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confirmed the reports. the fbi's conclusions are described as fuzzy and ambiguousuous according to the "washington post." that's inside the cia. congress wants hearings and they have gone nuclear on every part of the story. they said intelligences a bunch of hacks. they are the same people that said saddam hussein had weapons of mass sdrugz. it is hard to remember who was doing the hacking. a former senior intelligence officer said that means they did just that. park are i'm not sure they put it out. i think the democrats are putting it out because they suffered one of the greatest defeats in the history of toll ticks in the country. >> they a suggesting a

historic experience like john who has been lying if are a top job. according to a source, he wants to know if the white house directed the hacks and not russia. >> it's not clear to me viewing this from the outside that the hacking into the dnc and the rnc computers was not a false flag operation. you accusing someone here in this administration or the intelligence community of trying to throw something? >> we just don't know. i believe intelligence has been politicized in the obama administration to a significant degree. >> a flurry of criticism in the comments. he said he has not concluded that they carried out the taxes and maybe it was an attempt to frame russia. the top republican mitch mcconnell held a press conference that there will be probed by at least two senate

committees. he took a few not so subtle shots at trump. >> it defies belief that republicans in the senate are reluctant to review russian tactics or

changed their mind on how they were going to vote as a result of these allegations of improper involvement with these internet communications on the part of the democrats? i don't know of a single voter who changed their mind one way or the other. >> that is a separate set of issues. we need to stop it. >> put that to the side. you are right, there is no way to tell if it affected an individual voter and whether that changed the out come, yes, but if russia was able to get in, period. is this not something that should be taken seriously as it is being taken? >> absolutely. >> by the president-elect and why would he not do so in the interest of the american public and the democracy? >> i'm quite confident that this administration will continue to do what we can to protect internet communications, but that's a blanket statement.

it's one thing to have an advancement to create one set of protection. >> when donald trump is coming up and trying to under cut the intelligence community and saying they have no way of knowing even though they were in agreement even though russia was able to get in not necessarily whether they were able to effect an out come, but that they got in. donald trump is not taking that seriously, now why do you have reason to believe he will take it seriously when he is actually inaugurated? >> i'm quite confident that the cia and the department of homeland security and any number of agencies as part of a blanket order to protect america's communications will be active and will do so. it's in everybody's interest to make sure that our infrastructure is safe from being tampered with and that our

power grid is not shut down and our banking systems are not penetrated with the kind of economic damage that can be done. in that context, we will use a broad brush to stuff all of this. the problem is technology and the leaps and bounds. as soon as you stop one attack, another is launched. it's a very difficult problem we will have to ruffle with. i have a high degree of confidence that with barack obama and the prior administration, we will deal with it. hopefully we will take it a step further and as we start figuring out who the actors are and the damage we are doing to our economy or private communications, we will start acting in a fashion that goes beyond internet with trade sanctions or other weapon that we may have at our disposal to deter them from continuing to do what they are doing. this involves national security. as you well know, the hackers and the state agencies have been

trying to penetrate the military capability going to the defense contractors and trying to steal our technology that gives our national defense a technological edge over the opposition. there are many, many motivations to protect the use of the internet involvement in the elections might be one. it should be one, but you have all these other things that indicate to me that will be a high priority in protecting the internet. it will be a high priority in this administration and this was the last administration. >> we will see if you were right about this. thank you so much for joining me. >> coming up, why the friendship between russia and donald trump's top pick for secretary of state is concern for both sides of the aisle. stay tuned.

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tillerson could have a tough confirmation fight ahead of him. he is rolling ties to russia and putin and even honoring the friendship honor in 2013 and has been critical on russia. some republicans are wary of those ties including senators john mccain, lindsay graham and marco rubio. he is concerned about tillerson's relationship with putin. >> putin is a murder and kgb guy who wants to restore the russian empire. when he gets the friendship award from a butcher, frankly it's an issue that i think needs to be examined. >> senator graham called tillerson's ties to putin unnerving and asked the chief of staff reince priebus about concerns some have about tillerson's previous dealings with putin. >> do you understand why that would unnerve some people about the idea of him as america's chief diplomat?

>> it might unnerve people who think the best route for the country to go is to ignore people and have an enemy and adhere to the list. look, i don't believe that if solving the world's biggest problems are best done by ignoring people and having crummy relationships across the globe. we just don't believe that talking to people and having relationships is a bad thing. >> let me bring in tonight's panel. the president of the partnership for conservative principals. the senior washington correspondent and coauthor of playboo playbooks. i was speaking with a former cia official and they said they could not believe this russia hacking news did not get more in the summer. they are glad to see they are

getting more play now. how big is this and what are the consequences they get down the line? >> it's in part because they saw they will have a community hearing and that is based front and center in washington. the disagreement between connell and donald trump was on display and you will see that in the months to come. >> you were saying earlier you believe this is political to a degree as the transition is claiming it is? >> absolutely. it's serious and it's not shocking and the russians have been doing this for decades. they are very interested in investigating russian hacking. they are trying to undermine the election on donald trump and let's be clear. was there a possibility that the russians who were involved in trying to manipulate the election results? absolutely. did they decide the election? of course not. >> even if it's unclear about

whether they were trying to tip the scales, the fact that the russians were involve side, period, were able to get into the system is that not something given that there is bipartisan support for investigation that donald trump, the president-elect should be taking seriously to show the american public that he has their interests and the democracy's interest in mind over his own? >> what's shocking is that the republican party hangs its hat on national security and being reagan-like. ronald reagan fought the soviets and the russians. now here we are with the president of the united states making excuses for why we should not investigate the russian hack on american democracy. to me i find that -- >> there can't be a double standard. i am not defending trump, you are interested in investigating the russians? they have been hacking the systems and they can be conducting the spy?

this has been very weak. >> let's be very clear. the only people who had e-mails released were members of the democratic party. this is one-sided. i'm not saying were trying to tip the scales. i don't know that. they believed to a high degree of confidence that that is the case, but perception-wise. democrats were the only ones who had e-mails released. do you believe if it's political now, don't you have to believe it was political in the campaign? >> i agree and i think donald trump should expect the possibility that the russians got involved and hacked for political reasons the server? >> and there should be an investigation. >> it's a visceral reaction from donald trump. it's not a great reaction. i agree with you and there should be an investigation.

at the same time to be fair on the other side they are trying to make this a political issue. today or yesterday, we had the cia director say saying that this is the equivalent of 9/11. that's a political statement. >> they did the work for the bush administration as well. the campaigns believe that hillary clinton did not believe in donald trump. he is not the most liberal person when it comes to politics. moving on, so far trump's cabinet picks and the folks he has chosen have railed the administration they are being a pointed to you have scott pruitt and et cetera, etc. does this mean that the administration will be trying to pair apart the posts and rebuild a new framework. should we expect to see them get in line with the stated

priorities of the post. >> some republicans wondered if the positions were maybe the positions of agencies that are a big priority to trump and maybe they won't be effective. you see him with general mattis who will be an effective leader. >> suing the epa as we speak. >> one of the things i heard a lot of from the career officials. do you want to stay in this position because they will not fill my position or do i leave as a protest movement? this is something we see shake out in the coming months. >> the federal minimum wage and he has been critical of the offices and services that helped for housing. it seems like one after another that that could be the case that they will try to fix those that undermine the authority.

>> it may be asking a question about whether or not he has to say. the president's counter terrorism adviser does not have the ability to make the transition. what if we still don't have the person in place. she doesn't have the same staff for president. we have a president-elect who is going to be the captain of our team and is going to more pep rallies than practices. he is not taking intelligence briefings. he is supposed to protect the country. >> we will come back later in the hour. i promise. stay with us. still ahead, donald trump has climate questions for the energy department and why they are worried the trump team's latest move can lead to witch hunts. keep it here.

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where are you -- >> i'm still open minded. nobody really knows. i'm somebody that gets it. nobody really knows. it's not something that is so hard and fast. i know this. other countries are eating their lunch. >> that was president-elect trump hedging the validity of climate change. it sent shock waves to the energy department in a memo his team requested a list of all the department employees and contractors who attended climate meetings and worked on related projects. they told employees involved in the social cost of carbon metrics. that tool estimates the damage of associated carbon dioxide emissions that donald trump has been cleared that he believes businesses are absorbing too many damages from regulations. >> epa, you can get things approved. i deal with the big and the

small executives. i have really gotten to know this country. when you have to wait 10 and 15 years for an approval and then you don't get the approval, it's no good. >> it's unclear how they say they plan to use the information, but reuters spoke with a staffer who said it feels like the first draff of a potential enemies list. >> just to make room for witch hunts. paul is a professor of environmental history at yale university. let's get into this. how unusual is it for a transition team to ask for a questionnaire like this? >> look, every transition team has to collect information on the agency they will help run, but to gather specific information on employees and research scientists and civil

service employees who are doing the job 20 protect the climate, that's quite unprecedented. i can't think of an example quite like it myself. >> let's talk about the short list for energy secretary. that includes rick perry who famously proposed eliminating the department of energy. at the same time he couldn't remember the department of energy's name during the debate. can you speak about the consequences of eliminating the department and why does it matter that it exists? >> the energy department has a number of important responsibilities. principally came out of the responsibility for atomic power and nuclear weapons. it evolved to have a greater mandate to also address issues like clean energy and renewable fuel vehicles and a lot of basic research as well as commercialization projects that are trying to move to a clean energy future. the energy department is really on the cutting edge of where we want the economy to go to make it a more energy-efficient and healthy climate. but to bring somebody in who

fundamentally doesn't believe in the mission of the agency is really astonishing. heanted to eliminate the agency and be put in charge of it and know how it's going to work out. >> i imagine it's not sending a good feeling in the energy department. to cancel the paris climate deal. the united states is the key player in the paris accord. if trump does that, what happened? it was not legally binding. >> my understanding is enough countries have signed on to allow it to move forward. if the u.s. withdraws, we are just feeding leadership to other countries including china. it's a bit of an odd situation in which the president-elect wants to assert american power in the world and influence would really be feeding it to china. he explains about the role. that is surprising. the jury is still out on whether

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we talked about hacking. whether it's chinese hacking or purported russian hacking. we talked about the opportunity that the president-elect has to literally reset things. to reset the trajectory of the economy and reset the role of government. to reset america's in the world and how we are perceived in the world.

it's why he is getting such fantastic people in his administration. >> that right there is carly fiorina after meeting with the president-elect and checking a new tone on trump much different than the words on the campaign trail. check out the sound byte back in april when she was ted cruz's running mate. >> yes, i happen to believe donald trump is terrible for our party and terrible for our nation and he would lose in a landslide in november, but as i said, the week he announced his candidacy june of 2015, he doesn't represent me and my party. i have a lot of heart for this fight. >> times have changed. according to the "new york times," fiorina is being considered for the role of director of national intelligence. it's time for the panel back. let's talk about carly fiorina. what do you think? >> i think that that is

troubling. we can all laugh and joke, but they have to take this seriously. the president should be appointing people who can take care some point, they've got to start protecting the country and take it seriously. >> jamal, i think they're taking it seriously. the thing is, i think you think and democrats think, the only way you take it seriously is if you appoint people who come from government. i think it's a great idea to bring someone like carly fiorina, an accomplished professional, with a lot of experience. she was on the advisory board of the cia in the bush administration, so she has experienced intelligence. >> and he keeps choosing business people over politicians. on the campaign trail, he talks about draining the swamp, basically saying, you can't trust a politician, but you can trust the ceo of a company. what is the american public going to make of that? >> i think we have two points here. one, he's certainly picking people he's comfortable with. whether it's exxonmobil or others, carly fiorina, but he's

not really draining the swamp. if you look at the people he has chosen so far, jeff sessions, they are mostly actual washington operatives who have a long history. and yes, he's done some things about lobbying, but he hasn't done a wholesale makeover of what this government's going to look like. >> he's appointed multi-millionai multi-millionaires, billionaires, how does this drain the swamp? and down the line, if he can't effect his policies, if he can't put them through, are his supporters going to turn on him? >> that could happen. and at the end, it's not about the people he's appointing, it's about the policies. >> why do you have such a degree of confidence that the policies of the folks he's appoint will be much better for the country, given that oftentimes they're trying to head an agency they don't believe in? >> people voted for donald trump because they're fed up with the path our country's going in terms of the economy.

and if he's able to regulate the economy and pass his tax reform bill, it would mean we could have an economy growing at over 4%, that means good-paying jobs, and people would be very happy. i believe in a lot of policies that donald trump is putting forward. >> i didn't even know what to believe in. donald trump has a policy in the morning. and by the afternoon, he tweets something different. i used to be a spokesperson for politicians, it has to be a horrible job. you never know what you'll say -- >> and we have seen his people having to turn on a dime -- >> you have to agree that on tax reform, he's being very consistent. and those are -- >> i don't know about that. >> jamal, on the campaign trail, donald trump won and he won on this idea that he was going to change things. he's talking about appointing rex tillerson, potentially, for secretary of state. he's got close ties with vladimir putin. this shouldn't be a surprise. he on the trail would say over and over again that we needs to be friends with russia, friendlier at the very least with russia, we need to change what we're doing because it's not working. the american public, at least in

the electoral college, agreed with him. >> the electoral college agreed with him -- >> that's what i'm saying, the electoral college. but should there be as much criticism for this idea, even from his own party, choosing folks who are close to putin, given that that's what the american public -- it's not like he's pulling the wool over their eyes in that sense. >> i think the american public, if they voted for him, they voted for him to overturn the apple cart of elites here in washington, d.c. i don't think they were voting to cozy up pot putin regime in russia. if that's true, i would love to see that in the polling data. this pro-putin government they're building does not reflect america to me. >> and ana, talk to me about this intelligence information. fit does come out as some of the electors in the electoral college want it to, is there any scenario where this could change the outcome of the election, if they come out and say definit e

definitively that russia was involved and they were trying to tip the scales? >> i don't think. this is what you're seeing with donald trump trying to debunk this hacking issue in general, because he wants to say, i won the presidency, it's time to move forward. i don't think you're even hearing some of the democrats. they're very few and far between that are saying, let's do this, because then we're going to overturn the election. what you are going to see, and what some of the senators on the republican side have said, we want to do this, because next time russia could go afters u.s. it's not just going to be democrats. that's what the overall mission of this. >> and why would donald trump not admit that there needs to be a congressional inquiry, that there needs to be a presidential inquiry. do everything he can to show the american public that he is trying to make sure that he knows what happened during the election, definitively, and will stop it in the future. >> i agree with that. and in fact, i said in the previous segment, i think he should. i think it's just one of his visceral reactions. but going back to something jamal said, the fact that you're

appointing somebody that has ties with putin and has done deals with putin doesn't mean that we're going to have a pro-putin government. for the past eight years, we've had a very weak policy towards russia. and russia has been able to expand its fear of influencing the world. perhaps by having constructive engagement, we may be able to check putin. >> alfonzo, ana, jamal, thank you guys for a spirited discussion. after the break, the final seats have been filled. we'll have the breakdown of your 115th congress. stay with us. hi, we're the hulford quads. (laughter) we're in 8th grade. technology is the only thing that really entertains us. i'm gonna use this picture on sketchbook,

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in case you missed it, the roster for the 115th congress is now complete after a few runoff elections in louisiana this weekend. john neely kennedy, no recommendation to the 35th president, defeated are democrats foster campbell by 20 point to take over david vitter's senate seat. remember, both donald trump and mike pence stumped for kennedy in the last week of campaigning. and in the house, republicans clay higgins and mike johnson won their races without much difficulty. so where does that leave the opening numbers for the 115th cardiology? republicans own a two-seat majority in the senate, with their 52 seats compared to 48 members that caucus with the democrats. and house republicans enjoy a 241-194 seat advantage, but that is six fewer seats for the republicans than they held -- than they hold now. republicans control the white house and both chambers of

congress for the first time in over a decade. time will tell if trump, paul ryan, and mitch mcconnell will see eye to eye on what should make up a united republican agenda. that's all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." ari melber picks up our coverage right now from new york. hello, i'm ari melber. 6:00 p.m. on the east coast. you are watching "msnbc live." bipartisan blowback from trump as calls grow louder for a real investigation into the russian election hack. will congress also probe trump's financial ties in russia? also, trump won the electoral college, but they have not actually voted for him yet. today the clinton campaign joining calls for electors to learn more intelligence about russian espionage before they formally lock america into four years of trump. also, how real is the trump rally on wall street? and is the president-elect picking winners and