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weighed in on the china taking the joan. rips it out of the water and takes it to china, an unprecedented act. last night in orlando on the second to the last top of his thank you tour, he stayed away from international topics and instead looking back to election night. >> they are telling all of us, you cannot break the blue wall. what happens, what not only did we break it, we shattered the hell out of it, and it's just bloody and so red, so red, so beautiful. remember the map when they showed it? there was a lot of blue, and that blue got knocked to hell. i will tell you that. >> president obama was also thinking about to the election, and russia's interference and the reaction to it on capitol hill. >> some folks who made a career
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out of being anti-russian didn't say anything about it. and then after the election, suddenly they are asking, oh, why didn't you tell us that maybe the russians were trying to help our candidate? well, come on. >> speaking to donors in new york on thursday, hillary clinton gave russia's role a more personal spin. >> we have to recognize that as the latest reports made clear, vladimir putin himself directed the covert cyber attacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against me. >> later today the president-elect will travel to mobile, alabama, for a rally which is the last in his
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six-state post election tour. hans nichols is at the white house with president obama's take on the hacking of the election. >> reporter: before leaving town he spent most of the time explaining and defending his administration's response to the hacking, and he also shows an antidote of how he told putin to back off and he warned a more forceful response could come. at his year-end press conference, barack obama revealed his warning to vladimir putin about interfering in the 2016 presidential election. >> i told him to cut it out. >> and many in his party are frustrated he did not do more, and obama's explanation offered little comfort to agrieved
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democrats. >> i wanted to make sure we were playing it straight. >> facing the press, the fbi now agrees with the cia that the russians tried to elect donald trump, but the president refusing to go that far. >> we have not seen evidence with machines being tampered with, so that assurance i can provide. >> all but confirming the news story that the russian president ordered the attacks. >> not much happens in russia without putin knowing. >> and richard burr's analysis has been requested by president-elect trump, and saying unlike many in washington they check politics at the office door and focus on their mission. before leaving with his family for hawaii for the holidays, a mostly defensive president, but a hint of offense. >> so at a point in time where
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we have taken certain actions that we can divulge publicly, we will do so, and there are times the message will be directly received by the russians and not publicized. >> it was the longest press conference of his presidency. he declined at several points opportunities to criticize his successor, president-elect donald trump, and even gave him a pass by taking the phone call from the taiwanese president, saying everything should be subject to pressure eyes. and joining me now, political reporter for u.s. news and world report, and senior reporter for "the hill." thank you both for being here. gabrielle, let me start with you, and could the president have done more or is it a situation where you are doomed if you do and doomed if you don't? >> i think it's a situation where he was doomed if he
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doesn't, and he was talking about undercover cyber business they are working on, and i think he was worried more about like he was trying to tip the scale for hillary clinton, and in doing so actually made things easier for trump. >> interesting. mike, john podesta, the chairman of the presidential campaign had a scathing message for the fbi, and here's part of what he wrote in a washington post op ed, and comparing the fbi's massive response to the overblown e-mail scandal, it shows that something is deeply broken at the fbi. so he's basically accusing the bureau of being disproportional, and is that a fair assessment or is it campaign sour grapes? >> what he's say something the fbi headquarters, a few blocks
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from the democratic national committee, nobody walked up the block to say these hacks are happening, and meantime they are spending thousands of hours investigating hillary clinton's e-mails and what they are say something why not investigating russian hacking with the same level of scrutiny that you did these e-mails, and it has to be partisan and intended to tip the elections. >> do you feel it was disproportionate? >> it was certainly disproportionate. they spent much more time combing through e-mails, and instead of walking up the street to notify the dnc, they were calling on the phone leaving message wz a low level tech aid, a contractor, and obama said he didn't know about it until the summer which is nine months after the first calls to the dnc, and the scrutiny was not
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there like looking into hillary clinton's e-mails. >> and does the clinton campaign believe they could have won the election if it were not for russia's interference, or do they take any responsibility for losing? >> i think they probably thought they could have won, and they are in a situation of facing no campaign we know of has ever dealt with and i think hillary clinton thought she was going to win the race and these things kept happening, and one clinton campaign aide felt like the hacks were a low-grade fever they could not shake. if it does not cause them to lose the election, it did not help on top of all the other factors. >> and trump's administration dismisses what the fbi says after the administration backed it up. >> more details will be
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released. trump is walking a fine line here, because he's going after the same intelligence agencies he will have to rely on as president for the next four years, and if he starts to question their data and their intelligence, then he might be setting the stage for a really tough time down the line. he keeps pointing back to the 9/11 data and saying this is the cia that told us that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and we sat down with nancy pelosi and she said actually they didn't say that, and they said something different and bush and cheney spun it to guide the american people to go into iraq, and all to say that trump is going to have to rely on the same people he is criticizing and we will have to see how that plays out because he is setting a strange precedent for a president. >> you are not going to unite
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all fronts in this partisan washington right now. you are seeing divisions not only between the democrats and the republicans but the republican strategy, and you had john mccain and lindsay graham, two high-ranking republican centers saying we need a committee to really look into this and do a deep dive, and mcconnell the senate republican leader said we are not going to do that, and then paul ryan did not go that far, and he said the intelligence committee has been look into this stuff and we don't need a special focus on this, and you are having divisions again not just across the aisle but the majority leadership. >> i want to play another president obama comment from yesterday and this time he's talking about the democratic party reaching out to people who feel they are not being heard. take a listen. >> we have to be in those
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communities. i have seen that when we are in those communities, it makes a difference. that's how i became president. i became a u.s. senator not just because i had a strong base in chicago but because i was driving around downstate illinois and going to fish fries and talking to farmers. >> gabrielle, was that an indirect jab at clinton? >> yes, but it was also an acknowledgment that obama saw the destruction of the democratic party. he, on his watch, more than 900 state and state legislature seats were lost to the democratic party, and the republicans have that 33 governorships, and it has been bad for the democrats for the
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last eight years, and now the republicans have the majority in the house and senate and a lot of it is on his shoulders and a loft it is because he had his own organization and abandoned the dnc, and when hillary clinton came in she was better than he was in terms of trying to, you know, use her power as the top of the ticket to help out with lower down ballot democrats, and ultimately she did do a fairly poor job at reaching out to people who were disaffected, and not really interested in where people could go to the bathroom in north carolina, and things like that, and obama had a point there when it came to clinton's campaign, and he acknowledged this yesterday during his press conference, and he also shared some of the blame for letting the organization go. >> thank you both for joining us today. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. turning to the day's other top story. a dangerous arctic blast is gripping much of the country as
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a snow-packing snow, sleet and rain hits the united states. and morgan is in new york, and what is the situation where you are? >> reporter: good morning. 150 million americans waking up this morning to a winter weather advisory and is not only because of the snow in the sky, the ice on the roads, but also because of the dangerously cold windchills that are sweeping the country, and some places are feeling temperatures 30 degrees below zero. >> a winter whiteout. blankets of snow barrelling across the great plains, and slamming the northeast this morning. >> i hate winter. >> out west, neighbors in wyoming race against the clock to clear snow-covered streets. >> even though it's 9 degrees out now, the temperatures are still supposed to keep dropping. >> reporter: hoping to avoid
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accidents like this in minnesota, where icy roads caused hundreds of crashes in less than 24 hours, and sent this tractor trailer is sliding off the highway, and a similar scene in utah, and hail pounded the ground. temperatures set to break record lows in cities like minneapolis, bismarck, pierre, and chicago, where the high for sunday is expected to be negative 2. the first time the windy city has seen a high below zero in 33 kwraefrz. next, the northeast, and firefighters battled flames and temperatures below zero. >> the ladders are frozen. >> reporter: facing more of the bone-chilling freeze, residents are taking matters into their
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own hands. >> people should stay inside. don't be outside. it's not worth it. >> reporter: we're expecting to see up to 8 inches of snow slam the northeast this weekend, but as the snow turns to freezing rain, experts say you should be extra cautious, especially if you are plan be to be on the roads. russia's motives for hacking, we'll talk about that. why do house matters briefed on the moment disagree that putin agreed to help trump. >> our goal continues to be to send a clear message to russia or others not to do this to us, because we can do stuff to you. whenever i try to grow out my hair, strands always break off.
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later today donald trump will take the stage in alabama which voted for him over hillary clinton by a two to one margin on november 8th. what is the latest from the trump camp? >> reporter: moments ago, we received the official release that trump continues to build his cabinet. that's an important position when it comes to being in charge of the country's budget and allows the policies and regulations involved there, so the south carolina congressman getting a nomination for that position, and we are in mobile, alabama, this morning, and this is part of the tour that donald trump has been doing to say thank you to voters, and most of those stops have been in places
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where he was not as expected to win or his victory was part of the necessary math to get him over the hump. alabama did not fit into that. this was a red state that was always going to be in donald trump's column based on history but it's the home of his choice for the next attorney general of the united states, and that's alabama's senator, jeff sessions. that's part of why donald trump will be here. as we have been watching these events unfold he talked about a lot of events around the world, and he talks about his domestic policies but what has been noticeably absent from conversations in the crowds, he's not talking about russia and the hack on the u.s. election. the president-elect took his thank you tour to orlando, florida, friday night. >> i love this state, and i love the people, and i love -- >> reporter: but donald trump
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ignored the controversy over vladimir putin and russia's cyber attack on the u.s. election, and several hours late earlier, president obama urged trump. in a speech to clinton's campaign donors, clinton said her past criticism of putin's illegitimate election made her his target. >> vladimir putin himself directed the covert cyber attacks against our electoral system and against our democracy apparently because he has a personal beef against me. >> reporter: clinton blamed putin and the fbi letter about the e-mail investigation for her defeat. >> i happen to believe this,
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that that letter most likely made the difference in the outcome. >> reporter: preparing to leave the white house, first lady, michelle obama, hinted at her disappointment over the results in an interview with oprah winfrey. >> now we are feeling what not having hope feels like, you know. hope is necessary. it's a necessary concept, and barack did not just talk about hope because he thought it was a nice slogan to get votes. he and i and so many believe -- what else do you have if you don't have hope? >> reporter: mrs. obama did not specifically address donald trump when she was making those comments. she also described her husband as being seen by the american people in her judgment as a grown up in the white house, and we don't know if she was making a comparison there to the next president who will be coming into office, and while the
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obamas are spending the holidays in hawaii, and trump will be continuing to fill out his administration as we just saw with the news that he is choosing the congressman from south carolina to lead the office of management and budget. >> it's official today. thank you. now to new information on how russia's interference in the u.s. election unfolded and president obama explained his approach in a news conference yesterday. >> in this hyperpartisan atmosphere, in a time when my primary concern was making sure the integrity of the election process was not in any way damaged, at a time when anything that was said by me or anybody in the white house would immediately be seen through a partisan lens, i wanted to make sure that everybody understood we were playing this thing straight, and we were not trying to advantage one side or another. >> joining me now is a member of
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the house intelligence committee. thank you for being with us today. >> good morning. >> good morning to you. last week a congressman shipp said it was a mistake the administration did not deal with it more forcefully. >> it was a no-win situation for the president where he was really in a bind on how much he could have said. the truth is without knowing all the details until the full report, until the full investigation was done, it was really hard to stop what had been happening for months and months now, and in hindsight, yes, i wish the president and others in leadership would have spoken about this, and it was a tough situation for the president. >> there are new reports saying the fbi agrees with the cia's assessment that russia interferes with the election in part to help trump win, and the
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chair of the house intel committee said we have not received any information from the intelligence community agencies indicating they have assessments on this issue, and i am alarmed new information is leaked to the media but has not been given to congress, so you have had a briefing from the cia and fbi on this matter? >> i have to be careful, and what we are seeing from the various public reports is all the intelligence agencies have confirmed that russia and vladimir putin himself was behind these hacks on our election process, and it should not matter if you are a republican or democrat, you should want a full investigation to get to the bottom of this, and this is uncharted territory, and we are in a new era where cyber attacks are becoming the
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new normal, and that's why i have been pushing for a 9/11 type of commission so this is transparent and open for the public to see, and further that we have the rules of war outlined, so people and adversaries, whether it's state actors or not know, if they mess with us, that's it's elections or universities or a government agency they tried to hack, there will be a response. we are seeing some of that now from the president yesterday and his press conference making it clear to those that are attempting this, that there will be a response out there. you may know about it publicly and you may not, but we cannot continue to allow this sort of cyber attack to happen, and this is a new world that we are living in and i believe one of the greatest threats we face as a country. >> is it unequivocal to you, that russia tampered in the election to help donald trump, and does intelligence suggest that? >> yes, there's an abundance of evidence and information pointing very clearly to russia,
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and we have seen public reports even that point directly to vladimir putin himself, and how this started and why, you know, and we can all talk about and try to figure out why this was the case, but the facts are clear that this was russia trying to tamper with our elections. >> do you think it affect the outcome of the election? >> i think that will take some time to figure out exactly as we learn more about this and as information becomes public, but there's no doubt with the hacks of the e-mails and the hacks of the dnc, the information, the false information being pushed, there's no doubt we have seen all the reports of americans continuing to read misinformation and believe that, so there's no doubt that that had an impact, and did it swing the election or not? i am not the political pundit here, but i do believe it had some sort of impact and was it the 1% that swung some states,
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and there's a case to be made that it did. >> you talked about response. what kind of response could the u.s. undertake here? >> that's above my pay grade, but there's various courses of action that can be taken, and as the president said, it may or may not be cyber, and it might be other methods such as sanctions, and there could be other forms of engagement to make sure russia and those responsible for this know that we know, and that we are not going to tolerate it. i think there's a certain element where the public must know so other countries that are thinking about hacking us or attacking us in various ways know that we are not going to sit idly by, which is exactly why we need to set the rules of engagement, so the world knows that in this new world of cyber, where we are all so connected, that we cannot just allow this to happen. imagine if somebody had come
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into the dnc and stole file cab tphepb cabnets, and it was not known for sometime and it was less intrucive, and because of this it had made it tougher for a response, certainly in a bipartisan way and certainly as a country to the other countries. >> interesting. thank you so much for joining us with your insight. 34 days and counting. russia awaits the change at the white house, and in a moment nbc's richard engel reports from moscow on a pro trump anticipation.
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expected to presume today over a deal that would halt fighting. there was a shooting at a crossing point yesterday, and meanwhile the u.n. security counsel is expected this weekend to resume talks about international monitors. u.s. ambassador to the u.n., samantha power, favors the french plan and says a vote on it will come this weekend. and then president obama responds and said he did not want to appear giving an advantage to one side or the other, and the kremlin is demanding proof of the claims. richard engel is in moscow with more on this. the kremlin has been down playing this? >> reporter: they have not commented in any official way
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since the president spoke and there have been no comments from vladimir putin who wrapped up a visit to japan and no top kremlin official has spoken about it, and even on the state-run media here, it's barely getting any attention at all, if it is mentioned, it's the fifth or sixth item in the newscast, and when it is brought up, it's dismissed with officials and newscasters saying this is an attempt by the democratic party and the intelligence community to dispute the disruptions of the election, and the burden of proof lies with the united states to present evidence, so yes, as you would say, i would say they are downplaying it and being quite dismissive. >> what is the mood, would you say, among people there as u.s.
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and russian relations has taken a bit of a downturn with this? >> reporter: this may be the lowest point in u.s. and russian relations in many years, and they started to decline when russia annexed crimea and started its mostly covert operations in ukraine around the time of the sochi olympics and now they are probably at their worst point, but russians are looking beyond this period and the kremlin is looking beyond this period, and they think they can wait out the obama administration and wait for the trump administration, and they fully expect and have good reason to believe that the trump cabinet will be much more friendly to moscow, and donald trump said he wants better relations with vladimir putin, and look who donald trump has picked to be his next secretary of state, a man given a medal
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for friendship by vladimir putin. >> it's all very interesting, and i know you have been getting word from people in moscow young and old about how they feel about, and we appreciate your insight, and thank you for joining us today. intel briefings. donald trump says he does not need them? what is at stake? an analyst that provides daily briefings joins us next. [ sneezes ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i'm so stuffed up, i can't rest.
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now back to politics. president obama spoke about assessments from intelligence officials on russia's involvement in the u.s. elections, and here's what he had to say. >> what we simply said is the facts, which are that based on uniform intelligence assessments, the russians were responsible for hacking the dnc.
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that should be a bipartisan issue. >> joining me now is david prees, the author of "the president's book of secrets. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you for having me. >> president obama sounds pretty convinced by these assessments regarding russian hack into the election, do you think he has seen tangible evidence, and what kind of evidence might exist. >> when the intelligence community puts forward a judgment in the daily brief and gives it to the president with that confidence, they usually back it up to explain why they got to that judgment, and then they explain what the alternatives could be and why they are less compelling. i have no reason to believe that this is a highly qualified assessment, or one that has a lot of uncertainty around it, and all of the presentations of it that we have seen and the comments from the president himself indicate that there's a lot of uncertainty around this. >> and donald trump is receiving
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three times a week, and after donald trump explained why he did not receive the briefings on a daily basis saying this. >> i don't have to be told -- i'm a smart person, and i don't have to be told the same thing and the same words every day for the next eight years. >> david, as somebody who has been given daily briefings, what is your reaction to president-elect's at toward toward them? >> there's a misunderstanding about the briefings, and it's not to make up for a lack of intelligence in the policy maker himself. it's to bring that policy maker, in this case, the president-elect up to speed on various issues around the world from classified and unclassified sources to reducing the uncertainty out there, and some of the smartest people i have
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worked with at the agencies and elsewhere are the people who realize they don't know everything and will do better if they get information, and my advice to trump, take the damn intelligence briefings. there are no better allies than intelligence analysts trying to give you the intelligence around the world. >> the fact that you have given these briefings, and trump mentioned not needing to hear the same information over and over, and how much is repetitive? >> i can see what he might mean, if he is getting a briefing once a week, and the articles coming to him to read and the topics being discussed by the briefers are the same. that is, it's an update on what is going on in mosul, or an update on what is going on in
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aleppo. he might look at that casually and say, they are briefing me the same things. there are nuances in there, and reading the document every day and getting briefings every day will show the president-elect those nuances and nothing is presented exactly the same in the president's daily brief every day. it's an update. the analyst take a chance to put new information out there, to update their assessments. those might be incremental changes, marginal changes, but they are changes on what is going on out there, and by taking the briefings more often, he will see those and why they matter. >> how critical is the information between the president and the briefer? >> there needs to be trust there, and the briefer is giving the president news that the president doesn't want to hear but needs to hear, and there's
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got to be a level of trust that you will give the best assessment out there, and from the president's side there has to be the expectation that the information will be received and not received, the president should hear out the case that the intelligence briefer presents, and without that the president merely dismisses one great tool he has. >> you have given these briefings. has there been a situation where when it comes to national security you gave a briefing and the president acted on the information you posed? >> yeah, there are plenty of cases of this through history, and in one case bill clinton told me he read a president's daily brief article in the late 1990s as he was about to meet
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with the pakistany prime minister and he let him know that they did not have the perfect understanding of the capabilities and tensions at a time when they were shooting across the border at each other and this was dangerous because they both had nuclear weapons and bill clinton said he used the information in that briefing that morning to walk the pakistani president backing from what could have been a war. >> former cia director told "the guardian," as director of cia, if it's not used or rejected or contradicted under what moral authority than would i as a director send these men and women out to do it. do you see it becoming an issue under the trump administration? >> yes, and no. it can become a an issue if the president disparages
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intelligence analysis, and by implication the immense efforts that the officers go to collect that information, and we have to remember intelligence is not all about the president, and there's the vice president that appears to be taking daily briefings and the national security adviser and hundreds and thousands that take intelligence seriously and act on it, and even if the president doesn't love the intelligence agencies enough, there's other people in the policy-making community appreciate what the intelligence can do for them, and intelligence collection and analysis will continue and we hope the president appreciates the value of it himself. >> david priest, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, betty. up next, what americans think about trump's handling of the transition, and the roots of fake news, and how it flourished after the kennedy assassination.
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despite donald trump's low approval rating, his backers explain why they believe he will bring the country together. >> he's working bipartisan. he's choosing his cabinet and everything in a way that is hopefully pleasing to both sides. he's working in the middle, and he's choosing the best people for the job whether he likes them or not. so maybe if everybody can say i don't like you either and everybody work together more. >> let's bring in nbc news "wall street journal" pollster who conducted the focus group. several people in the group expressed hope that trump would be a unifier, and where is that hope coming from after an election that was considered to be so divisive? >> it's coming where they are
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looking for somethinging good to happen and they are giving him a huge and long leash to make things good happen and especially in the area of jobs, and changes, fixing, mending health care. and those are the two elements that really came out in this, and at the same time these voters also had some concerns and uncertainties, and this was, by the way, done for the center for policy. >> what was the main question you wanted to get answered go into this group? what were you most curious about? >> i was most curious about their expectations and also their -- their uncertainties, and what we found is when it came to uncertainties, these people worried about his being president, when he is on twitter, that bothers them. they see that as a juvenile unpresidential -- they don't like it. when they see his children in
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the room they think there's an encroachment, that's a step too far, and when he is not taking briefings, and that's bothers them not only because he is not hearing the briefing but he's not questioning the people doing the briefing, and they want him to be and act presidential, and the campaign was one thing when you take the oath of office you better be ready and do the job. >> even in the group, many still concerned over the intelligence briefings. >> i think him being an unexperienced government official, there are things others know that he needs to know. >> i think a president needs to be pro active instead of reactive and people can't do that until they know what is going on. >> is it enough to make
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everybody regret how they voted? >> no, they were pleased with how they voted. they were not all just republicans, but these were people that voted for either barack obama or bill clinton in the past. half of them. and what it really comes down to is they are not regretting but what they are do something setting a mark and saying, act presidential, and part of that is the intelligence briefing and part of that is understanding and being involved in what is happening, and they worry about there's a sense of detachment rather than involvement, and when he does prettier at 4:45 in the morning, they say what is a person doing up at 4:45 in the morning and being on twitter. they see that as abnormal behavior. >> you are not up at 4:45 on twitter? >> just missed it, betty. >> you asked why they thought
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trump would be a good president? does it differ from what you heard elsewhere in the country? >> certainly there's still a polarized view about donald trump. in terms of his supporters, no, they are true believers. these are the people who yell usa, usa, and at the same time they are looking at it through their own lens and how immigration affects them, and how any of the economic issues affect them, and so it's very different, and part of this is they don't think the president should take -- the president-elect should take the russian problem and the hacking seriously. so those things will change, but the one thing that is there is that his saw poeupporters are g him a very long leash. >> what surprised you the most out of the group? >> what surprised me most is that they were not willing to sort of engage on the most basic american elements, and part of
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