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hey there, everyone. here's what we're bringing you. i'm alex witt as we give you a look at two campaign rallies. you see our nbc's kasie hunt, getting ready for the rally there to the right of your screen, that is in pembroke pines, florida. hillary clinton. to the best, wilmington, north carolina, a donald trump rally. and as we see at the bottom of your screen, it is the final sprint. as we talk about florida, that is one of eight states, one of most of them key battle grounds where clinton, donald trump and their supporters are barn
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storming today. in total, holding 16 separate events. again, trump heading to north carolina. he did have a rally in florida. his first of four events in as many states today. he ramped up there his rhetoric about clinton's stamina. he even mocked her star studded event in cleveland, ohio, last night. >> she has no energy. but she can't do it, because they can't get any people. in hershey, pennsylvania, last night, we had arena. we had 27,000 people show up, maybe they couldn't get in. far more than jay-z had. with their free tickets. free tickets. far more. and beyonce. >> also new today, the new early voting data shows nearly 40 million voters cast their ballots up by about 4 million from yesterday and of the 40 million votes, 8 million cast in 12 battleground states. 18, there we go. president obama off the campaign trail today after holding two
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events for clinton in north carolina yesterday. he sat down with my colleague, al sharpton, for exclusive interview where he drilled home the power of each vote. >> i won north carolina in '08 by two votes per precinct. two votes per precinct. and so this notion that your vote doesn't count, the fact of the matter is, you might be one of those two votes that changes the direction of american history. >> and with just three days to go, we have reporters covering every angle. nbc's jolene kent, mariana atenso in battle ground states keeping an eye on the early voting. kasie hunt in florida with the clinton campaign. but we begin with nbc's jacob rascon in wilmington, north carolina. jacob, welcome to you. mr. trump about to take the stage for a second event of the day. what can we expect? >> reporter: we expect more talk of obamacare. we expect more talk of fbi.
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wikileaks. the same theme he's been hitting for the last couple weeks. i've got to tell you, this is the most consistent i think we've ever seen donald trump in the last couple weeks of the campaign. and it's hard to overstate just how critical north carolina is. the campaign is telling nbc news, their aides are, that michigan is new to them, as a possible path to victory. and they really see michigan as key to this. they also see a path without michigan, but it includes winning north carolina, either way. so whether they get to that michigan win, which looks unlikely, because they're behind or not, they do need to win north carolina. the campaign is acknowledging this. it's worth noting that the polling here shows that the trump campaign is behind by several points. but it showed them behind by much more a couple weeks ago and beyond. the same thing in michigan. the trump campaign is behind in all public polling by several
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points. but that's a lot less than it was a couple of weeks ago. so to the trump campaign, they see a lot of momentum moving their way in states like north carolina, even michigan and other states, as well, like new hampshire. so as you know, they're planning a ten-state blitz this weekend, and through monday, this is the second stop of the day. they're going on to pennsylvania, as well, and reno, nevada. so it's an all-out blitz. they know they're behind in a lot of states. but again, they see momentum. they believe they're pull some upsets. >> jacob rascon awaiting mr. trump's arrival in wilmington. thank you for that. let's bring in msnbc's kasie hunt in pembroke pines, florida. kasie, with a welcome to you. i was mentioning donald trump, just wrapping up the rally in tampa. tim kaine will be in florida. let's talk about the sunshine state there. how tight is the race there? are you able to glean from early voting data which side has the
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advantage? >> reporter: well, alex, this is incredibly close here in south florida, which is why we are back again in broward county, which is a prime place for democrats here in the sunshine state. hillary clinton, just a few minutes ago, making a stop in little haiti, reaching out to that community of people. she talked a little bit about campaigning with the mothers of the movement. mothers who have had children killed by gun violence. she also, of course, talked about her -- and her husband, bill clinton's connections to haiti, talking about earthquake relief, for example, an area where they have focused their efforts with the clinton foundation over the years. so very clearly trying to target a community that they think, if they turn out to vote, will support hillary clinton in overwhelming numbers. and that shows you, really, kind of the tactic strategy day by day of trying to get out this vote. it's very specific, and frankly, very close. and democrats are encouraged
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right now by the hispanic turnout in the early votes. they believe that they are seeing a surge in hispanic voting that will put them into a decent position going into election night voting. but at the same time, republicans have been about keeping pace with democrats in early balloting here. and, of course, the last chance people have is 7:00 monday to vote here in florida. so this is really kind of their last ditch effort along those lines. the campaign has been very careful to take her to places where she can tell people, hey, go out, do something after you leave this rally. but the sunshine state, of course, going to be -- it's make or break for trump. but it's something, of course, that hillary clinton could go on to win the election. if she didn't win here, that said, if they're able to pull it off, it would make for an early night on tuesday. alex? >> let's see. we're going to see if we're going to bet on an early night or really, really late. it seems either way. thank you very much, kasie from pembroke pines. >> this state will tell us the answer to that question.
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>> very true. you're right. the other big early voting story to tell you at this hour, north carolina which was supposed to have ended at the top of the hour, the early voting there, that is not what's happening. we're going to go to charlotte and morgan radford. they had a big huge line there. has everyone who was in line gotten in to vote yet? >> reporter: well, we are actually -- you're looking at her. the last woman standing. we are at the end of the line here. early voting has, in fact, closed at 1:00 p.m. but this is actually the last woman standing. megan, you are the last person in line to vote. why early voting? >> well, first of all, i think this year, north carolina is a very important state. there's a lot of focus on our state. so i want to get in and make sure my vote would count. >> reporter: can you tell there is a difference this year? do you think there is more attention? do you think there are different issues that north carolinans are worried about? >> yes. i think there is a lot of focus on our state. north carolina has been tough over the past month, month and a half. and i think it's going to be a close election. >> reporter: it's a close election, indeed. that's what all of the polls are
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showing. in fact, i want to show you just how long this line is. this is the very end of the line. people have been lining up all the way around the block this morning. and if you look over here, it's around this corner that you'll actually find the front of the line. and we're in charlotte. let's go ahead and go towards the front. this is mecklenburg being, the largest county in north carolina and kind of like a blueberry in the vat of tomato sauce. it's a typically democratic county. and this is a county that democrats find very important, because you can see a microcosm of what's happening in the larger national campaign strategies here, alex. here you find younger, more urban, minority voters who tend to lean democrat, and older and whiter, tending to lead in trump's territory here in north carolina. but that's why this is such a close vote this year. and why people are lining up. here we go. the front of the doors here and the last voters allowed to vote in north carolina before tuesday, alex. >> okay. morgan radford, thank you so much. our jumping-off point for our
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conversation now, as i'm joined by the political writer for the los angeles times and mark murray. particularly with you, mark, we are watching that live shot from morgan. the huge line still. that's a problem in north carolina, it wasn't to be expected. what's your interpretation? >> there weren't enough voting booths in the early voting. it increased as time has gone on. that's a big problem when you have that kind of long line, knowing the early voting was going to be. it means the community and the voting and secretary of state's office and all the precincts don't have enough ballot centers at all. they don't have enough booths to be able to process. particularly in a battleground state. we're not talking about this is new york city with tens of millions of people at all. this is north carolina, sizeable state in one of the biggest areas we're seeing in charlotte. to me, that's a sign that the communities don't have enough voting booths for the voters that are showing up. and i think it does lead a question on what would election day look like if this is the end of early voting, what is election day going to be for
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people who haven't had time to early vote. >> very good point. seema, what do you make of the stops that both candidates are doing in this final stretch of the election? >> well, both the candidates woke up in florida today, which is sort of interesting, because they usually like to return to their homes in new york, as opposed to staying out on the campaign trail. i think this points to how important florida is. >> as kasie was signify earlier. for donald trump, his campaign manager yesterday was saying, that they're entire path to victory depends on getting four states, florida, north carolina, iowa and ohio. and then picking up one or two other battleground states, in addition to getting the states mitt romney won four years ago. for hillary clinton, even if she doesn't need to win florida to get to 270, if she can block trump from winning florida, that's a key move. >> interesting, mark. trump announced he was not going to visit wisconsin, as scheduled tomorrow. he may be now hitting minnesota. he's also going to visit colorado. talk about the strategy there. >> they're just trying to pick off one more state. and as seema mentioned, even if
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they run the table in the even steven contests in north carolina and florida, they still have to pick off wisconsin or minnesota. i do think when we're in the final stretches of a campaign, when you're starting to talk about all these different states, now we're going to fly over to nevada, it really does mean there isn't a path. they're trying to throw several -- throw everything in the wall, several hail mary passes to shake up a race. it is possible donald trump has had a puncher's chance in this race. when you have three days to go, and you're trying to talk about minnesota or a michigan or a pennsylvania, it shows you that you are behind, and i think all the polling shows that. >> do you think it also shows that maybe the ground game, that ought to have been in place for the trump campaign early on -- certainly has been built. but maybe cannot even match what hillary clinton has gotten. >> i've gone into this race thinking that donald trump, to be able to win, has to have the lead in the public polling or at least tied to be able to have a chance, given the superiority of
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the ground game. and we're seeing that play out in the early vote. alex, one thing we have already seen in nevada, where democrats, according to the best political expert, john wallston, said this race might be over, given the mu hmongous number of democrats voting in clark county in the entire state of nevada and we're seeing that in the ground game. how that plays out in florida, north carolina, still to be undetermined. but i do think most people would end up saying the clinton campaign has the better ground game. >> seema, latest voter turnout shows pennsylvania has had 1% of democrats have cast their ballots so far. that's versus 49% for the republicans. does that surprise you? >> it's clear that pennsylvania is in play because of how much both candidates are appearing in that state. donald trump just sent his wife, melania, to make her first speech since the convention to one of those critical counties outside fleflt, chester county. on monday, the clintons have going to end this election, basically with hillary clinton, bill clinton, president obama, the first lady, chelsea clinton,
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at a big event in philadelphia. clearly, both campaigns consider pennsylvania critical to their chances. >> can i just ask you both, and i'll let you answer first, seema, how long do you think it's going to take for us to find out? an early night or a long one? >> once sisi how florida and north carolina go, we can have a -- >> champagne bottles. >> 8:0030 or 9:00. if hillary clinton has the lead in either state, she's going to be -- looks like an early election night. if it's actually donald trump is the one ahead in both florida and in north carolina, it's going to be a long evening. one point on the pennsylvania numbers. pennsylvania doesn't have early in voting. you have to have an excuse with absentees, so republicans might have the edge in some of the pennsylvania numbers. but it's just a sliver of the electorate. almost all going to be election-day voting that happens in the keystone state. >> thank you for your perspective. we thank you, mark murray. and thank you so much from los angeles. an unfavorable rating of
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donald trump hit the stage this morning in tampa, florida, where he drove home the issue of government corruption, a concern that polls show is resonating with voters. >> if she were to win, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. my contract with the american voter begins with a plan to end government corruption, and to take back our country from the special interests. >> joining me now is abby lowell, a defense attorney, current hillary clinton supporter.
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abby, with a welcome to you, let's talk right now about clinton. as you know, trailing donald trump by nine points in a recent tracking poll asking likely voters who would better deal with government corruption. what do you think is at the root of this sentiment? >> what's at the root of the sentiment is so much smoke and so little light. i mean, can we say that a week after fbi director comey made this unprecedented announcement that we know something to put this issue to bed. first, the only violation of policy that has been uncovered was the violation by him when he made an announcement so close to an election about an investigation that no one knows what it's about. and there's no policy that prevents e-mail servers as in hillary clinton's use. and the second is that now in this political year, the fbi became politicized, and that's what erodes americans' confidence, not the conduct of its public officials. >> and abby, how much ask this worry you, that what has been put out there is being -- you
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know, digested by the voters? >> i mean, it worries myself and i think you've seen former attorneys general and deputy attorneys general from both administrations writing about this subject. it was completely unprecedented. and look at the distraction it's been for a year. i've said that it's sort of the opposite and backwards, right? it's not radiating fire, it's fi fire, aim, ready. he said he would keep us up to date and finally determine whether there is anything to investigate. and alex, let's be clear about e-mails. e-mails are talked about like they're themselves a problem. i don't care what's on huma abedin's laptop or on her device. if it's her talking to her boss, the secretary of state, it's perfectly allowed, even if it's classified. and all the cases that have ever been brought have required there to be a disclosure to somebody unauthorized, and all that gets lost when we politicize the law enforcement process.
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>> look, with regard to huma abedin, we should say the laptop that is in question, it is that of her husband's, be even, which makes this all more bizarre. >> not only bizarre, but look at what we have talked about in a week. when there are real issues that separates the candidates. we're talking about whether the fbi director did right or wrong and whether anthony weiner did a goofy thing. in whatever happened, we know the fbi director did a disservice both to his agency and to the electoral process by doing what he did. it ought to be wind off the -- the slate. and now people ought to look at the reality. and the reality is, there is as many questions about how we got to the point where there's leaks from the fbi to rudy guiliani and to the republican party. that would be the very corruption that donald trump is saying he wants to investigate. he might want to start by looking in the mirror. >> abby, republicans have been threatening legal proceedings if hillary clinton wins. how serious is this threat, and if she were to call you for
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counsel, what would you advise her? >> well, the threat is serious, because the way it works is that the majority gets to make up its rules in congress. no better example than in 1988 when i served during the impeachment of president clinton. world history will make very clear, there was no impeachable offense. and the only reason it got where it did, because the republicans had more votes than democrats. that's a terrible precedent. and it should not repeat itself. and the very fact that republicans or others are saying that they'll start investigations before there's even been an election day vote, shows you that it's not real. and it's dangerous. because the constitution has been in place to prevent this kind of politicization of the important issues of law enforcement, i am peevement and in this world we live in and now see the republicans throwing it up against the wall, willing to abandon it. that's what people should be very concerned about. >> attorney abby lowell, thank you very much. appreciate your insight, sir.
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still ahead, the one issue driving more voters to the polls for both republicans and democrats in ohio.
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at 27 past the hour, donald trump's plane has just landed there in wilmington, north carolina. he will be heading to a rally where people have been waiting for quite some time. and coming up after the break, we will talk about the key voting block that could make the difference in that state on tuesday. ♪
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we are following the candidates with a blitz of appearances in the battleground states. donald trump's plane having just arrived in wilmington, north carolina. as we move to pembroke pines, florida, hillary clinton is expected to speak any moment now. we're giving you a live look. it has just started raining. we are sorry to say for those out there. i'm sure they will endure. early voting wraps up in many states today, and, be again, nearly 40 million have cast their ballots. 18 monthly of those ballots cast in ballot ground states. in florida, only 11% of the early votes are from black voters, down from 2012, as you can see. nbc's tremaine lee, went to florida to ask why this race is so close. >> why is it so close here in florida? >> well, i think we are in the south, even though a lot of people growing up here, they don't consider florida like georgia, alabama. florida is supposed to be like the melting pot.
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but as i'm looking at now, more -- you see more racism and division here in florida than -- and i was surprised. and i never knew it was like that. >> it's the fact that people do think america is getting a little too brown. and they're not happy about that. >> right now in florida, democratic and republicans are voting in early voting in equal measure. we have a group of puerto rican voters. another welcome to you. what's going on there right now? >> reporter: hi, alex. how are you? never a dull day covering the puerto rican community, banding together to take some of the 80,000 registered puerto ricans around orlando to the polls on this last weekend of early voting. this is kissimmee, florida, the heart of the puerto rican community in central florida. and along the critical i-4
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corridor. i'm here with cristina hernandez, one of the organizers cristina, tell us about this group of voters. what are the issues they care about? >> puerto rican voters are like the other american voters we have across the country. they're looking for jobs, education, quality health care. but they're also looking at the candidates to see who has a plan for puerto rico, how to lift it out of its current economic crisis. >>. >> reporter: and what is the chants? ♪ >> reporter: that means come vote, my people, alex. and a latest poll had florida puerto ricans supporting secretary clinton, 71% to donald trump's 19%. so if we see these puerto rican voters head to the polls more and more in the coming three days, it just may determine who wins the critical i-4 corridor, and who carries the state of florida. remember, president obama won this state by just 73,000 votes. alex? >> i'll tell you, it is hard to match their energy and
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enthusiasm in the puerto rican community. we appreciate your guests singing there. that was great. thank you so much, mariana atezio. jolene kent is in the rain for us. it seems to be all about the economy, the issue driving voters there, right? >> reporter: alex, that is exactly right. we're in front of republic steel. i want to show you how big this steel plant once was. this used to employ over 2,000 people and now republic steel has lost thousands of jobs. it's down to only four employees who are here just to guard the assets. and the economy, of course, a very important issue to you, craig, right here, the vice president of the local united steel workers union. and you're one of the four who continues to work for republic. why is the economy so important to you here in lorraine? >> well, we've been devastated. we've lost over 1,500 jobs. 1,200 recently back in 2009 we had 2,500.
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our community is devastated. we have lost firefighters, police department. we should be able to stand here in front of this steel plant right now. we should be hearing steel being made and not brought into this country from china. >> reporter: who are you supporting in 2016 and why? >> hillary clinton i believe is our best chance for us to give us a chance to restart this mill. i can't support donald trump when i see him importing steel from china in the very buildings that he used, constructs. >> reporter: so many critics say of hillary clinton that donald trump can bring jobs because he's an experienced businessman. how do you respond to that? >> well, if he's a great businessman, then why is he using steel that he's made in china? and not made in the united states? his suit line, his ties. his -- all his businesses are made in foreign companies. and then they bring it in at low wages for people that have an economy that they can't live on. they can't support. we need more jobs that give us a
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better chance to -- in a local area like this, that's had total devastation. >> reporter: this is an area, lorraine county, has gone for democrats in the past. and so we see that it continues that trend, maybe continuing, but a lot of enthusiastic trump supporters here in your community. what do you think will shake out on tuesday. >> i think everybody is going to go to the polls and they'll see a great chance that we can bring something back to lorraine county and try to get these jobs back in lorraine county. and i believe hillary will be the best chance that we have for that. >> reporter: all right, craig wright of republic steel. thank you so much for sharing your compelling story. >> thank you. >> reporter: alex, this is a community that has a lot of political enthusiasm on the right, but also on the left. we will see what happens here. but, of course, ohio a critical battleground state as we head into these final days. back to you. >> absolutely right. thank you so much nbc's joe ling kent from ohio. let's go to the african-american vote.
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we have the executive director of color of change. rashad, with a big welcome to you. as we look at the "new york times" this week, which said that african-americans are failing to vote at the robust levels they did four years ago in battleground states. are free concerts targeting millennials and minorities going to help? >> actually, there has been a lot of work happening, including my organization, the color of change pac, of which i'm the spokesperson for, doing much more targeted outreach to black voters, concentrating not just the top of the ticket, but on things like district attorney's races. translating the presence of this moment around criminal justice reform into actual systemic change that our communities need. and so i do think we're sewing some of the numbers comp out. and every election cycle we hear the story, will the black community show up for democrats the way democrats need them. but i do think this is a larger story about what is the long-term investment that political establishment across the board will make in black communities. this is not just a conversation
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we have every two years, or four years. >> democrats can't rely on the toxicity of the republican party to turn out black voters. but i do think that in these final days, we're seeing tremendous changes in recognition of why this is an important election. and i don't think that you're going to see the same type of enthusiasm at the top of the ticket. you're not seeing it across the board on the left. but i do think that people are making really strategic choices about how this country needs to move forward. >> rashad, our viewers, many of whom are voting, to the politic screen, hillary clinton stepped out on to the stage in pembroke pines, florida, and hello, florida. we're going to be watching that from the control booth. rashad, with the -- "wall street journal" has said in places like florida, north carolina, the black early vote turnout is down about 7% or so. but given the fact that barack
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obama is not on the ballot, how do you weigh that number? is it a good number? >> we have seen attacks to early voting. we have seen polling places move. we have seen a whole lot of things that are also at play. there has been an ongoing, steady uptick in black voter turnout since 1993. and that's oftentimes not a story we tell. we think about black turnout, just going up because of barack obama. black folks' participation has been steadily increasing. but that increase has to translate into real changes in terms of policy, in terms of practices. so, yes, barack obama is not at the top of the ticket. but i do think that the history of black civic participation, the history of progressive and democratic victories has consistently relied on black people turning out. black people turning out in high numbers. and i don't think that this election is going to be any different. the opportunity, though, is for democrats and for those who get in the office to recognize that we have a changing tide. we have a changing generation.
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and that we're going to have to deliver, folks are going to have to deliver for black communities. because independent black political power, not simply relying on candidates, not simply relying on democrats, is going to be the wave of the future. so district attorney races, mayoral races, all of these places where real change takes place that impacts people's lives, not just at the top of the ticket. and that's what we have been focusing on. over 1.5 million voter contacts into key states we have made this election cycle. 3 million text messages sent through new high-tech platforms that allow sort of phone banking 3.0 through text messages. it's really exciting, and i do think that on election day, we're going to see black folks once again being the change-makers. >> impressive effort on behalf of color of change. a lot you're trying to do to get the voter turnout. thank you so much. as we mentioned, hillary clinton has taken to the podium in pembroke pines. let's take a short listen to what she is saying. >> i was trying to think about
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this as we were driving. we -- i don't know when we first met, but we were both really, really young. randi weingarten! and along with thanking randi, the president of the aft, let me thank all the educators, all the teachers! i think it's about time we stop scapegoating teachers and start supporting teachers! now, every day in this campaign is exciting. and being here with all of you, the last saturday before election day, really gets me geared up. we are seeing tremendous momentum, large numbers of people turning out, breaking records in a lot of places. now, just in case you didn't notice last night, i've got to say, i was with jay-z and beyonce.
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they were amazing. you can go online and watch it. it was the most extraordinary show. you know, when a famous entertainer says, hey, i want to support you, help get out the vote, that is such a gift. but the thought that went into what they did last night -- my personal favorite part was beyonce had her backup singers and dancers in pant suits. i mean -- but what was really touching to me is both of them talked about what this election means for their daughter and for all of our daughters and our sons. every single child. so i've got to ask you. are you ready? how many of you have already voted? okay. so that means you've got time to
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get everybody else to get out and vote, right? now, did any of you see the debates? i spent four and a half hours standing next to donald trump on that stage, proving once and for all that i have the stamina to be president of the united states! >> all right. clearly a very energized hillary clinton there in pembroke pines, florida. and she is putting that energy out on to that crowd. lots of cheers for her right now. we are also watching what's going on in wilmington, north carolina. that is where melania trump is introducing her husband for his rally. let's take a listen to that. >> and entered the fashion business. donald was born in new york city, surrounded by big buildings and immersed himself early in the real estate business. as soon as we met, however, it became clear that we have something very important in
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common. we both treasure the freedom and democracy that america stands for. and we both treasure all honest and patriotic americans like you. it has been over 500 days since donald announced that he was running for president. he has loved going all over this beautiful country, talking with the american people, hearing your concerns and sharing his solutions. this is so much more than a political campaign. it is a movement. these movements have inspired millions and millions of people and has made us so grateful for your support. it is a movement for all of those who are left behind by broken and weak system. it is a movement of those
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yearning for more, a movement of those working hard, for a better tomorrow, for themselves, their families and their country. this is a movement which is inspiring and inclusive. >> all right, everybody. we're going to be monitoring this from our control booth. in the meantime, we'll take a short break, after which we'll be talking with krystal ball and michael steele about what we can expect wednesday morning. it. 6x cleaning* my teeth are glowing. they are so white. 6x whitening*á i actually really like the 2 steps. step 1, cleans. step 2, whitens. every time i used this together, it felt like leaving the dentist office. crest hd. 6x cleaning*, 6x whiteningá* i would switch to crest hd over what i was using before. crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life.
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48 past the hour. giving you a look at, yep, those umbrellas. mother naturesaking a little bit of a mess of the pembroke pines, florida, rally, where hillary clinton was speaking just a short while ago. we showed you that before the break. but apparently people are going to have to disperse because the rain is coming down pretty hard. but let's bring in democratic strategist, krystal ball, senior fellow, and republican chairman, michael steele, msnbc political analyst. good to see you both, as always.
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>> good to see you too, alex. >> let's talk with you first, michael. is pointing out the other candidate's flaws an effective strategy at this point in the race? we have been hearing that on the campaign trail these last couple of days. haven't voters heard these arguments already? >> oh, my gosh, yes. >> okay. >> it's been the whole campaign. i mean, any semblance to making the final argument for a policy vision or, heck, even the division of what the day after the election will look like with this new president has been abandoned by both candidates up to this point. >> yeah. >> and, you know, the voters i think have baked it all in at this stage. >> yeah. >> the kind of effect -- >> you know what, michael, do me a favor. i'm going to you another question. pull your microphone up. it must have fallen off your lapel there. we learned today the trump campaign is focusing on michigan. they think it's one of their best potential paths to victory, along with pennsylvania.
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reality check here. is michigan a potential win for trump? do you think he can sway voters in his favor? does he have enough time to do it? michael? >> yes. i'm sorry. i got all hooked up here. >> it's all good. >> look. this last-minute push in the numbers and sort of the trend lines that everyone is excited about on the gop side, there are so many other elements they are discounting at this point that's going to make this a hard sell for a closing argument. in other words to see trump turn around states like michigan or wisconsin or florida because the ground game, that effort that has to be in place to turn that vote and to really get it to the polls is just not there. i think a lot of what trump relied on is the fact his folks were excited about him. that would be enough to get the turnout. as we know in politics, excitement is one thing, turnout is something very different. i think that's something that's
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going to come back to haunt the campaign. the rnc to its credit laid down a lot of piping in this race. a lot of that is going to be beneficial to the senate and other down ballot candidates because their organization is built into that structure. >> a great example of what michael is talking about in pennsylvania, rnc and pat toomey senate campaign, they are trying to turn out a different set of voters than the trump campaign is. the trump campaign had this theory they could get these infrequent or first time, white, more rural voters to come out. the toomey campaign is running a more traditional operation, trying to speak to suburban white college-educated women, for example. that lack of overlap is a problem for trump here, as well. >> chris cal, i want to ask about the dishonesty factor. a recent poll found 63% of voters think clinton is
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untrustworthy. 58% think that about trump. how worrisome is this come election day. >> i think she is, based on early voting numbers, doesn't look like a magical silent majority will materialize for donald trump. i think she will be fine for election day. it is a bigger problem when you look forward to governing and you have a republican congress that will remain in republican hands in the house that indicated they want to go forward with these investigations. i think it's terrible after the american people picked this person as a leader, before she is inaugurated, to say we're going to go after her and do everything we can to make sure government doesn't work. i look at those numbers. it's hard for me to understand. when you look at the facts, when you look at the way these two candidates have conducted themselves on the trail, when you look at the things donald trump has said, politico analysis found he lies literally every three minutes. you can't believe much of anything that comes out of his mouth. it's baffling to me these numbers.
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we have to, after this election, look at the media and ask what our own role was in really talking about the true nature of the campaigns and the type of qualities that these candidates brought to the table. >> there will be a lot of mirror turning back on ourselves. michael, quickly. headline wednesday morning will be? >> trump wins. >> ha! >> what? really? >> no the headline, it's going to be a new day in america. >> latinos build a wall to keep trump out of the white house. >> we heard both sides of the coin from you guys. good to see you both. donald trump speaking on the stump. >> by the way, she received the questions, nobody ever says anything about that. can you imagine if i received the questions to the debates? they would call for my immediate
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withdrawal. you don't even hear about it from her.
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that's going to do it for me. i'll be back tomorrow morning 7:00 a.m. two days to go till election day. donald trump in wilmington, north carolina. our next hour originates from there with katy tur anchoring. have a good one. g came a burglao broke into her home and ransacked the place making off with several valuable tuffets. fortunately geico had recently helped her with homeowners insurance. she got full replacement on her tuffets. the burglar was later captured when he was spotted with whey on his face. call geico and see how much you could save on homeowners insurance.
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