goodday to you. welcome to new york and welcome to "pulse of america" where your thoughts can be heard. and moments ago hillary clinton was campaigning in florida and her campaigners are demanding more details from james comey after the the unusual disclosure friday regard iing the newly

disclo disclosed e-mails found in the case. and now, donald trump is in arizona, and he is new ammunition when he got proof that premiums of insurance will skyrocket next year. and we will have ask you and this is a fun one, what is the hottest political costume will be this year. now, as we are going to kikt off, i want to give you a quick note on how to pulse. you take your phone or laptop and grab on to the phone and go to our website and then you can participate with the responses that we will have throughout the hour and you can vote for as many times as you want at pulse.msnbc.com/america. and so as we are looking at the demographicsb you can see how

people are are thinking about the issues. the first poll of the day, do you think that the revelation of the fbi finding new e-mails is going to impact the outcome of the election? and today, fbi director james comey are facing pressure from both democrats and republicans to give more information about the information that he said the bureau now had. and sources tell us that comey is unlikely the provide the additional details with nine days left before the election. the washington post is reporting that the fbi agents knew about the recovered e-mails for weeks before briefing comey. and moon while, the other bombshell story that if you have not heard about that you need to, yahoo sclm news is report nag the fbi is still in the process of getting information about the e-mails in question and they have not read them at all. we will have the writer of that

story on, and trump was seizing on the news and hitting longtime clinton the aide huma abedin and her husband anthony weiner. and clinton the says that she does not have access to the e-mails on which the. mails were found according to the fbi. and all of this of course as they question comey's approach. >> he knows nothing about the content of the e-mails and whether they are the to or from hillary at all, and so this is a distraction. >> if they are not significant, they are not significant, and maybe he took the first step of having looked at a them before he did this in the middle of the presidential campaign, and so close to the voting. >> and to send the letter to congress to say that we may have information or we don't know whether it is significanter or not, and without looking at what is inside there, and, you know, 10 or 11 days before the presidential e e llection is

curious. >> well, it may be curious, but we have curious reporters here to el help with us the angles. kasie hunt, and gad di -- gadi schwartz. and i have the as ssistant director coming to join thus hour, and we will get into the law and the substance. i want to go to you on the politics, how does the clinton campaign deal with this politically while trying to eventually try to get off of the topic? >> well, ari, i think that you is seen it play out over to the course of the last 48 hours, and the response to this on offense. she went out to do the press conference late friday and she mentioned it at the rally yesterday in daytona beach saying that comey owes it to the american public to say more about what exact ly it is that they have found or not found on this new laptop. and today, you have seen her

walk away from the issue almost entirely, and she did seem to allude to it when she stopped earlier at an african-american church and we can't get distract and we have to move forward and this is the image that she is trying to project on the campaign trail today. and it feels like from the mechanical and logistical point of view, and it feels like any campaign day, and if anything, she has made more stops than she normally does, and several what we refer to off of the record appearances meaning that we don't know if they are going to be happening ahead of time and she has done four of those today, a and she hassed a rally today talkinging to the lgbt community at wilton manor with a large lgbt community and so they are trying to stick to the game plan and not let it throw them off course, and we have not seen huma abedin on the trail, and she is typically with hillary clinton, and it is going to be interesting to see if she decides to come back out early in the week, but for them, and

r robby mook talked to chuck todd today about it earlier on "meet the press" hey, do you think it will cost them the election, and he said, no, i don't think so. that is the vibe from the sources, and certainly a bump in the road, but at this point, this late in the game, it is not something derailing the campaign right now, ari. >> that is an interesting interview, and of course, it would have been weird if robby said, yes, we will lose the election over this. >> and yes, my reporting is bearing out the sense that when you are on the phone with the clinton aides, it does not feel like the world is ending and certa certainly negative stories and panic mode, and clearly they were taken by surprise, but i think that they have processed it and figured out how to move forward wit, and they don't believe in the end it is a fundamental change for the course of this race. >> right. and the politics might align with the facts there and it is a an open question of the there is a there, there, and that is why there is so much conversation

there. and gaudy schwartz what is going on there in the trumpland? >> well, it does not matter, because this is reinforcing what trump has told them all along that the system is rigged. before this rally started, one supporter said that it is like the fbi had given them christmas in october. even though trump's, this war on the spin seems to be kind of the nudging in trump's direction in this, and he continued to build on the idea that it is a rigged system. today, he talked about the little bit about the belief that this is collusion between the clintons and the justice department to protect hillary clinton from this investigation, and the only person that he really thanked was anthony weiner. take a listen. >> i have a feeling that they have just found a lot of them, don't you think? i have a feeling.

huma -- they just found a lot of them. we never thought that we were going to say thank you to anthony weiner. >> that is trump a while ago. yesterday, he was talking about his belief that there was a revolt inside of the fbi u office, and no conclusive proof of it, but that is what he believed brought the letter forward today, and we did not hear that from him, but we heard him ramping up the idea that the system is still rigged. of course, this is an impossible situation, and impossible position to defend against, because as we know there is very little public information on this, and there is very little public information on most likely going to be forthcoming from the fbi, because they have very seldomly divulge what they are investigating and so

hyperbole wins the day here, and trump supporters are hoping that extends to the polls. ari? >> thank you, gadi schwartz. and there is a saying in hip-hop that says act like you know, and sometimes you to pretend that you know more, and gx adi schwartz is saying that some trump support ers don't know th facts, but they feel. and some supporters of clinton say they don't know anything, but the letter itself seems as a political matter to invite this kind of speculation, because it was so vague. >> and this is the point that you are seeing made, ari n a rare point of agreement on both sides of the aisle from republicans and democrats they want more information. and the republicans are hoping that it will show that clinton re really did do something wrong and confirm their suspicion, and the democrats are hoping to prove that she did not, and so that is what it has come down to, and now it is james comey

under fire. and what it does on the republican side, and talking about the gut that gadi talked about from the supporters and the idea that you will see from the trump campaign is the idea of what some people feel about hillary clinton and the news coming out in the last 72 hours. kellyanne conway talked about this this morning. listen. >> for the voters, at this stage, it plays into the reluctance of hillary clinton anyway and issues that she has put the national security at risk for the peevish personal reasons is is troubling for her. do people trust her to tell the truth and whole truth? and the entire career is hillary first, and our message is america first. >> that is the message where gadi is and at the other two rallies and where he is for the rest of the week. >> and obviously, the campaigns have been doing the backflips about whether he is the best or the worst fbi director ever, and this is a more bipartisan

official who say that he is damaging democracy and they are arguing that the attorney dep the deputy general is way out over his skis and any tack that he is taking is invited by the conduct and no place for the fbi. on the politics though, do you believe that the clinton campaign wants to spend the closing days trying to make the argument to americans about jim comey who is still not a household name? >> well, they don't want to, ari, but they are put in a position that they don't have to and that is the most effective strategy moving forward and the fact that he is going to be puttinging a stem on it, and that is going right to the stump on the campaign trail. >> thank you to all of you. we will see you again soon. i want to go again into the politics of this and nine days to go and liz smith, former

deputy strategists, and flores, the former campaign manager for carly furn lly fiorina, and i that donald trump expands it out the bribe, and there is no evidence to, but in fairness to his side of the argument fact free, and i want to play that and get your response. here is trump. >> she was thinking of reappointling attorney general lynch. she said it. it was a statement that she made, and effectively, i guess that you would call it a bribe. effectively? how could she say that they are going to be making a decision on her, and you are talking about reappoint? she said it publicly, i believe. >> and so, sarah, that attack from donald trump on hillary clinton on a way to build on all of this, is that good politics? >> well, sure. the polls are tightening and the fbi had put their thumb on the scale in this election when bill

clinton met with attorney general lynch on that tarmac and tried to do it secretly and got out, but at the end of the day, we have made a lot about how the republicans nominated donald trump this candidate who could actually lose to hillary clinton but we have not talked about how democrats have nominated hillary clinton, the only person who could lose to the donald trump, and if you don't want the fbi involved, don't nominate somebody who is being investigated by the fbi. and so this is not a game changer in the election even though the polls are tightening. >> liz? >> sorry, i was laughing, because i agree with some of the things that sarah had to say there which is that i don't think that this is a game-changer, but, you know, it did appear that hillary clinton was coasting towards the comfortable victory and now that is definitely not going to be the case, and the problem for her campaign with this new announ

announcement is that it puts the focus squarely on her. and if this election is a referendum on hillary clinton, that is very bad news for her. she needs this to be a referendum on donald trump or at least a choice between hillary clinton and donald trump, because as unpopular as she is, he is more reviled by the american people. so i think that if i'm on the clinton campaign, that is my biggest concern right now. >> let me read a little bit on the substantive criticism, sarah, from the op-ed that i mentioned earlier from two d.o.j. officials from both par i s and they say that we have real time raw tape transparency taken to the illogical limit and a reality tv of a criminal investigation, and worst of all, it is happening on the eve of the presidential election, and that is their view of what comey has done. >> yes, and no. comey was in a terrible position. he had testified before congress that he was done reviewing e-mails and more e-mails are put on his desk through this anthony weiner investigation.

i am an attorney, and i would take the obligation seriously and not the have post purest pu myself. and he could have not continued without updating congress. i doubt that he wanted to be in the position, and i doubt it will seriously affect the election, but hillary clinton is the one who put him in this position by meeting with attorney general lynch on the tarmac in july and none of this would have been an issue except for her secret server and if anything, we should feel particularly bad for huma abedin and she is at the center, but it is because of the secret service server being protected by the secret service, and so at the end of the day, she can't blame lynch huma or anybody, but

herself. >> and when she puts it like that, she is more cogent like donald trump, and it is meant as a compliment, and irresponsible and never found to be criminal choices that hillary clinton found, and final question, liz, and on the numbers here in the abc tracking poll, and they only give you a snapshot, but basically, does it change the probe of how people feel, and you have 34% of the people saying that it is less likely to support hillary, and the bigger number of the people, 63% saying, actually, no difference. >> right. because it is baked in. you'd have to be living under a rock to not know about her e-mail scandal and to have not formed an opinion about it, and if you don't know about her e-mails, you are probably not going to be voting in november, so that is why the political impact could be limited, but to say ra's point, and there must

be something in the water, because i am agreeing with so much of what with you are s saying. >> liz, bipartisan mind meld. >> and i think that it is a little bit irresponsible how it is handled, and it is irresponsible of the fbi agents who were sitting on the fbi agents who were sitting on this for weeks, and it is irresponsible of director comey to go out on friday to go out with the vaguely-worded letter without knowing anything about what is in the e-mails. >> and that is the big question, and we will explore that, because we have fbi folks coming on and did he try to do the prudent thing but in an imprudent way. so we will pause here on this segment. thank you, both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and do you think at home that the revelation of the newly discovered e-mails will impact the outcome of the e heck shun. and republicans here, we are seeing disagree, 84/16, and 84/16 is the total. the next slide, what do we have?

republicans moving from agree to neutral in the correspondent panel there, and the breakdown, you can see it, democrats are strongly towards the disagree, and the independents are neutral and disagree in the panel. on gender, women are disagreeing more strongly than men that this is going to impact the outcome of the election, and so we have women strongly disagreeing over the panel, and 22-78, and keep you posted on what else you have to say. and now, we will talk about the timing of this e-mail revolution which hillary clinton called strange. and so do you believe that the fbi needs to release more information on the e-mails. give your response to msnb msnbc.com/america. infini qx3crv.

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>> welcome back to "pulse of america." i'm ari in new york. do you believe that the fbi needs to release more information about the newly discovered e-mails? and now this is after the shock of director comey's letterer, and what some people say is an unprecede unprecedented move. some officials close to the situation say that while the doj did not prohibit the fbi from sending the letter to congress, it advised against it. and some believe that director comey then defied eric holder when confronted with political ties he said that we have to be sensitive to keep the department's reputation for fairness, neutrality and nonpartisanship. and now o, joining us is a cyber

security expert, doug burns, a prosecutor in new york where he overlapped with loretta lynch and a registered republican. and now, good day to both of you and starting with the fbi, was this letter well conceived in what it said and what does it mean that at lot of what it didn't say was immediately leaked apparently in unauthorized way by fbi agents? >> well, it is troubling that the information is getting out that is not authorized. i think that director comey going forward to congress, because he felt that he had previo previously told them that 23 he were to come across additional information, he would make sure that it was brought before congress and he had made the testimony previously, and he felt that in finding the new e-mails he had the to do that. we have seen the impact on the election in that certain people on both sides are using this as an opportunity to get a message out. >> yes or no. you think that he should have sent the letter for the reason that you stated? >> i think that he was in a

difficult situation and maybe an opportunity to talk to people in congress without sending the letter or ensuring that the letter not be leaked. >> should he have sent the letter, doug? >> well, only if he were not going to be disseminating the letter. >> and counselor, let me rephrase the question. should he have sent the letter knowing what we know with what has happened with the letter? >> absolutely not. and number one, you are not supposed to be talking about an ongoing investigation, and you cannot take action within 60 days within an e llection as it might affect that election, and so it is a real head scratcher, and why in the world would you put it out there particularly, and it is interesting and for me, it is completely bipartisan and legally unnecessary. why would you put a letter out, and there is new information and we have not reviewed it or read it. >> and this is the most curious part, they have heard from the multiple federal prosecutors who say that the director was in a hard spot, and it is congress who put him in the spot by having him come down to testify

under oath, and he chose to speak, and then he had to update the speech, if you will, but the let ser so vague, and cryptic, and here is a former d.o.j. official, and democrat, and he said, he did not provide congress or the public with any substantive information and he allowed enough information to allow speculative information about clinton, but not enough for her to defend herself, and you have prosecuted many a case, doug, and there is a case there? >> well, i have said it before and right now, from the political standpoint, he needs to say, this is what we do or do not have, and from the criminal law standpoint, the answer is no, you don't, because imagine me calling up a pros ecutor monday and you that he that investigation that we are n i want you to the immediately disseminate all of the information about my climate. they will laugh in my face. >> there real precedents about how you do that and in fairness to what director comey long said before this friday explosion here, and let's play here for

your response, director comey saying, yes, it is different and it had to be different and he says above board about that. >> right. >> this is going to be an unusual statement in the at least a couple of ways. first, i am going to include more detail about the process than i ordinarily would, because i believe that the american people need those details in a case of intense public interest. and second, i have not coordinated this statement or reviewed it in any way with the department of justice or any other part of the government. >> so, sean, he was saying that he did it differently and would be doing it differently, and this time, he apparently coordinated with the d.o.j. and they did not bless it, but it is the d.o.j. and nominally his leader, and that they would make the charging decision anyway. >> and so in this case, he determined that he had to go back to congress and make this revelation. i think that there are two

things for the american public to understand. fir first of all the fact that there are additional e-mails out there mean nothing. what i am hearing people say, this is implying that secretary clinton is guilty of something, and the fact that it is out there, and there is an actual investigation and they kronting to the look at e-mails does imply some sense of inproprietary which requires them to go as quick ly as possible and are resolve this. >> and how do you know that the e.t mails that the fbi has not read would imply impropriety. >> well, the fact that he went to the congress to say that, that implies impropriety and many of the republicans have come forward to say, this is a problem, and implies guilt. it is not the case. the fact that there is -- >> not the case? >> it certainly does not imply guilt, but it says that we came across additional information and we have to look at it and review it as part of the investigative process, but that

in and of itself does not mean anything, and that is the very reason that the fbi does not talk about ongoing criminal case, because the fact that there is information out there, and the gap that the american people or the public are filling. >> and the other thing that i want to fill really quick is that everybody is saying that the fbi is over here and here is the doj and the fbi is part of the department of justice. and so that the director of the fbi reports to deputy attorney general and other officials. >> so as the kids would say -- >> well, he gave a prez in atation not only does he report or get his review from them, but he said in his words he did not coordinate at all and not only as an agent who does the research he spoke that there was not effectively a case. >> and now you are on the something which is, what happens in the day-to-day case and what is happening in the highly, highly unusual case with a presidential candidate running for office. two completely different discussions. >> briefly?

>> i think that the fbi and the department of justice do coordinate regularly and i have been an investigate ta or the for over 24 years and i work hand in hand with the attorneys, and i think that the director felt that what happened on the tarmac, he came forward to make a unilateral decision, and regardless of whether it is right or wrong, it has played into the hands of what we are seeing here, and the resolution is that the fbi has to come out the identify what is there and put it on the table. >> and before the election? >> and it has to come out before the election because there is a gap, and hole, and if it is not filled, people are left to their own device, and it is very reason, a ri, that the fbi never comes out to talk publicly about the case, and the fact that there is a case implies guiltings, and that is not the case here. >> and shawn henry, and doug burns, thank you both. we will have a breakdown on what you have been voting here on the second question. do you think that the newly discovered e-mails will impact the election. and during the conversation,

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now is this going to be an affordable option for americans or will they face steeper and steeper rate increases, and so we want to ask you that it is worth more to pay for obamacare to cut the number of insured in this country. and let us know what you think and first from tom costello of nbc. >> reporter: occupational therapist sarah says she is caught in the middle. she needs the obamacare coverage offered in kentucky, but her insured is losing money in the state and pulling out. now, sarah has to choose a new kentucky plan and her premiums are likely to rise above her $340 a month payment. >> it is called the affordable care act, but it is not affordable for individuals such as myself, and either the premiums have to come down or i won't have health insurance. >> reporter: it is happening nationwide, and come january, 1 in 5 health care.gov customers are going to be increasing their

coverage. and up 116% in arizona, and pushing the premiums up, $50 to $350 a month in some cases, and the reason? while 3.4 million americans will be on obama care, most are sicker than expected. the healthier adults are opt ing to not take the coverage and pay the penalty. >> that means that the insurance pool pooler is smaller and gets a higher percentage of the older and sicker people signing up. >> reporter: and he says that americans will receive tax credits to offset the premiums, and people could find plans for less than $100 a month. >> most of the people enrolled are very low income people who are benefiting from the significant subsidies. >> and of course, a vast majority are insured through their employees and those

premiums are expected to rise 3 to 7%. tom kos costello in washington. >> and now, let's bring in our panel. perry, let's start with the big pictu picture. if you are rich or have a good job, this doesn't affect you sh, and you are probably okay with health care. and if you are really poor, this is a program that gave you effecti effectively a bunch of money through the government, and it is probably helping you even if you have a rough time. if you were in the middle, this is not going so well, and that is the big take away, and talk about while it is a small portion of the country, the people stuck in the proverbial middle. >> we are talking about the estimates of 8 to 9 million who get the insurance through the private insurance and they don't get it through their employer and they don't have tincome from medicaid and not old enough for medicare, and 8 to the 9 million people who are affected by the

premium increases directly, and that is now a small group, but it is a significant group of people, and that is the estimates that 20 million people overall have gained insurance in the last four or five year, and it is a big number, but 8 to 9 million who have to pay much more than they did before, and so some of of them have to pay much less, because they could not get insurance at all, but 8 to 9 million is not a huge group, but it is a significant group. >> and now, the basic question is that people at home may wonder when we say the 9 million people are quote on obamacare, what does that mean? >> it means they have signed up in their state for one of these 50 exchanges. each state has a health care exchange where if you don't have insurance through your employer, you can enroll through november to january and so it is a small population in the american public and it is about 10 million people this year in the exchange directly, and 7 million more people will buy the insurance in the private market,

and talking about 18 to 20 million people in the country of 320 million in our country. >> so, shane, part of the republican critique here is that it is not good that those people would effectively have to be poorer to get the better benefits, and the weakest part of the republican argument is that they seem to have no actual alternative whatsoever. >> yeah, and the problem for the democratic party here is that the health insurance premiums have been going up for years and years and because president obama rele forred the health care system, the democratic party more or less owns the premium increases, and they are going up badly especially for the folks in the exchanges that per i have talk about. >> and let me ask perry, because you said that there was a highway, and there were a lot of cars crashing and everybody agreed it is bad and came in to repaf the highway and now the

crashes are put at the government's doorstep and not the insurance companies? >> well, they are on democrat party's doorstep. >> this obama government? >> yes, and that is the reality. health care was broken and the administration came in and tried to fix it, and the fact that premiums did go down, and went up much more slowly in the last couple of years, but this year, spiking again, and the republican party is pointing to say, see, the system is broken. it is a challenge for democrats, and this is the risk they took to reform the system overall. >> this is joe biden making the case when asked if obama care is worth it or justified. >> there is a whole range of things that still justify it, but it is not as good as it should be, and it is not going to cause it to not cause it to function. >> where is this on the priority list of the new president? >> i think it is high on hillary's priority list assuming it is hillary. >> and shane, not to go over a

short sound bite, but he is not that strong on it. >> well, sits an issue that hillary clinton has to address and the tweaks are necessary as the segment showed. there are broad swathes of the country where people have a single insurer to choose from and if you don't have competition, you won't push the prices down, and so they have to make the changes in the coming congress, and the republicans in congress don't want to make any changes, because they want to repeal it, and they don't want tweaks and fixes, but they want to rip it out all of the way from the root. >> and perry, isn't that the core issue? there are things that from the policy level that you could do like insent more state participation or cost curbs by amending the legislation, but people think to help it at all is to undermine the core position of the majority which is to amend it? >> what is coming up is this bad

for the hillary or the democrats and the political election, but i don't believe it, because the views are divided bipartisan look. but this kind of news is going to make it hard to change the laws. and hillary clinton has some public option, and adding the subsidies for the people upper income, but not low income enough to get the subsidies they need to afford the insurance, and a lot of ideas on the table that experts would say it is going to make it more affordable, but the republicans don't want to pass any of those, and my sense from the news is that it is going to be easier if hillary clinton wins to oppose the changes. >> perry and shane, you helped me to understand how this could work and why it won't happen, and sometimes that is what the news is like. happy sunday and thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> and now for you at home, how are you voteing on the third question of the day. agree or disagree it is worth paying more for obama care to cut the number of uninsured.

and voters 25 to 34 were disagreeing about that and the other ages were saying it is wort it. as for the political par i, the we were shown that republicans are neutral, and the democrats are breaking it down with 15% disagreeing there on the graph, and then finally, the flow overall, and little bit of the volatility as you are pulsing throughout the different parts of the conversation, and we a appreciate you participating. and up next, and this is the final number, 77-23. 77% saying, yep, if we are cutting the number of uninsure and people are getting coverage who before had knot, it is worth it even though the costs are up which we reported is a problem for obamacare. and now, up next, it is not all politics or fbi, but we will have some fun, too, and what is the hottest political costume going to be this halloween. you can make your choice heard by going to

pulse.msnbc.com/america, and several real costumes there. and in the next hour we will have independent presidential candidate edward mcmullin who is offering people a third option.

welcome back for our last and clearly most important "pulse" question of the day. it's the halloween spirit with all the fodder from this political season, we want to know what you think the hottest political costumes are this year. you may have heard there's ken bone, the unlikely breakout star of the presidential debate. look how cute that is. single-handedly causes a fight in all of the red sweater sales around the country. bill clinton and his love for balloons. remember the convention? people are doing that. you can hide your phones and laptops because we're going to see, i bet you, a lot more russian hackers walking around tomorrow for this halloween. for your vote today, we're going to give you the same choice of today's presidential race, donald trump's infamous wall, which people have done and could stop you from, you know, getting across the border or the

proverbial halloween border, or the hillary clinton private e-mail server. it's all in good fun, you guys. don't get excited. you could be the server. tell us now, which will be the hottest political costume in your view? go to msnbc.com/america and the results will be right after a quick break.

welcome back to our halloween edition of "the pulse." let's see how you voted. we had the trump wall and the hillary clinton server. we're going to get to the results. perry bacon, i know this is your favorite part of being in the television business is this kind of polling discussion. what do you think of the costumes? >> they were well done. ill not have thought of the hillary server. that was well done, particularly. as an idea, i wonder what kind of halloween party you go to with the server, but anyway, hopefully one in d.c. full of people with 538.

>> the server is arguably scary to democrats who want that all to end, that topic and investigation, and scary to republicans who feel it is a terrible thing. but the wall is currently winning, perry, 59-41. this is a real thing. we just report because you had people going to these trump rallies dressed as -- i saw one, not as good as that. i saw a little more of a low red wall at a new hampshire rally. have you ever seen a wall in person? >> i have not seen the wall at one of the events. i'm disappointed. i have ten days left so i hope i catch one. >> i think it goes to the fact, there it is, trump -- look, trump speaks in very clear imagery. he is an easier inspiration for costumes, some of them of course might be inappropriate, but that's the inspiration. the trump wall winning our very important poll. we thank perry bacon for being a good sport both on the nuances of interstate health insurance policy and also halloween.

>> my second expertise. >> thank you, sir. have a good halloween. thanks for watching. more coming up at the top of the hour. i will be here. donald trump hitting hillary clinton hard on her state department e-mails, democrats demanding more information from the fbi about the newly discovered e-mails. and michael isikoff from yahoo!, he broke the story everyone is talking about today that the fbi has not read those e-mails yet. and i'll have an interview with independent presidential candidate evan mcmullin about his final strategy, the states he's in play, and how his independent bid could impact or depress donald trump's election prospe prospects. that's straight ahead. ♪ othroadgain [ re ale snds ] [ music stops ] just n't t on the ragain ♪ [ frt assistnds ][ mustop] ♪the adgain ♪ like a bandf gypsies we gdown the hhway♪ [ beetle horn hos ] no matter whh passat you c cose,

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