good day. it's high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. here is what's helping. president-elect trump new take on the border wall. hear what essaying abohe i he i >> people's heads would be exploding all across the country. >> the trump camp weighs in on the protests across the country and offers a recommendation on what some democrats should do about them. the comey letters why hillary clinton believes they may have derailed her campaign. putting trump's economic plan to the test. could his proposed tax cuts and spending drive up the national debt? new reaction from donald trump giving some details on how he will secure the border, his commends are part of his first sit-down interview since election night and will air on "60 minutes" tonight. >> are you really going to build

a wall? >> yes. >> they're talking about a fence in the republican congress. would you accept a fence? >> for certain areas i would. certain areas, a wall is more appropriate. i'm very good at this. it's called construction. a fence -- >> part wall, part fence? >> there could be fencing. >> his campaign manager and one of his chief advisers are weighing in on anti-trump protests spreading throughout the country. >> if the shoe was on the other foot, people's heads would be exploding across the country that somehow the trump voters would not accept hillary clinton as their president. i think the president of the united states, secretary clinton, bernie sanders, others can come forward and ask for calm and ask for peaceful transition and ask their supporters, which are masquerading as protesters now, many professional and paid by the way, ask them to give this man a chance so that this country can flourish. >> i think they're exaggerating the fears of a donald trump

presidency because they're coming off a campaign where they are disappointed. i'm sure our supporters would have been disappointed had donald trump not won. these are supporters of president obama and hillary clinton. maybe they could say something about this. it's really not the right thing in ademocracy. >> here is house speaker paul ryan this morning trying to distance the party from those being accused of racial violence in the wake of trump's historic win. >> we are the party of lincoln. people who espouse those view, they're not republicans. we don't want them in our party. i'm confident donald trump feels the same way. there's no place for that. protest, as long as protests are peaceful, if people want to express themselves that way, that's what we can do in this country. that's what the first amendment is all about. new today, hillary clinton is weighing in for first time on how the fbi's decision to re-examine her use of a private e-mail server may have led to the election outcome. clinton made her comments during a conference call with donors yesterday. she blamed comey's letter to congress for stopping her

momentum 11 days before election day. saying that the second letter sent two days before the election, which didn't reveal anything significant from the newly discovered e-mails, further motivated trump voters to turn out. clinton did not accuse comey of partisanship. keith ellison, who has thrown his hat in the ring for dnc chair, had this reaction to her comments. >> did not help. it changed the conversation. we started talking about this e-mail stuff again. now the outcome is that donald trump has somebody who he is looking at to put on his cabinet who is a lobbiest to private advertise social security. >> president-elect trump is keeping a low profile today. he works to nail down the core staff that will help him transition to the white house. hallie jackson joins us from washington. what do we know about the names on trump's short list? good morning. >> reporter: hi. good morning to you. nice to see you on a sunday afternoon. i think that there's a lot of

talk about what names we are going to see on the short list. i'm told by a source close to donald trump, the president-elect, that reince priebus is the front runneror chief of staff. this is key because once you put that piece in place, the rest of the dominos fall out from there. when you look at other names on the cabinet, we have two sources familiar with the discussion who say that linda mcmann is being considered as a person in the administration, maybe as head of commerce. there's discussion where she might fit in. we are hearing more names come out, more discussion about people who would be in top level positions in washington. i think we will start to see movement on this over the next 24 to 448 hours. kellyanne conway, who is expected to have a role in a trumpe administration, said decisions will come imminently. she, of course, as you can see on the screen here, a pollster,

formerly supported ted cruz but backed donald trump and helped to run his campaign. rudy giuliani is another name that has come up frequently. he has made no secret of his desire to be a part of the administration. listen to what he had to say today. >> whatever i want to be, i will discuss with the president-elect. that's the best way to do it. not to create more rumors. that's between him and me. i have a very, very full life. it would have to be something where i felt he really needed me. not that i would be the only one that could do it but maybe i could do it different or better than somebody else. >> rudy giuliani playing coy about what position he may or may not want. possibly attorney general, possibly the state department. he has been as you know donald trump prizes loyalty. this is something everybody close to him talks about. he likes those who are loyal to him and wants to have some of those folks in his administration. giuliani has been one of his top and most vocal and most visible

surrogates throughout the campaign, even when it looked as though trump -- the president-elect's controversies were going to sink him. >> there's suggestion that trump will take a victory tour to the states he won. >> reporter: right. during the campaign, he was a candidate who would go out and would draw thousands of people at his rallies. there was discussion that perhaps he would go out and do this victory lap around the country to thank some of the people who put him in office. kellyanne conway was asked about this. she did not rule it out, but we don't know much yet about the president-elect's schedule. we know today he is in new york. we do have what's being called a press pool following him, at least right now. he has broken with tradition, for example, last week by not alas vegas the press pool to travel with him. hopefully, we will get more indications about what his schedule holds this coming week. >> i have to tell you, i thought after the election would you get time to breathe. but i don't know anymore. >> reporter: it's okay. we're good. >> hallie jackson, thank you.

let's talk more about this. a national reporter for "the new york times" and senior he had tore for "business insider" and an msnbc contributor. what more can you tell us about secretary clinton's call to donors yesterday? >> it's interesting. in this call she basically -- she wanted to lay blame on the fbi director for saying he was the one who stopped the momentum. you saw hillary clinton kind of doing what presidential candidates have done in the past in 200 karl rove said why the election was close was because there was a late conversation about a dui that he got. other presidents have focused on that, bill clinton was talking about this idea that people were talking about the chinese giving money to his campaign and that's why he had issues when he was -- even though he beat h.w. bush. really, it's one of those things where candidates are trying to find a reason to blame other people other than themselves. hillary clinton in some ways was a deeply flawed candidate. there were a lot of reasons why

comey's press conference would affect her. if she was a strong candidate and people really believed her and trusted her, then they wouldn't be an issue. this is hillary clinton kind of blaming people when should she look at herself. >> is there a thread of truth to it? is it a fair point that perhaps this motivated them? >> i think two things can be true at the same time t. can be true that hillary clinton would have won if not for the comey letter. and then if hillary clinton had been a better candidate, she would have been able to win in spite of the comey letter. in any close election, you can point to a huge number of things and say if this one thing had been different, the outcome would have been different. did he she didn't need that many more votes for us to have a different discussion. she's probably going to win the popular vote once they are done counting. so i think -- on some level, it's fair to say the comey letter hurt her. but there was a series of mistakes going back years, going back to her choice to spend 2013 and 2014 making as much money as

she could, giving speeches to goldman sachs and it undermined her trust in her. >> did she make sugstions about potential missteps that maybe they wouldn't have done? >> i haven't heard them say that. i think that what we're going to see in the clinton campaign is soul searching about what her perception and how she goes forward. are we going to see her give speeches again? are we going to see her have a role in the democratic party? she's not the leader, but it's going to be -- it's going to inform how democrat goes forward. >> let's talk about our new president-elect. i have to get used to saying that. trump gets ready to receive intel briefings. look at this. do you think the reality of being commander in chief is starting to sink in for trump? >> i don't know. my sense from the reporting is

that he himself was shocked to have won the election. but donald trump is 70 years old. he has 40 years in public life to date. his personality is what it is. he is an erratic, vengeful guy. i think that -- i certainly hope that the presidency will weigh on him in a way that causes him to behave in a manner more measured to be careful when he does things, because his mistakes will become a lot more costly now than they ever have been in his previous public life. but i don't have a ton of hope for donald trump to change. i don't think he has changed in the past. >> i want to ask you -- i know you are writing about fear of minority groups driving these the anti-trump protests. a lot of people saying, have the democrats tell their people, if you will, to calm down. do you think that perhaps maybe he should come forward and try to -- it sounds cheesy, but heal the nation with a speech or say something? >> i think it's going to be about his policies.

if you puts rudy giuliani at the head, if he becomes attorney general and stop and frisk is expanded and police departments -- the doj doesn't want to investigate police departments, it doesn't matter what he says, it's going to all come down to whether or not people of color and african-americans feel comfortable with him as a commander in chief and if they feel like they're getting justice. i have a story out yesterday, the mother of eric garner has written a letter to the department of justice begging for them to make a decision about her son's case because she feels like once trump is in office, they're either not going to give her the justice she wants or that they're going to completely ignore the case. that's real fears that people have. it's going to be up to donald trump whether or not he will treat people fairly. >> you mentioned giuliani. i want to play for you what he said about the blind trust trump is setting up so his children can take over of the business. >> it's unrealistic to say you are going to take the business away from the three people running it and give it to some

independent person. remember, they can't work in the government because of the government rule against nepotism. you would be putting them out of work. i think you are going to have to fashion something that is very comfortable, something that's fair, something that assures the american people as he said he has no interest in what's going on in the business. >> what's your reaction? we left the finance question for you. >> first of all, i wish we would all stop calling it a blind trust. it's not a blind trust. >> what should we call it? >> it's a trust. the idea with the blind trust is that you don't know what's in the trust. up don't know what your assets are invested in and somebody runs them who doesn't take orders from you. neither of those things is true. donald trump obviously talks regularly with his children. they will have influence in the administration even if they can't technically go to work in it. then he is going to know what the assets are. that's even -- even if you were trying to do this in a way that's transparent, that's harder to do. he owns buildings with his name

on them. even if you gave the assets to somebody else, he would know what his investments were and what actions he could take. >> what's the buzz? does that seem to be the biggest concern about this handover? >> i would say no. if it would have be lower than 60 on my list. i'm afraid of international geopolitical crises. he is fiddling with land use thing in some city where he owns a building. that's unfortunate. there may be opportunities for him to enrich himself. i'm so busy worries about over things that could matter for the world that this -- what would normally be a blockbuster issue of conflict of interest is relatively unimportant. >> here is the thing. it turns out we have more time. i will let you come up with something brilliant to say. here is the deal. we cannot live in the sustained state of concern and panic and being angry. it's not a sustainable way to live. that's not the way people want to live. moving forward, what can we say? what can we do? what are you telling yourself,

frankly, just wait and see? a speech won't work. is the proof in the pudding and wait and see what happens? >> it's all about waiting and see what happens. when i have been talking to trump supporters who are excited about him, they are saying that one of his supporters called him a wild card. even the people who supported him don't actually know what they were supporting. they think they know what law and order is. they think they know what being making america great is. if he doesn't build a wall and he is talking about building a fence, if he is talking about amending obamacare and not repealing it, that's going to make even his own base very angry. i think even the people who put him into office are actually in a wait and see. they're happy, they're excited. but they don't know what to expect. >> i promised my journalism p professors i would never use the phrase time would tell but -- breaking news from new zealand. an earthquake struck triggering

a tsunami warning. what do we know? >> reporter: this is a night many across new zealand will likely never forget. it's just after midnight. folks are in bed or getting ready to go to sleep. suddenly this massive shaking jolts you out of bed. the quake was 7.8. the walls shook. windows shattered. hundreds of people were forced into the streets. the epicenter was near the christchurch city, which is the second largest in new zealand. people were feeling the impact as far as 150 miles north in the capital. one eyewitness described the terrifying experience. >> it was horrible. it started off with just a little bit of a roll. and then it just -- it must have lasted about 40, 45 seconds. i was trying to get up. the ground -- because the ground was moving. you can't do anything.

>> i interviewed another eyewitness, a young man from los angeles, no stranger to earth qua earthquakes. he said he never felt anything so powerful. there was a tsunami warning, sirens blaming across christchurch. the first waves already hit. this is according to local authorities there. they were not as high as expected. that doesn't mean we're in the clear. the extent of the damage is still unknown. no confirmed casualties yet, which is something of a miracle. this could change, unfortunately. do keep in mind, christchurch is recovering from the 2011 earthquake that killed 185. even though this was a more powerful quake, the hope is that the damage at least to life will be much less. >> we hope so. thank you. forming an administration and keeping promises he made on the campaign trail. will ask renay elmers what the greatest challenge facing a

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to politics now. a phone call with campaign donors saturday, hillary clinton placed some of the blame for her loss on james comey. according to "the washington post," clinton said his letter raising questions about her e-mail security, quote, stopped our momentum just 11 days before the election. let's bring in howard dean, former dnc chair and susan delpersio. thanks for joining me. >> great to be here. >> let's stick with this question. >> thank you. >> if it hadn't been for comey's letter, would clinton have won? >> yeah, i think so. this is all sort of would have, could have, should have. it's a hockey game. could you say what if this and what if that. there's no question that comey's

actions 11 days before stopped the momentum. the polls showed that. i think -- i think we said at the time, i thought comey made a terrible error and had no idea what he was doing. okay. it's all over. the election is done. we have to move on. >> do you agree? >> to governor dean's credit, all along he has been saying we -- the democrats cannot take anything for granted. i actually agreed with him. it wasn't just the comey letter. as we see the numbers come out, she thought -- secretary clinton was hoping to use the obama coalition to get out votes, she was hoping for an increase of hispanic voters to increase her numbers. that didn't happen. i agree, it's a would have, could have, should have. just to put the fault at one person, director comey, is a big mistake. i think that looks like a little too much sour grapes. >> what's the mood among your colleagues, the republicans who

didn't support trump? what will you do now? will people start to fall in line? >> i do the same thing every time a new president is elected, i'm hopeful. i hope we see great things from president-elect trump. as a -- running on a more populist message and one of the first things he talked about was infrastructure. i think that's something he can get democrats on board with. if you add tax reform as those two things it could be a very good start for president-elect trump. >> the howard, the democratic -- >> i agree with that. i agree with that. >> do you? >> i absolutely do. i have worries about how the infrastructure will get financed. but i absolutely agree. a decent tax reform passage is possible. hopefully, it will be a bipartisan one. i think infrastructure is great. it would be great to start off this presidency -- obviously, i had strong disagreements with donald trump -- with something that's positive, that's beneficial to the country. >> i was about to ask you, the

democratic party lost conol of the white house, senate and house of representatives for the next two years. what now? what's the democratic game plan going into 2017? >> well, you know, i can tell you what i think it should be. we have to reach out for young -- to young people. we have to re-do the democratic national committee. i am considering doing that. and i don't -- although, i would be happier in a supportive role to a chairperson i thought was great. we have to have a full-time chair. young people is critical. we doing the 50 straight strategy, redoing tech and getting young people who voted for hillary clinton into the political system, i think that's the way of salvation. in four years, when our team got there, we had nothing. we didn't have the house, senate or the presidency. four years later, we had the house, senate and presidency. this can be done quickly. but it has to be intense and it has -- it demands full-time

concentration. >> you mentioned your interest or you announced your interest in chairing the dnc. is that the main lesson, reaching out to the forgotten voter, but young people and there's a chunk of american that feel like they have been neglected? >> i think that's true. this is not the only country that has seen this. it's the same as brexit, same as the right wing polish government in hungary and -- the right wing polish government in poland and hungary. we will see it in france. this is a problem being left behind by globalization. it's our job to make sure they're not left behind. that means changing the tax code. the trouble is president-elect trump talks about changing the tax code by giving people in his tax bracket huge tax breaks. that's not going to happen. we have to do something for the people at the bottom and middle, not just people at the top. >> go ahead. >> plus, he has talked about

being able to lower the corporate tax rate so you get companies coming back in to the united states and we get their tax dollars. that will be one of the biggest and the fastest things he can change. >> susan, here are some of the names i was reading for some of the cabinet positions. rudy giuliani, chris christie, newt gingrich and laura ingram. do those names inspire confidence? >> i'm not going to speculate on -- those names are out there. what will inspire confidence or not is who he actually selects. let's not focus on the names being thrown out there. everyone has their own -- >> good point. >> let's see who he puts in. once he puts someone in, then we can judge. i'm not going to judge before that. >> i want to speak to this only because there's so many people watching who are part of this. but there are petitions online with -- you know -- millions of signatures pushing for the electorates to change their

votes. is this a realistic way to actually keep him from making it to the white house? what do you say to those people who are watching? >> we should get rid of the electoral college. it's completely unfair for the second time in 16 years, we have a president who didn't win the popular vote. that's outrageous. that should be changed. we need rank choice voting, which was passed in maine. we need the california primary system. members of the republican and the democratic party can forced towards the middle in order to win elections instead of towards the extreme. we need very big electoral reform in this country. we can't do that with donald trump. but we can build that in the next four years and get it ready to go. >> we shouldn't take away the fact that donald trump won the presidency and not to undermine the legitimacy of his presidency. >> he didn't mind undermining barack obama's legitimacy. i think questioning the electoral college is nothing compared to questioning his birth certificate. should we ask for donald trump's birth certificate? >> at the ends of the day,

president-elect trump was elected fairly by the system and he should be given every chance to prove himself. >> i have to leave it there. >> i would agree with that. only wish they had done that with president obama. >> i said the same thing under president obama, actually. >> you did. to your credit, you did. you are a reasonable, thoughtful person, as always. >> i will leave it on that moment. howard dean, susan, thank you for your time. >> thank you. still ahead, the new uncertainty for more than 700,000 undocumented young immigrants brought here by their parents.

welcome back. at the half hour, here is what we're monitoring. anti-trump protests happening across the country. thousands more demonstrators are expected to hit the streets today, including here in new york city. morgan radford is at trump

tower. what do we expect to see? >> reporter: we expect to see more than 3,000 people in just over an hour from now. they're going to begin marching from trump international hotel and they're going to move here right behind me to trump towers. if you can imagine yesterday, this was almost standing room only as more than 10,000 people showed up here in the streets. they were chanting things like we reject the president-elect. they were carrying signs that said things like my body, my choice. we saw lots of groups coming together to be very vocal about the causes they care about. listen. >> i felt it was important to demonstrate with the people of the city. we have a right as citizens of the united states to demonstrate together peacefully. it's not about looting. it's about expressing our anger. >> i teach my family all the things that we believe in and i teach my son, they're not the values of donald trump. >> it's a peaceful protest. my voice i think on facebook and

other media is a small voice. this is louder. >> reporter: i want to give you a sense of the affect that these type of protests have on an area like this. this is a heavily commercial center. if you like behind me, you can see where the streets are barricaded off by the new york police department. stores like tiffany and company and prada. these stores in the snext six weeks they can bring in six months' worth of revenue. people were not able to get in and out of the stores yesterday because of the protests. we will keep our eye on it and see if it happens today. >> that's a good point. i forgot about the fact that the holidays are so close. fears of deportation and harassment. the uncertain future for millions hispanics under a trump administration. why more latinos voted for donald trump than expected. simulation initiated.

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the first amendment says we can protest and call on our government to address grievances. these folks are telling donald trump that if he tries to move out on his plan to have a deportation squad, to harm americans, and if he has -- he try dozies to do that, we're goo stand and say no. >> that was congressman keith ellison this morning defending the anti-trump protesters and the concerns motivating them with deportation being one of the most immediate fears shared by those protected by president obama's deferred action program. joining me is a professor at the university of texas and an msnbc contributor. do you believe these fears are valid? >> absolutely. there's a lot of fear in the hispanic community right now. two levels of fear. for those persons who have undocumented persons and their family, the fear is at a fever pitch. i was talking to a friend of mine, a high-level municipal

official in los angeles. she was telling me that families are afraid for their kids to go to school. they're not taking their kids to school because they're afraid there might be dragnets when they go to pick up the kids from school. there's this tangible fear that we're already seeing days after the election. i also know that folks who are dreamers are also feeling that immediate fear of what happens to their status on january 21 after a president donald trump comes into office. >> i want to follow up on what you said. let me add senator bernie sanders thoughts on this. here is the thing. we heard senator sanders and you

talked about congressman ellison as we heard earlier. what are we going to do? moving forward, are you gearing up for this fight over immigration? he is not president yet. >> right. i think you see a couple of different strategies here. you see a grass-roots-based strategy where organizations are saying, we will protest, we will keep in the streets, we will keep our voice heard continually. then you see the more governmental approach where you are seeing cities saying, say democratic cities or cities that have friendlier policies towards immigrants saying, what can we do with our municipal laws? then also at the state level, what can we do with our state-based legislation to protect undocumented persons, to protect dreamers, immigrant families? you will see a range of responses within the latino community. the eye on the prize is going to be two years, four years from now and seeing someone at the top of the ticket who can better protect latinos at the national level.

>> there's been so much talk of unity. does president-elect trump have any real hope of uniting americans after alienating so many of them through this campaign rhetoric? >> well, that is the hope. within that fear you do see some folks saying, i am hoping, i am praying to god that what he said was just rhetoric to get him elected, that it was just him trying to be angry and get folks mobilized by anger. once he gets into office, he is going to tone down. we see cautious optimism among some components of the latino community. but the fear is still pervasive, whether it's the flat out panic that we're seeing in some families or the fear of saying, i really hope he doesn't do what he said. it's across the board. >> here is the challenge with that rhetoric. a surge in hate crimes has been reported by the souther poverty law center. is this a reflection of what lies ahead in the next four years? >> i hope not.

but i fear that at least in the short-term, we probably will see that. we see two groups of persons in this country that are very frustrated. on the one side, we see trump supporters frustrated by the obama administration. and now we're seeing latinos a folks who did not support trump frustrated as well. it's coming to a head. i think that the next couple of months are so critical in a trump administration for him to try to unite both of these groups together. saying to his supporters, let's calm down, let's roll up our sleeves, let's get to work and telling those folks who did not vote for him, i am your president and i am going to work to better this country for all and not keep to that divisive nature that got him elected. >> i have to talk about the fact that exit poll data suggests president-elect trump almost -- landed almost one-third of the latino vote. that's a stark contrast to the expectations. where did the democrats miss the mark? what do you hear from latinos

who voted for trump? >> we saw that exit polls had latinos voting for trump at 29%. however, we do see two of main reputable latino pollsters challenge that. latino decisions had latino turnout at 18% for trump. so i'm resting more at that 20% mark. nevertheless, you would think why are latinos coming out to vote for trump after the campaign he ran? quite frankly, the same reason a lot of white supporters came out for trump. because he had that perspective of we've got to improve our economic situation, we've got to turn the corner. i want to change things for you. i think you did see a lot of economic optimism among those latinos that voted for trump. >> good discussion. thank you for talking with me today. donald trump's money plan for the country, what he can really do to help the economy coming up. coming up in the next hour, former libertarian vp nominee

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it means really soon. of course, that time line and that choice belongs to one man, president-elect trump. but look, he is filling many positions. over there at trump tower, we feel as busy as when we were winning this campaign. >> that was trump campaign manager kellyanne conway on the soon to come trump chief of staff announcement and other appointments. joining me is renee ellmers. thank you for calling in. >> thank you for accommodating me. >> i know you are having a busy day. president-elect trump campaigned on the fact that he would drain the swamp in washington. many of the names being floated for positions in his administration with washington insiders. if that's the case, how will he

dr drain the swamp? >> he is working with those who have surrounded him and supported him and have been his advice and inspiration all along. it's natural for him to surround himself with these individuals, too. i think he's actually going to have a mix of individuals. i don't think that it's going to be just completely new people to the scene. i think he has to have a mix. look, i know from my own experience going to washington, having never served in congress before, you have to have those who have been there with experience to help guide you. i think that that's what you are going to see. i think it's going to be a really good blend and a good balance. >> i want to ask you about a new interview with the wall street journal. president-elect trump seemed to be walking back on some of the strongest positions he took on the campaign trail saying obamacare may be amended rather than fully repealed and that he hasn't given much thought to the threat of appointing a special prosecutor to lock up hillary clinton. will this anger his supporters? would you recommend he try to go after secretary clinton?

>> i think first of all, when we're talking about the affordable care act and the repeal and replacement, i think what he is talking about is reflecting on the conversation he had with president obama when he was there meeting with him. it has been our plan in congress as republicans, our replacement plan has always included the very things that he is reflecting upon. whether you take that as revising the system or replacing it, either way, the accomplishment was always going to be there and the goal was always going to be there to make sure that we keep our children on the insurance coverage up to age 26 and those with pre-existing conditions would be taken care of and not turned away from the healthcare plan. he is keeping in line with really what we have been talking about. as far as senator clinton and the situation, let's remember that things have changed over time. when donald trump, president-elect trump had made the comment about appointing a

special prosecutor, we were in a position, none of us knew there was an ongoing fbi investigation into the clinton foundation. let's let the fbi continue the work that they're doing. this is a man who knows how to prioritize issues and look at them from the perspective of what is the most important issues in america. this right now is probably very low on his priority list. >> you think supporters will be okay with it? you saw the rallies where people were screaming lock her up. sometimes it was brutal. >> it was. and i will tell you, unfortunately, the issue here is hillary clinton. he she is responsible for this. there wouldn't have been investigations -- >> but she's not responsible for the v-- >> no one is responsible for the vitriol. there's so many out there that felt the accountability was not being taken. there are so many who believe that hillary clinton has never fully taken responsibility.

spilling milk on the floor is a mistake. running through a stop sign is a mistake. putting an unsecure server in your basement in your home when you know that's a risk of national security is a different issue. >> i want to jump in here. i want to get this in. according to the nation magazine, there were 868 fewer polling stations in 2016. in your home state of north carolina, there were 27 fewer polling places. in your opinion, could that have suppressed the vote in your state? is that a fair criticism? >> i do not. i think that was an issue of efficiency and making sure the system was running well. there was no one -- there were a couple of precincts in durham where there were interruptions in the process. time was added on. there were accommodations made. they did make changes with the republican general assembly when it came to voter issues.

but that was solely at the board of elections and to improve the system, not to keep anyone from voting. >> what about early voting? i'm hearing there were some many places where they had those opportunities. >> there again, i think what they did was they implemented early voting sites as needed based on former times and the turnout that was taking place so they could be more effective, save money in the system and make sure that they were doing it efficiently and effectively rather than just simply opening it wide when maybe they didn't have as much of a turnout as they should have. to my understanding -- this is something very important to us, especially since republicans in north carolina are in charge of the board of elections, we want to make sure the process is fair for everyone. i believe they achieved that goal. >> i'm sure that conversation will continue. north carolina congresswoman renee ellmers, thank you for your time. >> thank you. creating more jobs and helping the working class. what president-elect trump can do immediately to make that happen after taking office.

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when donald trump won the presidential election, he made a promise in his first tweet to help the forgotten man and woman of america. can he do that with his economic plan? let's dig in. joining me now rick newman. good afternoon to you. in your latest column you lay out trump's economic targets. four categories. he hits them, you say he can bring back the prosperity he promised. where do you see at this point his biggest challenge? >> i think the biggest challenge is going to be connecting the actions of things that congress can do to actual job creation in the places of the country where we really need jobs. trump basically has a supply side economic plan. he is saying if you cut everybody's taxes, individuals and businesses, put more spending money in people's pockets, they will spend the money and that will somehow create more jobs.

the hard part is how does that actually create jobs? it's not clear how he's going to do that. his trade policies are supposed to create new incentives for companies to build more manufacturing facilities here in the united states. but it's not clear that his incentives will work. it's also not clear if those will end up doing more harm than good. we don't know if he's going to do what he said. finally, the big infrastructure program we have been hearing about, that's probably the most direct way that congress can do something, spend money in a way that actually will create jobs. >> can he fix the infrastructure and build a wall and do all of that and reduce the national debt? it sounds impossible. >> it is pretty darn hard. his infrastructure plan does not require very much federal spending. basically, there's one tax incentive there. the idea is to get private investors interested in these projects. this is a thing that happens out there. there are groups that invest in infrastructure projects. for this to work, there have to be tolls or user fees or some

kind of revenue that actually goes back to th investors. most of our roads aren't funded that way. again, he has an interesting idea. but it just doesn't seem like the infrastructure part is going to apply to very many projects. it's unlikely that every place where we have road construction suddenly there will be new tolls. i don't think voters will go for that either. a lot of unanswered questions on that. >> you touched on this for a bit. i want to look at the numbers. trump wants to create 25 million jobs over the course of ten years. that's about 2.5 million jobs per year. is that a stretch? >> that is doable. here is the catch. right now, our pace of job creation is 2.4 million jobs per year. we're almost there. the catch is, you can't have a recession in that ten-year period. when you have a recession, you lose jobs. when you average it out -- recessions just happen. in fact, it's been a while since the last recession. in a way, there's probably a reasonable likelihood we will have a recession during the next

four years. that's when all the damage gets done. in order to compensate for the jobs lost during a recession, you probably have to create 4 million or 5 million jobs during peak years. that would be double the pace of job creation we have now in order to account for a recession. that's a stretch. >> we obviously want the results. but there's a big question mark today then as far as how he is going to this. >> we may not have the results four years from now. >> thank you for talking with me today. still ahead, what's fuelling a rise in hate crime since the election? ncaa president and ceo cornell brooks joins me next. revented. and i'm doing all i can to help prevent another one. a bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.