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today, a far cry from the weather elsewhere around the country with snow and ice causing dangerous driving conditions from denver to chicago to buffalo. first we go straight to alabama where president-elect donald trump will take the stage, his last rally before the holidays. kelly owe doab'donnell joins us. trump didn't mention anything about russia or the findings ned. should we expect to hear him talk about it today? >> i don't think it will be part of his planned remarks here. we've seen a pattern with donald trump at these thank you events as he calls them. he comes out to engage with his supporters, the people who voted him in. they relive a little of the election cycle. he does talk about policy, things domestic. he has did he sightedly not
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spoken about russia. that is notable because of the relationship he has had with vladimir putin from afar. the way he has been so much less willing to join others in government to say that there should be a bipartisan investigation of what happened with russia doing hacking against the dnc and top hillary clinton aide. president obama asked donald trump to do this, to say he would support such an investigation. he has not done that yet. there are those in the trump circle who feel any discussion of the cyber hacking is a way to undercut his victory. the white house and other officials say the interference from russia did not alter the outcome in terms of actual votes cast and the election totals. but was intended and u.s. intelligence community said it was intended to mess with the election in the u.s., not necessarily to have a specific result. we don't necessarily think he will veer from that today in
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mobile, alabama. it's the last of these thank you rallies before the holidays. it is pleasant temperature but windy and rainy. this open air stadium will be a test for those supporters who have to pick between doing their holiday odds and ends and being here. jeff sessions trump's selection to be the next attorney general. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you very much. let's go live to columbus, ohio, and a public memorial service for john glenn, the former astronaut and former u.s. senator died last week at the age of 95. vice president biden is among the speakers. >> on display for your children and the whole world to see. you all know it. you can tell when a couple really, genuinely loves and enjoys one another. it was infectious.
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on behalf of president obama and the first lady, on behalf of the american people, jill and i are here because we love you annie and we love john. together, you taught us all how to love. that's not something you usually talk about when you talk about heros, especially heroes like john glenn who lived a life that was rigorous but tinged with just a little bit of magic. just a little bit of magic. we talk about daring spirit, poise under pressure, mental and physical toughness, but for all his heroism, as history will remember in war, in space, in public life, you felt something deeper with john. annie on the way to get to air force 2 i got a call from john kerry who is somewhere over the
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atlantic on the way to another mission in the middle east to try to deal with yemen. he told me about his time he got to spend with you a couple of days ago and the family. he pointed out, he said, joe, you know, john's only the ninth person in history in the state of ohio to ever lie in state. governor, i didn't know that. only the ninth in history. and he said that he talked about how much it meant to him to be with you. he gave spontaneously what i think is maybe the best description of john glenn i ever heard. i knew john for 40 years. he said, john came out of the heart of the country like you kids do and he stole america's heart. he came out of the heart of the country and he stole america's
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heart. and he did. he stole america's heart. i remember as a kid, freshman in college, john's historic flight. and annie, you and john and jill and i have been friends for 40 years. i know others have longer relationships, but what a wonderful 40 years it's been. we served in the senate together side by side for 25 years and we traveled around the world together. john was one of the happiest people i ever knew. think about it. one of the happiest people i ever knew. he had that infectious smile, even when things looked like everything was crashing down, john would walk in my office or walk into a caucus with that big smile on his face and i wonder where in the hell has he been? did he not just hear what i just heard?
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you think i'm kidding. i'm not kidding. but the world knew and respected john from columbus to cambodia to washington to beijing. he loved being a senator. he loved his constituents and his colleagues. he loved his staff, many of whom are here today, and boy, did they love him back. and you could feel his love for his country and for his state and for the marine corps. he was kind of partial to nasa. most especially, we felt his love for you annie, david and lynn and his grandchildren. all you had to do, as i said, was see john and annie just walk together. just the way they looked at each other and you knew. that's what it's supposed to be like. i said that to annie today before we came in and she said
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that's like you and jill. i said, no, it's different. everybody knows i love jill more than she loves me. i think you loved him just as much. the last time we were together when jill and i had annie and john over to the vice president's residence i was looking at the picture this morning, annie, of you guys walking down the steps, walking out to the gate and jill and i behind you. and the words of the poet christopher marlowe literally came to mind. i had to rewrite this on the way to the plane. christopher marlowe said, come with me and be my love, and all the pleasures we shall prove. well together, annie -- excuse
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me -- you and john proved all the pleasures. you not only had a magical love affair, the other thing about you, you were partners. you were glad partners. together you bore the weight of fame and responsibility with enormous humility. and a sense of duty that defined you as the greatest of america's greatest generation. i think john defined what it meant to be america, what it meant to be an american, what we were about, just by how he acted. it was always about promise. we were a country of possibilities, opportunity, always a belief in tomorrow. tomorrow. when john was at the house a couple of years ago, that's all he kept talking about was what are you going to do now, joe?
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what are we going to do tomorrow? we have all these opportunities. together, you and john taught us that a good life is built not on a single historic act or multiple acts of heroism, but of a thousand little things. a thousand little things that build character. treating everyone with dignity and respect. john was one of my few colleagues we would go in the rest room where is there a shoe shine guy, john would always pat him on the shoulder and give him a hug. understanding that despite fame and position, everybody was john's equal. everybody was john's equal in his mind. it all comes down to being personal. president always kids me, annie because i'm getting old enough now i could even try to improve
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on tip o'neil's add nomonition t all politics is local. i don't think john agreed with that either. i think he thought all politics is personal. it's all personal. it all comes down to being personal. to being there for family and being there for friends, in good times and in bad times, like you and john were there for me and jill when what is in the hospital. you were there for us when our son beau was deployed, and you were there when we buried him. it's all about being personal. annie, you and john, as was mentioned earlier by the first speaker, were with, i happened to be with ethel kennedy at an
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awards ceremony in new york, the ripple of hope ceremony. i was ironically, fellow who runs my office who is an ohio guy said john wasn't doing well. you ought to call john. i had a brief discussion with ethel. i sat with her. the story is well known about him talking to the kids and being sent back to green hill. what struck me was, i was told that when you and john got to hickory hill, john walked into senator kennedy's private study and saw that robert kennedy, who was the only political rival i had in my life, had out a book of ralph walter emerson's poetry. it was opened up and a leaf of the book there in the margins were comments made by robert
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kennedy. and the passage that john, i'm told, remembered was where emerson said, "this time, like all times, is a very good one if we but know what to do with it." think i like most about john was he knew from his upbringing that ordinary americans could do extraordinary things. ordinary americans could do extraordinary things. and he believed, i believe, he was confident that every successive generation would know what to do with it. and that's the charge i think john left us, annie. to join our nation's conquest and our nation's explorations as
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a challenge, not only to fulfill a sacred duty, but to join in this joyous adventure. so when the marine plays taps on the bugle at arlington for our friend, we can look deep into the heavens and know with certitude that john believed and was right that future generations of americans will also look deep within the heavens and understand how to explore, how to serve, how to love. and will come to understand that if we're looking for a message to send about our time here on earth for what it means to be an american, it's the life of john glenn, and that is not hyperbole.
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so god bless you, john. god bless you, annie. and may god protect our troops. >> that is vice president joe biden speaking in columbus, ohio, at the funeral memorial for a true american hero john glenn, world war ii fighter pilot, astronaut, senator who passed away at 95 and will be truly missed. let's return to politics now. with just 34 days before the president-elect is sworn in, there are findings russia intended to meddle with the election. joining me to discuss this is k clayton dawson.
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cayton, president obama yesterday saying appropriate actions will continue to be taken against russia. during the campaign and after, we heard mixed messages from president-elect trump. at some points continue to seemingly encourage this kind of activity at some point. seeming to deny that it happened. what is going to happen 34 days from now when he takes office in regard to this? >> the easiest way i can explain it is what george bush told us on the way out. i'll make it a quick story. he said when the president of the united states takes the threat assessment book and is the president of the united states of everybody, your life changes. i think barack obama would agree with that. once you become president of the united states, you have all the responsibilities, you'll see trump's demeanor change. i don't think his twitter account will change. we understand the power of that when it comes to policies.
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i think you'll see a more serious president. us republicans are ecstatic about his cabinet picks. the demeanor will change but be driven from a chief executive of the united states listening to his advisors is what we expect. >> he wants to pay more attention to auto correct. wasn't it last night unprecedented? here is hillary clinton yesterday reacting to nbc's reporting that president putin was personally involved in the use of hacked material. take a listen to that. >> is determined not only to, you know, score a point against me -- which he did -- but also to undermine our democracy. >> she is trying to acknowledge it was not just an attack on her but american democracy. does the public see it that way?
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>> i don't think so yet. everybody can understand why hillary clinton would respond in this manner and democrats who have been frustrated with the outcome of the election would respond. these reports coming from the cia and fbi give them evidence to support that. i think in order to bring the american public around, you're going to have to present them with real evidence as to what happened. that is where we've been lacking. president obama did call for a study that is supposed to come out the day he leaves office. i do think it's going to take that real evidence for the american public to join in this crusade. unfortunately for president obama to make the case before the evidence is fully there is where the disconnect is to a certain extent. i would say i think donald trump should join the president calling for a study. he doesn't have to say he agrees with it or this happens, but say let's kwet all the evidence. that's way think is missing from donald trump. to say this isn't true, nothing
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to look at here, i think, you have the cia and fbi saying there is something here. you've got to look into it. i'm hopeful you are right he will join looking into that. >> most people feel this is bad for absolutely everyone in our country in several different ways. is there a coordinated plan among top democrats on the hill specifically to use this kind of information to their benefit, particularly during confirmation hearings? >> just to -- i think this is not a partisan issue. this should be bipartisan issue. what is happening right now, what we are learning about russia and we've been hearing since october, before october, was that with the hacking this is incredibly dangerous. let's not forget the last press conference donald trump had in july, he invited russia to partake in espionage and step into our election cycle.
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so i think we can't forget that this is incredibly dangerous and shouldn't be a partisan issue. republicans should stand along with democrats and push back. this could be the modern age of how wars are done, with cyber attacks. this is dangerous. donald trump needs to stop fanning the flames of conspiracy towards the cia, towards the fbi and stand with president obama on this. >> this is one complicated issue, for sure. thank you for joining us today. democratic roy cooper will be sporn in next month as north carolina's next governor, but he will take office with far less power than his pred ses dwreces. the power grab in north carolina. [ sneezes ]
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it is called a legislative coup. law makeers in north carolina passed a series of laws that stripped power from newly elected democratic governor roy cooper this follows a consent yus election last month where cooper defeated pat mccrory by only 10,000 votes. protesters were arrested this week and removed from chamber galleries as the general assembly moved forward. joining me is colin campbell, reporter for the raleigh news and observer who has been following this story closely. to start, these new measures were pushed through the state legislature despite protests. tell bus the changes and effect it will have on cooper as he takes office. >> there are several bills passed this weekend. originally started as a session for disaster relief issues beme appointment of power. the big ones are governor
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cooper's cabinet has to go through a senate confirmation process like the president's cabinet appointments go through. there are changes to board appointments the government is going to have and major changes to the control of the elections process in this state. the governor's party particularly controls the election boards this would change to it a bipartisan election board which would be half and half, likely to deadlock and doesn't give democrats power to increase early voting. >> it happened during a lame duck session. it was supposed to be about disaster relief. tell us how this changed and changed so quickly. >> they came in the beginning of this week to deal with disaster relief. north carolina was hit hard by hurricane matthew's floods as well as wildfires there was a need of funding for that. governor mccrory opened a session for that. he left open they could talk about any topic they wanted.
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they ended the disaster relief session and called a second special session to begin two hours later. they wouldn't tell the press or democrats or anyone else what was on the agenda until after the session began. we had to parch through the bills as they are being filed to see why the special session was occurred or what they had in mind to change. >> what does the incoming governor has as any possibilities to handle this situation? court or is there nothing he can do? >> he's looking to the courts at this point. cooper vowed to look at ways which these laws may be unconstitutional and sue the legislature. that's likely scenario short term. longer term we've got special elections in redrawn. a number legislatures will be up for election in 2017 november. that's where the democrats would like to be able to take back a
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larger share of the legislature. if they aren't able to get relief from courts, make changes through that approach. >> colin campbell, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. i know donald trump very well. i think his attitude, his support for israel is clear. he feels very warmly about the jewish state about the jewish people, and about jewish people. there's no question about that. >> that is benjamin netanyahu. before that aired, president-elect named david friedman. he is considered a hardliner. he showed his differences with the obama white house saying he looks forward to doing his job "from the u.s. embassy in israel's eternal capital, jerusalem."
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ambassador, for decades the u.s. said jerusalem's status can only be determined through a peace deal between israelis and palestinians. when you heard david friedman would be the choice and says things like that, what is your reaction to the concept of moving the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem? what is the impact that would have? >> i was dismayed by the appointment. it signals that the trump administration will try to end a 50-year policy of the u.s. in making peace between the palestinians and israelis. that is a radical departure for the u.s. that can only hurt the u.s. it will hurt israelis and palestinians, too. >> friedman writes a column. he said, "there has never been a
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two-state solution, only a two-state narrative." how does that view impact any chance of a peace deal during mr. trump's time in office? how does it affect relationships with palestinians with our allies and our enemies, as well? >> it will alienate us and weaken our influence which we had. we took the lead in the past. not only successfully in trying to make peace. we have adopted a very partisan position if trump goes through with this, aligning ourselves with the most radical extremist government in history of israel. the only solution for israel and the palestinians is a division of the land into two states. jerusalem is the capital of both states. trump and david freeman don't believe in that. they're going to make matters
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even worse in the middle east at the expense of the whole region and of the united states the jewish and palestinian people. >> it's an idea that is radical, including for many people in israel itself. "the new york times" says freeman has linked left-leading jews in this country to jews who aided the nazis in the holocaust. what is your reaction to comparisons like that? >> it's very ugly and disgraceful comparisons. there is a silent majority in israel. it is now politically weak. but the majority of the israeli public still support a two-state peace. a much larger majority of the american jewish community support two-state peace. freeman called them nazi collaborators which is shameful. the american jewish community as
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almost all americans support the security and well-being of israel. they support justice for the palestinians, and there would be no peace until both sides feel secure in states of their own. trump is moving this in the wrong direction and it's a very dangerous policy for the u.s. >> philip wilcox, former u.s. counsel general in jerusalem. thank you very much. the latest on the investigation into the u.s. election hack. we'll be joined by one of the reporters behind nbc news' exclusive report that russian president vladimir putin was involved in that operation.
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the holidays. weather creating dangerous condition for drivers in baltimore, maryland, three people died in two separate incidents on an icy stretch of highway. two people were killed when a gas tanker truck skidded off the road overnight bursting into flames. debris from the crash flew across the highway triggering a 55-vehicle pile-up. crews were out this afternoon working to remove damaged vehicles from the road. it is not just snow and ice. freezing temperatures are set to break records this weekend. morgan radford is following this winter weather in suffern, new york. >> the temperature is in the 20s here. earlier today it was snowing, then that snow turned into freezing rain and began to coat the roadways here. that's part of what we are seeing happen throughout the country. it's caused major accidents like the one in baltimore. that was a multivehicle crash. first responders are removing cars from the side of the highway. that has people here in the
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northeast extremely alert. take a listen. >> you just have to go really slow. when you come to a stop sign, it's not the normal procedure. you've got to start slowing down way before you normally would do so in normal driving conditions. >> i think the got cold earlier and took some people by surprise. we're ready for it. i have a four-wheel drive so no problem. >> hundreds of flights have also been canceled throughout the country. this is as major airways had to close down their runways because of icy roads. 150 million americans still under a winter weather advisory. >> morgan radford, thank you. president obama at a news conference yesterday made no secret who he thinks is behind reports of the russian hacking. >> in early september when i saw president putin in china, i felt
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the most effective way to ensure that that didn't happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out, there were going to be serious consequences if he didn't. >> there is consensus among u.s. intelligence agencies russian president vladimir putin was personally involved in those hacks intending to help donald trump win the election. sources told nbc news the obama administration did not respond more forcefully because it didn't want to appear to be interfering with the election and thought hillary clinton would ultimately win. joining me now is nbc intelligence national security reporter. >> good to be with you. >> how is the white house responding to criticism it should have been more forceful about these russian attacks from the beginning? >> as you just said, the president is saying publically we didn't want to appear to be interfering in the election on the side of hillary clinton who is being hurt by these hacks. if we made a big deal it would have become political.
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privately, they are saying other things. one, they assumed clinton was going to win and had plenty of time to respond. secondly, they didn't want a cyber escalation with russia. also, there was a concern, there were some people in the intelligence community that didn't sake this as seriously as they seem to be taking it now. there was a concern the hacking would be worse. the nightmare scenario would be interference with the actual vote count. what they were really concerned about is hillary clinton wins the election in a close race but there is enough russian misinformation that hacking and fake news trump is able to raise questions about the outcome. for all those reasons they didn't talk about it as much as they would before the election. >> the fbi has come around accepting the cia's findings that the hacks were geared toward helping trump win. why do you think the fbi was resistant to the idea at first and why do you think it pivoted? >> i'm glad you asked that question. our latest reporting is it
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really didn't pivot. there was a sense that the fbi wasn't all the way there. that sense, we're now being told and pete williams has done great reporting, that was mainly created by congressional republicans who seem to be trying to muddy the waters here. position of u.s. intelligence officials now is that the fbi was always on the same page. they always believed electing trump or recently that electing trump was part of the motive. the other part of the motive was to destabilize and undermine american democracy. >> trump raised questions about the credibility of the u.s. intelligence community and their statements on this. what has been the reaction among the intelligence community itself. >> people i talk to are deeply, deeply disturbed by trump's tweets seeming to impugn intelligence officers who are for the most part nonpolitical. rich burr chairman of the senate intelligence committee issued a powerful statement friday where he accepted the idea russia was
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behind the hacks. he also pointed out that intelligence officers tend to be nonpartisan, they are patriots and risk their lives to the country. it seemed to be a veiled message to trump to back off on that line. >> thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. let's bring in timothy frye from columbia university. i want to listen to what president obama said about the state of relations with russia before these hacks. >> the relationship between us in russia has deteriorated, sadly, significantly over the last several years. how we approach an appropriate response that increases costs for them for behavior like this in the future, but does not create problems for us is something that's worth taking the time to think through.
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>> it would certainly seem there may be a kdifferent dynamic coming with donned trump stald stepping into office. is that a good thing or bad thing? >> most people would like to see better relations between u.s. and russia. how do we get there? donald trump's position has been reshould review the annexation of crimea. we should be willing to ease sanctions and taking a more accommodative approach toward nato. many people believe this will reward russia for actions widely condemned in europe and the united states. what the hacking has done has poisoned the well. if president-elect trump pursues those policies, it will all be done under the cloud of assistance by the russians during the election. i think this will make mr. trump appear weak and will be seen as
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weak in moscow and weak across the globe because these policies are very close to what the kremlin would like. >> then there is his pick for secretary of state, rex tillerson in his work for exxon as formed a bond with the administration in russia. some people would consider that a positive and some people would consider it a definite negative. what do you think? >> i think compared to some of the other candidates that were mentioned, tillerson is a reasonable pick. there are many concerns here though. there are three layers in which the conflict of interest is a problem. he is arguably a virtuous man and very good businessman. even the virtuous businessman can pursue policies that will help exxon mobil and they lost $1 billion because of the sanctions. this is something, any optics of this don't look good. >> one more quick question. yesterday in his last press conference, president obama said ronald reagan would be rolling over in his grave what do you think? >> absolutely.
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he would be changing back to becoming a democrat. he said i didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me. that is absolutely true. >> timothy frye at columbia university, thank you for being with us today. >> my pleasure. the evacuation from aleppo, syria, continuing today as aide workers try desperately to save thousands from a place u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon calls a synonym for hell.
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people including women and children are still inside. joining us is president of refugees international. thank you for being here with us. what can you tell us about what's happening on the ground in aleppo and what is the reality for aide workers there? >> for aide workers, it's very difficult. each side to the conflict are trying to bring in arguments to justify the positions they are taking and making the work there very difficult for humanitarian workers. i'm very happy about 6,000 people were evacuated on thursday. right now the negotiations are taking perhaps too much time. i would certainly agree there are no good civilians and bad civilians, only civilians. whether they are under siege by one side or the other, they should all be given the civility to move away from the conflict zone and be brought to a safe place. the problems of course, those
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brought to italy, italy already has over 200,000 people displaced by the war. it's completely congested. it is occupied by fairly extreme militant group. the regime already attacked. we are evacuating people in a place that may become the next step in the conflict. we have to be clear people for the time being are not evacuated in conditions of absolute safety and in conditions where they can be treated very well. it's better where they come from in aleppo, but not going to allow people who suffered so much to recover quickly. >> if they do get out, given the on and off of the cease-fire, the head of the border patrol agency says 350,000 migrants arrived in the eu so far. some of this has been controversial. there has been backlash there. what impact does that have on efforts to find all these people who suffered so much?
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>> yes. the numbers in the european union are high. if you consider there are over 2 million refugees in turkey, 1 million in lebanon and 600,000 in jordan, the neighboring countries to syria responded generously. these neighboring countries were extremely good recipient of refugees in the first year. fatigue has worn them a little bit. the tolerance of the local population is ebbing. that's one of the reasons many refugees started moving toward europe. they could not leave in adequate conditions in neighboring countries. >> what do you think of what president-elect donald trump said that he would suspend the syrian refugee program in the u.s.? what do you think is the possibility of that and what kind of message is it sending? >> it's certainly not a message
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of burden sharing. the u.s. has taken about 12,000 syrian, canada has taken 25,000, the europeans are not showing a lot of support. traditionally, the u.s. has been fantastic leader in humanitarian causes. i would hope it will remain so. the indications so far are not very good. we hope that this will be reviewed. as i mentioned, the neighbors countries have done all they could. they are bursting over the seams on holding refugees, and we have to bring some sense of burden sharing. after all, the west is supporting some of the parties, and therefore, it has a duty towards the victims of the conflict. >> president of refugees international, thank you for being here. >> thank you. we are following a dramatic turn of events surrounding the university of minnesota football team. players who threatened to boycott their upcoming bowl game after ten players were suspended
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newly released video showing university of oklahoma football star joe mixon punching a woman in the face at a norman restaurant two years ago. we warn you, this video really is distajjing. restaurant surveillance shows mixon in a confrontation with a female student, she shoves him after she pushes him he punches her knocking her down and fracturing her jaw and cheekbone. mixon appall jigszed to the woman for that woman, that took place back in 2014. oklahoma suspended him from the football team for the season charged with a misdemeanor and reacheded a plea deal including a suspended sentence and 100 hours of community service. the video public only after media outlets sued for its release. the university of minnesota football team is ending their
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boycott and will play in the holiday bowl december 27th. >> so many people before us have given so much here on this football team. so many coach, staff, administrators, professors, alumni fans and our community have invested heavily in the success of our program. we will not and we recognize that we must not let those people down. >> the boycott threat came after ten of its players were suspended this week following a september sexual assault allegation. the accuser was drinking add sexually assault afrd the season opener. police made no arrest and no charges filed. the district attorney saying there wasn't enough admissible evidence to prove allegations beyond a reasonable doubt. from minneapolis, sports writer for the "st. paul pioneer press." thanks for being here. you have fold the story from the beginning. why did the team decide to boycott in the first place and why did they change their minds? >> they felt like their teammates were given unjust due
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process. they felt like they were being suspended without having the full facts on the table, and they felt like they were able to meet with university leaders, the president, the athletic director and board of regents to try and get the resci rescinded. the initial terms. after they were told those weren't on the table decided it was in their best interests giving the quote you had from their senior leader, there are much bigger things at stake in playing in the bowl game. >> the university says the suspensions were value based not legal, but have authorities said why the evidence wasn't good enough to press charges? >> no. i mean, you read the quote from the dpt district attorney saying there wasn't admissible evidence and no further details there. there are different legal standards here prp in the criminal justice system there's beyond a reasonable doubt and in
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title 9 investigation, it's a preponderance of evidence, much lesser standard, how they're able to have rulings such as these come down against these players, because there are different standards in the legal system here. >> it must be said that the team did today address the seriousness of sexual assault on college campus and met with university leaders yesterday. let's listen to a piece of that sound from the team first. >> sexual harassment and violence against women, they have not place on this campus, on our team, in society, and at no time should it ever be condoned. we recognize that there is a legal threshold and there's a normal threshold and a standard of values set forth by this university. there is only one acceptable way to treat all women, and that is with the utmost respect at all times. >> so the team met with the university leaders yesterday. what do you think was discussed and what happens next?
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>> well, what the players wanted to have discussed was the suspensions for their ten teammates belifted to play in the bowl game. that was the initial terms. sounds like was that not on the table for university leaders, and then the play herself to go back and decide what was in their best interests and they decided the boycott was something that needed to be lifted because they felt like it was important to do so. moving forward, the ten players will have a hearing in january, sounds like. that the president says we'll be very fair, to be able to determine what the future course is for these ten players and there are different variances there and what the recommended punishments will be. >> and greeter from t er frthan. and expected to take the stage in mobil, e, alabama, we'
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