emerged as the front-runner to be donald trump's section as ambassador to united nations and that mitt romney emerged as the front-runner to be the secretary of state. no official announcements and donald trump is leaving new york without any new cabinet selections being made. reporting from their sources that nikki haley and mitt romney emerged as the front-runners. that would be a significant widen being of donald trump's inner circle. mitt romney delivered a speech at the height of the campaign in which he blasted donald trump in absolutely withering terms. donald trump was willing to return fire throughout the campaign. they met over the weekend in new jersey at donald trump's golf course there. they had a lengthy meeting behind closed doors. we don't know what was discussed. they did emerge and smile and

shook hands in front of the cameras and mitt romney said all the right things you would expect somebody to say after a meeting like that, but the "wall street journal" reporting mitt romney emerged as the front-runner for secretary of state in the trump administration. nikki haley, the governor of south carolina talked with donald trump in the south carolina primary earlier this year when his candidacy was on the line in the primary. she had her differences as well and they reported the front runner to be un a.m. bassor. that's going to do it for this hour in new york. mtp daily starts now. >> if it's tuesday, we are learning more than ever about what we might see in a trump presidency. flexibility seems to be the name of the game. tonight, has president-elect

donald trump lays out the white house vision, why many of his campaign promises seem to be in the rear view. plus, hope 2.0. how many democrats are putting their hope in a new role for the vice president. why the stars are shining each brighter tonight at the white house. this is mtpdaley and it starts right now. good evening. i'm andrea mitchell for chuck todd. welcome to "mtp daily" this is not the donald trump from rallies. at the big interview, trump backed off pledges and signals an openness to keep the u.s. climate change in paris. he condemns that the alt-right

movement will brush aside potential conflicts of movement. from lock her up to let her go. he told the times i don't want to hurt the clintons. i really don't. she went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways. he is disavowing and condemning white nationalists met this weekend in washington, d.c. some of them filmed giving a straight armed salute while praising donald trump's victory. trump slammed them saying i don't want to energize the group and i disavow the group. perhaps the biggest headline comes on the issue of climate change. during the campaign, he repeatedly said he would withdraw from the accord and named a climate denier to head the transition team. he told the "new york times" i'm looking 59 it closely. i have an open mind to it. his interview with the times comes after he outlined the top priorities for the first 100 days in a video produced by the

transition team. noticeably absent is mention of building the wall or repealing obamacare. all of that happening against a flurry at trump tower as the president-elect inches closer to filling out the cabinet. caroline ryan who was in the times meeting with donald trump this afternoon. thank you very much for joining us. you are joining us by skype and it's a busy day at the times. we saw the tweet storm as the negotiations in public over whether or not he would come partly. the times insisting that part would be on the record with reporters not just an off the record meeting.

he kept talking about the campaign and how nasty and contentious it was on hillary clinton. at the rallies throughout the campaign to lock her up. he wanted to bring the country and kept talking about moving forward. he sort of put the clinton issue in the question of whether to investigate her that was the name calling.

>> it was interesting the way he talked about it. that was sort of reflecting on history and the lincoln douglas debates. the first foreign policy 12348. >> it's a very big signal and it's difficult to tell, he is a good reader of a room. it's possible that his language

was more modulated or moderate being in front of the "new york times." tom friedman and others are pushing on the paris accords. he kept using this phrase i have an open mind and i'm going to listen. that was quite different than the rhetoric that we heard in the campaign. >> let me ask you about the white nationalists, the speakers and richard spencer and the people in the audience who responded in, disturbing to say the least, some were described by the atlantic and they said heil, not hail. that's the german for hail and they are using that stiff armed salute. he seemed to be indicating he wanted to separate himself from the groups. >> he wanted to separate himself, but this was one of the first topics they brought up. really pressed him and he said you energized a lot of people, but you energized this element

in our society. trump seemed to really take pains to kind of distance himself from those groups. at the same time he professed ignorance of things that seemed curious like the content of breitbart and the reasons and the appointment of people like bannon might be offensive to certain groups. as you know, he is very conversationally deft and they didn't want to be pinned down on comments that he suggested he just heard about. we pressed him again and again and he disavowed it and condemned it. >> on conflicts of interest, a lot of reportering by the new york times and you have been leading the way and the charge and the meetings and the indian businessman. how does he handle that? >> he said basically that he is

under no obligation to do anything that he can continue to conduct his business. and he didn't want to liquidate or wall off his business. he kept saying look, and he would say look, i don't care about my business. i care about the country. this is too big, but at the same time he was not committing to doing anything to make people more comfortable. >> fascinating stuff and you and your teams are reporting it out and thank you very much for taking a break with us. >> thank you, andrea. >> let's bring in the panel. elise jordan is a former adviser at the state department and national security council.

the deputy editor at "the washington post." ruth, i want to go to you first because you are an attorney. a harvard lawyer. you have covered ethics in washington forever. aren't they recruiting people to explain the clause of the constitution and the ways in which he cannot benefit in his business financially from meetings with foreign leaders. >> not just the clause. that covers the possibility of gifts from foreign leaders and how they would not be allowed. there is a lot of issues that go beyond the clause and i will be really looking forward to hearing and reading the tribute of that meeting that i wish i had been in. it was tweeted at one point that the president-elect said if the president is in, it's not a conflict of interest if the president does it. i'm not getting the words

exactly right. i apologize in advance for that. very reminisce ant to me of when president nixon said if the president does it, it can't be illegal. he needs to be aware not just of the constitution, but of the history of presidents, even though they are not technically covered by conflict of interest rules, being very cognizant and doing their absolute best to keep themselves above any question. by mixing up his kids in both the business and in government and governing and transition issues, he is really running a big risk and i hope whoever he picks as white house counsel tells him that. >> the quote you were looking for, i just found it. the law is on my side. the president can't have a conflict of interest. >> the president can, i

guarantee it. >> you worked with condoleezza rice with that state department. what is your take on the fact that he is walking away with a lot of campaign promises. he is going to anger people in his base and some more moderate republicans and never trumpers very happy. >> he made statements that are happening. he disavowed torture and said general mattis said torture usually doesn't work. that was a strong statement from donald trump who had been a pretty forthright advocate throughout the campaign and specifically with this interview, i am most concerned like ruth about the statement that a president can't have a conflict of interest. that really stood out to me. above everything that is how he sees the world. that's his world view and he does not believe that if he is doing it, he will be doing

something wrong. >> and right from the beginning, he said he was going to put his children in charge of the business. that was that step to take. he recognized he needed to take a step to separate himself away from cashing in on his presidency. what he said today is alarming. it seems to step back to say there really isn't a problem here. i am going to do what i'm going to do. this is trump right from the beginning as a campaigner. nothing is in the tradition of a candidate did he ever follow along with. now as a president-elect, he is saying the same thing. those things have been in place before, but i'm different and i can do it differently. >> what we have been hearing from ivanka and others is trust us. on 60 minutes, i think, it was the most recent interview. we will do this right. trust us is not reassuring to the american people and to

ethics advocates. first of all, putting your kids in charge of the business is not even not a blind trust. it's not blind and his assets are tangible assets. trump tower, you know what the value is if you are an experienced real estate guy, you know day to day from looking at other data what the value is. there is no such thing as a blind trust. >> i'm really struck that he seems to be less attuned to concerns about conflicts of interest now than during the campaign when he said he understood and he put the kids in charge. it's not just what he said and what he has done. the meetings with the indian businessman and the comment about getting rid of those wind farms that are interfering with his property view and the selling of the trump hotel to embassies here in town. those are all serious things and we are not that many days into this operation. he is not even president yet.

>> it was also a strong defense of steve bannon. he does not recognize how controversial steve bannon is. >> this is how the trump campaign tried to or the administration has been trying to spin the bannon breitbart nexus. they have been saying there might be content on the site that is alt-right, but bannon is not racist. that might be true. bannon himself is not racist, but he provided a platform for speak that is subjectively racist. that is something that the trump campaign is going to have to reckon with and resolve if they are going to unify the country. >> he stepped out and disavowed the alt-right who he saw doing the disturbing things in the video. he said that today to the times and not on camera, but to the reporters. he could have said that a couple of days ago and put that issue to rest. yesterday they put out a very mild statement pushing away from

it as spokesman. had trump stepped before reporters which he has been avoiding and disavowed the video, he could have gotten this behind him a few days ago. >> hang in there and stay with us. we will be back to have a lot more on trump. the alt-ridght. the highlights from the medal of freedom ceremony. as they make the case for the outreach as they look for a way forward from the wreckage of the exlection. could joe biden win back blue collar voters? stay tuned. coming up next. ♪ i found a better deal on prescriptions. we found lower co-pays... ...and a free wellness visit. new plan...same doctor.

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lifted our spirits and strengthened our union and pushed us towards progress. i always love doing this event. but this is a particularly impressive class. here's how great karim adbul jabbar was. 1967, he spent a year dominating college basketball. the ncaa bans the dunk. they didn't say it was about karim, but it was about karim. bruce springsteen has been carrying us asking what is the work for us to do in our short time here. i am the president and he is the boss. ellen degeneres has a way of making you laugh about something rather than at someone. except when i danced on her show, she laughed at me. >> this was president obama's

final presidential medals of freedom ceremony. that brings the total for his two terms to 114. more than any other president. many of his selections reflected his eclectic legacy. tonight was an amazing snapshot. robert redfort, ellen dejens res, diana ross, michael jordan and karim adbul jabbar. more mtp daily coming up next.

>> the question is are we winning and the answer to that question is no. if we don't win the house back in two years, i will gladly step down. the leaders lead and winners win. we have to start winning and i am trying to provide leadership here and ask my colleagues to join me. >> that was congressman tim ryan speaking with me about why he is challenging nancy pelosi as house democratic leader.

nancy pelosi countered by proposing to expand the post and making room for more junior lawmakers. congressman ryan argues that they need to come up with a stronger message to win back the working class swing voters, largely white voter who is voted for donald trump. that is the thinking behind a long shot effort to draft joe biden or at least the honorary chair. they reached the blue collar voters, but may be a more concentrated effort could get back the rust belt. joining me now is the congressman from arizona. thank you very much. what is your response to congressman ryan's argument that those working class white voters in the rust belt needed a stronger economic message? >> they do. the country needs a stronger economic message. those voters in the rust belt that voted for trump that are traditional democratic voters have to be brought back and the

message is universal to american working folk. to the middle class and those wanting to be in the middle class who feel themselves that there is a ceiling and wage disparity and a certainty and anxiety. it's palatable and trump was able to exploit it. i think democrats have to understand that there has to be -- it's not a simple as a message. there is authentic response that we understand and we feel and that we are going to fight for them. regardless of how you program that, being more pop lift and bernie sanders did well with those voters in that rust belt. bernie sanders did well with working folks across the country. he did it because he had a message about economic fairness and a message about who needs to pay their fair share of taxes in this country. we need to do that and not be afraid of alienating a sector

whether wall street or anything else. it is an economic message for three election cycles in a row. the fact that democrats have not come to full acceptance of that, it causes the problems that we have now. a fresh coat of paint on anything is not going to solve problems. it is a commitment and a level of unity to move forward. biden is authentic and would be a great help in offsetting some of trump's rhetoric and the policies that he is thinking about. i think it's imperative that we provide new faces and it's imperative that we have a message that goes beyond taking care of our own nest. >> is tim ryan the answer? >> i don't know. i don't know. tim and i came into the house at the same time. 14 years ago.

it's not a question of tenure as much as it is where you see this party going. as we go through the period, it has been a minority leader and the speaker since i got there. we have all supported her. there is something to be said for having institutional knowledge of how we go forward as well. it is about a different tone, a different tenor and a different feel and that's the connection we need to make with voters. changing the message, applying different cosmetics to it is not going to get them the winning hand they get. >> i am hearing you as someone who would support a challenge to nancy pelosi. you seem to feel that more change is needed. >> i have always supported nancy and i believe in her.

sincerely. tim is a friend. we will cross that when we get there. at this point regardless of who is the leader and i believe nancy will probably end up being the leader, the fact remains that we come to the conclusion collectively and individually as members of congress and democrat leadership across the country that we have failed to connect on the fundamental issue of what is my future about for working people? that's where we need to be at our best. >> thank you so much. and still ahead, donald trump disavowing his supporters from the alt-right movement. is that enough to tamp down the rhetoric? stay tuned. ♪

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ring.com. president-elect donald trump said he does not want to energize the alt-right move am. and if they are energized, he wants to find out why. it's the first time we have heard directly on the subject of some of his most controversial supporters since members gathered in washington over the weekend and listened to a white supremacist skpeech and saluted with stiff arm salutes. the words echoed signature language from nazi germany. >> we are not meant to live in shame and weakness and disgrace. we were not meant to beg for more validation from the

despicable creatures to ever populate the planet. because for us as europeans, it is only normal again when we are great again. hail trump. hail our people. hail victory. >> the reporter from the atlantic said he heard members of the audience yelling heil, german for hail. it's hard to tell from the hap. richard spencer said that hail trump was ironic exuberance meant to be cheeky. the times reporters said when they asked about the gathering, trump said boy, you are really into this issue. when they asked him specifically if he condemns the gathering, he said i condemn them, i disavow and condemn. does that go far enough or does he have more to prove that he can be president for all

americans? the center on extremism at the anti-defamation league. does he bear responsibility from the rhetoric in his rallies? >> his comments are a good start. it has to be consistent and lout and it's not something had to that goes away after a week. this group and movement will be here. they feel emboldened by the last year and the reality is that they are not going away. it's extra important in the highest office to continue to condemn them by name, but today is a good start. >> when we look at the growth of this movement, you tracked other

groups, the southern poverty law center, this unites muslim americans, jewish americans, african-americans and all people of color. in feeling many of whom me and others they feel threatened by the rhetoric from the rallies and they are anti-semitic and racist and the only thing different is they wear suits ask ties. they are active online. at the core, this is the same group of haters that we have seen for decades. now what we are seeing is groups that are not only happening in d.c., but across the country we see hate crimes that are targeting jews and hispanics and african-americans with the type of language that refers back to the presidential campaign. in some ways, groups are organizing to push back.

>> when we talk about all of this, what is the responsibility if any of steve bannon who is in one of the highest positions in the white house? they defended him and does he bear responsibility as the editor of breitbart since they helped validate a lot of groups. >> it's not who he is, but what he has done. what he has done is create this empire online. breitbart pedalled in the bigotry that is very much consistent with the messages we are seeing the groups in d.c. espouse. it's not easy to just say it's any one person. when you are providing a platform for extremists to feel they have a voice and now they have a champion in the highest office? that's a concern. >> what is the responsibility of the companies like face look. what is the responsibility and

what about twitter? the social media is spreading like wildfire and the cyber bullying is more and more prevalent. >> sure. one of the reasons you have people show up at an event like this weekend is they are getting emboldened by what they are able to do online. we saw alt-right types. social media is encouraged and they are working with them to try to find solutions to mitigate the abuse of their services. >> what are advice do you have to parents. parents and children are concern and feeling vulnerable. >> we see hate crimes and incidents in schools and colleges and high schools. we told parents that their kids were watching the election and they were monitoring the type of divicive rhetoric happening and we have to teach our kids they

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i think that's the real problem. it's not enough to disavow them. what needs to happen now is to speak forcefully against the exclusion of minorities or the lgbt community or people who don't share the majority's faith. >> what are you hearing from people who are constituents and what is the situation since the election? has it become more severe? >> yes. the southern poverty law center has documented more than 400 incidents of hate crimes or intimidation of people of color and people who share my faith or religious minorities of other kinds. the issue is not simply the end of the election and everything is fine. people are more scared than they have ever been.

it's important to know here that this is not just about minorities. this is about america. this is about every american. we live in a time where we need courageous leadership and people especially low in the republican party. to stand up and say this is not okay. we have to disavow any group who excludes any american from the national fabric. >> what are about schedules and the children and the adolescents and the college students. is there outreach that you can accomplish or should be accomplished to better educate kids? >> the biggest is our children. we have seen a surge of bullying against jews and muslims, latinos, african-americans and others. that's when it starts to hurt

our children. they are watching the same television that we are. they are hearing the rhetoric and hearing the exclusion of huge portions of our population. i think what is important is for educators that sometimes it's then who is doing the bullying. for educators and administrators to make sure that they stipulate guidelines around bullying and enforce consequences and educate parents on what to do if their kid is targeted. >> thank you very much. thanks for being with us. we'll be right back. i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything. i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark? because i'm everything. and i marked other. discover the story only your dna can tell.

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james madison's name picked up steam with the secretary of defense. the "wall street journal" reporting that he will likely be trump's choice. the journal also reporting that mitt romney is the leading candidate for the state department and nikki haley is the lead candidate for un ambassador. there are those that support rudy giuliani to head the state department. senior fellow is max booth. good to see you. what do we know as you look at mike flynn for adviser and the likelihood of general mattis. the dispute is unresolved. what have we learned so far about which direction he might take? >> i think we learned very little. what we have seen is in terms of making a senior white house appointment as you might expect, he is rewarding the loyalists. you are seeing all the key white house aides, mike flynn, steve bannon and reince priebus were close to him in the campaign

where that doesn't seem to be the cabinet in the cabinet which is encouraging. there is no shortage of people close to him who wanted the jobs. he seems to understand understand that he needs to look out more broad low and get people with more standing and credibility. if he chooses general mattis who i have known for years or mitt romney, those would reassure a lot of people about the direction of the trump administration. >> it would be hard to figure how mike flynn would work with a mitt romney. that would be a case where romney is the secretary of state, but the power center is with the national security adviser. >> that could well be the case. i don't think they know how it will work out.

whoever is in close proximity tends to win the appointed now necessarily mean they're going to be in power for the full term that president trump is going to be in office. i don't think anybody knows how this power struggle, if there is, indeed one, will play out. >> in fact, there's one -- there's some reporting from hans nichols of our nbc news team, that rudy giuliani is actually being discussed, if he doesn't get the state department, for a dni, for the director of national intelligence, which up until now, has been a career military intelligence or career foreign policy expert, a diplomat like john negatiropont now general clapper. would rudy giuliani fit there? >> it's kind of a head scratcher, because i would think that giuliani would be a natural for the department of homeland security.

that's more closely attuned to his background, where as you suggest, odni has normally been a job for a nonpartisan intelligence official. by the way, i think that mike pompeo, the appointment at the cia is a very good appointment. i've met with congressman pompeo, and i think he is extremely thoughtful, well informed, has a deep knowledge of national security. i think he's a great choice. and i would hope that whoever is appointed to odni would be a similar type of person. >> max booth, thanks so much. let's bring back the panel, beth, elise and ruth. to you, elise, you've worked at the state department, what do you think of this choice, mitt romney or rudy giuliani, they are completely different people. >> i think governor romney would be an excellent choice, and i think that he would really calm a lot of people's fears about the trump administration's foreign policy. i do question, though, how well he and general mike flynn could work together.

they sold such opposed world views. you know, general mike flynn has dined with putin. mitt romney said it was the world's number one geopolitical threat. that makes me think it could be a trump white house. similar somewhat to barack obama, which the nsc has ballooned up to about 400 staffers. the largest it's ever been in history. so i wonder if trump would do anything to try to narrow the number and to pare it down and make it less of an operational entity and more of it's original function, which is supposed to be to coordinate policy. >> and even when it is not as large as it was under obama, under george w. bush, it was so powerful that colin powell, as his secretary of state, beth, had a hard time against cheney, rumsfeld, and condoleezza rice at the white house. he just didn't have the president's ear. >> and it seems like there's the potential for lots of personality clashes, you describe. mike flynn, so very different from mitt romney. a mike flynn would ideologically would fit much better with rudy giuliani. but then you have two incredibly

strong personalities there. the president-elect trump himself, a very strong, sort of volatile personality. so from an outsider perspective, that seems like a potential problem. on the other hand, can a romney work with mike flynn? he might sort of ameliorate a lot of people who are very worried about where trump is going with this administration, with the hiring of a steve bannon into a position of power there. mitt romney, obviously, a much more moderate, very different world view, you know, would present himself to the world in a very, very diplomatic way. he seems to look the role. but it's all about how people can work together and who's going to influence the president-elect. >> which is very hard to predict. ruth marcus, when we think about these teams, whether they are teams of rivals or teams of campaign loyalists, it's just hard to imagine, as beth was just saying, some of them working together this way. but interesting that josh earnest confirmed today that president obama has spoken several times since their meeting in the oval office, with the incoming president, with the

president-elect. and what he described to david remnick in that exclusive interview, when he was on the road in peru, in "the new yorker" was, he's trying to appeal to his better angels. he really is trying to place a bet that once you get the office, once you are elected, that you might be different than the person who ran. >> sure. and there's some evidence that the president's approach might be a smart approach. if you look at what trump had to say about general mattis today, so during the campaign, trump was very clear, it's completely clear, torture works, we have to do more of it, not just waterboarding, worse than waterboarding. he sat down with general mattis and he heard what any general and anybody in the field would tell you, which is that torture doesn't work and that you are much better off if you offer a cigarette and a cup of coffee. when he heard it from somebody that he trusted, that he had that good relationship, he was able to take it in and repeat it back. and so, to the extent that he

and president obama can forge this unexpected relationship, given all that's gone on between them, that could be very helpful, not just for president-elect trump, but for the country. >> it seems to validate the whole notion of the president's club, at least an early edition. >> yeah. >> call michael duffy. >> thank you so much, beth fouhy, elise jordan, and ruth marcus. more "mtp daily" coming right after this. stay with us.

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and welcome back. in case you missed sit, it's been two weeks since election day, but there still is no official winner in north carolina's hard-fought gubernatorial race. and now the governor, the republican governor, wants a recount. democratic challenger roy cooper is leading incumbent governor matt mccory by more than 6,000 votes. cooper declared victory the morning after election day and is working on a transition effort, but governor mccrory has yet to concede and today he filed for a total recount once the county totals are in. and that's not all, mccory is mounting legal challenges in more than half of north carolina's counties. but mccrory may have another ace up his sleeve. he could send the election to the state legislature. according to the north carolina constitution, quote, a contested election can be determined by joint ballot of both houses of the general assembly. republicans currently hold the majority in both houses, no surprise. state law says an election decided by the legislature cannot be overturned by a state appellate court, but a federal

court could likely get involved if a partisan legislature, rather, overturned results of contested ballots with minimum efforts of impropriety. we'll be keeping a close eye on this in coming days, as will chuck. that's all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." "with all due respect" starts right now. >> i'm nicole wallace. >> and i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to donald trump, who keeps trying and trying to get ben carson to join his administration, have you considered ag secretary? we hear that carson has some interesting theories about the pyramids and storing grain. donald trump upheld his day today with a very old gray lady. >> oh, my god, me? >> trump's on-again,