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something is wrong with you, you can find me on snap chat and twitter and instagram. you can follow me right now on my snap phone. coming up in the canext, "meet press." this sunday, what do we know of what kind of president will donald trump be? >> i will pay for a great wall and i will have mexico pay for it. >> what we learned about mr. trump on domestic politics. >> some people won't pay taxes. >> on foreign policy. >> i like putin, bochling tmbin hell out of isis. >> we have to be a cheer leader for our country. >> this morning, the donald trump we saw and got to know right here on "meet the press" throughout this campaign. >> plus, christmas messages from presidents throughout the year
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>> this is the time of the year when most of us have trying to be better than our everyday selves. >> through the principle of peace. >> welcome to christmas sunday, it is "meet the press." from nbc news, from washington, this is "meet the press," chuck shod. good sunday morning, merry christmas. happy first days -- a year and a half predicted, for people who felt the look by democrats. many of whom were disgusted by his campaign and uncomfortable of his unpredictability.
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>> we'll look back at the 18 times that donald trump appeared on "meet the press" on this campaign and discuss the candidate and some of the journalists who have covered him closely. >> our hugh hewitt and katy tur right here and robert costa right here of course, wrote a lot of stories. welcome to all of you, happy holidays. we'll show these "meet the press" interviews by chunks. i want to begin with domestic policies. we'll begin with the issue that lies on our country for decades. >> abortion. >> to me, i have compensations, rape, incest if the mother is going to die and ronald reagan
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had the same exceptions. i would say rape and incest. >> i said actually if the mother is close to death. i am talking about death. >> because then you sort of saying -- >> well, that's the constitutional right between the mother and the unborn child, what's the constitutional right? >> my statement of that happens to be if the mother will die and you are going to know that and the problem with the life, what does life mean? you have a cold and you are going to end up -- >> you want to get rid of birther -- >> what they are doing? having a baby? >> you believe they are trying to do that and they are coming here? >> when we have some very good people, we have a lot of really good people, they are illegal. >> you don't have a country. >> we are going to try and bring
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them back rapidly. the good ones. >> you know the word "expedited." >> expedite. >> what do you do of the order where you had this ranked as a dream act, how do you want to refer to it that the executive order that the president -- >> one good thing -- >> you will rescind that one, too? >> we have to make a whole new set of standards and when people come in -- >> you will deport children. >> no, we'll keep the families together. >> we have to keep the family together. >> they have to go? >> what if they have no place to go? >> we'll work with them. either we have a country or we don't. >> tax point, you said you are going to raise taxes. a lot of people done the numbers. it is a big hole in the deficit until we find out.
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>> so, are you ready? >> we are cutting a lot. we are cutting taxes for r tthe income and middle class. >> everybody's taxes are going down? >> i love the idea of having a little in the game if we can. >> the fact that people are doing poorly and they are not doing a lot money. >> it is a dynamic plan and we'll grow the economy. >> the waste in this country is unbelievable. >> when you look at all -- >> getting rid of the entire department? >> i will get rid of some. some examples, department of education. >> you would get rid of it. >> if you look at jeb bush, he's a big common core person. i want local education. we can save a fortune with
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environmental protection. >> you are not going to get rid of a lot. >> you are not going to give up that much. >> it is going to be so strong that nobody is going to mess with us. we can do it for a lot less. >> nobody can seen and especially since you said, you are not going to do any cuts there asset all. if you take it at the table. >> it is unfair to put it under the table. people have been paying. >> i am going to take in so much money from china and other places. we have a trade deficit with china with $400 billion a year. i had it looked up the other day. i dependant believe it. >> the nifirst speech to come, what are those four? >> i want top take care of our
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veterans, they have been tai wa borders and fix our borders. >> people walking across the board and they have babies and they'll become citizens and we'll have to take kcare of the. >> describe the system that you want. >> first of all, what i do, i have a massive company of thousands of thousands of states. the insurance company takes care of the politicians so they don't want to get rid of a lot. >> if you get rid of it, you will have great, private and insurance. in addition to that, you have a savings or situation where you would have healthcare saving yours truly and it would be so fantastic. >> the problem is that the
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insurance company don't want to do this thing. >> and companies from iowa. >> you have to structure the governor to deal with it. >> you are going to have a great system. but, there will be people left that zront any money. >> i don't want people dying in the middle of the streets. >> it is not going to happen if i am president. >> this is using our hospitals to take care of people. urein burst medical. i am just saying. this had nothing to do with mew meranti. this has to do with having a heart. you defended the other work plan planned parenthood. and now you said -- you defunded. >> democrats will say money they give to planned parenthood do
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not go to abortions. it goes to women's health issues including mammogram and things like that. >> would you support funding in planned parenthood. >> i understand it. i have many friends who are woman and understand plans. >> they do a lot of women's health issues. one of the candidates i am not going to mention their name. i am. i am not going to fund it if it is doing the abortion. i am not going to fund it. >> you said there would be consequences for any company that tried to move or factoring it down. >> what's the -- what's the interesting thing that you would explain. >> and they say hi, here we are in mexico and enjoy the rest of
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your life and you hire people from mexico. now, they make their products and putting it in in the united states. they put it in the united states and we don't judge and taxed. >> move their plant to mexico and think they're going to sell those conditioners to the united states, it is going to be a tax. >> what kind of a tax are you ta thinking? >> 15% or 20%. it could be different than other companies. >> none of these will get through. >> we are going to renee shat and pull out. >> this trade deals are a disaster. >> there it is. part one, donald trump. domestic issues. lets dive right in. >> the first three items he brought up is dealing with immigration and obamacare and education. >> he did have consistency in
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some idealistic way. he did not have policy depth as what he was saying. we talk about healthcare reform, he's not realizing what gotten to describe him. >> and that's where the in clint road when we tried to dial it back or work around it. oftentimes he said in the after math of some of thesis comments that made it a little america aokiier. >> robert -- i think it is funny that you said, it was only republican leaders. >> that's going to happen the first several days. >> healthcare and medicare is where we see it >> 2016 was the year of donald trump's victory.
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we are watching donald trump going against the mainstream of he is party and i remember being on a plane with him on august 2016, how do you identify ourself ideologically. that's why a lot of the people in the party are the first independent people in the united states. >> i think he can become one. i can wayne watching those kinds of things. >> i was standing next to katie on the floor in cleave lands and the biggest applause, the biggest business president. i think he's going to deliver, he's becoming a conservative.
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he's becoming one. i think the scalia is an easy one for him. >> what would he do if there is a second seventh, that may e be changing. >> i am not so sure that donald trump is the -- this is the year that the republican party found out. it only existed. the base of the party and the reason like donald trump, they talk around their dinner party and including the article that you are throwing in. >> he talks about it. he said at the time it felt positive for him. >> and that is not what they want at all. they want the end of trade
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agreement and a lot of things that very. lets see how mouch he cares about this issues. and showing concerned members of the republican party. >> how much is donald trump leading policy and how much is leonys cabinet fishlts. i have to say, this was a shocking moment. >> they were thrilled at donald trump. they did not believe that he's not going to halve his hands on anything. they believe that hirl son was going to make the oil future's. >> i know, the mistake people mike is assuming -- when he cares about an issue, he cares
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about an issue. >> trump won the election. when i am not at the capitol, a lot of the congressional republicans, feel like they won the election too. >> he ran as a populous. >> you look at history and bill clint clinton's first term. when you had this majority, you think you can roll over a policy after policy. numb p didn't have the ban date for the campaign. >> that's ire that if donald trump is running this campaign. >> now, as he put his cabinet together. it is a series of executives who essentially of a for closure cane. >> let me close with this
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question. what's a one issue problem? >> if he does not keep it, he's got to worry about his own political stance. >> surveil the wall. >> actual law? >> 700 miles. >> you really believe that? >> i really believe that. >> he's got to create jobs. >> he's a builder and if the highway don't start getting built and factory don't come back, there is not infrastructure there. when we were in ohio talking the steel workers who were interested of two things, immigration and medium want h i am to pull out of nafta. >> is that year? when we come back, we'll hear from the candidate donald trump
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well, i watched the show. is there somebody a go to for you? >> well, probably two or three. >> every candidate. two probably, two or three. >> i think he's bright. >> jacob. jacob is a good guy and i see him on occasion. >> this horrible deal with iran. >> this deal, if you had the right, you had the pushers back years ago. >> iran still get money many. >> if you believe that.
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>> what deals did you come up with this. >> okay. >> i would tell them up front. we'll never give you back your $150 billion. >> number two, before we start th negotiations, you have to give us back without questions, you have to give them back and you don't want them but we do. it will help us making a better deal together, that's good for you. >> you will never get your $150 billion bag. they are going to be a wealthy and powerful nation, they're going to have nuclear weapon. thaer fwoing to take over parts the world. >> the people that negotiated those deals, kerri and his friends are incompetent. >> what do you do on day one, though? >> this is a secretary deal.
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>> basically did not lik like -- thought u.s. wanted the deal? >> too much. >> and hen he said, want blow out of the deal. >> i heard a lot of people saying well, they rip up the deal. i am a deal person. >> you get that. >> let me tell you. i have taken over some bad countries and i my krkts and peopi am really good at looking at contracts. i would say it is so tough that they don't have a chance. as matter as the crack is, i would be so tough. >> it is very hard to say we are whiing up. by the time we got in there, they received the $150 billion. >> you know if bill gets reje rejected.
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they woild still guld still get? >> do you think they'll be safe? >> it is not a contest. >> iraq is disaster. >> could be better in sudan. >> isis came out of iraq. >> i like putin. >> why do you trust him more than somebody else? >> we got a good relations on donald trump. did i get the ratings or did he? >> the truth is, it is not a question -- i don't want to see the united states. we pertinent now. we are destroying our country. here is the problem to what you are saying right here. >> we are fighting assad and we are fighting for people and helping people who we don't know who they are.
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they maybe worse. >> okay. >> they maybe worse and if fer saud never happened. you would not have the problem and the my dprags and you would not be talking about all of this country going on and what's going ochlt nn. now, they're talking about taking thousands of people and bringing them to the united states. i am not just justifying it. you watch and he will get bogged down there. he will spend a fortune and he will be begging to get out. everyone gotten into the middle east have had nothing but problems. >> let me give you one more issue where you went pounder when perceived on the republicans of orthodox. >> you said p wednesday, you want to be new ral in thutral i debut. explain what -- i did a
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commercial for benjamin netanyahu and he was getting elected. i did a commercial for him. i don't know to be -- look, the hordest thing to do in terms of deal. >> israel and palestinian, if you are going to make it, that probably is the hardest deal to milwaukee. >> peop make. >> i have to say it is mostly on the one side and not on the other side. people are thought hatred. if i am going to be president, i rather be in a position because i will drive the best i can. i am a good deal maker. so try to solve that puzzle. >> you are not going to solve it from one side or another. >> if i am going to solve the problem. i want to go in with a clean isolate. oers, you are never going to get the corporation of the other side. >> will you do the various hot
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spots around the world. >> hughe hewitt, do you think you know donald trump's foreign policy at this point? >> i though he's the most unpredictableable and interesting vinteres interviews. there is a good mix of this and the goodness and the unpredictable. i think there is a way to even understand the russia play as being a repurposes the least strong among russia and china and adversary. so i think he's going to available himself up. >> i think tillerson, tillerson is wonderful. >> i think jonah mathis, i think he's got a great team and he's
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going to work with him and i am optimist optimistic. >> just because of what he said, you don't always know. >> nixon, will get caught. but he can vary off in the populo populous. >> the changer in that that the strong camp in trump's world are scared. >> you got putinism, the idea of turning over so global leadership to russia is troubling. >> the semipieces is coin coing -- his language is not about specific countries that are allies. it is about christian verses is laum and the simulation are em ga embracing that. >> he never did that, george h.w. bush. he's echoing that christians
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line when you have this third baes which is his ambassador and could touch out -- i am not sure if donald trump knows his own mind enough to have a strategy to deal with absolutely crisis. >> i think joy makes a good point. if you see donald trump's first reacti reactions to thing whether it is eye la does he change and go nor towards the very conservative on the pem trspectrum. i think we need to have universal healthcare in the country. we need to take c.a.r.e. of everybody. >> later on it became much more
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harsher and a rally crowd revealing and replace obamacare. >> he starts out in a moderate position and moves to the right as people get inside his ear. >> did donald trump sees an opening within the republican party to manipulate them in a way that he did not see. what's thigh he's so forgive forgive. >> i want to bring up one point. is that don't pay attention because what ever the foreign policy is is, they're in a system cocaine. it usually is the last that we have on foreign policy. we don't know what the major former policy challenged. we don't know the challenge for trump. >> the president-elect trump is going to face the challenge immediately when he comes to office. >> one of them is the islamic state. he ran and distancing himself from the george h.w. bush's world view. >> he ran with -- he's going to
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be tested on day one. >> how does the inthe interact douse he confront the crisis in syria and disgruntled and worried by him. he's going to be pressured for a lot -- >> we cannot discount how his personal conflict wounds up influencing his policy. >> we don't know the ex pertinent to which his own interest may be yunsing, if his children are still running the company and there is his hotel to be built. these entanglement becomes really important and not to remember the fact that the republican strategyists say to
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me. how do we react of the war where the name of the president of the united states is plastered al over over. >> no one is less predictable. >> i would guess as to donald trump. on sunday, i hopes he keep osen oing it. >> they're dpoing to tune into find out what he thinks. >> president obama i think -- i am going to be curious to see at the end of four years. do we have a rival with china or russia? anyway, when we come back, we'll look at president-elect trump's leadership style. right after the praebreak, a lot presidential messages over the decade. here is a taste. >> for over two millennials, christmas has carried the language that god is with us.
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>> wish the word for goodwill among men.
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welcome back, we are taking a christmas break and look at messages from presidents throughout the year and thankfullithan thankfully, this is one tradition that is immune. we are joined by simple and universal convictions. >> treating one another with love and compassion. >> never too late to touch a life or maybe change the world forever with someone. our solemn faces and sad demeano demeanor. >> let us jus remember, we have
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some problems which we'll over come. >> the holidays are as we have seen here tonight, a time of lau laugh ter and children and counting our blessings. >> christmas has carried the ma message that god is with us. >> in which the work for goodwill i don't think men. >> it is a time of the year when most of us tried to be better than our evidence selves. >> let us, we dedicate ourselves to the principle of peace and goodwill towards man. >> merry christmas, we celebrate the blessing of the season. >> and the blessing that surrounds us everyday. >> reach out to those who can use a hand and the spirit of together has always helped to kindle america and challenge in the world. >> good advise for any time of the year but especially for the holiday season.
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welcome back, one thing we can agree on is donald trump was nothing if it was not for a different candidate and willing to insult one side of the country to win. never in doubt that donald was always, always the show. >> i was amused of this from the 1990. what is all this meaning talking about your yacht and casino and you reapplied props for the show and you said, "show for trump." are we all part of a show? >> no. >> you know some of the
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criticisms. we feel like -- are we in a reality show? >> this is a real deal >> you did smile when i read the show stuff. >> it is fine. >> look, my life has been an interesting life. i had a lot of fun. >> people call you a lot of names. some of it is positive and some of it is negative. >> i want to throw one. >> some people are calming you the music man. kardashian and george costanza. >> any of those you consider a compliment? >> we need pt barnum a little bit. we need to be a cheer leader of the country. >> transparency in the white house, will you commit releasing the names of everybody you need as president. >> transparency is a great thing. in merkel is coming over from germany, if she's looking to
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have a quiet meeting, i am not looking to go wild. i want people to like trump. i do think having to do with campaign financing, everything should be released and opened but having to do with that, i want to make a country coming to the white house feel comfortable as far as people coming in from our country like business people 100%. >> president obama trying to put a ban on the lobby administration. >> well, that's a good idea. >> the lobbiest and the special interest and the donors. >> i would certainly have a ban. you cannot put a lifetime ban but you can certainly make it three or four years. >> there is a trending retweet of yours. it was a mossilina's quote.
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>> it is a famous quote that you retweeted i. did you like the quote? >> it is okay -- it is a good quote and an interesting quote and i know it and i saw it. i know who said it but what difference does it make whether it is him or somebody else? >> do you want to be associated with a facsist. >> no, i want to be associated with interesting quotes. >> i guess, why won't you go on stage and ratchet it back. >> calling mexicans immigrants and rapists. you are reaping what you sew here. you use such decisive rhetoric.
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do you have any regrets? >> people are second and tire of this country being run by incompetent people and don't know what they are doing on trade deals and jobs are being ripped out and ripped out and on isis we cannot beat isis on military and it is not being taken care of. our vets are being treated horrible bli ay and people are t that. i am just the miss wilhelmsesse. twelve years the workers in the country have not had a pay increase. >> you will not call for ratcheting back the rhetoric? >> well, i have not said anything, i am just expressing my opinion. what have i said is wrong? >> i have big tax return, i am sure you have seen the picture of the returns from the floor up to here. it is complex. >> do you think you can do it
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before the election? >> i hope so. >> do you pledge to do it before the election? >> sure. if the audit is finished, i will do it. i given my financial. it is worth more than $10 billion and tremendous cash flow. you don't learn much from tax returns, i cannot do it until i am finished with the audit. >> back with the panel, two words, bully. there is no doubt that donald trump is going to redefine this. >> i think he's going to still do rallies. i think he's going to go out there when he decides to push to. he's going to go out there and get tens and thousands of people to come. look at all this. >> i think what donald trump is sort of about and you can whether it is the profile have been abiliout him over the year and written about him. it is the aresentment.
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he loves the crowds. that's the feeling of respect that's been missing in his life. yeah, he's going to be out on the road as was pitched to john kasich reportedly. he's going to make america great again. what ever gets the applause is what donald trump is going to doch do. that's the only way to prick an unpredictableable president. >> he said in the first interview, i have not interviewed him as much as chuck but i have done him a lot and katy talks to him a lot. >> he used to go to the marvel colegiant. i don't know if there is any patch to it. it is awfully dog gone sfwr
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interesting. >> everyday, he wakes up early, he consumes television and he's reading stories in the news and about himself as a marker and he's going through it and he's on his cell phone and looking through twitter. this is someone who's constantly engaged. some would say better and others would say for worse. >> one of the things we have to guard again as you just discussed here and this entertainment factor, there are some real elements -- we are seeing how easily -- [ inaudible ] >> i think if it does not go
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well, there will be black sheep. who can i blame for whatever failure that we are having or whatever discontent that maybe breathing throughout the country. reince priebus maybe uncomfortable. i would like to michael flynn and maybe he's able to maintain that. there is so much discontent about him. i think that -- nobody is safe in a trump's white house or administration. >> except the kids. >> and jerryd. >> i don't even know. >> wow. >> when donald trump needs your loyalty, he will cultivates your loyalty but when he does not need you, he will cast you aside and we saw it with rudy giuliani and newt gingrich and they defended him when nobody would
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and they are not mayjor players at all. >> you have the family and you have steven bannon and the populous and mainstream and the most important thing i have learned covering trump is that there is always a direct line, instead of having an isolated presidency, i would expect seeing a president taking adv e advices from people outside of the administration. >> you can have a relationship with trump outside of staff which scared me. >> you can get him directly on twitter. out of the list that robert reeled off. the single most decisive person in that list despite flynn is bannon. as long as donald trump maintains someone like steve bannon that's associated in the sense of white nationals, they see it as their window and door way in the administration. as long as that person is whispering to the president, he
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will never get into the decisive of trump. >> one thing bannon will keep him away from is getting caught in traps of medicare. >> really? >> he invites the non-pattersrt bop gates of our day. >> a tremendous openness to an argument, maybe it is the last person in the room. and i understand your concerns and the press needs to be vigilant. i am optimistic than most people are because i believe that tillerson's selection shows us he's tremendously open to argument. developers do this. i talked to bob corkell this week. >> we'll pause there. when we come back, some of the shining figures and ground bakers? politics and cultures that we lost this year.
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>> as we celebrate this holiday season, we wanted to take a moment to remember those in the world of politics and culture who meant a lot to us and to you, our "meet the press" readers. >> i love the law. i love to think about the law and argue law. >> tonight on washington week in review. >> we must take sides for neutrality helps the oppressor and never the victim. >> this is what the war in vietnam is all about.
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>> this is so beautiful. you can't but look out and get teary eyed almost. when am i going to hate the people in the united states. i don't hate anybody including my enemies. >> my intention is to box and win a clean fight.
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>> back now with the panel for the last end game of the year. obviously predictions are not the greatest idea of 2016, but the first 100 days of headline. >> conflicts of interest. it is still going to be the big headline, donald trump and his children's business conflicts and how that impacts him and his policies, domestic and foreign. >> immigration overhaul brought huge bipartisan support. >> trump provokes iran. >> security experts. >> here's one thing i know. it will be a very busy first 100 days and perhaps four years. i want to not just thank the panelis
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panelists, but it has been quite a year on that front, but what about what's happening in the democratic party. what is their headline? >> they will go with more of a mainstream pick and maybe tom perez and we will see an ongoing civil war. is this going to be the party of bernie sanders or progressives and tim ryan and rust belt issues. >> who is the democratic party and they have to find someone to rally behind. is it bernie sanders or a new face we haven't yet seen? >> i don't think it can be bernie sanders because he is not a democrat. donald trump is not really a republican. he didn't join the party and it will be difficult for him to exert leadership. much of the party will exert that. they are cram belling for a leader and identity. they do not to be well equipped.
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they need to get it together very quickly. >>. >> joe biten hits the gym. does he be party of these discussions? >> for what we are hearing, president obama will not be able to ride off into the sunset. he wants to coach young leaders to develop new letters. he will be baktive. they have to stick together until they find the heir, apparent. i would like to wish everyone a merry christmas, happy hanukkah and happy holidays. we leave you with moments from first ladies and the way that many of them celebrated christmas at the white house. we hope you enjoy it.
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>> even for inmates serving hard time, love can be a strong motivator. >> who is going to marry you? >> i don't know. maybe one person out there. >> in prison, reaching out to others can be a dicy proposition. >> this other dude had other intentions as far as to force himself on me. >> i was spending way too much in the time with the new female staff. >> some people don't know

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