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ooh. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again sunday night at 9:00. sunday night at 9:00. msnbc live is next. good saturday morning, everyone, i'm in new york at msnbc world headquarters. at 7:00 a.m. in the east, 4:00 a.m. out west, three days to writing history, election day is just around the corner. >> we have unfinished business to do, more barriers to break. and with your help, a glass ceiling to crack once and for all! >> star power. hillary clinton making her final pitch with beyonce and jay-z in hopes of getting out the vote. i'm here all by myself. i am here all by myself.
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just me. no guitar. no piano. no nothing. >> going to alone. donald trump in a battleground blitz that includes ten different states in the last weekend. but that counteract the clinton ground game? historic numbers. it's the last day of early voting. but there's plenty to learn from what's already taken place. we'll look at that, and a look at the final poll numbers and the too the path to victory for both candidates. we'll look at that right here on msnbc, the place for politics. with just 72 hours until election day, the candidates and their key surrogates are barnstormi barnstorming battleground states for 16 events, and that's just today alone. donald trump will be chris carrotsing the country -- criss-crossing the country traveling to florida, north
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carolina, nevada, and colorado. mike pence will be in virginia and michigan. and on the democratic side, vice president joe biden holding two events in his home state of pennsylvania. bernie sanders traveling to iowa and colorado. chelsea in north carolina. hillary clinton and her running mate tim kaine both in florida for a total of four stops develop the two of them. clinton will then travel to philadelphia where she'll meet up with katy perry for a concert. now this came one day after she shared the stage with jay-z and beyonce who headlined their own concert for her in cleveland. >> when i see them here, this passion and energy and intensity, i don't know where to begin because this is what america is, my friends. we have a woman who is an inspiration to so many others. i thank her.
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and i thank jay for addressing in his music some of our biggest challenges in the country. poverty, racism, the urgent need for criminal justice reform. at a rally in pennsylvania last night, donald trump schrader his take on clinton -- shared his take on clinton's powerhouse endorsements. >> i hear we set a new record for this building. and by the way, i didn't have to bring j. lo or jay-z, the only way she gets anybody. to have a better relationship with most of those countries. they don't respect us, they don't respect obama. he's like a cheerleader jumping up and down for hillary clinton. he shouldn't be doing that. he shouldn't be with her. he's got to be working. for a second time this week, president obama was in north carolina. he sat down with my colleague, al sharpton, for an interview where he drilled home the power of each vote. >> i want north carolina in -- i
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won north carolina in '08 by two votes per precinct. two votes per precinct. and so this notion that your vote doesn't count -- fact of the matter is you might be one of those two votes that changes the direction of american history. >> let's bring in msnbc's casey hunt, she's in pembroke pines, florida, the site of clinton's rally later today. good to have you with us. as i was talking earlier, tim kaine will be in florida, as well as donald trump. talk to us a little about how tight the race has become there, and are you able to glean from any early voting data which side has the advantage thus far? >> reporter: from an anecdotal perspective, i feel as though i have spent most of the time traveling in the last couple of weeks here in florida. and that tells you how close the race is and how important it is to both candidates. it's almost impanel it seems for
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-- it's almost impossible it seems for donald trump to get to the 270 electoral college votes he needs without florida. hillary clinton could potentially afford to lose it, although that means she'd have to run the table elsewhere. but they have been so focused here on turning out particularly latino and african-american voters, and that's really the challenge for democrats now. the numbers in the early voting seem to indicate a slight advantage for republicans compared to some previous years, which would put a little bit more pressure on the get out the vote operations on election day itself. i think for hillary clinton, she's going to be here today doing an an event in pembroke pines which is nearby, but she's relying on president obama who's visiting here several times recently. he talked a little bit to al sharpton in an interview. let's show you a little of that. >> i think a lot of people still
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can't believe that donald trump would be elected president. there may be a complacency setting in. and you know, the main thing that i've been trying to explain to people is that if you supported me in 2008tuat, in '1f you think i've done a good job, that michelle's done a good job, everything that we've done over the last eight years will be reversed with a trump presidency. everything will be sustained and built on with a hillary clinton presidency. >> reporter: there you heard him talking a little about complacency and how they is the main problem for democrats. when we were here with hillary clinton a couple of weeks ago, her campaign was riding high. she stopped by an adele concert nearby. then of course came the fbi news, the tightening polls. the mood has been a little bit more grim. grim may be going too far, but at least it is not quite as exciting as -- as excited as it
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had been at one point. they're grinding it out at this point. fundamentally they feel they're likely to win this race, but it does seem more challenging today than it did a few weeks ago. >> all right, kasie hunt in pembroke pines, florida. let's cross to the other side to tampa where peter alexander has been following the trump campaign on its final push to election day. good to have you with us. thank you very much trump's got a -- trump's got a packed schedule, the next 48 hours or so. what does he need do in the final visits to nail his message home? >> reporter: in the last 24 hours or so, he's been focusing on the rural strategy. hitting places that mitt romney won four years ago, places that his aides recognize were red but need to be redder. he's targeting white, working class voters like in places like hershey, pennsylvania.
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he'll day doo t-- he'll do the in tampa. he has an aggressive schedule with ten stops in eight states over the next couple of days through monday. at this point, we're 72 hours out. donald trump's hitting so many states, it gives a sense that the campaign is still trying to figure out what's what its best path to 270 may be, struggling to sort that out. privately advisers to the campaign say they see glimmers of home in new mexico and nevada, in michigan. nevada one of the items, one of the places that donald trump is going to hit today as he tries to take advantage of a last-minute surge. >> do you get a sense that there's something that donald trump could accomplish in the remaining 72 hours or so before election day? is he going to win new voters this weekend, or is he trying to shore up support and get out the vote? >> reporter: it's not so much that he's trying to win. new voters are undecided voters. but he's trying to motivate people who would be inclined to
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vote for him that may have been disillusioned by politics in recent years. i was struck by a conversation i had a man in rural pennsylvania yesterday who told me his neighbor hasn't voted in years, has been frustrated with the political. is he was a trump-pence sign in his yard. he believes trump as an insurgent outsider. those are the additional votes trump is hoping to get. some critics suggest in smaller parts of the states there are only so many votes to get, that he should be pushing closer to the city centers, the suburbs. as we've noted over the course of the campaign, he does struggle with suburban, more moderate republicans, and that's why he seems to be pressing in on these specific areas. >> my colleague, peter alexander in tampa with the trump campaign. you'll be racking up a lot of miles in the next 48 to 72 hours. good luck. safe travels, my friend. join me, nbc's jane timm and senior political editor beth fooy.
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let me talk about the states that peter mentioned. what's the strategy, what can we conclude from the states that he's jam-packing in the final snow showers. >> i agree with peter. it's impressive that he's hopping from state to state to state, certainly they're battle grounds. what is his specific path? he needs to nail florida, ohio, and possibly pennsylvania. he's hitting those states along the way, but he's also bouncing in other places, too. the path he's following to 270 is unclear. there's no question that polls have titaned. he does -- tightened. he does see movement on his behalf in places like new mexico. but again, hillary clinton has a multiple -- has multiple paths to 270. donald trump doesn't. it might make more sense for him to follow the one path he has, to nail the big states where he's doing well. and if he gets a florida and ohio, he becomes very competitive. >> jane, pick up on that point. not a clear path for donald trump. we see him going to places like
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wisconsin, like colorado. is that more of throw everything up against the wall, see what sticks, and come out with hopefully 270? >> i think, as beth says, they weren't sure what the path is. so i think they're trying to see if they can move the needle any which way with here little in nevada, here little bit in colorado. overall, the polls do not look good for him. she looks like she's up well outside the margin of error. i think they're hoping in the final days with the comey news and the fbi looking at more emails, that they can maybe move the needle if nothing else, keep some of her voters home and get theirs out. i think he has to be in all of these background states because he doesn't have the get out the vote movement and the operation she does. he is the only person getting voters out. >> we were hearing this term a lot throughout the race -- the clinton blue wall of states. she's now going out to places like ohio, florida, pennsylvania, even new hampshire. would donald trump need a sweep of all of these states to have a chance, or can he cherry pick a few and still get to that 270?
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>> we forget how formidable this challenge is for any republican, particularly trump because of his weaknesses among certain voting groups including suburban moderates that peter mentioned. basically trump has to run the table on all the battleground states and still comes up short. that's what we had saw in 2012 with mitt romney, too. he targeted a lot of places. but each then because of the blue wall, as you said, it's a challenge for republicans to get up and over it. what -- what he would have to do, what mr. trump would have to do is pick you a real blue state. like a michigan. like a -- a new mexico. like a pennsylvania. >> there were some ads in michigan and some -- some were saying that because she's running those ads in michigan that they were not necessarily as confident about michigan -- >> they're not. they're seeing tightening there. she was in detroit a couple of days ago. their big concern honestly is that the turnout of african-americans now seems to be a little soft. she's trying to shore those up. >> we'll talk about that in one of the upcoming segments.
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let's talk about the polls. they've been tightening the past couple of days. much to the disappointment of the clinton campaign. how much of that is attributable to the fbi letter that was sent by james comey to congress, or is this just a natural evolution of the final days of any campaign? >> you know, i think there's a bit of both. obviously the polls tieghten toward the end. i think october surprises are particularly effective when they play into an existing narrative. the idea that she's part of washington, that she's maybe not trustworthy is something she's long struggled with. the continuation of the fbi look for most people, even though it is not technically a reopening or changing anything yet, it feels like she's just back in that spot where she's mired in bureaucracy and potentially wrongdoing. we don't know yet. it doesn't look good. it keeps people home. >> the potential of the wrongdoing in the clinton camp -- i wanted top ask what you've been doing inside the campaign itself about the fbi. there's got to be some kind of disappointment with the leaks
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coming out of the fbi, particularly in some of the stories that have been debunked that were attributable to the fbi but turned out to be false. >> yeah. they feel -- they feel like they're -- it's unfair what's happening now. they're not 100% surprised. they knew that there was a lot that could potentially, you know, go and get into their way the last few days of the campaign. they feel like really, like after all this, like i'm -- this candidate is under the glass for this when she's running against, you know, donald trump, who wasn't released his tax returns. who has allegations of groech i -- of groping. there are things that they feel should be piling up as disqualifiers for her, yet the focus is on her emails. >> that goes back to the point that they've always been held to a different standard in this race, something the campaign has been made clear. let me ask but melania trump. she made one of her rare appearances this week talking about cyber-bullying. what was the strategy? who do you think she was going after given the fact that her husband has been heavily
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criticized for being a cyber-bullier on media? >> it was a confounding speech to have this woman going against bullying when her husband does that on twitter. this to me box office the suburban moderate women in suburban pennsylvania. they are crucial to him. he is pulling far lower than romney did. romney won married women in -- last time we ran. he is so far below that right now, and he needs them to get over this. >> a long 72 hours for you, as well. thank you very much for joining us this morning. a programming note, we invite you to watch our special weekend election coverage. it begins tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern with a live one-hour show hosted by my colleague, joy reid. then on tuesday, watch msnbc for wall-to-wall coverage of the historic 2016 elections beginning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. still ahead, i'll ask a clinton supporter and congressman, gregory meeks, how worried he is about the african-american voter turnout, a crucial turnout for the
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i want everybody to continued all the progress we've made, everything we've fought for, everything we aspire to, all of that goes out the window if we don't win this election. >> welcome back. president obama stopped yesterday in north carolina rallying support for hillary clinton. his efforts drawing this reaction from donald trump -- >> he's like a cheerleader jumping up and down all over the place for hillary. shouldn't be doing that. you shouldn't be with her. he's got to be working. >> joining me is new york
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congressman gregory meeks, a member of the congressional black caucus and clinton supporter. good to have you here. first of all, your reaction to trump's comments there. he seems like -- the fact that obama is campaigning for hillary clinton is really getting under his skin. >> well, donald trump is a joke. he's a con man, and he still is continuing to try to con the american public. you can just see right through him. for his statement, the president, get back to work, did he see the economic report? does he know how far we've come from the eight years when republicans were in charge? president obama is doing what he needs to to make sure america continues to become a more perfect union. >> i want to ask you about early voting, in particular president obama made reference to it earlier this week. take a listen. i'll ask your reaction afterwards. >> we've got early voting. we've got all kinds of metrics to see what's going on. right now the latino vote is up. overall vote is up.
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but the african-american vote now is not as solid as it needs to be. >> what are you hearing about the african-american voter turnout? how concerned are you about it, and -- you know, what can we expect in the next 72 hours? is there anything that can happen to get that african-american vote to the levels where president obama and hillary clinton need it to be or want it to be? >> it's going to be where it needs to be. i think that there's a concerted effort on the other side to suppress the vote. and i think you look at some of the laws that came forth that reduced the time for early voting or not having voting on sundays where we had the souls to the polls event. i think that's what's happening now is watch ohio this weekend. i was in ohio last weekend, in cleveland. a little bit of bad their. weather's -- of bad weather. weather's supposed to be good this week. and by this sunday, they were going to be going to the polls in droves. i think in a way when you look
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at what comey has done with the fbi, you talk about criminal justice reform -- they know that hillary is serious about criminal justice reform because they see some of the same things that's happened and what they believe happened in the fbi and other places, happening to hillary clinton. i've heard that. i was with young people on a college campus, and they said we was going to vote, but we can't allow this to happen. >> a poll by "the new york times" found 64% considered clinton dishonest and untrustworthy. 6% more than those who view trump as dishonest and untrustworthy. what does that say to you about the state of this race and perhaps explains anything in terms of why there's an unwillingness from the african-american vote to get behind clinton in the same numbers we saw in 2008 and 2012? >> let me say first, comparing those two is difficult. for african-americans, barack
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obama being the first african-american president -- i mean, i don't know if you will ever see those kinds of numbers. so, you know -- >> fair enough. >> you look at the numbers coming out, it is far superior unanimo to the numbers in 2004 and 2000. let's not compare the same thing. the level of excitement that generated was unprecedented. the excitement now still from hillary clinton because they understand what's at stake and want to have the president's back. >> what about the untrustworthiness that 64% see hillary clinton as that six points more than somebody like donald trump who certainly also had his fair legal challenges, accusations, allegations of sexual harassment? >> again, if that's the -- the republicans decided long ago that if you went on -- based upon the record of hillary clinton and the substance of hillary clinton, there was no way they could beat her. they decided there's a long, continuous time that they've been focused on trying to
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discredit her. if you hear it over and over and over again, some folks start to think that maybe that's right. but facts show that from the '90s to now, they put these allegations out, none of which has been true. she'll still standing. they'll see when she becomes the president. >> what is your biggest concern after the election, regardless of who wins? what are you most concerned about? >> that the republican congress is going to -- if by chance they stay in the majority, they're not going to want to do things that are important for the american people to move forwards. >> and if clinton wins, you could there could be a litany of investigations launched, and more issues for her on the hill? >> that's why i want more team make sure we have a mandate of folks to come out to vote, to give the republicans -- put them on notice that the american people want us to move forward and get jobs for americans and fix our economy. make it even grow stronger, do -- infrastructure and transportation bill.
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north carolina. nbc's morgan ratford is in charlotte, forecaairfax county. talk about -- north carolina. talk about the early voting. how is it looking? >> reporter: good morning. we've seen record voter turnout in terms of early voting in mecklenburg county. overall, it's lower than it was in 2012. mecklenburg county, what houses charlotte, is the largest county in the entire state. it's certainly an important county for the democrats because this is a blue dot in a sea of red. so this is kind of where you see the microcosm playing out in terms of campaign strategies on a national level. you see urban, younger, minority voters here in city areas like charlotte, and then older, white voters in more rural areas. what's interesting is that i'm from north carolina. i've been covering this date for the past month coming back and forth and talking to voters. what's interesting is a lot of people who i've spoken to said we can't remember a time when north carolina got this much attention. we know we're a swing state. we were blurple in 2008 and
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2012. now the country is really focused on us. what you also hear is cause of election fraud. people are really concerned about election fraud and these voter i.d. laws. now voter i.d. laws are passed in 2013. so the last time people voted, they actually came to polling stations like the one behind me. and there were signs that said next time you come, you're going to have to bring your voter i.d. well, that turned out not to be the case. people are having questions not only about how this election process will continue but also about its legitimacy. >> all right. nobody better to give us a perspective on north carolina than a hometown girl. thank you very much for that. now to the battleground state of ohio. another crucial state. we have more from kent. jolene, good to have you with us. speaking to voters, what did they tell you is the number-one topic driving the election for them? >> reporter: good morning from battleground lorain county, one of the biggest issues is the economy and jobs here.
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we're here with meredith sealy. she is a former worker at u.s. steel in the quality department. you worked at u.s. steel for five years. you were a bernie supporter, but now you're supporting hillary clinton. tell me why that is. >> i support hillary clinton for the main reason that she backs unions. she's been at our side for many, many years. when she's called upon, she's there, and she stands with us. she has a -- she has a plan only for manufacturing in ohio but for america. that's something we need here. >> reporter: at the same time, donald trump does provide an infrastructure plan, as well, and some of his supporters would say he's a leading business person and he's interested in spending and helping improve the steel economy if you will. what do you say to that? >> if he's interested in helping
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improve the steel economy, why is he buying steel and aluminum from china? his infrastructure plan is a joke. it -- it involves building a wall. we don't need a wall. we need a bridge. there's -- there's no way he could revitalize our industry. he needs to put his money where his mouth is. >> meredith saly, thank you very much for coming out to sugar creek restaurant in battleground lorain county where the economy and jobs are at the front of mind. i'll send it back to you. >> all right. jolene kent live in ohio. thank you very much for that. i want to bring in patrick murray, director of the monmouth university polling. people ask me about polling, are the polls accurate, what can you tell us from the polls? i want to get your take on them beginning with the abc/"washington post" poll. that shows clinton with a four-point lead dipping after the week. how are you reading into this hint of momentum so close to election day and in light of that fbi investigation?
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>> yeah. the polls are fascinating, having done quite a few myself. we see a lot more volatility. and one of the things that's interesting about that abc poll -- and we've taken it as an example of all the other polling going on out there, is that four years ago abc was close. at the end it had a three-point lead for barack obama. he won by almost four points. but before that the poll ranged from a plus-one obama to a plus-three romney. only a four-point swing before that. we've already -- in this abc poll, we've seen a 13-point swing from 12 points clinton to 1 point trump. now back to three points clinton -- four points clinton. and i think that's where we're finally seeing the polls stabilize because this has been a race where there's been a lot of volatility in the polling. a lot of volatility in the electorate. these are one of the key things that's different in this election than last in terms of the polling is that we have a significant number of voters who
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tell us they're voting for somebody that they don't like. >> you're -- you talked a lot about this last-minute push in battleground states particularly this weekend. donald trump visiting half a dozen states in the next 48 hours. after new polls out out of florida, nevada, pennsylvania, are showing how tight the races are especially in florida, how do you account for the close races? >> yeah. florida's been close all along. arizona wasn't supposed to be close. the fact that it is close is surprising. i think what we're seeing is in some states it's stabilizing. nevada, pennsylvania, these are -- those are states where it's stabilizing. new hampshire i think is the big surprise at the end where it looked like clinton had an early, solid lead, and now that's closed. florida, all along you have a mix of voters down there. old school republicans, southern vote in the panhandle. you have people who have moved there, retired there, from the north.
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then you have sizable latino vote, african-american vote in jacksonville. so it's a mix. and probably florida encapsulates what's been going on in the national election. >> when we look at voter enthusiasm particularly in that abc/"washington post" tracking poll, it shows trump with the advantage 53-37% with as much campaigning as hillary clinton, bernie sanders, with and president obama, campaigning for hillary clinton. are you surprised that the base is not more fired up for the democratic party with all these a-list surrogates? >> i think we'll maybe see that this weekend. there's not clear when the polls will do that h. it's not clear when the measure translates directly to your likelihood to go out to vote. it's been used by pollsters for many decades. it's becoming less of a real indicator. >> what should we looking for as we go through the election, the next 72 hours? are there any indicators that
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will tell us or tell you what those indicators are in terms of what we should be looking for, what could be a long night? >> right. i think north carolina might be the first indicator. it will take a while for north carolina to be called. it was called four years ago about 11:00 at night. but if hillary clinton wins north carolina, there isn't a pact to 270 for -- path to 270 for donald trump. it will suggest that the african-american votes started coming in significantly in north carolina. that will tell us, i think the tale of the tape there. >> yeah. and you can see from the fact that president obama's been in north carolina twice. i'm sure there will be more visits in the coming days. thank you very much. ahead, is there a possibility that this race will. be over tuesday night? well, what happens then? our political strategists will talk about that in our next hour. the voters who may be the most crucial in the outcome of the race. which ones clinton and trump need to turn out at the polls. the world is full of surprising moments.
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welcome back. today with over 72 hours before polling places over across the country, the gop granted donald trump the use of an important party outlet -- that is the weekly address. >> for the past 17 months, i've traveled across this nation and met the amazing people of our country. their hopes have become my hopes, and their dreams have become my dreams. this is not just a campaign, it's a movement. it's a once in a lifetime chance to take our government back from the donors and special interests and return the power to you, the american people. >> all right. let's brick in rick tyler, political analyst and spokesman for ted cruz's campaign. joe watkins, former white house aide to president george h.w. bush. and sarah isgar flores, former deputy campaign manager for carly fiorina and former deputy communications director for the rnc, the best in the business.
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good to have you with us. sarah, politico polled a selection of insiders from both parties who say that clinton's ground game will make all the difference in these last few days. do you agree with that system in. >> you know, the clinton team tried to basically say that they have the 2012 ground game. but numbers don't bear it out. north carolina and florida, republicans are actually further ahead than they were in 2012. on the other hand, those numbers are shifting as we get closer to election day. clark county in nevada, democrats 13 spoip 3 points ahe. trump could stand to only lose that by six. the question is when that's her ground game or a reaction against donald trump. the enthusiasm numbers to for hillary clinton sloent the level that i think -- shown the level that i think she would want. that's why she had to be in michigan yesterday. >> the polls are tit tightening
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battleground states. how much does that matter versus the ground game? >> look, the race is very tight. it's difficult choice for people between donald trump who's unpopular and hillary clinton who's also unpopular. people want change but aren't sure they want the change to be with donald trump. and hillary clinton is happy with things like the job numbers and gdp numbers even though they're anemic. i think she's in michigan because she lost that state to bernie sanders and she does not want to live -- relive that. but look, i think the ground game will matter because she has won, and donald trump really doesn't have a ground game, although the rnc claims that they do a ground game. if -- if donald trump somehow pull this out, i think the rnc will be able to take a lot of credit. >>y joe, you're from pennsylvania, one of the states people say is up for grabs. do you think that will be a
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turning point for one of these campaigns? who should be more worried about the closing poll numbers in the state of pennsylvania, trump or clinton? >> hillary clinton's been leading here for a long time. so obviously the tightening has got to be i guess disheartening for her side. that said i think ground game matters. having boots on the ground -- i've been through so many cycles. in the past, you can't underscore enough how important it is to have your people on the ground, making sure your voters get out and vote for you at the polls. donald trump has raised money, not nearly as much as hillary clinton has, but he hasn't extent on building an organization, an on-the-ground organization. that could come back to bite him. >> do you think that hillary clinton has the ad quequate gro game outside of philadelphia? beyond philadelphia and thee ret of the stay, how do you think
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she's faring up with the ground game, jeff? >> i'm sorry -- >> go ahead. you're from pennsylvania. game going to give you the chance to give us insight. >> thanks. she's doing very, very well. i mean, i've been around the state. i've been talking to a lot of voters over the last couple of weeks, and her troops are out in number. she's well organized, has raised money, and have staffers on the ground. they been here for a long time. not just in philadelphia or the suburbs. the southeastern part of pennsylvania is important because it -- river is 45%t state's vote. she's got her people fanned out across the state. they've been on the ground for a long time. that may help her. >> sarah, let me ask about the overnight stories that could seemingly pose chalglenges for donald trump. among them the a.p. report that melania trump worked in the u.s. for months before she had a visa to do so.
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at this point, to voters care? >> i think at this point people have made up their minds about their candidates. they may not like their choices and say they're undecided. i think the anywhere stiff baked and why we've seen -- the numbers baked and why we've seen donald trump overtake hillary clinton. i think the story that hillary clinton did. disclose, the million dollars that the government of qatar gave her, a violation of her pledge to president obama to disclose that under their ethics agreement, i think it feeds each character's narrative that donald trump doesn't play by the rules, that hillary clinton sets the rules and doesn't play by the rules. there's a reason voters don't like these guys. >> 72 hours to go. does anything happen this weekend? anything you could imagine that could really change the outcome of this election? what are the two -- what do the candidates have to do in the final 100 yards of the race? >> they've got to go all out.
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hillary clinton has 33 events in 11 states so she's taking nothing for granted. i think donald trump is focused on three states, they have a lot of events, not as many surrogates out. there it's momentum, now you'd have -- you'd have to say the momentum is in trump's favor. if i were clinton, i'd worry about pennsylvania. if trump were to pull off s&p pennsylvania, it opens up a lot of pathways to victory. so there's a lot of states in the east coast you can look at. florida, north carolina, pennsylvania, new hampshire. if you just watch those states -- and maybe ohio. but if you watch those states, i think you'll know pretty much how the election will go. >> for how tough this has been for the general election and primaries on both sides, how likely is that tuesday is not going to be the end of the
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election cycle? >> don't say it. >> with the way the states are shaping up, with the fact that we've heard threats to what could happen after election day, how likely is it that it's not going to be >> i think in the end-all of these states that are close will tip one way or the other. that being said f. donald trump pulls out florida and north carolina, which they were looking like they were moving in his favor, we are in a tie and because that's decided by the new congress you could end up with a president donald trump
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welcome back, everyone. in two hours donald trump will take the stage again in tampa, florida, where he is in a dead heat with hillary clinton. trump is to hit the sunshine state twice this weekend. let's bring back in our panel. thank you guys for sticking around. let's look ahead to election night. tell us what we should be looking for as the returns come in? what are the best indicators of which way the night will play out and how it will be split? >> what is not reliable are the exit polls.
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every four years we are like lucy and the football with these exit polls and they are never quite right and we have to stop getting hyped up on those, but as the east coast numbers come in i will look at new hampshire, and i think that's where we will see the break one way or another. >> interesting. new hampshire is sarah's call. what state should we be watching out for? could there be one or two that decides which way the election goes? >> in clinton wins florida, north carolina, or ohio, it will be over. i don't think any of those will be called early. if on the other hand, trump wins those states and she wins pennsylvania, and sarah is absolutely right, new hampshire comes into play, and it could be the most statistical likely scenario is close to a tie.
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if it was a tie, in other words, nobody got to 270, the house will decide the president and the senate gets to decide the vice president. it will be really interesting. >> i don't know if the country is prepared for that, guys. >> what are you expecting in terms of turnout? >> if you are donald trump, he had an advantage in enthusiasm. he doesn't have the organization on the ground but he has more enthusiasm in his base than hillary clinton, and folks will be motivated to vote especially if they have been hurt by the economy. and hillary clinton needs to ask the american voters, and they trend obviously heavily towards hillary clinton, but the question becomes whether or not
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