the same amount of time is less than 100,000 votes. virginia and ohio. but seriously. florida, 11,000 votes. since 1992 in seven presidential elections. think about what that says about how divided the battleground states really are. and ohio maintains its nation leading streak, the buckeye state, has voted for the presidential winner every year since 1964. the only state and longest current active streak. that's all for tonight. with all due respect starts now. our magic show tonight, donald trump's great escape, chuck schumer tries to piece it zbet a transition team tends to

make bad press vanish. first a new contender for secretary of state who has appeared out of thin air. late this afternoon, our colleague joe scarborough reported that trump's team is now considering south carolina governor nikki haley. that position seemed like it was headed either toward john bolt honor the form he new york city mayor, rudolph giuliani. many people have been unhappy with those two choices and were eager to see other people brought into the midst. this comes amidst signs of continued dissension, disruptions within trump world. today many people in trump world tried tamp down the notion that things were going off the rails. kellyanne conway spent the day sending a message of calm saying building a government from scratch is tough stuff. >> you don't form a federal government overnight. these are very serious issues.

the president himself is very happy with the how the trans significan going. and he's been presented with any number of choices within each of the agencies and departments and he is making the tough decisions. we have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to those positions. >> in case that number wasn't getting through, trump went on his favorite social media mega phone today, the twitter, to dispute reports that there are any troubles. so this haley thing is big. no other major announcements today. where do things stand? >> we talk about it yesterday and we'll keep talking about it for a while. to me they're not running away in terms of making the major appointments on who will take big jobs? that's not where the disarray is. it is more these reports about infighting and more importantly, that they seem really far behind in terms of doing the bigger job

of staffing the government. they don't seem to quit to hire the 4,000 people to be in contact with the existing agencies, to be facing with the obama administration. that's where they're way behind. they should take their time and get it right and they're not really behind on that. >> i agree there are problems and i'm not trying to minimize them. the transition i covered was 1992. they were scrambling, beset by policy controversies, gays in the military, refugees. if we get a week down road and there is no progress that we can see, but i don't think they're all that far behind. >> bottom line is bloomberg reporting there is no contact going on between the trump transition and the major agencies. i think they are behind by measure. >> i have no idea. >> the more reason examples, we have a weird history here. 1992 is now a long time ago. 2000 was kind of screwy because of the recount and not knowing who the president was for so

long. barack obama's team were way ahead. curve by should historical standard. let's talk about nikki haley. you pointed out. a lot of pushback for a lot of reasons. against rudolph giuliani, d about his conflicts with people, and the terror watch list. nikki haley would be a hugely positive sign symbolically. i don't know what kind of depth she has on foreign policy. just the notion of choosing a main stream republican nonwhite woman in that job would be a huge step on trump's part. let's say jeff sessions stays in. if you have ted cruz, nikki haley, jamie diamond at treasury, that would get a lot of people's attention. >> a the love ifs there.

>> a lot of contention. >> the left will be unhappy about anything. those are picks would be really different from some of the names we've been hearing until now. >> sorry about that. we ran long on that but whatever. donald trump already has court controversy bigly with this election of steve bannon. but there is more. two new ruckuses being raised over news reports over trump's maneuvers. this have the first has to do with an nbc news story that says trump is requesting top secret clearance for his son-in-law, so that kushner can sit in on the daily briefing. he put out a different story saying he was considering security clearances for his three adult children. he said nothing about kushner has some citing a federal anti-nepotism law that prevents presidents from pointing family nobody's jobs. the second was about frank

gaffney. during he will advise the trump transition team on national security issues. dwafny has been vocally anti-muslim and has promoted islam phobic positions in the past including president obama being a muslim. trump's team claims that gaffney has no role on the transition team. how big a deal are these specific controversies that are causing a ruckus to be raised? >> still a question of why it was so badly reported that gaffney was involved and the language they have given us still isn't clear. just the fact that they let him be involved poe tlings is a troubling thing. one of donald trump's legacies as a manager is a matters of law, regarding the foundation, his business. just not buttoned down. not the standards you need in the federal government on. jared kushner. i will be involved.

people can say it violates rooms, pete williams of nbc thinks it is fine. >> on the basis of a legal authority. >> it is pete's opinion. the country for the good of public policy should deal with the reality. jarrod will be involved. probably not inside the government. probably not. let's figure out what the right standards are. what is permissible, what she do and press on that but let's not act like this isn't going to happen. he will be relying on jared for advice. >> we've talked already about the trump business ventures and how that will work. that is really problematic, especially when you have them putting up profit stuff on the dot gov website on neat president and first lady. frank gaffney, the key issue is, is he involved or not? if he is, it is poison. >> one of two options.

>> hugely problematic. not the kind of person -- >> if he had any involvement at all, they need to learn the lesson and not do stuff like that. >> specially problems trump has caused. mitch mcconnell was reelected today as the senate majority leader. bigger news though came on the democratic swhid they voted for their leadership positions. yesterday we heard lame duck party leader harry reid taking after trump. today his successor went to the cameras. in his first press conference he announced some new additions on join him in the leadership team including two senators, a rust moderate, joe man chon. he began by saying, they were ready to work with trump on

shared objectives while vowing to fight the president-elect whenever the party is under assault. schumer called to not take working class americans for granted. >> we need to be the party that speaks to and works on behalf of all americans. and a bigger, bolder, sharper edge, the economic message, that talks about how people in the middle class and those struggling to make it there can do better. >> so we've talked about the democratic party in crisis. schumer's moves are some of the first signs of the post election party trying to get its act together. based on what you just saw, how is he doing as somebody trying on grapple with the new reality? >> i think chuck schumer has been waiting for a long time to be the leader of the party in the senate. and he's been thinking about how to do it. he hoped to do it in the circumstances that he finds the

party in. >> you don't think, he was saying i'll do this with president trump? >> these are only cosmetic things at this point. the proof will be in the proverbial pudding. how do they advance? but in material of the leadership team, that is a big ten party. a leadership team goes for bernie sanders over here and joe mansion over there. >> they say schumer used terms like a bigger sharper message. they need working measures to maybe even work with trump on. thought rhetoric and new people. >> this is not the time to be putting forward policy proposals. this is transition.

even if you don't think it is the time, none of this matters. better than nothing but you still have -- bold leaders in place. it did not change leaders. >> i agree. but if he did not have that spectrum, he would be getting hammered. too far left or too far -- >> better than nothing? >> please. >> better than nothing. >> up next, donald trump ditching media for a family dinner. we had a spy on the inside. ir e. liberty did what? yeah, with liberty mutual all i needed to do to get an estimate was snap a photo of the damage and voila! voila! (sigh) i wish my insurance company had that... wait! hold it... hold it boys... there's supposed to be three of you... where's your brother? where's your brother? hey, where's charlie? charlie?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you. liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance

the president-elect was in trump tower and locked up tight for the evening. trump and his family took it on the hoof, on the lam. how do we know that's where he went? the 21 club correspondent kate

smith seen here hovering behind the president-elect was there when trump and his family arrived. we caught one miss smith in the bloomberg hallway and asked her to file this report. >> last night my colleagues and i were having dinner at the 21 club and we noticed a verier well known person behind us. it was ivanka trump. then 20 minutes later in came in entire trump clan. maybe half a dozen people got up to clap for him. he ordered a $36 burger and a virgin bloody mary. we did hear that he was talking about a potential female press secretary. >> wow! stellar reporting. now knowing the president-elect's whereabouts is a major break in protocol and one that was called unacceptable in its stwamt that trump's excursion. this was not the first time that trump has shunned his press corps. his spokesperson told reporters

that a so-called protective pool hasn't officially set up and they will eventually have all the access that they have ever had under any president. every incoming president invariably claims that he won by going over the heads of the press corps and then he bridles when he gives up his privacy for the case. enter donald trump. arguing that it is irrelevant. the privacy was more or less sacrosanct when he entered the public arena. will he be brought to heel or will he be the guy that says, screw it. i'm going to do what i want. >> i'm optimistic and hopeful but the press has to be diligent and we need to talk about in it terms of the that you can's interest. we need to be with the president-elect. it is our job to cover him in the world in which we live,

kennedy assassination, 9/11. >> reagan assassination attempt. >> just essential that this exist. and what i don't want is for this fight to become such a lightning rod as important as it is, that we don't think about all the areas in which we fight so there is the american public not just wants but needs and deserves of this administration. >> press has an obligation to try on hold donald trump accountable against all of the norms that we expect from every president. republican and democrat. this is not a more important norm. >> the most powerful and important person in the world. if something happens to him, the public deserves to know the moment as quickly as possible that thing has happened in case he is intoday pass zpatd the power has to be transferred to another officer. vice president or someone else.

it is important that the public deserves to know that and the president should be respectful enough that the public that elect them to say okay, this is the price of being president of the united states. i will willingly and in some ways even gladly. >> 1993, that white house started to change things. they closed the access to the media. to the press office. they made a number of changes. when i said and other reportes. to the clinton people, you can't do this this way. this has never been done this way. them we don't care. never been done this way? we're not playing by those rules. we're playing by different rules. some of the rules perhaps are arbitrary, antiquated. but the basic function must be allowed. they cannot cut off the public's access to the president of the united states of the united states and the president-elect capriciously. they have to adhere to the norms. they're norms for a reason. >> president can't out in the middle of the night, nightclubing. >> we'll talk to someone who

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>> thanks for having me. thank you. >> tell us why hillary clinton lost the presidential election. >> well, she won the popular vote but lost with the electoral college. and a lot of that has to do with, this whole election was about people wanting to feel like they mattered. you had african-americans who have been saying for the past two years that black lives matter. even bernie sanders saying their voices did not matter in the democratic party. and i think you will rural working class folks saying, donald trump is speaking to us because we do matter. and so in essence, i think the democratic party has to get back to making sure people, one, understand people are listening to them and two, that we appreciate them and know that they do matter. and that's where the fight is about the future of the democratic party. >> whose fault is that it that didn't happen in this election? >> i don't know if there is one individual that is at fault. i think this has been simmering a long time.

partly because i think our state parties have not gotten the love and the support that they so desperately need. the front line, the front line of having a strong party is the grassroots level. and that is state parties. so we have to once again invest in state parties. i know here in south carolina, the only way that we break through is if we have a national partner that can help us and provide us the resources, the talent and know-how they have in washington, d.c. and we got the muscle down here if south carolina. but you have to have that partnership. >> a large part of the democratic electorate, particularly the part that was in favor of the bernie sanders in the nomination fight, looks at the wikileaks e-mails and other piece of evidence and says the dnc was corrupt and rigged the entire process to give hillary clinton the nomination and to screw bernie sanders. do you agree with that?

>> listen, i think there was a lot of long time relationships that people had with the clinton administration and probably was too close. listen, i even had a friendly relationship with a lot of folks in the clinton campaign, but i also had a lot of friends on the bernie sanders campaign as well. even some of my staff was there. so one of the things that we have to do. we have to make people trust the system again. we have to make them trust party again. the only way that we do that is by showing them, and all these people on the grassroots level. show them we respect them. that we will invest in them. that's how you get them to once again come back to the party. >> if you became the chair of the party, what would you do? in a concrete way, what would you do to assure the parts of the party feel like the dnc has been stacked against them? what would you do to make them believe the dnc was playing fair going forward?

the operative word was going forward. you can't go back and clean out whatever happened at that time. all do you know is say look what we're going to do and work with us to build that. you be a part of this. for a few things. one, i think that young people want to make sure their voices are heard. and right now instead of making the copies and picking up a copy, they want a seat at the table. i think we need a millennial chair, what we have here if south carolina is one of our vice chairs is under the age of 35. i think the dnc needs to add that voice to the table so young people have a seat. i think there are things we need to do. the 50 states plus. we have to amp up and increase the amount of money that we're giving on state parties so they can become the innovation centers for all the things that we can do on campaigns. we have a fellowship near south

carolina where we built this bench of talent. we call at this time jim clyburn fellowship. we train one person in the state with a goal of having 250 young people trained to run and be political operatives. if we did them in the states, we can strengthen that. it doesn't matter if you have a charismatic leader like barack obama or a policy wonk like hillary clinton. you can still touch the people and get vote out. >> there are some like you. handicap the race. who is the front-runner? >> right now. this is the thing. whomever is the next chair has to be a full time chair. 24-7, dedicated to running the dnc and working with 50 states. >> i know and you others think that. who is the front-runner? are you the front-runner? >> i don't know if there is a front-runner. >> wide open?

>> i think it is wide open. i don't know if there's a front-runner. many of the members i'm talking to said, listen, we're trying to listen to everybody. we want to see who will be in the race and then we'll make a determination from that point. what i'm telling people -- go ahead. >> will debby wasserman schultz go down in history as a good chair, great chair, bad chair? >> there were very positive aspects of debby's chairmanship and there were things didn't work well. >> like what? what is in the second category? >> do i need to say it? the fact you have a lot of people who are upset with the dnc. so listen, debby was very helpful here in south carolina any time we needed it but there are a lot of folks who didn't feel that way. so i consider deb 88 good friend and i know she tried. but in the end, we have to move on from that and to build the

next generation of the dnc. >> mr. chairman, we only have a few seconds left to answer this question. the importance of the party is to focus on the base and building up the base or to try focus more on the electorate. where is the future of the party in that regard? >> you win elections by addition and not subtraction. so that's all the approach. that's base. that's also reaching out to working class people and rural america where we've lost over the past few years. so again, it is addition, not subtraction. and i think donald trump will disappoint a lot of the peoe who voted for him this time around and we'll be able to add those people in the 2018 race. >> okay. thank you very much. good luck in the race. steve schmidt joining us after this. so go, know, and take control of your health. doctor poses. learn your key health numbers and take control today.

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she's sad because boris epstein is not here. and also, lady, gentleman, welcome. there is some dispute about how messed up the transition is. >> it is really messed up. he was a chaos candidate. i don't think people want a chaos president. and nothing he's done so far has calmed anyone's fears about that. the question is, how much is it trickling down to normal people? i don't think that much. but with any transition, and you know this, you float a lot of trial balloons. throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks, they already say it is a knife fight. so they have to get their act

together and project more confidence. >> knife fights? spa getty fights? >> it is a knife fight, it is disorganized and chaotic. one would expect nothing less. we'll have a clearer sense a couple of weeks from now. one encouraging sign is they said they would drain the swamp. it is entirely possible that it is news to them that the transition team was stocked floor to ceiling with lobbyists and it will take a week or so to get them all out. that's probably a good sign, consistent with his message. we'll know in another week or two. >> it is reported that nikki haley is being considered for secretary of state. what do you think of that possible pick? >> she was an impressive political leader during shooting in south carolina. her handling of the confederate flag controversy, that i think she is someone as you look ahead in the republican party, someone who is a serious candidate potentially for future higher

office. i have no idea if she knows anything about national security issues. anything about the complexity of the world. i guess we'll find out in hearings. certainly someone far outside the realm of the national security establishment that one would think to as you look to fill that post. >> what do you think of the prospect of a secretary haley as opposed to rudolph giuliani? >> it is less frightening compared to a lot of the names thrown out. it is less frightening than a bolt honor a giuliani. she doesn't strike fearful but what is her experience? what qualifies her to sit down with the these international leaders sf the unfortunate thing with trump is he hasn't surrounded himself with heavyweights on his side. the biggest concern is how will he handle an international

crisis? and whene is hit with one, don't you want him to be surrounded by international heavyweights? so they're throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks. >> going back to that, if you look at the range of names that have been floated ask not just for secretary of state but defense, for kris kobach. can you discern better now what the trump ideology is? what trump actually believes? or do you look at this range of names and say, i don't have any idea what he wants to do on the basis of what we have seen so far. >> there is no way to look at those names and have any idea what the agenda is at any level. >> to put it simply. >> some of the names floated really are the political equivalent of the cast of the can tina scene from the star wars movies. and you have people that simply

are not confirmable. i look and i think it bears mentioning today. warren hatch shot down cold the notion that they're getting rid of the filibuster. they can lose three votes, three votes on any nomination. so john mccain and lindsey graham, for instance, are going to take a very tough line on people who have diluted sensibilities about the intentions of vladimir putin, for instance. >> but you have mccassky and susan collins, when people say they have control of the house, the senate, they're not looking at the never trumpers. to your point, they are throwing out names. >> you were a critic of the clinton administration -- >> the campaign. >> what's going on in your circles of accounting for why she lost and what the fallout should be? >> first of all, people are

starting to come to terms with the fact she lost and it is not just that donald trump won. my fear is that some people are taking the wrong lessons from this. they're saying, it needs to be an either/or. we either need to talk to the white working class or talk to latinos and black voters. that we either need to go with the sanders people or the clinton people. that's yits really important to learn the lessons from 2016. we saw all the democratic heavyweights. the dnc throw its weight behind one candidate. not allow any robust debate. and we should have a chair debate all across the country. let's go to all the states that hillary clinton lost that democrats should have won and have an open debate with as many candidates as possible. i don't have a favorite in the chair race. i saw jamie harrison. we need to have a robust debate

with where we go going forward and reject the false dichotomies going on out there. >> how much do you think they need on reach out? >> an enormous upgrade today with the elevation of chuck schumer to the minority leader readministration harry reid. someone who is not an obstructionist. someone who wants to get things done. to your point, donald trump will have to work with democrats. the notion that this is a unified, monolithic bloc is wrong. this is the nearest we've been. the trump party, the republican party, are not the same party. when donald trump and his transition says, we're going on spend a trillion dollars on an infrastructure package. you have a lot of republican members of congress laughing out loud. there is no appetite in the conservative wing of the conservative party the spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure. so his coalitions and his

ability to work effectively are going to be tested. and this is why the bannon issue is such a serious one. that if democrats refused to let up and i think that democrats will refuse to let up on that question. it is going to cripple a real fundamental ability. the ability to -- >> to poison the sauce. >> i want to stay with you because we're doing this with our friends here. we did it yesterday. people who were incredibly competent for weeks. for weeks there was no way donald trump could win. they stake their reputations on it. i was wrong. i'll say it again. you were really wrong. why? >> it was a lack of imagination. i never thought that 6 million voters who supported barack obama would sit this election

out. i underestimated her deficiencies as a candidate. i called donald trump very early in the primaries, thought he would be the nominee. but i did not think that at the end of the day, that the american people would vote for someone who was so unprepared and demonstrably so through debates. that had the type of character deficiencies that he had and i was wrong about it. the anger of this country is something else. and i do think that you now will see a lateral line define politics. above that line, people benefited from the technological revolution, the globalization. we just heard from the people who were left behind. >> you were wrong, too. you were in some ways more flagrantly wrong. why? >> maybe out of optimism that people would vote for donald trump. i gave into the same flawed

assumptions that everyone else did. that democrats, young voters, latino voters, black voters would turn out against donald trump despite hillary clinton wasn't really articulating a reason for them to do that. that was a big mistake on her part and that's something democrats need on learn from. we don't need to just focus white working class voters. we need give everyone a reason going forward. >> do you believe that children are our future? they're not even listening. >> literally. >> i know we're running a little over on this. in addition to being wrong about this election, you also would have been very critical of trump's temperament and suitability for the office. a lot of republican who's made those arguments are grappling with how to confront him as president. what the proper attitude is. do you put your reservations aside or to you continue to be a critic? where are you as you look at this election? how to you accommodate yourself.

>> it was a legitimate election result. this is how we pick our leaders in the united states. however, the authoritarian impullings that we saw in the primary. to articulate particularly toward the free press. people need to be prepared to speak out tense it. there is someone who has become the president of the united states, the immense power of this office is something that everybody, whether they were friend or foe to him in the campaign needs to think very seriously about. he is now the most powerful person in the world. he has the destiny of our nation in his hands. he has the authority to end life this planet if he chooses to do so. that's a real thing.

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we're joined now in washington by two report here's are awaiting his arrival in january. jennifer jacobs is in our d.c. bureau. i want to talk to you about the republican leadership in the house. there was talk that paul ryan might use his job and then he was reelected unanimously. >> funny how that works. it is the one thing that seemed to help republican unity coming out of election. the freedom caucus, the right wing conservative agitators that so frustrated john boehner when he was speak, he have been contemplating a challenge to speaker ryan in the event that hillary won the election. but trump getting elected made unity among house republicans

imperative. i have to tell you the mood in the room when house republicans met, they all got those make america hats sitting on their chairs. they walked out wearing them. people inside the room said that the mood was solid. people were very happy to be back and to be in the situation that they are but it was not euphoric. you would normally expect if one party won the presidency and also controlled both houses of congress, the celebration would be hard to contain. that's just not the case. a lot of republicans here are still nervous about exactly what this means. donald trump has not exactly won this election on conservative policies. they're talking about spending a billion dollars on infrastructure. there are so many questions here. i think house republicans have gotten to a better place over the last seven days but it started off pretty confusing. >> i want to ask you about a republican senator ted cruz, he

was a supporter of donald trump oriole and then they were pretty bitter rivals. he insulted him at the convention, endorsed him at the end. now his nail is being floated for attorney general. so what are the prospects that could happen? >> they needed him to come up. it was an audition yesterday. there's been a lot of lobby intrigue. who shows up to go up the elevator? and ted cruz was one of them. at first they were denying hit anything to do with the cabinet post. and cruz' own staff was saying hit to do with the agenda for the senate and cruz wanting to promote his agenda. then transition team keeps floating names. and i was told last night, we are discussing him for attorney general. and cruz didn't necessarily know that when he showed up. but he was indeed being

auditioned. also from the daily mail, they were asking him questions that who would he recommend for undersecretary positions for justice and homeland security. they were waiting to see how they got along with him. when i asked today, i said what has the reaction been to the news that they are considering him? and they said strong. >> let me stay with you on the kushner security clearance story. what is the deal? >> jared has been the story today on the pushback. a lot of members have been saying, he doesn't have a personal vendetta against chris christie. they got along very well. there were other reasons the christie folks are being pushed out and why lobbyists are being pushed out. there is been a controversy about whether he would get classified security clearance to attend president's daily briefings and one person inquired about that out of an

abundance of caution, wanting to be prepared. if that would be authorized. wasn't authorized by the campaign but this person went ahead and did it so they were trying to say there was a simple mistakes. >> democrats. a lot of action with senator schumer and his new leadership slate. the party is a mess though at the moment. so talk about how things are on capitol hill with the democrats? >> just about the only thing they're united on is steve bannon. they think he should go. it doesn't seem as if donald trump is willing to do that. beyond that, democrats are facing a pretty bleak couple of years here on the senate side. on the senate side, they can't find someone to lead to senatorial campaign committee charged with reelecting democrats and holding the 25 seats that they're going to have up next year. next cycle. there is just a hole there.

it is an impossible job to have to do. schumer is trying to corral everyone who can possibly be a problem for him in one room. he added joe manchin on one hand and bernie sanders to the other, to his leadership team. it is not quite keep your enemies closer. they're all on the same team but there is an element of it. he wants to make sure the people that cause the most trouble in the room and not outside of it. so that's what you're seeing. the reality, he joked about it. he said they're young in senate years. there isn't a lot of fresh blood for democrats here. that's true on the house side too. stiff resistance to her becom g becoming. the frustration with her is real. there's not necessarily somebody who is stepping up, a person who

channel that frustration in a by a could be a threat to her. so it looks like she is likely to continue. but none of this solves the democrats' overall problem which is that it is not clear who the next generation of leadership is. i think there's a feeling the clintons stifled anyone else from running for president. the hill leadership has been the same for many years now, over a decade really, and a lot of the younger members feel really frustrated. now, of course, you have this division based on geography. you have the coastal wing of the party versus the middle of the country. and one person put it to me that hey, they want somebody who can walk into a union hall and be taken seriously. the indication is that nancy pelosi is not that reason. you can read into it.

that will provide insight. they're a little tough down in their leadership so i think there is a risk that there will be intraparty back and forth for quite a while. i don't see how the gets solved in the immediate term. >> i want to ask you for real quick answers. your sources in democrats, the republican party. what adjectives would you use to describe it? >> if you ask the trump team, they say they're one week removed from the most brutal campaign. >> i'm asking about the mood of the people. are they excited? scared? how do they seem? >> the trump people seem excited. >> how do republicans and democrats on capitol hill seem to you? >> i think the democrats feel like they're pretending they're not despondent which is sometimes a winning battle. sometimes a losing one. i think republicans are confused

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tonight hillary clinton makes her return of sorts. ever since she gave her concession speem speech the day after election day, she's been largely out of sight. tonight she gives a speech this washington. what will you be for? >> children's defense fund will feel like home to her. i will look for her, we've heard what she said in private. we have some reporting on it. i think it will be a good look to say, you know what? i lost this sxleks here's my self-analysis for why and take some blame on herself. >> will she mention she won the popular vote? >> i think there's about a

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grab your internet contraption. what senate republicans can do to secure cabinet nominations, where the trouble might exist for trump in his own party. until then, thanks for watching. coming up, "hardball" with chris matthews. you're fired. or you're hired. let's play "hardball." good evening. three big guests tonight. senator corker, ohio congressman tim ryan, the rust belt democrat, and out front, rand