elsewhere? >> we're going to have a lot of phone calls made to companies when they say they're thinking about leaving this country, because they're not leaving this country. plus, the democrats' way forward. we'll talk to one democrat who has had enough and another who says she knows how to win back those lost voters. and the russian cha charm offensive. what's really behind vladimir putin's real praise behind president-elect donald trump? this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to a thursday edition of "mtp daily." there is the art of the deal and the unintended consequences of a deal. trump's deal with carrier is raising questions about both. then there's the big question. is this how trump is going to put the bully into bully pulpit as president? there is a lot of people who

voted for him that hope that's exactly what we're seeing. this afternoon at a carrier plant in indianapolis, president-elect donald trump touted the deal to keep roughly 1100 jobs from going to mexico. but he also fired a clear warning shot at other u.s. companies. >> companies are not going to leave the united states anymore without consequences. it's not going to happen. we're going to have a lot of phone calls made to companies when they say they're thinking about leaving this country because they're not leaving this country. leaving the country is going to be very, very difficult. >> trump also spoke in detail about how he battled greg hayes, the ceo of united technologies, basically the parent company for carrier. according to trump, hayes resisted the deal because the carrier plan in mexico was nearly built. trump's response to him was, who cares? >> you know what greg said? greg said, the plant is almost built, right? i said, greg, i don't care. it doesn't make any difference.

don't worry about it. what are we going to do with the plant? rent it, sell it, knock it down, i don't care. >> now, details of the actual deal were largely kept under wraps, but today carrier said they got $7 million in incentives, mostly tax incentives in the state of indiana in a state pledging to keep those jobs in the state of indiana while also making investments in the business. but that doesn't tell the whole story. cnbc's david faber is reporting that united technologies made the deal in part because it was worried about incurring trump's wrath and jeopardizing more highly lucrative government contracts. then you have critics like bernie sanders who say it was carrier that strong-armed trump in order to win extra tax benefits. now, sanders worries this deal will open the door for more private sector threats to fire american workers, not less. he writes this in the press, united technology workers took

trump hostage and won. trump has signalled to every corporation in america that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives. david, that's sort of, i think, what a loft t of us are trying figure out about this deal. who had more leverage here? was it united technologies or donald trump and the federal government? >> it's what we'll be visiting if those phone calls will be made, chuck. the candidate certainly made a focus of his campaign these jobs in indiana and their potential for going to mexico. you also had a unique situation in that united technologies, as you pointed out, as we pointed out, of course, is a big defense contractor. it's got about $6 billion in revenues that basically is tied

to the u.s. government. and what i have reported, and i have heard from people who are familiar with what went on here and the deal that was put together is the concern of starting off on the wrong foot with this administration was far larger than the loss or the cost savings, i should say, that would have accrued to united technologies carrier unit from moovrg the moving these jobs to mexico. >> that made a lot of sense to me that trump owns that kind of leverage. i'm curious, what are you hearing in the business community about this tactic? it is clear to me this is how donald trump is going to operate. he feels comfortable calling up a ceo and he's going to try to do business this way, a lot different than the last couple presidents. what is the reaction in the business world who don't want their names attached to these things right now? >> you know, it's mixed to a certain extent, kind of wait and see. saying that you're going to make phone calls to all these companies who threaten to leave or move jobs overseas is one

thing. actually doing it will be another. if we see a pattern here, you'll have some concern on the part of corporate america. i also think it's going to be difficult for president trump to really follow through to a certain extent. we're talking about an economy, chuck, that creates 5 million jobs and loses 5 million jobs in a given month. 300,000 of them can be manufacturing jobs. not to take away from the thousand jobs that were saved in indiana, certainly important to them and their families. but this is a much larger issue, and it will be curious to see how it plays out. what i hear from corporate america, and the focus there, and your reporting on this will probably be a lot better than mine will be over time, is tax policy and what the importance of that is going to mean in terms of the way corporations view being based in the united states and what it means to their balance sheets. >> david faber, cnbc, good to have you. it's been a while. nice to see you. >> nice to be with you, chuck. let me bring in the panel.

there is a white house jack of all trades on the democratic side. he's done everything to help run the stimulus. he was chief of staff to two vice presidents. jennifer ruben is a columnist with the "washington post." you got to give trump credit. a promise made, a promise mostly kept, although we do need to remind people there is still a net loss of jobs, not a net gain, but it's fewer. >> a thousand people's jobs are safe. that's good. we do know that governors in states will negotiate with companies to give tax incentive. the governor in indiana is working with donald trump, so it's not an unprecedented thing where you have taxes given, jobs saved. if donald trump can stop outsourcing of jobs in america, that will be a great thing. today is not evidence of that, i would say. >> ron mcclain, you worked for a president. he intervened in the auto industry. president bush, i remember, made a big -- essentially intervened

with the steel industry, and at the time everybody looked at it as pure, industrial, rust belt politics he was playing there. it's not unusual for presidents to do this. it is unusual to do it company by company. >> it is. i think today was a good day for donald trump, but i do think this is going to come back and haunt him. >> why? >> because he stood there at carrier and said there will be consequences when jobs move overseas, and i promise you, that clip will be the first clip that runs in ads in 2018 when jobs continue to move overseas and president trump doesn't stop it. today 1,300 jobs did move overseas and what were the consequences? carrier got a check. i just think this is a one-time act, and as the jobs continue to move overseas, the statement he made today will come back to haunt donald trump. >> let me play devil's advocate.

this is the campaign he said he was going to do it this way. they don't do these things, they don't intervene. this was the full donald trump today. >> it's frank hypocrisy for conservatives to be cheering this as paul ryan is. conservatives make the argument that you tonight pick winners and losers. it's not in our interest to have ceos making political -- >> you stole my next -- but you're right. paul ryan two years ago would have criticized this practice. >> and the reason for that is you want ceos to make economic decisions, not political decisions. this is the worst thing in the world for politicians to decide how you stay on his good side and how you get on his bad side. this is going to run right into a huge conflict of interest problem. as soon as he does one of these deals, people will snoop around and say, is there a trump hotel

there? is there a trump deal there? what about his kids' business opportunities and activities? because trump refused to drain the swamp, as it were, and i'm dubious he's actualing going to sell his holdings, if he does go company to company, that's going to magnify the problem enormously. >> but people wanted this. they wanted someone to rattle cages, to stop this. >> today as he's standing in front on the stage saying, i saved jobs. this is what he wanted. >> by the way, i'm curious of the incentive the companies will have to find ways to look like they're doing make goods. this is donald trump with carrier on television. >> he didn't really wave the big stick today, he wrote the big check. i take your point. those voters wanted to see him,

and he said i'll get tough with these guys. i'll tell them i'll punish them. i'll put tariffs on and all he did was put money in their pocket today. that's not a sustainable model, that's not a viable plan, and that's where the rub is going to come. does this guy just talk tough or does he actually have a big stick? >> i always thought the most effective phrase sarah palin came up with was crony capitalism. it did capture what does happen in this town and in new york sometimes. you can easily paint this -- if this were a democrat doing it, i think sarah palin would call it crony capitalism. >> exactly. and the other thing that's krone i capitalism is putting a bunch of billionaires in your cabinet who have given money to your campaign. another example is inserting the tax bill, benefits that will tremendously help the real

estate industry, which if you're taking his original plan seriously, it would do. i think there will be grave contradictions in this administration. because on one hand, he wants to drain the swamp. on one hand he wants to look out for the little guy, but the method he's using and the business that he knows really involves, as ron said, bribing people, putting money in ceos and big corporations' pockets. >> let me go to the bernie sanders argument. he's attacked this from the other way, that carrier shook trump down. >> there is an argument that you now created new incentives for companies to do this even worse, and yes, they shook trump down. trump saw this was a problem and inverted it, but in reality, carrier won, united won, not trump. >> you're thinking of offloading a thousand jobs essentially to mexico. do you announce 2,000 publicly? >> yes! >> all right, i'll make it a thousand -- >> this is what governors do all

the time. i'm going to move my jobs in florida to state x because it has lower taxes. >> mike pence wrote a check to move them to indiana and then they threatened to move to mexico and they didn't give back the check. this is definitely going to be the latest game in corporate america. call up the white house and see what i get without moving. >> trump does still instill some fear. trump is worried about bad press. it is not a long-term way to govern. >> it's not. and his inclination to conduct economic policy in this way has real downsides. for example, his infrastructure bill. he doesn't really want to have expenditures where we have governors say, hey, we need three bridges and four roads. he wants to give once again tax breaks to people who might otherwise already be doing these

projects. so i think the kind of use and misuse of government incentives will become a big issue. and how much this actually helps the economy? >> what i'm waiting to see is how do the sort of -- what i would call new school conservatives the last 20 years who have been much more small government and truly very much more small government, private sector oriented, how many of them stick to their guns when dealing with the president? >> he just got elected. the core question to me, though, is can donald trump get companies to not outsource jobs without giving them tax incentives? can just the president's authority and bully pulpit do it with fear alone. that would be very useful. >> we're going to pause here. you guys, of course, are around for in and out of the hour. coming up, though, the future of house democrats. is it fading? what's up with the leader who is leaving capitol hill, and then we talk way democrat who says

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elected attorney general there, camo harris. it comes after they return much of their parties' old guard to the leader post. his departure means the loss of potential generation of house leaders while this current generation continues to stay. the highest latino in congress will become the first latino in attorney general history. congressman, first of all, congratulations. >> thanks, chuck. >> i know you have to wait for a confirmation process, but let me ask this. you and i have had this conversation, and i've had many people describe you to me over the last five years, he will be america's first latino speaker of the house. you can't be that if you leave the house. why did you leave? >> you got to make a difference for your country when you're given a chance, and i was given a chance to make a big difference not just for the country but for my state, the more than 38 million

californians who depend on our state leaders from governor brown to our leaders in sacramento to be forward leaning. they are as forward leaning as you find in any part of america, and i have to be there as both the defender and advocate for the rights and interests of all of those leaders and the more than 38 billion californians. >> let me ask you, has this sort of stalemate of the house leadership on the democratic side -- look, there's yourself, there's chris van holland who was moving up the ranks and then decided he was going to run statewide. steve israel was moving up the ranks, he decided to retire. tim ryan may end up running for governor in 2018, yet another potential leader. debbie wasserman schultz, she's sort of gotten sidetracked as well. are you concerned that a generation of house democrats are being lost to house leadership? >> i actually think a new generation of house and senate

and state democrats are moving their way up and going to make a big, big difference. we, for example, in california grew our delegation. we, in fact, in the house won seats in some people's spots. democrats actually won seats in the house, and some of those new members are just as dynamic as they get, whether you're talking about salut carbahol or stephanie murphy in orlando, florida. we have some astounding people who are going to assume office who will be generational leaders. >> there have been some really concerned house members, younger democrats who are very unhappy that nothing changed. despite three or four straight cycles where things haven't gone well, nothing changed. i want to play to you one from congressman schrader from

oregon. take a listen. >> i'm very worried. we just decided the democrats' ticket for the next ten years, unless it's a working agenda regard lgs of who you are. so far we show no inclination to do that. >> what's your reaction to him? >> i think we want to make sure we prove to america that we've got their backs, and that means having an agenda that really does prove to those working men and women that we will fight for them to have, as a lot of folks have said, not just good-paying jobs but jobs that will send your kids to college. we will do that, and if we do that, we will prove to people that we will bring them the change they need. chuck, it's moran issue of standing by your values, and if we stand by the values that the democratic party has been a part of for so long, we will do well. >> do you understand, though, the concern many democrats have that lessons aren't being learned? >> you know, this is a democracy. you're always going to have

different opinions and that's what makes it great. i think in the democratic party, we are as diverse a party as is america. we will now make a clear contrast between republicans who have everything in their control. congress, the white house. we'll make sure there is a difference, a clear contrast who will let people know who we are and we've got their backs. >> there's one thing i'm confident of, that you'll be on the statewide ballot in 2018. i geuess the question is, will you be running for a full term of attorney general, governor or would you consider the u.s. senate? would you rule out any of those three right here? >> what you're telling me is i'll get confirmed to be the next attorney general. i'll do great if i can be confirmed to be the next attorney general. >> would you rule out the idea of running for another office statewide whether it's governor or u.s. senate? >> you know, right now i'm thrilled that the governor has such confidence in me to be the

next ag. there is a lot to do. the governor is, as i said, a very accomplishing guy, and there is a lot we have to accomplish and i'll be the chief officer making sure we accomplish those things. i am looking forward to serving as the next ag. >> is jerry brown right now the closest thing that democrats have to the leading democratic party given he governs the largest democratic state and there's been success on the ballot? >> with his division and his achievements, he certainly could take that mento. when you take a look at -- >> who would you give the mantel to? >> when we find out who will be the chair of the democratic party, that will help. as you just mentioned, leaders like jerry brown have proven that democrats accomplish great things for lots of people. nobody can say they've done as much for 38 million people as jerry brown can.

>> attorney general designate, i guess. you have to wait until you get confirmed. i have a feeling it shouldn't be too difficult. your party does control that state senate these days. anyway, congratulations and enjoy not having to do this commute as much anymore. >> 24 years of it. >> yes, there you go. i want to turn now to someone who is hoping she can help shape the future of the house caucus in the democratic side. it's illinois congresswoman sheri bustos. take a look at her illinois 17th congressional district. it encompasses much of the quad cities area. a little more rural than close to chicago. she was awarded 20 points by her challenger. donald trump won 12 of the 14 counties that make up her district. we know had he carried the district by a lot. estimates of about 20 points. and this week nancy pelosi nominated bustos as co-chair to hone the democratic message to working class voters.

she joins me now. congresswoman, welcome to the show. >> hi, chuck. >> so you heard probably part of my interview there. there seems to be a generation of house democrats that have a lot to offer that maybe felt stuck and pursued other opportunities to work in democratic politics. chris van holland, bobby today. do you sense there is that frustration in the caucus? >> if you're good at what you do, you're going to have opportunities. for chris van holland to be the next senator in the state of maryland, good for him. he's a great democrat, he's a great spokesman for our party, and for javier, i couldn't be more pleased for him. this opens up opportunities for other members to come in. >> sure. >> i think it's not so much frustration as it is we want to be back in the majority again, and we have to figure out our path forward. that is what we've been talking about since the election. >> so you won your district by

double digits, and donald trump, it appears, won your district by double digits. who are the trump bustos voters? >> you showed the picture of my congressional district, but let me give a little more context. i'm the only democrat in the illinois congressional delegation outside of chicagoland. so literally i am surrounded by republican districts. illinois is a big state. here's what i have done to be successful. i was just elected to my third term, so i've only been in congress for three years. i defeated a republican to get here in the first place. but when i am not here in washington, i'm home. i'm working every single weekend. i do something that we call supermarket saturday. i'll literally walk the aisles of our grocery store and while moms are picking out frosted flakes, i'm asking her what's on her mind and what does she want me to know when i'm back in

washington. i do what we call sharing shift. i'm a certified forklift driver now. i've delivered packages, i've processed carp coming from the mississippi river. my advice for that is don't wear sandals while you do it. but i've talked to people and i asked them what is on their mind. i asked small business owners and small manufacturers what is an impediment to your success. we take that information and come back to washington and write legislation or sponsor legislation, and i work very, very well across the aisle in order to bring home results. when you're in the minority party, if you can't figure out a way to do it, you're not going to have success. >> what is it about donald trump that your voters and your constituents felt more comfortable with him than with secretary clinton? >> i have talked from day one.

i announced i was running for congress in july of 2011. since that day, i have talked about jobs and the economy, i've talked about the fact that manufacturing was our base, and yet we have corporations like maytag that 12 years ago sent all 1,200 of its jobs over to mexico overnight. to this day the wages in that county have not recovered. so we talk about making sure there are no tax incentives for corporations to ship their jobs overseas. and on the contrary, there needs to be incentives for those jobs to come home. we talk about training the next generation of work force for the next industrial revolution. again, i've worked very hard not only to be a fighter on behalf of my congressional district but to bring home results, too. >> to go back to my question, why did those same voters, though, that voted for you vote for trump? >> they know me now. they know that i work hard -- i

understand -- >> i understand you, but why do you think they picked trump? is it the core that trump was talking manufacturing jobs and clinton wasn't? >> i think it was a frustration with washington. they want to make sure that they saw results. they saw that in me. there was probably question if that was going to happen if they didn't vote in someone who was very different than they're used to. donald trump has thrown out a lot of promises. i will work with him and i will work with his administration where i can. i'm on the transportation committee. i like the idea that he's talking about a trillion-dollar transportation package, but i don't like the thought of the people he's brought in on health skpl is human sfrsz. or somebody who doesn't even

believe in public education. we'll make sure that people going down a dark path, we're going to fight that. >> from the quad cities, which when i used to visit family in iowa, you would drive through the quad cities. i used to do that drive a lot. thanks for coming on. >> thank you, chuck. from russia with a little bit of love. vladimir putin says he's ready to work with donald trump. we'll look at the future of u.s.-russia relations. stay tuned. ♪ only a hippopotamus will do at the united states postal service, we deliver more online purchases to homes than anyone else in the country. and more hippopotamuses, too. ♪ so whatever your holiday priority, our priority is you. i am totally blind.

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it's beginning to look a lot like christmas here in the nation's capitol. just moments ago, the first family for the very last time lit the national christmas tree at the white house. it was the whole family there this time since it's the last time that malia and sasha and all of them will get to take part in the ceremony. hats off to the national park services centennial celebration. we have more "mtp daily "after this, but here's the cnbc update. >> the dow finished up 68 points, the s&p following by 7, the nasdaq lost 72 points. starbuck's chairman and ceo howard schultz is stepping down as the company's chief executive. he'll being executive chairman. chairs dipped more than 3% in after-hours trading. u.s. auto sales rose 4% in

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donald trump has been using cozy language for vladimir putin for months during his campaign, and today we heard back from the nationally televised end of the year address. he said, quote, we are ready for cooperation with the new u.s. administration. it is important to normalize and start developing bilateral ties on an equal and beneficial basis. vladimir putin says he has a long ways to go in earning trust from the united states in trying to fight terrorism. >> russia is a country that will pursue its national interests frequently to the detriment of the interests of the peoples of the countries wherein it

operates. i think president-elect trump and the new administration need to be wary of russian promises. russian promises, in my mind, have not given us what it is that they have pledged. >> after a bipartisan call to investigate, russia's connection to the hacking they apparently did to influence these elections, is donald trump preparing to hit the reset button again? let me bring my panel back again. you are a national securities geek. you like your international affairs. it makes a lot of sense for putin to throw out the olive branch today. >> he's going to try to snow trump as long as he can, and the job, i think, of the national security team for donald trump is to introduce reality, that there is a reason we don't get along with russia. it's not just because hillary clinton was mean to him or barack obama doesn't know how to do a deal, it's because they act in ways that are opposite of our national interest.

they are not fighting terrorism in the middle east, they are contributing to genocide in the middle east by assisting the assad regime. they are all issues. until donald trump learns or he loses interest and lets other people deal with it that countries have interest, and an equal relationship depends on equal respect and a behavior we don't have. >> we can throw in sort of teresa mayo, but there is a nationalist movement in democracies around the world. turkey's democracy and russia's democracy i'm putting in quotes here a little bit. >> big quotes. >> they first got into office in a real election. the point is, isn't -- >> there's nothing about this that makes me feel good, chuck. nothing about what you said. >> isn't essentially this is how trump wants to operate, is more in a nationalist american

attitude. he kind of understands putin's point of view. >> again, there's nothing about that that makes me feel good. vladimir putin is just a veneer above being a dictator in russia. he runs a regime that abuses human rights, that has journalists killed, that has enemies jailed or killed, and if that's donald trump's model, that's a horrible model for an american president. jennifer is right, i hope when he comes into office, assumes the awesome responsibilities of president, it's more than a twitter feed, it's more than just firing off some press releases, he will learn and he will grow and he will adapt. but it's very ver, very frighte to look at where he's at right now. >> we've seen how meetings with russia have gone. their interests are not our interests, and i assume donald trump will learn that.

>> putin is involved, right? >> putin has been involved every time. >> they did do some business for a four-year period. >> it's hard to see how putin -- they're all naturalists, i believe, but their interests are so different. the picks on the cabinet matter here. if you have a romney, if you have a petraeus, those are people who have seen this and know what to expect and so on. >> without violating the off-the-record agreement the last time that i spoke with the president-elect, but he gives off the sense of if it doesn't have an immediate impact on america's national security, he thinks some of these things are like, you know, hey, if russia wants to spend their money on propping up assad, let them do it. that's his attitude and there's a lot of his supporters that believe this. >> it's going to be the job of the national security professionals to explain why that attitude really isn't in america's interest. that our ability to influence

events around the world for the last 70 years or so has kept the peace, has kept us prosperous, that our democratic allies depend on us to break the rules of the road and bad things happen when the united states recedes. the irony is that this was the republican criticism of president obama, that he was too reticent, that he wanted to pull up stakes, that he wasn't interested in the middle east. now donald trump wants to come down on that. >> do americans really care about the syrian genocide or the ukraine, and the answer may be less than you or i or jennifer wants them to. the donald trump policy view is we should pull back, be less involved. this sort of angela merkel view is one that americans share. >> i understand that, but the political impact, there isn't a lot of desire. >> i think there's no question that donald trump ran on an

isolationist platform, both economically and from a national security perspective, and obviously that resonated with some voters. fewer voters that hillary clinton, but a lot of voters, no question. having worked in two white houses, the world has a way of intruding. particularly today in a highly connected, highly complicated world, the idea we're just going to build a lit reral or me metaphorical world is just wrong. president trump will learn that shortly after he's in office, i promise you. it's not a partisan thing, it's just the way the world works today. >> i have to say i do feel like we're reliving the '80s. this is back as a prominent story all the time in our foreign policy. take a pause here. donald trump's fantastic, political phone call with the governor of pakistan. you got to check this out. stay tuned. [burke] hot dog. seen it. covered it.

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welcome back. it's obsession time, and tonight i'm obsessed about revisionist history, specifically the pipe smoking and chain stroking about the election that's taking place on universities and tv shows everywhere this week. in a nutshell, here's the new received post-election system. one, that you can't win on identity politics. that clinton had no positive

message. that donald trump proved that an organized campaign, voter an t analytics and a good game don't matter. that politics have a lock in the foreseeable future. right now clinton won the popular vote by 2 million. she lost because she lost by 80,000 votes total in michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. just shift those to the other states and do you know what the chin strokers would be saying today if she won the electoral college and still had this lead, that democrats can ignore working class voters, that you can win by identity politics, that you have no positive

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welcome back. time for "the lid." we have to share this. donald trump has a number of pro-forma phone calls with leaders since election day, in most instances, the transition team for trump just puts out a list of names, a running tally of who has politely phoned the president-elect to wish him well and introduce themselves. but last night the country of pakistan put out a very detailed statement of a call between trump and the pakistani prime minister. it reads in part, quote, there president trump said prime minister nawaz shareef, you have a very good reputation, you are an amazing good. the prime minister reportedly invited trump to visit pakistan and according to the readout, trump said this, he would love to come to a fantastic country,

a fantastic place of fantastic people. the trump transition hasn't confirmed the account, but that definitely does sound like trump's voice. they called the phone call productive and said they're looking forward to a lasting and strong personal relationship with the prime minister. let me bring back the panel. ron, you've been with people that get these phone calls, congratulate, pro-forma calls and all this stuff. and there's no doubt part of it -- donald trump's being just as polite. oh, you're great, but there is some diplomacy here that he may have accidentally messed up. explain. >> look, pakistan is a country with which we have a very complicated and nuanced relationship, particularly in terms of tackling terrorism. and for donald trump to just blanketly say, it's a fantastic place, you're going a fantastic job, it's all good, sends a message to foreign leaders that basically, if they call up the trump white house, tell him what a nice guy he is, tell him that they would love to stay at one of his hotels that it's all going to be good. and i'm sorry, but it isn't all

good. we have issues here. >> and there's the india angle, whatever you do with pakistan, you've got to do with india, with a little bit of pinkie on the scale, without pakistan thinking that. whatever it is. you've got to be careful. >> this is juan's point. he may not really understand that people pay attention to what he says. he may not care what he says. but in fact, they do. and people make calculations based upon that. countries move troops, they make decisions, they make and un-make treatis based upon what they think the president is saying. and what's obvious from that is you could have had him on the phone with anybody. you could have talking about the president of fiji and he would have said the same thing. >> and basically he got played by -- it was in pakistan's interest to make that public. >> also, we don't promise presidential visits randomly. he never -- as much as he -- he never did promise the visit. he knew enough not to -- that would have been, um, pretty problematic. maybe switch to what i obsess

with. my executive producer is a buffalo bills fan. and he always jokes, the scott norwood field goal. if it goes in, people say, the run and shoot can win field goals. sta mi ron klain, you were al gore's guy in 2000. you've lived with this for a long time, about -- >> twice. how much does this matter? >> i think it's a lesson to not overlearn the lessons of this elections. she did win 2.5 million more popular votes. shift a few votes and she wins the electoral college, too. for 16 years, people ask me about the result in florida, the result in bush v. gore, what if you had done this differently or that differently? my answer is, yes, sure, all of them. we lost by 500 points. anything may have made a difference. here, of course, one more visit

there, a few more ads there. all of these things. it was a loss by inches. and more importantly, it's a mistake by democrats to re-examine fundamental principles, fundamental strategies by a loss so close. >> republicans do have have a latino problem. >> and politics is also about the people. hillary clinton had a real problem. and that was for rightly or not, people didn't like her. and that changes with every election. new people, new results. >> you're going to hate me. i'm getting yelled at. >> the guy that's here knows he has to take the abuse. when he works for the company, we don't shortchange you guys. after the rake, the ceiling rule strikes out. stay tuned.

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that's why we're hiring 10,000 members of the military community by the end of 2017. i'm very proud of him. male vo: comcast. in case you missed it, our long national baseball nightmare ended today. one of the sports' dumbest rules is no more. no, it's not the dhs. sadly, that idiocy remains. national league plays softball. i'm talking about the ceiling rule. it gave home field advantage in the world series to the team whose league won the all-star game. the idea is that it would make the all-star game more relevant and make the game count. it did, a little, but not really. most major league players would rather have the time out during the all-star break. they want the bonus check for

becoming an all-star, but they want the vacation. those who do play aren't on the field for very long. now the league's collective bargaining agreement says home field advantage in the world series goes to the team with the best regular season record. how about that? wow, what an amazing idea. and the players that do participate in the all-star game will be playing for a pool of extra money, which is also a bit ridiculous, but at least doesn't give such a big reward for such a, frankly, meaningless game. but, you know what, at least they tried to make the all-star game cool again. that's all for tonight. "with all due respect" starts 15 seconds left. >> i'm mark halperin. >> and i'm john heilemann. and with all due respect to those people who are floating the idea of chris christie being the new rnc chairman, we have five words for you. >> sit down and shut up!