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it's a busy morning here at
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msnbc headquarters in new york. 8:00 a.m. out east, and 5:00 out west. it's a working weekend for trump, and he is at his golf course in new jersey, and one person he is meeting with is mitt romney for secretary of state. and the transition team officially announced the picks for three positions. meanwhile, governor nikki haley, another contender for secretary of state has scathing criticism for the party, and here's what she said just yesterday. >> there have been broken promises at every level of government. we need to go back to the basics, and remember that we are the party of limited government. the party committed to creating opportunities for all people. the party of inclusivetivety.
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republicans lost our way. >> new reaction from the trump organization after the president-elect reached a $25 million settlement in all three of the lawsuits filed against trump university. one of the cases was scheduled to start in two weeks. the deal did not require trump to acknowledge wrong doing and he strongly denied the allegations and said during the campaign that he would not settle. a spokesperson for the trump organization says we have no doubt that trump university would have prevailed at trial based on the merits of the case, resolution of the matters allowed president-elect trump to put his full attention to the issues facing our great nation. and joining us is our panel. thank you for being with us today. beth, let me start with you. trump university, this has come to a settlement, something a lot
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of us did not expect because president-elect trump said he would not settle. why did he do it? >> it's an extraordinary thing. we have an incoming president, the president-elect who decided to go ahead and acknowledge fraud, and while the suit tech incomely says no wrongdoing. >> yeah. >> and he went ahead and paid out the money, and it's quite extraordinary. because he settled in this case, could there be a number of lawsuits coming? >> he has a number of lawsuits pending and he's trying to move on and put all that behind him and it's probably a smart move in the long term, and it's extraordinary the president-elect of the united states had to do this. >> romney's name has been floating around for a potential secretary of state, and why
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would trump consider him for the position? >> you can imagine that at some part of the meeting these two people will have to have a conversation about the falling out. trump endorsed romney in 2012 and said what a mistake that was, and obviously mitt romney would have said trump doesn't have the temperament or experience to be president, and here we are, that's what we are going to see happen. romney could potentially confront donald trump with the criticisms he made public, or he could try and play a more instrumental role within the government and try to steer the administration from perhaps what he feared would be the first elements of trump's personality. this sort of inexperience leading him to rash decision making that could impact the entire country. >> what sets romney apart from the other names rumored to be in the running?
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>> that romney spoke out and criticized trump so strongly, it was an extraordinary moment especially for somebody who had just four years earlier been the republican nominee, to denounce the person that followed him four years later was an incredible moment. what sets him apart is that he is did espouse a more pluralisic sort of world than talked about on the campaign trail and that's when sets him apart. >> let's twitch gears to the anti-trump trprotests. and here is what is the president said overseas on that specific issue? >> i would not advise people that feel strongly or concerned about some of the issues that have been raised during the course of the campaign, i wouldn't advise them to be silent. what i would advise, what i
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advised before the election and what i will continue to advise after the election is that elections matter, and voting matters and organizing matters and being informed on the issues matter. >> any idea how long we will seat protest continue and what is the end goal? >> they could continue throughout, you know, trump's transition, and even into inauguration and beyond, and of course he's one of the most controversial divisive figures we have seen in recent history as far as a president-elect at this point, so this is something where he has not done anything really to belay a lot of troe controversy, and he did say he would urge violent to stop, but the protests are going to continue, of course, and this is
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obama -- he's in an awkward position because he has to work with trump in the transition, and at the same time he is still maintaining the bully bull pit and can use his position as president to push back a little bit against the protests potentially. >> is it hillary clinton's or obama's responsibility or president-elect trump's responsibility? >> it's trump's responsibility. it's time for him to bring people together. he no doubt had incredibly device it rhetoric throughout the campaign, and he is on record of what he said about people of color and mexicans, and people are concerned and now it's his opportunity to say he wants to bring the country together. he said the protesters were paid and is blaming the press, and
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he's the only person that can bring them together. >> listen to what president obama said about the election results in particular. take a look. >> i won iowa not because the demographics dictated that i would win iowa. it was because i spent 87 days going to every small town and fair and fish fry and dfw hall, and there were some counties where i might have lost, but maybe i lost by 20 points instead of 50 points. >> some view this statement as a shot at hillary clinton's campaign. were you surprised at it? >> i think he was pointing out the obvious, that sometimes you have to go places that you are not automatically going to win and ask for those votes. but hindsight is 20/20. and everybody thought hillary
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clinton was going to win, and after everybody is an expert on why she didn't go to michigan and places. hillary clinton was campaigning towards the emerging coalition of people of color and women, and now she lost. the lesson of it is go to places that people don't like you. next time it's going to be the same thing, we will learn something else. >> we are learning a lot about president-elect trump and based on his cabinet pick so far, and would you say they are reflective of the policies we will see under his administration? >> the first thing is nobody knows what to expect out of donald trump, because he is taking, you know, two or three or four positions on any given issues, and there's an unpredictability. it seems like he is picking
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people that share a dislike the political establishment in washington, d.c. and anybody that incurred criticism or fallen out of the mainstream of policy debates or establish many rblgs he views that as a validation that they are doing something right. trump revelled in the idea of fighting with experts and challenged expertise saying the country is in a bad state and these experts don't know anythi anything, and trump sees it as a validation about their ability to speak to a truth that the experts just don't appreciate it. >> you know trump is reaching out to rivals who were highly critical of him, like romney and nicky haley, and assigning them key seats in his administration. what is the strategy here if he wants to create a team of rivals, why not reach across the
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aisle politically? >> his team did not hide that michael flynn, the new security adviser is a registered democrat, and this sends a signal to the party that he is willing to sit down and meet, even if romney or cruz or haley doesn't end up in his cabinet, that he is willing to sit down with foes. they could pull together a team that is eventually going to be effective and loyal to trump. yeah, same thing with mitt romney as a huge move to send the signal to the gop he is considering people --
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>> would you say flynn falls into that category? >> yeah, mitt romney was a critic of his throughout, but, you know, sitting down and having jeff sessions as a attorney general, the first senator to back trump and so far it's just loyalist that he has named but he could name others in the senior roles. >> jesse, beth, ozzie, thank you all. the wintry weather. look at the upper midwest currently in the throws of a winter storm that has brought blizzard conditions to some parts. it's being blamed for four deaths so far. road conditions have been treacherous with more than 300 crashes in minnesota alone. >> i am expecting a 2:15 drive to turn into about a five-hour drive. >> and we turn to meteorologist, reynolds wolf. >> let's look at your forecast
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out there and it's going to involve this big winter storm. already brought heavy snowfall to portions of minnesota, and now it's bringing it into the great lakes. michigan first. totals from three to five, and higher elevations you could get a bit more. this is going to cause travel headaches for a lot of folks, and we can expect the lake-effect to ramp up, and new york city proper 45 degrees. notice for tomorrow, looks good in places like new york and up to boston, but bangor, rain and snow showers, and syracuse, same deal. and then the amounts we are going to have it's going to be owned by the tug hill plateau. new york you are going to be away from it, but maybe back here, the green and white mountains, snow is on the way. betty, we'll send it back to
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11 days since the presidential election and the vote count drags on. now with 95% of the ballots counted, hillary clinton khraedz by 1.3 million votes and a little more than 62.5 million, and that's 48% of the vote and donald trump has 47% with just over 62 million votes. and today trump meeting with
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mitt romney, and let's bring in kelly o'donnell who is a short distance from trump's weekend home where that meeting will take place. kel kelly, how should we read into the meeting? >> reporter: it's a chance for donald trump to try and bring in somebody who was very prominent in the party and also fiercely critical of trump on his experience and his demeanor and on his way of conducting himself as a candidate. that time has passed and so part of donald trump's weekend to do list, more than the rest of us, assemble a team and plan an administration, and welcome top advisers, and looking at a future cabinet, and romney is supposedly here to have a real dialogue about things they share in common, ideas about how the country should move forward, and it will be interesting and behind closed doors, and there's a lot for the trump team to do.
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they have just over 60 days to get ready for a new administration. >> the motorcade pulled in to what soon may be known as the jersey white house. donald trump's weekend home to work on transition plans. today's big meeting could be awkward. >> here's what i know. donald trump is a phoney. a fraud. >> eight months ago mitt romney led the charge against trump's candidacy with a withering takedown, and their relationship had unraveled. >> mitt romney choked like a log. >> reporter: but today trump will host romney for a private fence-mending meeting. he opened the door with that a tweet of best wishes. it's more about sharing ideas
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than a cabinet interview. and attorney general, jeff sessions, and trump loyalist, and immigration hard liner. trump advisers defended the pick setting praise from fellow senators who would need to confirm sessions. 30 years ago sessions was blocked from becoming a federal judge after he was accused by colleagues of making racially charged comments, and sessions denied that. and trump turned to mike pompeiio, and lieutenant general, michael flynn, and mike pence enjoyed down time on friday evening taking in "ham l "hamilt "hamilton" on broadway, and his arrival getting some very mixed reviews. >> reporter: of course mike pence is heading the transition for donald trump, so we expect
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him to be part of some of the conversations and work this weekend. in addition to mitt romney, donald trump will be receiving some other important meetings, and included among those that could be rumored to be in the mix for potential jobs in the administration, and possible cabinet post, and michelle rhee also on the list to meet with trump today. let's bring in hue hewitt, a msnbc political onanalyst. you interviewed all three of the trump picks on your show. what you have learned from that and what is most important for people to know about them? >> mike has been a guest on my radio show probably every week for about three years. number one in his class at west point, and widely regarded as
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one of the brightest guys in the congress and harvard law graduate and takes his job seriously and covered the globe when they are out of session. senator jeff sessions going to be the attorney general, probably among the most qualified person to be tphaupl need to be the attorney general and 17 years as a united states attorney, and energetic and much beloved. his district court nomination went down because of two people, and terrific choice from a conservative point of view. a frequent guest on my show. and the general, he was, of
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course, the head of the dia and was fired because he was outspoken about the threat of what president obama called the jv's, and i think your audience ought to know that the cover page of that includes a ringing endorsement of general flynn by joe lieberman, and general flynn is widely regarded as a brilliant strategist, and i love the line in his book, i have shot at, captured and interrogate and studied our enemies and they scare us. and i think he is one of the most qualified in decades. >> last night ncaa president weighed in on trump's selection so far. >> what we see here is an administration in its early days signaling that it's hostile towards or indifferent to the
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civil rights agenda of the country, and so the question is if he was not good enough to be a federal judge in determining the law how is he good enough to be attorney general enforcing the law. >> what is your response to that? >> absurd. general flynn rose through an army that is sensitive to civil rights so the fact that he waupbgts to judge people quickly and harshly and it's about defining a narrative about donald trump and the president-elect's choices, which in those three men tells you more about the speaker than it does about those people that have been nominated. >> if sessions was blocked from being a federal judge, right, is it insensitive to segment of the community, of the nation, if you
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will, to nominate somebody like this? >> i don't think so. jeff sessions was blocked because of the vote of two republicans, and one of the republicans later said he was wrong to have done so and he gave credit to allegations not to have been credited, and because politics crippled him in '86, it should not pursue him now. what the left is afraid of with senator sessions soon to be attorney general sessions, and i called him general because i worked for two of them in the past, and he knows the doj top to bottom. 17 years, he will turn that place upside down, and betty, here's the real story, i suspect he will appoint a special prosecutor to look into the server gate and i suspect he will look into if any of the deputy attorney generals were involved in the obstruction of those investigations. people are afraid jeff sessions
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knows the building over there and he will turn it upside down in pursuit of genuine liberty, and it's just a terrific choice. >> would you recommend a special prosecutor? does the nation have an appetite at this point? >> i think we need to know what happened at doj and the fbi. i think there are a lot of things that have to happen. i see these things happen like senator paul coming out and saying ambassador bolton could never be secretary of state, and i think to myself, that's just nuts. ambassador bolton would make a great secretary of state, and everybody has to sit back and give this president-elect a chance to name his team. as you said in the last segment with kelly, you got mitt romney coming out to the golf course today, and he had nikki haley, and he talked to tom cotton, and this is obviously a man who move from a campaign that was controversial and bruising to
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governing with lightning speed, and the last week they were talking about the transition being in chaos, and if you look at the matrix much appointments, donald trump is so far ahead where obama was at the same point in his transition, and people ought to sit back and say, wow, donald trump may be quite a different dish and we could grow to like this very, very much. >> yeah, wow, mitt romney today, possibly secretary of state. do you think that's going to happen? >> i don't have any knowledge. i am a great admirer of romney, and i think it would be a jump for trump to ask him and romney is a patriot and may accept it, and they are illustrating how
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welcome back, everyone. i am betty nguyen at msnbc headquarters in new york. the great lakes is getting its first wintry blast for the season. and the interior northeast, the same storm dropped more than a foot of snow in parts of the rockies earlier this week. let's get you to politics now, one of the many challenges facing donald trump in the 60 days before his inauguration is making sure there's no conflict
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of interest between his white house and business. nbc's tammy leitner has more on this. how does he separate businesses under his name and run by his children? >> reporter: he's not here today and he's in new jersey at a country club he owns and the trump brand, it's everywhere and the big question is what will happen to that brand once he takes office. a trump about-face. on friday the president-elect agreed to settle the $25 million lawsuit against trump university alleging fraud, after insisting all along he was not going to give in. >> i don't settle lawsuits. very rare. because once you settle lawsuits everybody sues you. >> the trump organization admitted no wrong doing, and we have no doubt trump university would have prevailed at trial,
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and the victims of trump university have waited years for today's result. >> trump university was a business to give out business advice that literally went out of business. >> on fox news last night, an inside look into mr. trump's lavish lifestyle and a guided tour by the man himself before he was elected. >> i had parents who spoiled me. my father was tough and my mother made me tougher but spoiled me. >> but questions linger about whether the campaign and the trump presidency could hurt the brand, and trump saying -- >> it's peanuts, health care, making people better. >> and ivanka trump took heat for wearing a bangle and then hocked it and then apologized.
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>> trump's children are set to take over the family business. >> if you drew up a list of the top 10,000 experts on japan, i don't think ivanka trump would be on the list. >> reporter: in new york city, a lit trau sign, the trump brand could be tarnished. >> he's gone. he's a persona nontkpwrauda in this scity and to us. >> and they are calling on trump to liquidate the stake this his country, and mr. trump could put the cash proceeds in a blind trust. >> reporter: he has been talking about setting up the blind trust and letting his children run his businesses, and even then it's still unclear if that would clear him of all conflict. >> yeah, a lot of debate about all of that. joining me is rick newman from yahoo finance. tammy talked about the $25 million settlement with trump university.
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you say it was a smart move. why? >> because it was an element of the trump empire, and he has created a lot of value in his properties but this was not somebody to be pwroud of and he licensed his name to a group that had been known for creating infomercials and they already had run-ins with the law, allegations of fraud and those allegations continued for this, and this is a model for this type of business, and trump university was not the only once doing this and many of those that attended that testified, you would go in for a free seminar, but it was a pitch to get you into another seminar to pay maybe 1,500, and then itlooks like a shakedown. and then trump said i rarely settle. >> was it convenience?
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>> this was a smart time to settle, and it would have been a lot of publicity. >> on top of that, had it gone to court would he have had to testify? would it have opened the books to some of his dealings as well? >> you have discovery, and you get to see the internal workings of a company, and they encouraged me to run up $35,000 on my credit card, or encouraged me to drain my retire account and there are employees of trump university who said they felton comfortable and one said i couldn't do it, i was being told i had to get this money from somebody that clearly could not afford it and they told me i have to do it and one person said i refuse to do it. we would have heard that testimony, and who knows what else. and this is the last thing an
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incoming president wants to deal with. >> in your column you right trump university was one of the shabbiest schemes to bear the trump name. what went wrong? >> it was an innovative idea at the beginning, and use online education and he said i could do something different with teaching people entrepreneurship, and he brought on people from well-known universities who have a strong way to create a curriculum, and then he licensed his name to the other group to do it. he does make a lot of money from licensing his name. usually that works because they set standards for hotel properties, and you must meet
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these standards to bare our name. it's not something that trump organization had done up until then, and in the context of the trump empire, they were seeing how far they could go for using the trump name to brand out, and this is one that doesn't work. >> sure a lot of this goes to attorney fees, right? >> as always is the case in class action suits. but the plaintiffs will get some money, but a lot of them, if you spent up to $35,000, you probably would like your $35,000 back if you feel you got ripped off, so seems reasonable there's enough to compensate people for that, and more importantly they do not have to testify publicly or have their names dragged through the mud, and we have seen what happened to some of the donald trump accusers and they have their names out and a
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couple with their addresses publishes and it's a relief they don't have to testify against a sitting president. putin arrived in peru moments ago, and he may have one final face-to-face on the sidelines of the summit there. coming up, he will take you to lima for the latest on that.
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♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. overseas now for president obama's final tour as president, and he's in lima, peru today, and that's where nbc's ron allen is p is. what is the president's message on the final stop? >> reporter: it's a message of reassurance and says to the world let's just take a deep breath and assess what donald trump actually is going to do as president. there's a lot of uncertainty in this part of the world and concern in this part of the
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world and the big issue is the massive trade deal that involves so many nations, and the president has been pushing that what many think is dead but the administration is using the word pause to describe where they think that is right now, and republican leaders said they will not deal with it with president obama's remaining time in office, and that's not what the president wants. he is arguing there are certain forces of globalization around the world, and how strongly trump will push that agenda once in office remains to be seen. here the president we believe will try to reassure the world there are certain forces of globalization moving towards trade examinations like china and japan want trade, and the united states is, of course,
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trying to right the rules of the road so china doesn't dominate the asia pacific region, and so others have a say. the message is basically reassurance and let's see what donald trump can and cannot do. >> you reported in the last hour about donald trump's hour and vladimir putin possibly meeting on the sidelines of the summit. what do you know about that? >> reporter: we note russian president just arrived and there are pictures of him arriving at the airport here and the word from the administration is they are trying to get together to talk about the syrian situation one more time before president obama leaves office. and putin is part of the apack here, and there's talk about a cease-fire and humanitarian aid openings, and we have heard about it before and it's a terrible and tragic situation.
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and president obama will try to give it one more go to try and bring some relief the suffering that is going on in that part of the world. there's talk about it happening on the sidelines and it's natural these two leaders would try to talk in this environment, especially since president obama is leaving office and it remains to be seen if there is going to be progress in syria. >> thank you, ron. with so much partisan vitriol, how can democrats work with the republicans. and then ideas for big infrastructure projects and how they can have lasting impact. l is for layers of luxury. a is for alll the way back. r is for read my mind. and i... can't see a thing.
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the president-elect campaign on the promise of jump-starting job growth, and he is already claiming kentucky jobs from being outsourced to mexico. trump boasts he worked hard to keep the lincoln plant in
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kentucky, and a spokesperson from ford said there was no plans to close the plant, and the exchange is bringing into focus the expect taeations of t to generate jobs in the u.s. joining me next, congressman, and "the wall street journal" said delivering on that vow could prove nearly impossible. can he deliver and what will voters from your home state take away from this? >> it's interesting with regard to coal, because we know the coal industry is on the decline because of the low cost of natural gas and other market factors. the coal industry in appear latcha, it's expensive to mine, and it's not competitive with coal from western kentucky, so
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those jobs are not coming back and mitch mcconnell last week said this is a private sector thing, and we will have to see what happens. there's no way he can make good on that promise. as for the ford plant, i am very familiar with what goes on there. they make very few lincoln kmc's and they make the escape, too, and they never planned to close the plant or cutback on jobs, and they were going to move the mkc line, and so the idea that jobs were going to be outsourced -- >> or trump had anything to do with it. >> is that surprising to you? no, he will take credit for anything he can and avoid blame for everything that he does that is wrong. >> kentucky voters did give donald trump a landslide victory, 62.5% to clinton's 33%, and how big of a role do you
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think jobs play in the outcome? >> i don't think that was the big factor. we had the kcanary in the coal, and there was an outsider that won the republican primary and nobody had a chance at the polls, and he was running tkpwerpbs the attorney general and a long-standing and qualified candidate, jack conway, and polls showed him winning the weekend before the election and he lost by ten. it was very, very similar to what happened this year. >> where are democrats going wrong, then? >> i think we have failed to be impaw they had wreubg to a lot of people in the country who used to be democrats, and think we forgot them. a lot of it, we have tens of thousands of teamsters in the midwest including in my area that are going to lose up to two-thirds of their pension, and we never heard anything about
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that in the campaign, and hillary clinton never talked about it, and those people are in ohio, and kentucky, and places where we did not acknowledge the problem. we have a lot of good policies but we don't communicate to pick americans think we understand the challenges they are facing in their lives. >> you have been an outspoken critic of steve bannon and his appointment and calling for the appointment to be rescinded, and you say, quote, bannon's appointment sends the wrong message indicating they will not be tolerated but endorsed by your administration. is that a stretch to say the appointment constitutes hate crimes? >> when you have a business model like he did with brig
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breitbart, and it's based on bigot bigotry, i think that's what we can say about bannon he spent his career building a career based on excluding people, and to have him chief policy adviser to the president-elect is a frightening fact. when you combine that with people in the administration like a sessions and mike pompeiio, it forms a very scary scenario. >> steve bannon's appointment divided mayor jewish organizations, and the republican jewish coalition are coming to bannon's defense. how do you explain and rational
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rationalize this? >> it's a political world still. there's a campaign, among republicans and even republican jewish groups, and there are a lot of people who are not ready to accept the trump presidency. >> is steve bannon anti-semitic? >> i don't know that he is, but you own it if you build your business based on that, and that's what he's done, and if you don't disavow that kind of attitude, you are subjected to be labeled that way, and i think he's reaping what he sewed. the intrigue of ivanka trump. what role will she serve during her father's time in the white house? why she just might be the key to the trump presidency. ♪
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