announced two new executive orders. this dealing with immigration, one on the wall wichb a signature campaign promise and the other dealing with sanctuary cities. more executive orders probable the rest of this week. that is going to do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki here in new york and mtp daily starts right now. if it's wednesday, a tale of two president trumps is on full display. tonight, the two donald trumps. the one who's keeping his promises, and the one who's vanity is getting in the way of his message. plus the wall. president trump takes the first step to making good on his biggest campaign promise. >> a nation without borders is not a nation. beginning today, the united states of america gets back control of it's borders. and eroding climb change. is the administration working to

freeze out u.s. climate science? this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to mtp daily and one thing we don't do well here is we don't make the world turn with a smile, but we'll do our best. welcome to a tale of two trumps. on day six, the focus of this administration, appears to be centered around two things. trump's agenda, and trump's vanity. what does not appear to be trump and center on the white house agenda right now is any subtantive attempt to unite a badly divided country. folks the president of the united states is moving ahead with plans to fulfill campaign promises he made to his base. to build a wall along the southern border. to strip federal funds from so-called sanctuary cities. he's threatening to send the feds to chicago to fight crime there. and he may temporarily limit immigration from certain muslim

majority countries. those are the headlines today from the presidential agenda. then there's also this separate and sometimes bizarre kperds of presidential vanity. president trump today called for a major investigation into voter fraud. without evidence, in an election that he won. why? yesterday republicans, democrats, and secretaries of state rejected trump's quote belief that there wasidespread vote fraud which trump argues cost him the popular vote. trump's own legal team wrote this weeks ago. quote, all available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake. they of course submitted that during the whole jill stein recounts business. yesterday, white house press secretary spooirs dismissed the suggestion that trump would ask for a major investigation in a voter fraud. then trump tweeted this this morning i will be asking for a

major investigation into voter fraud, including those registered to vote in it two states. those who are illegal and those even registered to vote who are dead. and many for a long time. depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures. well here's what spoois said today about this issue including some of his response to a question about the trump campaign lawyers findings that there was no widespread fraud. >> i think there's a lot of states that we didn't compete in where that's not necessarily the case. you look at california and new york, i'm not sure that those statements -- we didn't look at those two in particular. i think we have to understand where the problem exists, how deep it goes, and then suggest some remedies to it, but right now to prejudge the process would sort of get in front of the whole need to have it. >> what spooiser seems to be saying is there's no problem withhe ss trump won, but states that clinton won are the ones that might be suspect. yes? no? when the president of the united

states calls for a major investigation, people usually listen. hearts stop. what do you do when all the evidence contradicts the need for an investigation or is this investigation more of a political exercise to rattle republicans on the issue of voter id? joined by arizona secretary of state michelle reagan who's a republican and connecticut secretary of state denise meryl who is the the president of the national association of secretaries of state. secretary of state reagan, let me start with you in arizona, there is a concern that somehow folks who are not citizens somehow ended up voting. can you explain how arizona's procedure works that would prevent something like that from happening? >> absolutely. it's a great question. arizona's voter registration system is pretty cutting edge in the fact that every time we're registering somebody to vote, we're bouncing it against motor vehicle division to see what the citizenship status is.

we're pretty confident in arizona that we've got a wonderful system. in fact, i believe there's other states that are trying to copy it right now. >> and let me -- denise, let me go to you on this in connecticut, same question to you, what is your system do in connecticut that would prevent somebody who's not a citizen from you being able -- how to you catch those folks? >> well, it sounds like we have a similar system to that in arizona as do many states. and i should comment that i'm speaking here today as president of a nonpartisan national association. so, you know, my own opinions aside, i would say that our election system in this country is quite secure. and we've been called on -- i've been called on personally a lot in the last six months to defend it against allegations of hacking and rigging and all kinds of things. and i think it stood up pretty well. >> and secretary of state meryl, talk larger here for me on all

the states, what kind of cooperation -- so for instance, how does connecticut cooperate with arizona to double check double rolls? how does it happen from california to new york? walk me through that process a little bit. >> well it is still a state by state system. there are some programs vanl through foundations and others who tried to help us share across state lines, but elections are very local in this country. mostly done at the county level. and they have responsible for checking out to make sure people actually live in that jurisdiction -- but there is no way to entirely cross check the entire national record across the country. there are lots of people registered in more than one state. usually that's handled on election day or just before election day before people reregister. they are asked if they are registered in another state and that's how that's handled. >> secretary of state reagan, i

remember candidate donald trump brought up. he was not a big fan of vote by mail. your state is one that does a lot of early voting, a lot of vote by mail. >> we certainly do. >> walk me through that process. how do you prevent -- how is your system secure so that, you know, joe smith votes, you know, october 30th, and -- >> that's really joe smith. >> exactly. >> and that joe smith shows up on election vote to smith. how does your system stop joe smith from voting twas? >> in arizona a lot of people like to vote by mail. it continues to grow every election. but basically, the voter see signing the outside of the envelope if they choose to vote by mail. and that signature is checked. sometimes several time to make sure that that really is the voter. and if there is any questions, the county officials will actually call the voter and ask them. so we've got that pretty well covered. and in addition, arizona as id

at the polls, voter id at the polls. this isn't bringing in a long-term birth certificate, this is a photo id, couple pieces of mail to prove who you are and that works well. it's a great safeguard. and the system will also tell you, our e poll books will tell someone at the polls if someone's already voted. if they've already sent in a ballot, you know, they're going to be alerted when they're at the polls. >> and secretary of state meryl, explain -- walk me through the process of the transparency aspect after the election. there are a lot of people who have done their own investigating on this. a lot of groups that have done investigating. is it -- how transparent or the voting rolls. >> well, it's very transparent in almost every state. and most of the information both on the voeer rolls and in the statement of vote that's after the election is all published and open to freedom of information rules and everything else. and in fact most of the time

people get a little upset when they realize that they're voting information is so public. but you can hear also that every state has an investigatory arm. if there are allegation or fraud or any activity on election day and election time. any citizen in most states can bring a claim of fraud or misbehavior and that is investigated, usually by a bipartisan commission. that is seeks to take it out of the political arena. and every state gets literally hundreds of complaints on election day and before and after about things they are investigated with great seriousness. so there are lots of processes in place and i think the states, all of them, take very seriously. >> secretary of state reagan, let me ask you specifically, how many complaints -- i get it if you can say 402, about how many in 2016?

and how much investigating did you do and did any of them prove to be fraud? >> we always take any allegation that we hear of fraud seriously. sop sometimes whether it's substantiated or not, the goal is to make sure our system is as free from fraud as possible. so that's something we're always going to look into. we hear things during every election that different -- some of them are rumors. some may be fact, but there aren't a lot of convictions of voter fraud. and that's actually a good thing. i like to point to that, again, that means the system's working. that we have the laws in place to make it as free from fraud as possible. >> biggest -- can you give me the last time secretary of state meryl that there was any sort of significant voter fraud that you can come up with? >> well, it's a widespread belief in the education -- in the election community that voter fraud is extremely rare.

it's frequently rumored and sometimes alleged rarely proven. and i think -- i went back 20 years in connecticut's records to see when this all came up about five or six years ago, to see if there really was any kind of allegations, unproven or proven, and we came up with one proven case in 20 years, and that was without intent. in other words it was a student who thought she had the right to vote and she didn't. that's pretty typical. >> quickly, secretary of state reagan, can you think back in arizona's history? >> probably the most notable was a couple years ago in -- during the 2014 election. we had an individual knowingly vote in two states. of course that was sent over to the attorney general's office. but we find this stuff out by comparing roles with other states that we do collaborate with and so the system works pretty well. it will catch people eventually. >> all right. secretary of states reagan and

meryl, thank you both. apologize for my brain freeze there on names, but, i wanted to appreciate you both coming own and spending time with us. >> i'll see my secretary in d.c. >> oh, very good. we'll see you -- >> big convention coming up. and i'm sure this will be a topic of discussion. >> more people will show up, i promise. all right. let me bring in tonight's panel. thank you very much. hugh hewitt, corinne jean pe area and susan page. susan this -- look, i spent a little bit of time taking the voter fraud allegation seriously. this would be the biggest scanned until american political history. if there were 100 instances. let alone three to five million. >> doesn't mean that there aren't some names of people who died and still on the role. if no one tries to vote -- >> somebody just died. somebody just died, somebody just died. the point is somebody days each second.

>> so it's true that there's some outdated records on the voting -- in the voting lists, but that doesn't mean there's fraud. and we've had a series of investigationings remember in the bush administration, there was a very serious investigation into allegations of voter fraud. and the justice department was rebalked by the political, some of the political people when they couldn't find any. >> hugh, i'm going to shift it -- it feels like we're having this conversation because donald trump doesn't like the fact that he lost the popular vote. >> i thi that's exactly right. >> that's why we're having this conversation. we're not having it because he's worried about voter fraud. >> because he tweeted about it this morning. there was voter fraud in virginia and indiana this year two pretty interesting cases that totalled probably 100 votes, max. it could not have significantly impacted the election. but the legacy of the daily machine or the gas machine. and in missouri is what overlays -- >> it feeds the narrative, but there's like -- it's been 50 or 60 years, man.

>> really, the study will reveal that there was not voter fraud. but why does he put it out there? it satisfies his bases longing. >> corinne, i had somebody subject, i'm not going to say names, but all the news organizations should do like what happened in 2000 and do their own investigation into the three to five million because the country needs to be reassured that the democracy actually is safe and secure. what do you think? >> that will be an interesting -- >> i have to call my boss. give us extra money. >> that seems like a lot of money. i think to donald trump, then doesn't like to be told he doesn't have a mandate. he doesn't like to be told he lost the popular vote and it gets under his skin because he is a narcissist, but he lives in his own universe because what he does is he sits in front of the television and when he doesn't see what he likes, he decides, oh, i'm going to go to twitter and set policies. do we really want that?

that's incredibly dangerous, yet he wants to investigate something that is not a problem that is not an issue and completely avoid the real problem which is russia hacking our elections. >> if he would have ignored this, susan, hugh, corinne, we'd be talking about -- we'd be having a debate about all right, is congress going follow through on the wall. is congress going to do this and this executive order, he's stepping on himself. >> and serious about how he's fulfilling the promises he made during the campaign. officials are supposed to do, right, if you get elected by a promise to build the wall. it's perfectly appropriate for you to follow through on that. that's not what we're talking about. and both the allegations of massive voter fraud and his concern about how many people showed up for his inauguration are things that have grabbed the attention of everybody at the expense of some of the substantive things he's doing. >> it frustrates me because this morning, i was doing my show

live when he tweeted out, then the supreme court nominating someone who will change the future of americans -- >> that, i love this, first about that, and the third one is about basically the one issue, you hugh cared about the most over anybody. >> and i would like to have people watching the 21 judges to see who's making cases and cancelling appearances to find out if it's going to be judge. i don't agree with the characterizations, i agree, don't step on your lead. it's the supreme court. >> stay with it, go with it. >> and then you'd be having a policy debate here. >> yeah. >> and it just seems to be he is undoing himself on this. from that's what we want. we actually want to have a policy debate because we know what he laid out and some of us are very concerned and we want to have that conversation and keep his feet to the fire. i mean, one of the things that donald trump did on inauguration when he took the vow is he promised that he would be president for everyone. and we want to make sure that actually happens. >> now let many be a little bit cynical here.

he doesn't to want have a debate, he doesn't like where the immigration debate might come out? so it's better to have -- it's better to throw in a shiny object and everybody runs to it? what do you make of the theory that there's a little more planning to this than we might give him credit for. >> you know, i think that is sometimes the case. i think there's been times during the campaign where there was a negative story going on and he would do something outrageous and we'd focus on that. this is things on the fact that he didn't win the popular vote or the fact that not as many showed up for inauguration as barack obama's first inauguration. it seems that's an odd object to throw out. >> why do you want to investigate an election you won? >> i know. we've both been to concerts, musician will throw a song that you didn't dppt and it throws the whole concert off. he keeps throwing it off because he had a great week except for a couple lousy tunes. >> and that's everybody's remembering. >> i like that, it's a -- give

me more mek, sorry, keith, no more keith, give me more mic. house speaker paul ryan joins greta at the top of the hour. his relationship with the new president plus plans for obamacare, tax reform, and immigration. we'll have more on trump's actions on immigration. deep dive just ahead. keep it here. degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything.

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welcome back on the day that president trump signed multiple executive orders aimed at at least starting to fulfill several campaign promises, there are new questions about how far the trump administration may be willing to go on some other campaign promises. u.s. officials confirmed to nbc newshe existence of a draft executive order that would study whether to resume allowing the cia to operate black sites which would secretly old terror suspects abroad. essentially avoiding any constitutional concerns, for instance, if you kept them on u.s. soil. it also calls for a review of the interrogation techniques

listed in the army feed manual to examine whether tougher techniques could be effective. interview with abc news this afternoon, president trump believes water bst boarding works but will rely on his cabinet to revive the practice. sean spooiser was asked about this. >> it was not a document, i don't know where it came from, but it is not a white house document -- >> since it was floating around -- >> kristin -- >> black sites and -- >> i'm not going to answer hypotheticals about documents that are floating around. >> congressional sources though tell nbc news defense secretary james mattis and cia director pompeo are telling lawmakers they have nothing to do with the draft order. it would simply ask the -- essentially ask the military to update the army field manual every three years. may not include any new techniques, but that's what this order would do, reviving it so it'd be a consistent look to

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the secretary of homeland security working with myself and my staff will begin immediate construction of a border wall. >> at the department of homeland security today, president trump signed two executive orders. aiming to enact his marquee campaign promise on border security. along with shifting federal funds towards initiating border wall construction, so it's existing funds already appropriated, the executive actions will end catch and release. hire 5,000 border patrol officers, triple the number of i.c.e. agents and create an office supporting victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. in an interview today with abc news, here's what president trumsaid about paying for the

wall. >> the american tax payer will pay for the wall at first. >> all it is is we'll be reimbursed at a later date from whatever transaction we make for mexico. >> when does construction begin? >> as soon as we can. as soon as we can physically do it. >> months? >> i would say in months, yeah. i would say in months. certainly planning starting immediately. >> mexico's president has already said his country will not pay for a border wall. and just this hour, the associated press is reporting that according to a senior government official mexico's president is now considering cancelling his planned trip to washington next week. which was designed to be his first meeting with president trump. there's a lot we still don't know about the administration's immigration policies including the future of the so-called dreamers in the united states. the executive orders today did not deal with deferred action for undocumented children. when it comes to implementing the extreme vetting plan, there are plans in the works, we know that, which may include temporarily limiting immigration from certain muslim majority

country countries. those could come this week but we don't know the timing for sure. this is the president of the latino partnership for conservative principles. he has talked about this for the entire 18 months that we've been on the air doing this daily show. this is an issue you've worked on in the bus administration, so you know this issue well. first, it's interesting today what you did do on immigration and what he didn't do. what's that tell you? >> well, i'm encouraged. i think he -- the fact that he hasn't rescinded the executive order that created doca. he said right after the election that he wanted to deal in a fair way for those who enter here illegally when there were minors. it seems to me he's looking far way. and he said he was going to find

a way to find a solution for those who benefitted from doca. it could be legislation and there's legislation introduced in the senate by senator der by and graham and patrick in, bipartisan support to provide temporary status from those who benefitted it. he gives the green light, it could pass. it would be very ironic that president trump is in his first year in office is able to pass a legalization bill. it would be very ironic, but i think what he's saying, it makes me think -- and not doing, he's making me think that he's actually thinking about that. now, in the meantime, i think it's important to address border security. and fencing along the southern border, strengthening domestic enforcement, sankt cities, those are issues that have to be addressed. >> let me ask you about sankt cities. this term gets thrown out a lot. look, when it comes to

immigration enforcement, the question is how much -- a lot of this, it's up to local law enforcemento enforce and some cities say no, you're not kicking these folks out. i want to explain a little bit what that phrase means. there's a lot of mayors that are going to defy him on this. the line, the list of mayors defying is already lengthy. is this this -- in your estimation, is this a fight that's worth pursuing, not politically, but policy wise for the trump administration? >> absolutely. it has become a political fight for the left. look, there's not a model sanctuary city. trump has been very clear, and if you look at executive order, what he's saying is he wants to prioritize removing those detaining and removing those who have criminal records. so the idea -- what he's talking about when he means sanctuary city, if the local police detains an undocumented immigrant who has a criminal

record, the city should refer that person to federal authorities. >> now what city isn't doing that? >> san francisco. >> is truly not. >> there are several cities that -- >> people with criminal records don't get sent back. >> it's happening. i think san francisco is a perfect example. and so the idea is, again, to encourage, to ensure that -- i mean the way to do it obviously if you don't cooperate, you're not going to get federal grants and resources. but i think it makes sense. and that's the only point when it comes to sanctuary cities. he's not saying not empowering state and local police to go after undocumented immigrants who have no criminal record. he's saying if you run into somebody who's undocumented and has a criminal record, you have to refer them to the federal government so they can be removed. who can be against that? >> you explain it better than he does. >> well -- >> do you think that's an issue? >> i think that it's important for those who advise him, sean

spooiser and others to make that point. that the same thing with the wall. fencing is necessary. you know, now we talk about the wall. there's a campaign, hillary kept saying i want to build bridges, not wall. hillary clinton voted for the secure fence act. >> every single package that has been discussed in the congress has included fencing. fencing works and it's necessary. >> the real rubber meets the road when we start thinking about what's going to happen on doca. >> correct. and if he supports legalization of those the dreamers, that's would be very impress pif. >> we'll see. we'll watch. good see you. >> thank you. still ahead, have you noticed your local newspaper has a lot fewer pages these days? what some smart political reporters are doing to try to make sure your local politician still has someone trying to hold their feet to the fire. plus, you're not going to want to miss. >> dear mr. president, welcome to this introduction video about the netherlands. iness was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count.

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welcome back. lots of folks have been looking for signs about how the new trump administration may or may not address the issue of climate change. the associated press reports trump administration is mandating data and scientific studies from the environmental protection agency undergo review from political staff before they are released to the public. epa official ak knowledges to nbc news that everything is subject to review by qualified personnel. this comes after the ap reported the epa was under a media

blackout. spokesman sean spooicer said hes not restricting from federal agencies. >> they haven't directed by us to do anything. i think what -- from what i understand, is that they've been told within their agencies to adhere to their own policies, but that drktive did not come from here. >> also making some environmental advocates nervous, the centers for disease control postponed a climate that was scheduled for next month. they are considering budget priorities as they look to reschedule. and the climate change section on the official white house website now directs to a blank page that thanks people for their interest in the issue and says stay tuned. the epa tells nbc news the lack of social media posts and press releases is quote a temporary pause. obviously a lot of folks are keeping their eyesen to. in fairness, let's check back in in a couple of weeks and see if this is still the case. more mtp just ahead, but first, it was a historic day for the markets.

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welcome back, we've spoke an lot about the fractured media landscape in the country and while there seems to be more outlets ever here no washington covering national politics. that is not the case at the state, local, and regional

levels. local newspapers and tv affiliates are cutting back on state house reporters and city council reporters and investigative reporting units all over the country. newspapers saw a 35% decline in the number of state house reporters since 2003. when it comes to full-time reporters, 47% of all state house reporters in the country cover that beat full-time. but in recent years, there's been a growing number of non-profit news organizations attempting to fill that void. joining me now two leaders in that landscape, john is the recent founder and editor of the nevada independent, it's a nonprofit news site that launched earlier this month. you know john well here. he's been an nbc news and msnbc political analyst and evan smith nonprofit media organization in austin, texas, which employs the largest state house news bureau in the country. the texas transcribe bun founded in 2009, john just founded his

this year. gentlemen, welcome to you both. john, let me start with you since you yous started. why did you do this? what void got created in nevada -- because you were -- you were a one man band it seemed like for a long time covering nevada politics. what changed that said i have to do this? >> well i got old and i needed help, chuck, what do you think it was? but seriously, you've said those statistics, they're want a to the newspaper in nevada have been cutting back far while. i wanted to cover the legislative session to begin with. that starts in about two weeks. we meet every other year here, test premtive, but it's 120 days. i wanted to get the best possible team i could. i wanted -- i can conceived of this idea of a nonprofit site. thought of three young journalist i wanted to hire to do. my hired two great former ap journalists and another working at the las vegas sun and they're already out there producing a ton of copy.

a phenomenal manager editor. that hasn't been covered here and as we you know, never has our profession been hurting in terms of not being truthful or being seen that way. truth, transparency, depth, i have to tell you quickly that evan very graciously when i first announced this helped me out, gave us great ideas, and yes, we liberally stole from the texas tribune site. >> i was just going to say, this is how i want to introduce evan. you're one of the big 21st century pioneers in this. you took $4 million, you got a budget of $42 million. your basically now the dominant state news organization arguably for state politics in texas. i understand why there's a void in nevada. how did it happen in texas? houston chronicle, austin american statesman, dallas morning news, three quality

newspapers over the last 25 years. what happened? >> yeah, and still quality newspapers and doing everything they can to cover this stuff. the problem is the state has grown. the problems of the state have gotten more complicated, not less. so we need more coverage. there was not enough coverage. in those good papers in 2009. we started in november of '09, chuck, with 17 full-time 11 reporters. today we have 60 full-time, 35 reporters. all we do is public policy and state government. the demand is there, the need is there, we're trying to solve the supply problem in more than seven years in, we're making a real go of it. >> john, why is nonprofit the way to go?

i think i decided to go to the nonprofit route for several reasons. ting sends a message that we're not in this to make money. secondly, i have to be honest, we formed a 001 c 3 because corporations like contributing to 501 cs because they can conduct it. we're following the model here kwhuk. we're being totally transparent, every donor, corporate and otherwise is being disclosed on the site. people conceal our donors. we're going that and we're going to make mistakes. we've said that up front. the other thing chuck, and i think this is really important, and you know this too, to be interactive with our readers to let them have a window into what we're doing. let them criticize us, don't be defensive. and really do it in a different way. >> evan, i guess the other part of this that both you and john had personas.

you need that in order to get this off the ground? >> well, it helps, but i don't think it's a necessary condition. i think great journalists together, along with great business people, the stuff will not pay for itself. the economic model is as important to build as the content. and i want to echo what john said about the importance of nonprofit. we're making our communities and that's the pitch we make. the individuals foundations and corporations. the need exists in all 50 states. for more coverage in the capital community and not every one is going to be the same. the nevada independent is not exactly like the texas transcribe bun. they're doing something similar, but texas is different from

nevada. as california and new york are different. so every place can find their own model for what works best. what is absolutely the same across 50 states is the need for more accountability journalism. >> absolutely. i always say, more local you go, the more corruption you may fine. john, go to the nevada independent, texas tribune, and if you're a working journalists, don't be afraid to help out some good journalism going on in nevada and texas. still ahead, going dutch. why i'm obsessed with an international welcome message to president trump. stay tuned. tfolio, but.. well, what are you doing tomorrow -10am? staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45? uh, compliance training. 6:30? sam's baseball practice. 8:30? tai chi. yeah, so sounds relaxing. alright, 9:53? i usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy. wouldn't it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do? yeah.

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if you can't afford your medication, astra zeneca may be able to help. tonight, i'm obsessed with a really great piece of political sati satire. a dutch tv show put together a fake tourism video to introduce president trump to the netherlands. here's just a piece of it. >> dear mr. president, welcome to this introduction video about the netherlands. it's going to be a great video. it's going to be absolutely fantastic. we speak dutch. it's the best language in europe. we've got all the best words, all the other lauages, failed. this is the deck. it's a great, great wall. that we built to protect us from all the water from mexico. nobody builds oceans better than

we do. this ocean, it is so big, you can even see it from the moon. and we made the mexicans pay for it. it's true. we also have a disabled politician for you to make fun of. people tell us very important people, they tell us we've got the best tax evasion system dad ever created. it's just unbelievable. you should tell your sons to put all your -- sorry, their businesses here. we totally understand, it's going to be america first. but can we just say the netherlands second. >> the show posted two versions of the clip online, one has been up for two days, the other for three and combined, they've been watched more than ten million times. we'll be right back. (vo) do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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susan page. hugh, immigration, on one hand it's the cornerstone of his base, it's what electrified trump. what does he have to do and what can he get away with do you think mipolitically? >> executive order is terrific. i've been an advocate for ten years, it's finally going to get built. it makes it possible for him to then go, leave daca in place, expand the sweeping regularization, realign american politics. he promises within 180 days a study on what we need at the border that can be comprehensive and one that we needed for a long time because people talk in generalities about the border and i'm looking finally for some specifics. so i love the exec dutive order and love it sets up liberalization on daca that people do not expect from dronad tru trump. >> karin, you buy that? >> i think w might be headed there. >> we just don't know. my sense is we're probably heading there. look, in regards to the wall, it's ineffective policy. it never has worked. u.s. taxpayers are going to be paying for it and it's just an

awful, awful policy that's just, i don't think it's -- of course, i don't think it's a good idea, but we're paying for it and it's going to be ineffective. >> you know, i think we may see more aggressive deportation policies not just for people who have criminal records, the executive order says that all illegal immigrants would be subject to deportation. obviously you set priorities but if you greatly gin up the services, law enforcement services along those lines, this is not just obama's policy. the question on drkaca, languag has been soft. he's indicated respect for families and that sort of thing and he didn't include -- with the people who brought him to the -- >> by the way -- >> go ahead. >> the relationship with the mexico president. what is that going to look like if he keeps pushing this they're

going to mpay for it? >> it's different than that. politically i don't think he can come. politics is all local. the mexican president can't look like he's hat in hand to the guy that many mexican residents belief i believe is insulting him. he needs mexico's cooperation if he wants to renegotiate nafta. >> i've crossed that border many, many times. a lot of cross-border traffic. billions of dollars depends on a great relationship from both sides. rex tillerson when confirmed will have to be down there in a hurry. >> imagine the secretary of state has to spend a lot of time dealing with mexico, usually that isn't high priority because you don't need it. >> i go back to the famous words of president obama to eric cantor, we won, you love, on the fence. the fence was his key signature deal. he has to build it and he's going to build it. >> we know how he's going to make mexico pay for it. figure out what aid we're giving to mexico and going to be the

tool he's going to use -- >> i have to say, though, there's a big, a chunk of people, karine in mexico who feel as if they're deported from north america. this is a political conversation that's happening down there. they feel like oh my god, you're going to rip nafta apart, now, i mean, this is going to cause a lot of turmoil in the mexico/america relations. >> that's exactly right. it caused a lot of turmoil over the last several months since donald trump brought this in. it was the hallmark of his campaign. this is the problem he's going to have, it's hike hlikehikelik you going to have a relationship with mexico when you continue to push wall and say mexico is paying for it when taxpayers are? >> sort-term policy, he has to get the wall built. anyway, thank you, guys. great conversation. after the break, hats off to a tv legend. stay tuned.

finally tonight, if you've been anywhere near a tv or radio or smartphone today, you haven't missed it. we lost the woman who was arguably one of the two or three most beloved television actresses of our time. mary tyler moore died today from pneumonia at the age of 80. she was a star in two of the best sitcoms in television histo history, she won six of her seven emmy awards. her viewers of the black and white era, mary tyler moore was the savvy and chic wife on the dick van dike show, broke the mold of the yes, dear wife, that had been a staple to tv sitcoms. >> rob, wasn't that exciting?

>> it was embarrassing. >> oh, rob, did you hear what she said about me? behind every great man -- >> is a woman with a big mouth. >> also may have well been the first tv comedy in which it was occasionally obvious that the married couple were actually sexually attracted to each other, god forbid. then in the '70s she broke another mold on the "mary tyler moore" show, mary richards an independent, smart, unmarried working woman, wasn't at all obsessed with getting her mrs degree. the scenes at her workplace, wjm tv in minneapolis are the stuff of tv legend. >> you've got spunk. >> well. >> i hate spunk. >> mr. grant. sorry. of course, she did much more than tv. but tonight we say good-bye especially to laura petri and mary richards ♪ you're going to make it after all ♪

♪ you're going to make it after all ♪ >> now all we're missing is meow. anyway, i'm not going to meow to greta. "for the record with greta" starts right now. greta, it's all yours. >> thank you, check. "for the record," my special one-on-one, and a rapidfire news day from president trump. what does speaker ryan say about president trump's call for major investigation into voter fraud despite a lack of widespread evidence? also trump's controversial border wall promise. speaker ryan speaks out. does he support it? and who does speaker ryan think will pay for it? and they had some tough words for each other before the election. hear what speaker ryan says about working together and how often they talk. good evening. live f