hour of "msnbc live." i'm tamron, right now on msnbc, "andrea mitchell reports." >> thank you, tamron hall. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," homeland. the president heading to the homeland security department next hour to sign an executive order launching what could turn into an $8 billion wall along the border, with no commitment yet from mexico to pay for it. >> walls can be easily breached but i believe that through the use of drones, through the use of towers that we are building on the arizona/sonora border are effective. we can secure our border but it isn't just with "building a wall." >> mr. trump also planning to restrict refugees mostly muslim from targeted countries. next up, reopening the debate on torture and prisons. false claims, trump calling for an investigation on widespread voter fraud. zblts hee zblts. >> it's a concern he has about

voter fraud. he believes what he believes based on the information provided. >> battle supreme, the president teasing a major announcement next thursday on his choice for the supreme court. >> we have outstanding candidates answer we will pick a truly great supreme court justice. >> good day everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. busy day as donald trump prepares to unleash a series of executive orders on homeland security fulfilling some of the president's most noteworthy and controversial campaign promises, building that wall, limiting refugees from some muslim countries, keeping guantanamo open and reopening interrogation techniques congress banled in a senate vote 78-21 nearly two years ago. the president will head to the department of homeland security just next door to us next hour. joining know nbc white house

correspondent kristen welker and gadi schwartz. kristen, go through some of the executive orders. >> reporter: it's striking andrea, this is a major reversal on some of the obama administration's past executive orders and it is to some extent a fulfillment of some of his most controversial campaign promises. first to the wall. we are expecting according to a senior administration official president trump to sign an executive order that would call for redirecting federal funds to start building the wall along the mexican border. more than $6 million per mile to build the wall. he'd need congressional approval to get the additional appropriations. he's always said that mexico is going to pay for the wall. senior officials insist that's still going to happen but andrea, there's no doubt he's asking american taxpayers to foot the bill on the front end,

and mexico insists it's not going to pay for the call. this comes weeks before the president of mexico is set to have a bilateral meeting with president trump here at the white house. so that is the first thing. you mentioned a number of other executive actions that he's prepared to take and can he working on in the work so we understand's going to move forward with extreme vetting. countries like yemen and syria, iran and iraq. that is going to be hugely controversial and then nbc news has obtained in order that would effectively direct agencies to review those so-called black sites, those foreign sites to hold detainees and some of them included torture. this was outlawed under president obama, so this would be a major reversal on an obama policy if that were to take

place. >> thanks so much, and gatti schwartz you're near a fence and there's a distinction between a fence and the wall that donald trump is proposing. >> reporter: that's right, and as kristen was describing it comes down to cost. this fence is about $6.5 million a mile, just like kristen was saying. wall would be considerably higher, a little bit of inf infrastructure that has to go in. we're right here, right next to the border, we've been talking to people who have been coming to this bus stop getting their reaction to the news today that donald trump will be signing an executive order that has to do with the wall. lot of mexicans on this side have been expressing their concerns. first of all, a lot of them do not take this fence very seriously. one man told us people can get

over it in 15 seconds. this is a small part of 700 miles of secure fence along the u.s./mexico border but the u.s./mexico border is about 2,000 miles so there is still quite a considerable amount of that border that right now is unprotected by a fence but again, donald trump does not want a fence. he wants a wall and wants mexico to pay for it, another concern for mexicans who have stayed in mexico. why should they have to pay for this wall when they have not come over to the united states, they have not immigrated to the united states, and when we ask them about their president, enrique peno nieto scheduled to meet with donald trump on the 31st and his comments how mexico will not pay for the wall, they said they have to wait and see because they don't trust them. >> alan gomez, the net migration from mexico has changed dramatically. it's basically zero people

coming in are from poorer countries passing through mexico. nafta has had a big increase in its own standard of living partly as a result of oil and other resources that mexico has, and they've become better off, we have fewer people trying to come in illegally from mexico, per se. >> exactly. if we'd have been talking about a wall ten years ago when the number of undocumented immigrants coming across was in the millions, then the argument would be a little bit different but right now there's some studies especially from the pew research center that find more mexicans are going back to mexico than are coming to the united states. there's been some spikes when it comes to especially children who have been coming from central american countries like guatemala, honduras, el value ka for, seeing violence so it's difficult for the u.s. to get a handle on and figure out how to handle those kids. couple years ago we saw that peak and that brought the immigration debate back into the

headlines. overall the number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been flat for about seven, eight years, ever since the end of the recession, and so it's an interesting time to be building this wall, but obviously donald trump tapped into something in the united states that enough people wanted that to happen. >> the new refugee policy, this is focused on syria and other countries when the muslim ban began in december 2015 and evolved over the course of the campaign to be supreme, extreme vetting from targeted countries. where do wetand with that, alan, what he is about to announce today? >> i think it's really interesting that he started calling it a muslim ban but as time wore on he started changing it to saying let's vet people from places that foster terrorism that are havens for terrorism. so now these seven countries that we're talking about, we've been hearing about so far, iran, sudan and syria are on the

department list of state sponsors of terrorism, the other four designated being terrorist safe havens so there's going to be legal challenges and advocacy groups are promising to do that, saying that his real thrust here is to go after muslims, but they'ring will very careful about which countries they select so they can draw the direct line to terrorism, so that they have a national security defense and end up holding it. >> kristen the whole debate over refugees from syria, the state department pointed out the united states takes a little over 12,000 syrian refugees after they've been vetted for at least two years by the u.n. and they're mostly children and women. >> reporter: this is the most vigorous vetting process in the world, administration officials from the obama administration will argue, andrea, when we first started having this debate, and i think the key is there is that two-year process that you talk about, it's a very long, very vigorous intruive and invasive process.

the counter argument to banning refugees, first this goes against the american values to ban refugees and secondly, that again, this is perhaps one of the safest ways to ensure people are coming into our country, but this is obviously one of president trump's key campaign promises and it speaks to this point, when you spoke to a lot of trump voters out on the campaign trail, a lot of them said he's not going to follow through with that promise building a wall, banning muslims. he's going to create jobs. that was what they heard from him on the campaign trail and what we are seeing he is, in fact, moving to follow through with a number of those campaign promises that he made on the campaign trail. andrea? >> kristen welker has a busy day covering the white house today. >> reporter: indeed. >> and thanks to gadi schwartz and alan gomez. this morning president trump promised white house backing that millions of undocumented

immigrants voting. "i will be asking for a major investigation into voter fraud including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and those even who are registered to vote who are dead." ari melbourne joins me now. you may be responsible for this all caps tweet you gave your reality check on the "today" show followed emphatically by the donald trump tweet. it's your fault. let's go through your fact check, this goes back to sean spicer's referring to the pew study and the author of that, david becker says it's been miscast. >> president kennedy said success has a thousand fathers, whether this was a successful fact check or not we ran through the facts and landed how there

was no investigation and donald trump tweeted this about the investigation on the facts so folks know it and can judge for themselves when you look at the balance lots cast, 138 million, 138.8 million four cases in-person voter fraud and we're not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by president trump on the study. it was a 2012 study and only about records, about voter registration and the author of it has said that he can confirm the report that he wrote made no findings about voter fraud. so that briefly runs through the facts we have at our disposal. why that's important is because the tweet you just showed, andrea, the breaking news here this morning is an attempt by donald trump to cite the fact that there are people on voting role s who shouldn't vote and a

location a massive criminal voter fraud, criminal activity that he was talking about. there isn't evidence for that. there is evidence web people die the first phone call families make is not to the elections board, why some registration roles aren't always accurate. it does not mean there was any fraud. >> elijah cummings reacted to the donald trump reaction on "morning joe" he launched his investigation into the overnight community. being minority he has less leverage but tried to launch an investigation into donald trump's claims. so they are launching a counter investigation. if you look at how many state houses and state legislatures are republican they are predominantly republican the conclusions of the secretaries of state around the country. >> they are and that's why this is a situation where the trump administration speaking on

behalf of the united states government, not an a campaign, they're on a political factual island and on an investigative island, because if this were pursued with any rigor, all the experts and local officials including republicans that we've spoken with say this would turn up nothing. so does donald trump's tweets now that he's president reflect an actual plan to do something, because it calls for a government investigation or is it itself another misdirection on top of what are false claims. the only other point i'll make it is perfectly routine as you know for the government to review voting rules. it's been done several times. we can put it up on the screen in a bipartisan fashion after the 2000 election, there was a commission, president obama had a bipartisan commission which had people from the romney and obama campaigns and all sorts of things that could be done and modernized. if that's the direction this goes that would be routine.

>> the reason why this is important is people are concerned voting fraud, unsubstantiated and well documented it didn't take place is really the predicate for another round of voter suppression for i.d. cards, for other things like the texas i.d. cards that have been adjudicated and now the justice department as of last friday is stepping back at least asking for a continuance on the hearing that was to start yesterday on that highly controversial texas i.d. law. >> that's a political debate that occurs because the supreme court has upheld certain types of voter i.d. laws although as you mentioned some struck down in the appeals courts. it is certainly fair to say that states have the power to govern voter i.d. in some way, and there's a political debate over how to do that. that is completely separate from whether government resources or

the authority of the federal government is being misused to suggest falsehoods, things that didn't happen or suggest falsehoods in pursuit of further changes to the law. the federal government like the state government has to oversee free and fair elections. the concern what donald trump tweeted this morning and sean spicer said yesterday underlimis some of the nonpartisan authority we all need to have faith in the elections. this is serious business. >> thanks to you, ari,e'll be talking to ashley parker "the washington post" reporter reporting on the nexus between, among other things donald trump's apparent television viewing in the morning and the tweets that then follow. we are all on guard. thank you. >> thank you, appreciate it. coming up, the president's next moves that could lift the ban on cia black site prisons overseas. jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon joining me next on "andrea mitchell reports." per roll

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"the washington post" obtained a four-page draft to open cia black sites, this could potentially restart an interrogation program president obama dismantled his first week in office. senator john mccain reacted this morning on "morning joe." >> executive hour is circumscribed by the law we passed prohibiting the use of torture even though the army field manual can be reviewed it does not allow to return to the use of torture including waterboarding and i am confident the vote was 78-21 in the united

states senate and it specific country prohibits it. >> joining me is jeremy bash. thank you very much. >> hey andrea. >> we were talking about ways to get around it. the senate was clear for general mattis and congressman pompeo for cia that they want to hold firm to the army field manual and ban approved overwhelmingly, bipartisan approval in 2015. in this executive order draft it calls for reviewing the army field manual. if you change the underlying document, do you have to then change, could you get around this without changing the law? because the law just says you have to abide by the army field manual. it is a more expansive document allowing some of the practices that were since banned maybe you don't have to go back to congress. >> congress led by john mccain who of course survived torture

in vietnam would move quickly to squash any effort by the trump administration to reverse the torture ban. my sense from talking to intelligence leaders there is zero appetite to go back to harsh interrogation. we haven't engaged in waterboarding since 2004. we haven't had detainees at black sites since 2006. it was actually president bush, not president obama, president bush who emptied the black sites. we've been able to keep our country safe since the mid 2000s without waterboarding and black sites because we've had an aggressive counterterrorism campaign. that's what the intelligence community wants. >> what about the argument the intelligence community feels their hands are tied behind their backs. he said at langley i'll have your back and unleash you and let you have at it.

>> the intelligence has been committing interrogation and they absolutely do. when the christmas day bomber tried to blow up northwest flight 253 in 2009 over detroit, intelligence agents went to his bedside and interrogated him, got valuable intelligence. they put terrorists from al chi do on ships including the terrorist horasmi, al libi, interrogated the terrorists for days and gotten valuable information. >> what is the difference between having them on a ship at sea and black site in poland, the secret. >> we can bring them to swift justice prosecuting them and putting them in a supermax facility and throw away the key. they've been taken off the battlefield for good. >> the argument about guantanamo. the defense authorization act restricted president obama's ability to move detainees out as quickly as he wanted.

he was unable to fulfill that promise from day one to close guantanamo before he left office. that is about to be reviewed and that guantanamo stay open. state department, secretaries of state republican and democratic argued that guantanamo is a trip wire, it is a signal overseas and it actually inspires more jihadis and hurts our servicepeople. >> i never could figure out whether guantanamo was the excuse terrorists would use. i don't think terrorists need a lot of excuses. they have their own warped rationale for attacking us and i think guantanamo has been a well run facility. that's not the issue. the issue is what do you do with the people? you can't let them rot there forever. we have to decide what their ultimate fate is going to be. smarter policy would have been for congress to allow us to bring some of these individuals into our justice system again put them in a supermax facility

where we have terrorists and spies and other people who have committed treason throw away the key and put them away for life. >> el chapo is going for trial, the blind sheikh, we've proved in lower manhattan the most dense city in the world or certainly in america, we've been able to protect them, safeguard them, not have them escape and try them. >> in many cases send terrorists overseas so our allies can lock them up for good. we don't need to have people on limbo on an island in cuba. >> what about the restrictions on the extreme vetting of people from certain countries. it's clearly aimed at muslims without defining it as muslims. >> i think we need to figure out what is a smart counterterrorism policy. i personally and the intelligence professionals i've been speaking with don't believe it's smart to have a hiring

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let me just say i'm confident we'll get the supreme court nominee confirmed. >> if the nominee is not bipartisan and mainstream we'd keep the seat open. >> the battle over the supreme court begins. president trump tweeting this morning "i will be making my

supreme court pick on thursday of next week." trump will be nominating a replacement for justice antonin scalia who died nearly a year ago. if he could be in for a fight it depend on whether democrats angry president obama's nominee to the court merrick garland never got a hearing but also of course depends whom he nominates, who he nominates. joining me pete williams and tom goldstein, joining us from l.a. pete, we're hearing a couple of names, top three contenders? >> top two, top three. neil gorsuch a judge in denver, 49 years old, federal appeals court in the tenth circuit. they all have the same thing in common, all white males put on the federal appeals courts by george w. bush. secondly thomas hardiman from pittsburgh, he is 51 years old. he is a strong believer in gun

rights, has written several opinions and sort of expanding the definition of the second amendment and so we're told those two have the inside track and then a third person who is mentioned by the people close to the president is william pryor, who is perhaps the most conservative, 54, from alabama, as is jeff sessions, the nominee to be attorney general but he said some pretty strong things about the roe v. wade abortion decision calling it the worst supreme court decision and atrocious decision that legalized murdering young children, so he might be i think the thinking gs right now the toughest sell politically. we hear various things about the president's thinking on this, but it does seem to be between gorsuch and hardiman at this point. >> tom goldstein, would any of these three be considered main stream, could any three overcome let's just call it the schumer objections? >> well democratic senators certainly wouldn't regard any of them as mainstream because

they're not people a democratic president would have nominated. you can fairly say they are within main stream conservatism, particularly gorsuch and hardiman. it's a question of your perspective. testimo democrats are lined up given what happened with president obama's nominee to vehemently oppose oessentially anybody trup sends up to the senate. >> mitch mcconnell again repeated yesterday that there was no precedent, his claim, for what happened, rather plenty of precedent for what happened with merrick garland because it was in the last months of a term. and that there is no precedent, he claims, for blocking a justice in the first year of a new president's term. >> i think no one could argue with the second point you made. there's a huge controversy as you know about the first point. ten months remaining so the democrats are simply furious, a,

about what the republicans did, and b, about to whom they did it. merrick garland is very much widely liked by members of both parties. remember early on there were republicans who spoke in favor of garland as well so they're hopping mad about this. but you know, schumer at one point maybe we could let the court go on at eight justices. >> he said that to rachel maddow. >> and then he pulled it back a little bit. they'll have a big fight. andrea, this is not the big fight. the big fight is the next, if there is another vacancy while donald trump is president because here you're putting a conservative in the place of one of the court's most conservative uss, antonin scalia. the next one if there's another vacancy ruth bader ginsburg, stephen breyer, anthony kennedy, then a super fight. >> it's a question of filibusters and whether or not senate rules can be changed

again to block schumer and company from really having an effective voice to stop this from going down. >> democrats can block the president's nominee but not tomorrow. when democrats had control of the senate elinad the 60 requirement but if they are committed to blocking anybody that president trump sends up or whatever nominee does arrive, republicans are essentially certain to get rid of that rule and since they have a 50-vote majority in the senate the president can pretty much get confirmed almost anybody he wants. >> and what the republican leadership told me, they're going to do whatever it takes to get this nominee confirmed. >> but the battle will become engaged and pete and tom, you're going to be center stage for quite some time. thank you both so much. coming up the head of one of the country's largest latino civic groups joins with her reaction to the president's executive orders today. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪

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and as we've been reporting in about an hour the president will be next door at homeland security, signing an order authorizing the first stage of that wall along the mexico border. joining me now is maria teresa kumar, president and ceo of voto latino and msnbc contributor. so according to apc, he said the plan something going to start right away that taxpayers would pay for this first stage and that he still believes mexico will repay, we've got the mexican president coming january 31st and we've already had reporting from the border from gadi schwartz saying people he's spoken to there the mexicans saying why should we pay for the

wall? >> former mexican ambassador to the united states said you should call it the great wall of america, this no, sir nothing to do with mexico and everything to do with failed policies not adra addressing the real issue. since 2008 we've seen a negative decline of people crossing the border. the issue what do we do with the 11 million undocumented people we find within our border. the president i think is trying to capture another headline, little depth similar to the carrier deal when he promised he won a whole bunch of american jobs. it's just not deep. >> it's not deep but it fulfilling a campaign promise and probably reassuring constituents in terms of those who voted for him, those who believed in that campaign rally which was at every single trump campaign we covered.

what is going to happen with the larger issue that you address of the millions and people here undocumented and the lack of any will for bipartisan congressional action? >> he fulfilled a campaign promise but promised it wouldn't be on the backs of taxpayers. number two he's not promising more american jobs. there's a long line. government contractors that will get wealthier. what do we do with the 11 million it's complicated. we had some movement when it came to providing sop sort of support and safeguarding the daka recipients before the break with a lot of bipartisan support through the bridge act and we hope we are able to safeguard them. the larger question of undocumented we don't know because he hasn't been clear how he'll round up 11 million. it's also against our values. the majority of americans even

those who voted for trump actually believe that we shouldn't be rounding up 11 american undocumented. >> what is the impact of him referring to "illegals" and millions as many as 3 million or 3 to 5 million votes by illegals fraudulently. it's been discredited and disclaimed. he says he'll investigate it. what is the reaction in the community? >> every single american should be concerned with the tone and tenor of donald trump. he is trying to undermine all our constitutions of checks and balances when it comes to the media and the sanctity of the voting booth. we know there is no voter fraud. it does not exist. the fact he went after american latinos under the auspices of mexicans all the way down not appointing a latino in his

cabinet demonstrates he want to create a minority and divisiveness and othering the american latino community even though we're the second largest group of americans and we know in 2020 we're going to be so much stronger. of the 10 million young people that became eligible to vote this year, million of them were yuck people of color. it's a changing demographic. he's really talking about a constituency of americans that may not be his base. >> thank you so much for the perspective. coming up inside the west wing, a lock behind the scenes at the first few days of the donald trump white house, next on "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us. once upon a time

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gun violence in chicago was mimicked in a tweet. this morning a "today" show segment debunking widespread claims in november followed by a tweet from the president calling for investigations. joining us is "washington post" ashley parker. i guess you can't get him off either twitter or off television. not sure you'd want to but it does seem to be interacting. >> this is the way not only is it the way that donald trump communicates. the world and with the public but also the way he receives a lot of his information. you'll remember curing the campaign sometimes if aides wanted to get his attention instead of talking to him directly they go on tv to make their point. in that way donald trump would pick it up.

screen is often the most effective way to get a message to him or him to get a message out. >> you were reporting in "the washington post" about conflicts already inside the white house between different factions which resolved around some of the briefings, sean spicer's briefings, the saturday statement before his first briefing. >> donald trump took his management style from the campaign trail and brought it to the white house. he does have the competing power centers and factions who in solid yological ways have different views and different beliefs and we, the biggest way we saw that spill into the public what happened with sean spicer he came out and gave this briefing he was forced sort of by the president who was very unhappy about these images of his sparse crowds at the inaugural to defend him and deliver a bunch of mistruths and fabrications and lies and then of course the president was

unhappy with that delivery, we saw sean try to recover and do a redo on monday where he did a better job in delivery and in physical appearance something trump cares about. >> clearly cares about. we should put this in context. i covered the reagan white house and the clinton white house and they had rocky starts and reagan, there was by one person's account just this week explaining to me when he first went into the roosevelt room for his first meeting and asked very aggressively by the woman setting out the placecards, are you from baker or meese, were you from the jim baker or ed meese camp. he said i represent president reagan. there were real divisions there and from bill clinton's white house first couple of weeks were tough indeed. this is not unprecedented. >> no. it's not unprecedented at all.

one of the questions talking to trump aides but for the fact trump himself keeps stepping on his message he's not having in theory a bad first week. he's doing a lot of the things at los symbolically and messaging wise that his base wanted him to do on trade, today on immigration, on some of the environmental regulations in the pipelines. he's had a jobs, jobs, jobs message which is why the american people elected him but nobody can remember that because we've been caught up with did his press secretary lie, why did he say this thing about massive voter fabrication and fraud. he's stepping on what otherwise could be a good opening week. >> one thing hard to get at the gag order on scientists at epa, usda, the agricultural component and where else in the government. sthl unusual having a 30-day ban on any kind of publication from

the scientific cohort of the u.s. government or is this something different than what we've seen before. >> best i can tell and i have not reported on this issue extensively, but yes this is a bit unusual, this is typically not something a new president would come in and do in their first several days in office and the real effect it has the country is divided. donald trump won the election but not the popular vote. people were skittish especially in agencies and this sort of has an even further chilling effect in what was already going to be a pretty tough task for the new president to unite the country and unite a lot of the agencies who he is now responsible for. >> ashley parker great to see you from the republican today thanks so much. >> thank you. coming up next the first indian american woman elected to the house, an immigrant herself reacting to the president's impending executive orders on homeland security and

immigration. first president trump in his first interview with "abc today." >> will american taxpayers pay for the wall? >> ultimately it will come out of what's happening with mexico. we're going to be starting those negotiations relatively soon and we will be in a form reimbursed by mexico. >> so they'll pay us back. >> absolutely 100%.

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as an immigrant myself i understand the sacrifices and hardships that immigrants experience. i heard from children, mr. speaker, afraid to go to school out of fear that their parents will be taken away while they are at school. i heard from people whose lives are still in limbo because they have no idea what's going to happen next. >> that was democratic washington congresswoman the first indian-american woman to be elected to the house addressing fears and uncertainty many immigrants are facing under the new administration.

the congresswoman joins me now. >> thank you, andrea, pleasure. >> we haven't seen the actual wording. we've seen a lot and reported a lot as to what we anticipate hearing from the president today. what is your response? >> i think unfortunately donald trump is carrying through on divisive smoke and mirrors campaign promises. he won the election on the back of scapegoating immigrants and i had hoped transitioning to president he would get to work finding a solution for a more complexed and nuanced immigration system which everybody across the country agrees needs to be fixed and there was a bipartisan solution in the senate, 68 bipartisan votes a couple years ago. we need donald trump to focus on those kinds of solutions and not these things that he is going to be putting out an executive order today. >> your concerns also about the

steps against people largely muslim from certain countries which seem to be getting around the broader muslim ban which would be unconstitutional but accomplishing the same purpose and targeting muslim refugees, largely from places like syria and mostly women and children. >> that's right. if you remember back after 9/11 we had the special registration program and that, too, 26 countries, 25 of them were muslim countries and that's how they were able to sort of get around that idea somehow it's a religious ban. we have to be clear this would be the first time that we are instituting a ban of this measure based on religious grounds and that's really unacceptable and it's not only that. it's the refugee executive order which haults refugees at a time of tremendous global instability, tremendous tragedy

around the country and cuts refugee admissions in half at a time again where we as one of the most industrialized countries in the world need to play out our responsibility to the rest of the world including to people who are fleeing wartorn countries, mothers, children, families, that's the majority of refugees in this country. >> is there anything you think like-minded members can do, mostly democrats but there are some republicans who agree with you. >> that's right. refugee resettlement in particular has been an area of tremendous pirbipartisan suppor for many decades. i hope we step up in a bipartisan way address the fact that we have a responsibility to refugees, to asylees along the border. we heard president trump will stop asylum seekers at the sornt border and also i believe that if he wants to focus on jobs and if he wants to focus on the economy there is no question

passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill would boost our economy and provide jobs and bring $1.5 billion into the economy over the next ten years. we have a lot of opportunity to find common glouround on the iss immigration. these actions do not give me hope on the direction he's heading but he has a chance to move forward on an issue that does have tremendous support from both sides of the aisle so we are workingrd has to garner that support to make sure people understand that this is about democratic values, it's about who america is as a country from a person perspective, as an immigrant to this country it says a lot to those of us who have come here believing america stands for certain values and i hope we continue to uphold those. >> great to meet you. thanks for coming on the show, and look forward to continuing this conversation. >> thank you so much, dan

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