right. and they're really trying to determine have they had enough. and if that's the case and they break in the last moments -- that's how this election is going to be decided. in a week. and really, with the fbi flap out, it is very difficult for this election to really be able to shift as naturally as it was. >> oliver? >> in a place where no man or woman has gone before. >> i don't want to cut you off here. but it seems like in these final days, i will admit, people are changing their tune, flipping their votes. a lot of people unsure. i'm curious about you. you looked me up, and i'm

thinking, you were transportation secretary in the clnt administration and now on the trump side. what happened? >> well, i started to look at america and i started seeing a trend in the obama era. i put his presidency in a timer rah when i wrote the book, "jumping the aisle," how i became a black republican in the age of obama. and it's a rhetorical look at america, not necessarily obama itself. and i saw left term, right term, people lost to no return. we the people are responsible for we the lawmakers who are accountable in washington. and right now you hear the team in washington is now a swamp. well, george washington, when he first called to put the white house, move from philadelphia to washington, he did it because he wanted to put them in a classic, wonderful town called foggy bottom, at that time was a swamp. so it's pretty ironic that we're in what the founding fathers were seeing before. the noisy election -- this is not unusual when we look at american history. so it's really hard politics we saw in the federalist papers and

that's what i was really think when i wrote "jump the aisle" because we're all bipartisan. >> i have to run. so when it comes to donald trump's tone or they call him a loose cannon, that doesn't bother you or not to throw another thing in this, and we have two seconds left. the african-americans. a lot of african-americans feel he's categorizing us or not speaking to us. none of that bothers you? >> well, trump is a brawler. the gop basically put up a brawler. and if he is fighting for african-american ideas, which he is. he's asking for the african-american vote. and that is unique in itself. he's probably going to get about 5, maybe even 7% of the vote. if he gets anywhere from 10 or 12%, he's at nixon numbers. nixon won with that percentage of the black vote. he gave us all the premise of the small business administration. so that's essentially where the noise is, and if he gets that type of twist that's in philadelphia, then pennsylvania comes in play.

>> i don't know, i was in philadelphia for ten years. we'll see. oliver mcgee, i have to leave it there. thank you for talking with me this afternoon. >> thank you for having me, sheinelle. still ahead, one of the longest and closest relationships in u.s. politics. how will the latest twist on the clinton e-mail investigation affect hillary clinton and huma abedin? reaction, next.

wr. right now, taking a live look at an event in golden, colorado. donald trump expected to take the stage within the hour. we will bring that to you, live. new revelations from the latest news on hillary clinton's e-mail investigation. the "washington post" reporting that fbi director went against senior justice department officials who warned him his decision to renew the investigation was not consistent with the long-standing

department practices, and could be viewed as influencing an election. joining me now to talk about this, seema meta for the los angeles times. the clinton campaign seizing on this news that coma went against the justice department. listen to what bobby mook had to say earlier this morning. take a listen. >> this is a very concerning situation. the more information that comes out, the more overblown this entire situation seems to be. that in turn has raised more questions about that director comey from his colleagues in law enforcement circles to take this extraordinary step 11 days out from the presidential election. >> i have to tell you, they're coming out aggressively on this one. what's your take? >> well, they are being very aggressive. and i think they have to be, because there is -- now there's ten days left and this leaves questions. millions of people already voted

but a lot of people going to the polls as we speak, casting their ballots today, tomorrow, the next week. and so i think they really want to get all of the information out there. then they also have to walk a bit of a line. let's not forget, earlier this year when comey closed the investigation and said they didn't file charges, they praised him for the being nonpartisan. they can't look like they're trying to have it both ways. >> hillary clinton insichts, all of the info has to come out and quickly. what's the impact? all afternoon, all morning, people have been saying that comey has to clarify, has to speak up. what if he doesn't? what happens? >> i mean, i think it leaves a lot of questions in voters' mind. the thing i'm really curious about, if the poll something currently favorable for hillary clinton, if she's elected president and this investigation is ongoing, how does that impact her transition to the white house, how does that impact her relationship with congressional republicans, which we already knew was going to be testy or difficult? does she get that honeymoon period? i think this could have far-reaching consequences.

>> you recently wrote a third-party vote is a vote for clinton. how will this news play out for third party voters? do you think this could change anything? >> i think -- the vast majority of people are decided at this point. it's oh owe whether they love them or hate them, most know what they're doing. for the small number of people who don't know what they're doing, you often hear from them, we really can't stand either one of those candidates. are these the best two the country had to offer. so people who are truly undecided, this does feed into the narrative about the clintons, they are untrustwor y untrustworthy, crooked hillary, or believe they're above the law. if if you have those existing preconceptions about the clintons, this feeds that narrative. that's if you're on the other side and believe the clintons have been the subject of this fast right wing conspiracy as hillary clinton put it many years ago, this feeds that narrative that once again, they're under attack and didn't do anything wrong. >> i want to ask you quickly, the e-mail stems from an investigation into anthony weiner's alleged six tinge, huma

abedin's top adviser. do you think this could, you know, be critical for their relationship? >> they -- both hillary and bill clinton have described huma abedin as their second daughter, incredibly close to her. i have to imagine, if are i were humana, i would want to die right now. first the public humiliation and to have this happen less than two weeks before the election and to have it be tied to your estranged husband's, you know, sending pictures to possibly underage women. i don't know, obviously, what's long-term impact this is going to have on their relationship, but they have been incredibly close for a long, long time. >> seema meta, political reporter for the los angeles times. we got a lot in there in a couple minutes. thank you. still ahead, the vote in florida. how people will react if the candidate of their choice doesn't win. on election day. hear from a round table on this very question, next. remember wheyou said mee superior drirs? ye... yeahthen how'd i get this... ..llste sa drivinnusc ...only allsta sends you a bonus check

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prospect. >> stephanie, at that you can to me about the 9th of november and your candidate doesn't win. >> i'll be thankful for the democratic process, regardless, and the opportunity we all have to vote in this country. more than that, on a personal level, i would hope that the press will continue to be as independent as i, you know, still see it as coming from a background in journalism. and beyond that, i would hope that the current president will be allowed or will see criticism from journalists in a way that will be constructive and not shut down our rights to criticize or our rights to write articles or publicize information that may be -- or cast him or her in a negative light. >> leo, let's just say the person you support doesn't win. >> first of all, it's going to be a very sad day and not sad day because we lost or because the other party got elected. it's going to be a sad day for all the people that don't believe in corruptive government. i mean, corruptive politicians.

i mean, if you authorize everything that's been done to the other side and you give them the legitimacy to go and be a president, you actually authorize everything she has done. you are starting the path that is going to be the future. next four years, it's going to be devastating to this country. politicians will know they can actually do stuff and get away with it. >> so leo, tell me how you specifically will deal with it. how will you deal with your own reality, 9th of november and 21st of january. >> first of all, i will accept the elections as-is. this is a democracy and obviously there is fault in that. there are some bad things in democracy that a lot of people have been fed from decree media and that. we know that. but people not always know how to do the right choices for themselves. >> justin, how will you feel? >> what can you do? you have to accept the outcome. but i think this is an opportunity for the masses, because it's very clear the only support that trump has is the masses. not the media, not the

corporations, not the democratic or republican establishment. if the masses, the people, speak up, and we really can get him elected. if we don't, we'll have let the -- the establishment win. it will be sad. i'll be worried about the future of the world. the security of the world. the security of this country. the security of my family. the security of innocent people all over the world that are dealing with very, very dangerous people that want to do damage to us. >> that was nbc and telemundo anchor, jose diaz ballard talking in aventura, florida. who benefits the most from this, and who the real loser is in this scenario? hear from our political strategists, next. all finish.

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information about its review of e-mails that may be related to the investigation into her private server. clinton says the american people deserve to have as much information as possible before they vote. the fbi announced it was reviewing newly discovered e-mails. the messages were discovered during a federal investigation of anthony weiner, the soon to be ex-husband of long-time clinton aide, huma abedin. donald trump wasted no time pouncing on this last night at a rally in des moines, iowa. he's expected to take the stage in about 30 minutes from now in golden, colorado. nbc's jacob rascon is there. jacob, what do we expect to hear from him today? >> reporter: you know, i haven't seen, sheinelle, his supporters as excited as this in a long time. a lot of the trump supporters don't believe the polls, but you could tell in talking to them, many were beginning to doubt whether he could win. whether they blamed the media, whatever they blame. but everybody is all smiles, and they are just excited about this news. and one interesting thing i

found in talking to many of his supporters here was that many of them tell me their faith in the member may be restored a little bit. many tell me after the conclusion of the fbi earlier this summer, there was no criminal wrongdoing. that they lost faith in the fbi, really truly believing that there was criminal wrongdoing. believe me, we have a quick bit of sound to play of my interaction of one of these supporters. you had lost faith in the fbi. >> yes. most of these three-letter -- basically, go in and clean up the crime scene. even with 9/11, they went in and hide the evidence, won't let people look at if. if you can rob banks and somebody would come in bliehind you, that's what our organizations are doing. >> reporter: so we expect donald trump to do what he did yesterday, which is right off the top, talk about how he has respect for the courage, he will say, of the fbi to, right a wrong.

he says maybe now justice will prevail. he is lock in step with his supporters there. and this is a fresh breath of air for many who were beginning, as i said, to doubt whether he was truly on his way to win. >> nbc's jacob rascon, i think you're right. the energy is jumping through the screen there with all of those red hats. i think you're right. thank you, jacob. let's bring in susan del percio, republican strategist and founder of susan del percio strategies, and contributor at the huffington post. let's dig in. i always find it fascinating when jacob talks to folks at the rallies. this almost seems like this gave trump a lifeline. >> thi is something that will definitely motivate his base reporters and help him on turnout. republicans were supporting him in the 82% number. i think that this is going to hit hard with a lot of republicans who were wavering and said maybe i'll vote for her or maybe just won't vote to vote against her. it will help to get up to the

90%. the question, is that enough to make a difference. >> so peter, he compares this, says it's bigger than watergate. was that the right move? if you're in the trump campaign, what's his move here? what does he need to do? >> he's been harping on the election being rigged from day one. my point is, we don't have to worry about putin and the russians. we have got director comey. and i fear that his attempt to save his reputation, really, it seems with a few congressional committees in the house is now besmirched the reputation in general. i've talked to people in the fbi and they feel their integrity is under attack. >> i think the public opinion of the fbi, while questionable during this election cycle, it should not -- we should not forget what these men and women do every day for our country. they serve at the highest level. so i certainly don't lose faith in them. i think director comey was probably concerned about leaks happening, because there was a lot of concern in the ranks that

enough -- how he handled the investigation initially with hillary clinton. and that there were leaks he was worried about. so he was in an impossible situation. but i wouldn't go towards judging the agency by one person. >> with that said, though, what do you think? should he speak to try to clarify this? we have been talking all afternoon about the fact it's almost created this vacuum. if you don't get people facts, they make them up or assume the worst. >> i think he should. i don't think he can. >> you don't think he can. >> i don't think he can. i think the hole is so deep for him. and if i might just say, in some ways, i don't think the republicans can gloat entirely over this. there's often been the description of clinton supporters as being somewhat unenthusiastic. i think this is going to drive them to the polls. >> you think this will drive who to the polls? >> the clinton supporters to say we're as upset as the trump people are in believing the election is rigged. now we've got an entity of the u.s. government interfering in a presidential election. >> and the question is, what do the independents do there? and that's a big question.

going to your point about comey. there is no time for him to really do anything. and -- >> even to clarify? >> what is there to clarify? he doesn't have the answer. he is saying there are e-mails out there. basically he said that i had to ademocrat with the congress the status of the investigation. we found these e-mails, we don't know what they are. i need to investigate. that's the information there. i mean, he has not said where the e-mails were found. that was based on sourcing. going forward, the question i have, can trump stay on this message for ten days and not make it about him again. if it's about him, she wins. if it's about her -- >> i'm sure you're saying, look, bud -- >> happens every week. >> maybe the fury in their eyes will be more intense. we talked about the democratic campaign since 1972. big picture. how did we get to this point on the e-mail server question? can you explain it? this is -- insane.

>> it's obviously, had she disclosed from the beginning, we wouldn't necessarily be right here. but we have to remember, there has been decades-long attempts to derail both the president clinton and hillary clinton's ambitio ambitions. so at this point, i'm -- i suspect that the house committees are going to look to get permission to build prefab housing on the white house lawn as soon as hillary clinton -- >> if she would have just disclosed it first. that's really not the fundamental problem. the fundamental problem was, why did she have to have a private server, and what did she have -- why did she want to hide what she was doing, in her work in the state department? that's the fundamental problem. >> the others have had a private server. >> no one was -- excuse me. others have had a private e-mail account, a gmail account. no one had a private server. >> can we have this discussion right here on msnbc, and let's say nothing else happens, right? comey doesn't fill the vacuum, no more information. what do you think as far as the outcome of the election?

will this affect the outcome, ultimately, in your opinion? >> i think it's -- hillary clinton, it's still hillary clinton's to win. what she'll probably do now is not look to expand the map. at one point she was planning on arizona. but, for example, she may just double down in florida. if she can stop trump in florida or north carolina, there are several states. if she just -- or ohio. if she can stop him from getting one of those states, it basically secures her the math for the electro owe. >> we tap-dance between trump supporters being theus and had motivated. hillary clinton supporters being enthused and motivated. nobody can predict -- >> i've been doing this for 40 years. get out the vote. that's it. nothing more than get out the vote. he basically has no operation. the republican national committee has some very successful operations on the ground in certain states. they don't have the bandwidth. and i'm beginning to get a sense, because i was thinking about it this morning, this may be the republicans' mcgovern. mcgovern was drawing huge crowds

until the very end. until the very end, and only won one state, if i remember correctly. >> and one other thing to consider. the get out the vote has also been a get out the vote in early voting. >> 15 million votes, 17 this morning. that will go advantage clinton. they have a strong ground operation. >> and moving forward, for james comey, has he just been thrown under the bus here? >> no, he's thrown himself under the bus. >> fair enough. >> please. >> you know what, what about for people who say, he was between a rock and a hard place and felt like he didn't have a choice? >> the thing with comey is that you have to go back. if he had that press conference, which was so not traditional -- granted, the democrats at that point thought he was brilliant. then he released the notes of the investigation. again, another thing that was so untraditional. then -- granted, i don't think anyone saw that investigating anthony weiner's sexting scandal would lead to hillary clinton and no one saw that coming. but, again, now he took a step

that is very untraditional in that you don't talk about ongoing investigations. you don't even admit there is an investigation. so that's the -- those are the three things that i think really stand out when you look at his tenure and how he's handled this case. >> but if he's alone with himself -- how will history look at me. after the fact, and then people would say, some of the trump supporters -- see, we told you. >> he's not worried about what history thinks of you, it's doing what you think is right. >> that was my point. i think he made the judgment that he was going to save himself with the cohouse congressional committees prior to the election as a short-term gain. the problem is, it's robbed america. it's robbed america of fairness. because people on both sides are going to say, as a result of this intervention, that was not just untraditional, it's basically breaks all of the rules. all the mandates from department of justice included, that this was not just unfair, but this was a travesty.

and americans -- american voters are the people who lose on this. >> and what would have been a stellar career to literally this summer. >> ten more days. you can't write this stuff. great discussion this afternoon. all right. the latino vote in nevada. what to make of polls that some voters say may be supporting republicans. and in our next hour, legal perspective on new clinton e-mails. what happens if she is indicted and what her options are before and after the election.

. right now, a live look at a campaign event in las vegas. vice president joe biden, something for hillary clinton and his crucial swing state. he is set to take the stage within the hour. >> and a poll this week found donald trump and hillary clinton tied in nevada. look at this. the same poll for the critical senate race showed republican joe heck leading democrat kathryn cortes masto, 49-42. let's talk about this. joining me hieidi harris, a trup

supporter. good day to you. >> hi, good morning. >> let's start with asking you first about the news of the fbi reviewing hillary clinton's e-mails. how will this resonate with your listeners? >> i think it will be interesting to see. the people who love her don't really care what she does. the people who don't love her already think she is rotten. what's scary, we don't know what's in those e-mails. it could be nothing. what's scary to me, huma abedin gave her husband access to her computer. this is a guy who can't be trusted on the internet, obviously. i would never have shared a computer with him. to me, that's speaks to her judgment, regardless of what's in the e-mails. >> if i stick to hillary clinton here, since she is the one running for election. let's move on to the latest poll numbers in the latino voting in your state. this is getting a lot of attention. that poll shows latino voters leaning republican. look at this. latino voters shifting to trump and moving away from the first latina ever elected to the u.s. senate. what do you make of these outcomes? >> it is pretty interesting. i think a lot of latinos --

traditionally a lot go democrat in nevada. but this year, they're listening to what trump is saying about jobs. and even though he said some things that were kind of derogatory about latinos in certain situations which i'm not defending. a lot are looking at jobs and say hey, he's speaking about jobs in america. it is interesting they wouldn't go through a kathryn cortes masso because a lot are mad at joe heck from backing away from donald trump when his comments on tape came out. so it's fascinating to watch nevada this year. >> the latino vote under represented this polls in your state like with harry reid in 2010, 16 polls showed his latino support at 55-70%. and reid won latino voters by 90% margin. what is the nature of the latino vote in your state? more to what you were saying, we may not like the way his tone was when he talked about hispanics, but ultimately it's about the jobs, or how would you categorize it here? >> i think it depends on whether or not people are union members.

because the culinary union is huge, 60,000 members at southern nevada, a lot of hotel workers, people like that and those folks tend to vote democrat. but not necessarily. this year they're listening to trump and looking at the jobs situation, and they probably are not polled as much as as they could be and maybe it's because some people don't want to take the phone calls. or maybe they're suspicious about pollsters. so to your point, probably a lot of them are underpolled. >> so you mentioned the workers, let's talk about the economy in nevada. right now unemployment at 5.8%, down from a post recession high of 13.7%. the national rate, by the way, hovered around 9.4%. what's the overall sense from your listeners? is the economy still the issue that matters most? >> i think it's one of the issues that matters most, and in nevada, the difference is that the unemployment rate is down lower, which is very nice. but when you look at how people are faring versus how they were in 2008, they may have a job now, but they don't have anywhere near the money in the bank, if any. they don't have the equity in their houses. they're not making the money

they were making in 2008. so those are factors that are not addressed by an unemployment rate alone. that's what a lot of people are looking at. they don't feel like they're whole and where they were eight years ago. >> heidi >> thank you for talking with us. good information. october surprises with an "s." one guest who says we are in for more stunners the closer we get to election day.

there isn't one trump voter out there who is going to stay home as a result of this. they're going to run to the polls and do the proverbial crawl through broken glass to get there secretary clinton support much thinner. damaged by the obamacare premium explosions. so many october surprises. i don't think we're done on either side. lots more is going to happen. i'm sure the clinton campaign kept the very best opo on donald

trump for last. >> one of the most vocal republican voices predicting earlier today even more october surprises in the next ten days after the fbi's announcement. joining me is opinion editor at forbes. he's a former advisor to the romney 2012 campaign on health care. thank you for talking with me today. let's deal with one october surprise at a time, if you will. with at least 17 million votes already cast. polls during the summer showing voters had already made up their minds about the e-mail question. how much of a game-changer is this really? especially when we consider undecided voters? >> obviously, we don't know the severity or seriousness of what the fbi is looking at. it is a weird thing to be in a situation where you could have a president-elect under criminal investigation with the fbi. that's never happened. there is a feeling out there that one of the criticisms of hillary clinton is there are certain rules for elite politicians, certain rules for everybody else. the feeling is if this were

anybody else doing what hillary clinton had done, that person would be in jail. >> with that said in the last hour i spoke with a former public anti-trump republican steve lonigan. he told me he is now backing donald trump. do you see others turning to trump more so with this e-mail question again? >> well, you see that movement in the polls. donald trump's support from republican voters has been relatively low for republican nominee. that's starting to inch up as we get closer to election day. so that may be what we are seeing with steve and some others. i do think donald trump is such a polarizing ndidate. there are a lot of republicans because of his liabilities aren't eager to vote for him. that's a disadvantage for him. >> we don't know the content of these e-mails. donald trump is comparing this to the watergate scandal, but with so little information, is there a chance donald trump could be overplaying his hand

here in this? >> again, when you don't know what's going on, it's easy to speculate. that's why i think the clinton campaign said let's have the fbi put all the information out there. they are hoping that's less damaging to them than the speculation. that's why they are frustrated by this. again, the problem with hillary clinton all along has been from bernie sanders to today, there have been a lot of democrats and independent voters who don't trust her. if she does win in a couple of weeks, that's going to be a challenge for her as president. she has to work through a lot of these scandals. the e-mails are going to continue to come out over the next several months and years. >> what is your take director comey could have waited and pressure from republicans played into his decision, or do you think was pressure? >> i think he's under the microscope so much, he knew if he were to do this just before the election, he would get a lot of criticism for politics so i seriously doubt that was the reason. i think he particularly when the

last time around he decided not to prosecute, i think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's doing what he thinks is right. >> thank you for talking with me today. >> that will do it for me this hour. i'm sheinelle jones. at the top of the hour my colleague katy tur live in golden, colorado, where donald trump is set to speak. stunning news after the fbi announced it's reviewing more e-mails related to hillary clinton's personal server. ♪ ♪ ♪ onhose w dare ive theworlforwd. new cars.

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