say hello to internet speeds up to 250 mbps. and add phone and tv for only $34.90 more a month. call today. comcast business. built for business. very good afternoon to you here, here a sunday at msnbc. i'm richard lui live in new york. president trump today defending the rollout of his embattled immigration ban and how he'll fund that wall on the u.s./mexico border. >> for the trump administration, judge gorsuch, that rollout went very smoothly, i think. >> yes, it did, yes, it did. >> but the refugee deal not so much. >> i think it was very smooth. had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully. >> you wouldn't do anything differently if you had to do it

over again? >> look -- >> some of your people didn't know what the order was? >> that's not what general kelly said. general kelly, who is now secretary kelly, he said he totally knew, he was aware of it and it was very smooth. it was 109 people. >> have you figured out what kind of a tariff you're going to levy onexico toay for the wall? >> right now, it is very unfavorable. ght now we're losing our jobs to mexico. you look at the plants, look at the massive plants, i have to tell you, i turned it around already. you see that. ford has been phenomenal. they kns lcanceled the plant. >> you intimidated. they're afraid of you. >> no. >> you know these companies. >> they want to do what's right. >> they don't want to do what's right. why didn't they do what's right in the past? they're afraid of you? >> the wrong people spoke to them. they're doing what's right and bringing jobs back to michigan and pennsylvania and ohio and all the places that have lost jobs. >> that was conducted on friday. kelly o'donnell joins me from

west palm beach near president trump's mar-a-lago estate where he's been over the last night. you have reaction, here, from the president to the latest legal developments here. >> reporter: well, the interview clip that he we just watched, that was, of course, taped at the white house friday before president trump came to his home here in florida. and so there have been a lot of events in the intervening hours dealing with his travel ban, first there was the court that had the temporary stay, then the administration went to try to seek an appeal that was denied and so here we are. without television camera to go back to the president used twitter and made a couple of comments today that related to this and doubled down on his criticism of that judge from the seattle area, federal judge. he says, in a tweet, just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. if something happens, blame him, and court system. people pouring in, bad. next tweet follows up saying, i instructed homeland security to check people coming into our

country very carefully in all caps, the courts are making the job very difficult. it is not unusual for presidents to have disagreements with rulings from the bench, what is unusual is the kind of very blunt direct criticism of a specific judge and the courts more broadly which some interpret as undermining a co-equal branch of government and not respecting the structure of the government. mike pence today, appearing on camera and doing interviews, he defended the president's sort of, you know, blunt style in this way saying that the president is frustrated and so is the administration. they believe that the president's first duty is to protect the country and that this executive order was an extension of that. and so that is kind of the dynamic now. the president using twitter to absolutely keep his fight going against this federal judge. richard? >> that's what's new for us if you will with this president is that we get to see things directly because of had his use of tweets throughout the days and nights.

quickly here, yesterday you were telling us about how people gathered at mar-a-lago, has it been quiet today? what have you seen? >> reporter: it has. the protests yesterday were organized, where they put the word out to encourage people to come and they did. today, a quiet day. we have not seen any real significant protests of any kind, there were none planned in the immediate area around the president's residesidence here. >> kelly o'donnell. catch her on nightly news if you want to flip over there for a second or two. thank you so much, kelly, for that. i want to bring in now politico's ozzy paribara on set. you're watching the reaction here. we have seen the president, heard from nbc's kelly o'donnell telling us what -- one or two tweets because there has been half a dozen over the last 24 hours, he is really going after this judge. he's really going after one of the three branches here. does this hurt him in the long run, this approach?

he does have a supreme court nominee to get through. >> right. that's going to put the question on the table of the independent judiciary, the last thing that he wants to do or republican allies want to do is have this debate while trying to confirm someone who in any other circumstance would have saho wo sailed through the process. we have seen him attack another judge in other cases. calling into question a so-called judge when donald trump himself has been in public service for ten minutes is kind of surprising. but his supporters like this. people who have been behind donald trump say the entire process is one that needs to basically get blown up. so attacking a judge that is blocking a president from doing what he wants to do on national security is in line with what his supporters want to see. >> we sit in the news room and go what is this potential endgame here. politically. when you're sitting around what is the answer to that, what are some of the hypotheses. he is pushing this issue.

>> he's pushing this issue. this is in line with how he got the nomination and how he won the election, by saying the process is problematic. voters don't care as much about the process as we in newsrooms like to focus on. his supporters think washington is broken. probably got that idea because of eight years of republican obstruction. they have ten minutes of it under the new administration and they think it is way too much. what donald trump is doing is focusing on a particular judge and putting a person pretty unknown to most of the public and saying why are you blocking me from doing what i want to do, an executive order, this should sail through. he's making people focus on someone who otherwise should not have been part of the conversation. >> we should also note we had some pictures there of the president and the first lady, they're at a gala last night for the red cross and, you know, for him sending out a tweet is very quick, he's very efficient at it as we all know. it may not be as much time as we are attributing to what -- >> trying to get into the head of donald trump is something

that -- >> fascinating. >> more art than science. >> azi, stand by. we'll turn now to the legal fight over the immigration ban. talking about the politics behind it. late last knight, a federal appeals court rejected a request by the justice department to restore the terms of the ban meaning travelers from the seven countries you see here are now able to enter the united states. by midnight tonight, attorneys general in minnesota and washington state will have to submit legal briefs in response to that appeals court decision. the justice department has until monday at 6:00 p.m. eastern to file then its reply. that's what we're looking ahead to. joining us now, mark herring. thank you for being with us, mr. attorney general. you have also taken legal action. you' one of those 16 states that have moved forward and filed a suit here. you joined, again, the condemnation of the immigration order. where does your lawsuit stand right now.

>> well, we were in court on friday in alexandria, in the federal district court, and the judge allowed virginia to join the case. and also ordered the trump administration to come forward with information about all of the virginia residents who might have been affected by this. and we'll be preparing briefs -- we'll be filing briefs in this week and then this friday we'll have a hearing on a preliminary injunction. >> your focus, you're representing students, at least looking at the brief here, why are you focusing on students? >> well, we're really focusing on all virginiaens who may be harmed by this. we have workers at virginia business businesses who may be impacted. so the breadth and scope is really widespread. one of the things that in court

on friday there was a colloquy between the trump administration's lawyer and the judge, and at one point the administration's lawyer said, well, over 100,000 visa holders were -- had their visas canceled at 6:30 on sunday, and you could hear a collective gasp in the courtroom. it is widespread. and these are real people. i had the opportunity to meet george mason university student who we were able to get back on -- last night. i welcomed her back to dulles airport. she is a delightful, accomplished student at george mason. these are the people who are being impacted by it. >> you know, one student that was impacted by it, her name, if i'm pronouncing this properly here, you may know better here, mr. attorney general, ellie

asge, has now decided that potentially not going to study in the united states because of this experience so far. correct me if i'm incorrect here and tell me what your reaction is to that story line. >> well, it is heart breaking. as i mentioned, she is a talented, accomplished young woman, who was fulfilling her dream of getting a college degree here at george mason. she was planning to get her masters degree. and after what happened to her, she said that she was going to get it somewhere else, maybe canada. i think that just shows that even though i'm confident we're going to win this case, and get this ban overturned, there is a lot of damage out there and it is going to take a long time to repair our reputation. but we can also take a lot of hope and pride in america, because we have a justice system that can hold a president in check, when the president crosses constitutional lines and that's something we can all take

hope in. >> if it is against the stereotype of lawyers and, again, i'm not trying to throw any shade toward lawyers as one might say, but it is those volunteers that arrived at airports like dulles that arrived at airports like jfk, arrived at airports like at -- there in dallas-ft. worth, there in dulles they were trying to reach those detained. and by the notes you had some difficulty there in your state, right? and despite the court order that had come down, lawyers being able to reach those who were detained, despite the court order saying you should allow that. >> that's right. i was at dulles airport saturday afternoon and it was chaos, complete chaos. there were lawyers there trying to get information out, a woman grabbed me by the coat and begged and pleaded for help because they had her 5-year-old son. so family members were separated from one another. no information was coming out. and then after the judge issued

a temporary restraining order saturday night, and that included a requirement that lawyers be allowed access to those who were being detained, after that we got reports that they were not being allowed in through saturday night, and into sunday, and so that's why we felt we had to get involved in this case to protect the rights of virginia residents. >> and now that's fixed, right? >> it looks like it is -- because of the intervention from the courts, the chaos has now settled down. people are being able to travel again. this friday we will have our arguments on a motion for preliminary injunction, that will be a really big step. >> mr. attorney general, we'll have to speak with you again after that does happen from virginia. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> all righty. >> backlash over president trump's executive order to scale back wall street regulations.

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and add phone and tv for only $34.90 more a month. call today. comcast business. built for business. this guy is a fraud. this guy ran for president of the united states, sing i, donald trump, i'll take on wall street. these guys are getting away with murder. then he appoints all these billionaires, his major financial adviser comes from goldman sachs, and now he's going to dismantle legislation that protects consumers. >> senator bernie sanders there today ripping president trump over had his executive order friday designed to address the dodd/frank financial reform law aimed at that. vice president mike pence today rejected the idea that the white house is giving wall street a pass. take a listen. >> the reality is that you can talk to small business owners

across this country and since the passage of dodd/frank, we have seen the availability of loans in banks across the country begin to dry up for small businesses, simply the cost of compliance for smaller loans is too heavy in the wake of dodd/frank. that's what we're hearing from main street. >> problems with their -- >> president obama signed the dodd/frank law in 2010 here declaring at the time it created the strongest consumer financial protects in history. but president trump called it a disaster. joining us, one of the architects, barney frank. thank you for taking a break from the game, if you are watching the game. i imagine you probably have a dog in this race, a horse in this race. what has been, you think, the take away from what president trump is wanting to do here? does he want to tweak or does he want to effectively repeal? >> i have to take him at his word, although we have -- that

is dangerous, because he says things and decides he didn't say them and says the opposite. but the rhetoric has been to repeal it and undo it. and there is a kind of bait and switch going on here. in fact, very little in that law restricts lending. there is one provision which does tell banks that they can't make loans that they used to make. those are the loans to very low income people, people without assets, mortgage loans, subprime loans, that were major cause of the disaster. and it is interesting, because on the one hand, the conservative myth is, you liberals, who lended all the money to the poor pple to cause the problem, democrats consistently over a 20-year period tried to restrict the loans over the opposition of people like alan greenspan who said, oh, no, you're interfering with the free market, the wall street journal said said stop interfering with the free market. the law does contain a provision that says you can can't basically lend money to people

where there is very little chance they'll pay it back. beyond that, the major parts of the law don't deal with lending. they deal with trading and derivatives. the fact is that by a series of mistakes made in the end of the last century, beginning of this one, this new brand of financial derivatives, credit default swaps and other forms of highly leveraged finance transagenctio were left unregulated. aig told the bush administration there were $170 billion, billion with a b, in debt on derivatives they couldn't repay. that is what this does. and the notion that the -- one last example, i wish maybe some of those people who goldman sachs sees hired to run things would talk to them more specifically, goldman sachs, because they are not making as much money in the trading of these razzle-dazzle financial instruments created a new

lending arm. goldman sachs is lending money to people that it didn't do before because it has to make up for the losses we imposed on them by cutting back on the irresponsible drierivative trading. >> some are estimating in terms of the credit default swaps in the trillions of dollars potentially. a big, big overhang that so many were worried about. now that we're looking at this executive order, you have said in the past you would make some tweaks to dodd/frank. what are the one or two things you would tweak? >> one is, it does affect small banks. i believe there are problems with some of the smaller banks. that does not mean that loans aren't being made and no evidence whatsoever that loans aren't being made and the economy doing better in america than anywhere else in the world in the developed world shows that. some of the smaller banks are spending too much money and too much time complying with things that we didn't thing should cover them. in 2013, dan tuollo said let's

exempt banks with sates of less than 10 billion from the volcker rule. i am for that. i have been since 2013. there is another provision, we did say in the bill that once you had 50 billion in assets, you would become subject to extra supervision. again, tuollo said that was too low and i agreed with him. we have a situation where some of the smaller banks have been spending too much money on complying. i would point out, i talked to a lot of banks about this, much of the problem that they complain about and the difficulty of making loans does not come from the financial reform bill known as dodd/frank, it comes through the bank secrecy act. they blend it together. separate from what we did, there was a lot of legislation trying to prevent the laundry of money from drug smugglers and terrorists and i hope they're not talking about getting rid of that. i think for some of the smaller

banks, the 10 billion and under banks, we should exempt them from some laws that were never meant to apply to them. that hasn't caused a failure of loans. put more pressure on them. as to the 50 billion, i think the 50 billion is too low and i'm glad to say i said that in 2013 before i went to work with a bank that would be affected by it. but only one bank in the whole country has ever hit the 50 billion, in other words, the fact that we said 50 billion, i believe now should be raised, can't possibly be blamed for costing any loans because it hasn't bitten in yet. it is a future thing that we ought to anticipate. >> you know, as you watch the debate on this, and you so clearly laid out some of the details here, that was really the voice that you had in congress, one of those that stood out on the democratic side. when you look at how democrats right now in the house are dealing with a republican president as well as a republican led congress, it seems to be, you can see the

headlines, combative comes out a lot. what would be your suggestion in terms of leadership for the democratic party so that they can successfully move forward. that's really sort of the question for them. >> well, they are speaking out, people like senator elizabeth warren are doing that, maxine waters, senior democrat in the house, on the committee, sherrod brown, they're speaking out clearly. first of all, make clear that what this law did was -- four things it did, first of all, it put regulation on the financial derivatives. no future aig can get $170 billion in debt and go to the federal reserve as they did under bush and say bail us out. we have severely restrictioned their ability to do it, they can't go so deeply in debt now without having the money there. secondly, we created a consumer bureau, because before that bill was passed, protection of consumers from abuses by banks like wells fargo were in the hands of the bank regulators

whoer whose main concern was the banks. for all of the right wing objections to the consumer agency, i'm sure you'll note, and go look this up, they have not been able to point to a single instance of abusive behavior by that agency. nothing that the agency has done has been in any way impugned. we also, by the way, they talk about bailouts. under george bush, that was the law at the time, the federal reserve stepped in and paid $170 billion of the debt that aig couldn't make. we made that illegal. under the bill, if a large financial institution is so indebted that it can't pay off its debts, the federal government may have to step in and deal with those debts, but the first thing it does is abolish the institution, take it over and wind it down. secondly, any money that has to be paid out to avoid a kind of panic is recovered by assessments on the other large financial institutions. and then as i said, the fourth thing i would mention is we made it illegal the kind of loans that shouldn't have been made.

other loans, there is no restrictions. >> former congressman barney frank from the great state of massachusetts. thank you for stopping by. and good luck on that other thing that is happening on that other network with the game. >> they don't vote me, i'll be kind of calm about it. >> great. thank you. i appreciate it. >> you're welcome. on this super bowl sunday, protests continue in response to president trump's immigration ban. demonstrators have taken to the streets of houston, the site of this year's super bowl. millions across the world are watching at the moment, hoping to send a message to leaders in washington. wait a minute... hey... hold on, i can explain. you better have a good answer... switch to geico and you could save a ton of money on your car insurance. why didn't you say so in the first place? i thought you's was wearing a wire. haha, what?

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thank you for staying with us. i'm richard lui at msnbc headquarters in new york. super bowl li kicking off in houston. this hour with the new england patriots and atlanta falcons facing off for the vince lombardi trophy. along with the big game, some protests. demonstrators in the streets this afternoon to voice their concern over president trump's policies and executive orders. jacob rascon is in houston with more on today's demonstrations. jacob, is it thinning now that

the game is getting rolling here? >> reporter: it is. and we aren't seeing as many protesters as we saw earlier. in fact, the crowd of 400 or 500 people has largely disappeared. they came and they talked about president trump, most upset it seemed about the refugee ban. they also had a host of other issues they wanted to talk about. behind me, you're seeing in fact some of those who are performing during the super bowl who are going in to the entry area. and so we're about to get going here. the protesters as i said have left as have many of the thousands of people who have come to tailgate or to go in and do other things for the game. so we're getting going. and the scene looks different out here, richard. >> it does, jacob. looks like they're very lady gaga-like in terms of those performers if their costumes or outfits are any indication here. jacob rascon for us all day in houston where the super bowl is happening. thank you so much. president trump's new comments on russia, vladimir putin and the u.s. forcing

republican leaders to clarify their positions. here is what the president had to say in his big super bowl day interview. >> do you respect putin? >> i do respect him. >> do you? why? >> i respect a lot of people. that doesn't mean i'll get along with them. he's a leader of his country. i say it is better to get along with russia than not. and if russia helps us in the fight against isis, which is a major fight, and islamic terrorism, all over the world, major fight, that's a good thing. will i get along with him? i have no idea. >> he's a killer, though. putin is a killer. >> a lot of killers. we got a lot of killers. you think our country is so innocent? you think our country is so innocent? >> i don't know of any government leaders that are killers -- >> well, take a look at what we have done too. made a lot of mistakes. i've been against the war in iraq from the beginning. >> mistakes are different than -- >> a lot of mistakes. but a lot of people were killed, so a lot of killers around, believe me.

>> joining me is deena krusheva. you heard what folks have been saying since that piece of the interview came out yesterday this idea of moral equivalency between the united states and its leaders and russia and its leaders. how do you talk about this with your students? >> well, first of all, bill o'reilly should not be calling a leader of a very big country killer. he said he doesn't know other leaders who are killers, that's not the case. we know plenty of leaders who are killers, just russia is obviously always a fair game because of the cold war and so it is okay to be negative towards russia. having said that, when donald trump says we also killers, there is a very big comparison he's making because it may be that the united states sometimes gets involved in other countries that it shouldn't have been involved or actually try to force its politics, which putin

objects to. the united states, the united states doesn't kill journalists or doesn't really support killing or opposition journalists or opposition leaders are not being prosecuted in the united states. certainly not until donald trump now became president. we don't know what's going to happen. this is a big difference. one thing is to influence politics and other countries. another thing is fighting against its own opposition that putin certainly has done. >> want to play a little bit of some interviews that happened today in response to donald trump, president trump's interview with bill o'reilly. first off, from the vice president and the senate majority leader and then your reaction. >> again, i don't accept that it is a moral equivalency. what you have in this president is an absolute determination to re-engage the world. i see it in the telephone calls with world leaders. >> putin is a former kgb agent, he's a thug. i'm not going to critique the

president's every utterance. there is a clear distinction here that all americans understand and i would not have characterized it that way. >> so you have what has been called blunt language, nina. those who do not want to defend, those who do want to defend. what do you believe president trump's endgame is here, with his overtures towards the leader of russia. >> i don't think we can defend that language anyway. regardless of how i feel about mitch mcconnell calling putin a thug, it is a bad politics and bad diplomacy, but once again, having said that, i don't think that donald trump is president of america should compare and say it is okay because we also killers. he's the president of the united states, he provides that moral equivalency, and he actually gives a sign to putin that whatever putin does, trump is going to defend him at any cost because that's what we have seen, whatever putin does or doesn't do, trump always says we need to deal with russia, we

need to be friends with russia and therefore we should forgive them everything. my suspicion, there is many reasons why he would do that, my suspicion is two fold, one, he is, you know, a budding -- president trump is in awe of putin who is an established autocrat all over the wor now. a lot of mini putins in the world running around. another thing is that russia is allegedly -- was allegedly involved in hacking, the democratic party, i'm sure they were equally engaged if they were engaged in hacking. the republican party. and what of donald trump being not a stupid man is somewhat afraid that putin actually has all the information that you and i and everybody else has been looking for. his tax returns, business deals and what not, upsetting putin and trump knows that. if he kills other people or not is a very, very dangerous thing. >> and nina, thank you so much

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mr. trump, thank you for still accepting our refugees. >> say what? >> president obama said america would accept 1200 refugees. your country's compassion will not be forgotten. >> no, no, no, no refugees. america first. australia sucks. your reef is failing. prepare to go to war. >> wait, wait -- >> "saturday night live" poking a lot of fun at president trump and his administration. but this specifically is a call to the australian prime minister this week that did reportedly not go well. this video just coming in to us,

coming out of mar-a-lago, coming out of florida. president trump and the first lady heading off to a super bowl party. he was asked who he's rooting for. he didn't really answer that. he's a supporter of the largest game in america, in the world, one might say, but super bowl party is where they're at this 6:30 hour and like many americans they're going to go out and enjoy it. also, right back here in the united states, there is an immigration ban that he has to think about, potentially as he's watching the game. because it is facing some legal trouble. at least within the last week. a federal court halting the order, the justice department has filed an appeal. vice president pence, voluntary, was confident today they would win in the end. take a listen. >> we're very confident that we're going to prevail. we'll accomplish the stay and we'll win the case on the

merits. but, again, the focus here is on the safety and security of the american people. >> the vice president also defended the immigration ban's execution, resulting in chaos around the world. >> many republicans in congress believe it was done hastily. you have an opportunity to now to do a do-over, why not? >> it was not done hastily. i -- either there may have been some leaders on capitol hill, that were not informed in the usual niceties of washington, d.c., but,look, we live in a dangerous world. the reality is there are people around the globe who have inspired violence here in the homeland. >> joining me now is msnbc political analyst, republican strategist joe watkins. we have democratic strategy, colin o'mara and political senior reporter azi parabar. he doesn't thank the vice president, this was implemented hastily. what data does he have that might be saying that, do you think?

>> i don't know what data he has, but clearly if some of the agencies that were involved had been informed before hand it probably would have made for a much more smooth rollout than the rollout that we saw. clearly, there were people in many countries, i think 100,000 visas were impacted by this. and had it been rolled out better, had those agencies that had to roll it out been better prepared, we may not have had some of the confusion that took place. >> as we look at the implementation, let's take it to today, as the trump administration, as the department of justice waits, we're going to see what happens on monday, and some are saying this doesn't look like it is going to look good for them, what do they do next? >> i think there has been a lot discussed how this is anti-american, doesn't go with our values and discussed about the implementation of it and the -- they have to take a second look at this.

we should have millions of members completely bipartisan, millions of both parties and this was horribly done. regardless of the outcome, didn't include theepartment of justice and the department of state in a meaningful way is crazy and shows how disorganized the current early days of the administration are. >> you know who seems organized, the states attorneys general. i spoke with three today. i spoke with the attorney general from hawaii, attorney general from massachusetts, attorney general from virginia. they're talking to each other. they're coordinating. and for instance out of massachusetts, four moves, four actions in just two weeks. they seem to be readying themselves for a long battle with this administration. >> it is a no brainer. if you're an attorney general, elected on the democratic line, you take action against this. and it is amazing how uncoordinated of a move this was. the trump's own pick for defense secretary is someone who had

spoken out against this exact kind of policy. what position will he be in when he walks into office having to operate under this kind of guidelines. it wasn't just that the white house wasn't talking to congressional leaders out of nicety. they weren't talking to their own administration members. >> and i guess one of the mottos here that we use in life, live and learn, we had another executive order coming out with dodd frank and speaking with barney frank, one of the architects behind it, 10 or 15 minutes ago, do you think they lived and learned based on that executive order? back in the day, when you were with hw and worked with h.w., there was a process in place. this is not the same process it appears to get one's policy objectives done. >> yeah. it is a very -- right now it is still in the early days of this trump white house. and i think they're still feeling their way. i know when i worked in the white house, we had had had a process that informed agencies that really -- buy in before we

went to market with these plans because he wanted people to be on the same page. i think this administration will have to work a little bit harder to get more people on the same page when they roll these -- with the executive order, you're showing what the president thinks on a particular order and he's trying to roll back regulation, trying to keep a campaign promise that he met. but in each case, really helps for an administration to be prepared for the possible pushback and to have agencies and others on your side. >> also, i want to bring it back up to today as we're looking at, you know, various executive orders. to what the president said in an interview, just aired on fox news, it was filmed on friday, but just seeing some of it. and this answer, listen to this, was some detail on his immigration policies with mexico. and we'll play that. >> we have to do something about the cartels. i did talk to him about it. i want to help him with it. i think he's a good man.

we have a very good relationship as you probably know. he seemed very willing to get help from us because he has got a problem -- >> a problem. >> a real problem for us. don't forget those cartels are operating in our country. and they're poisoning the youth of our country. >> at this point, do you consider mexico a corrupt country because this stuff has been going on for decades. >> i love the people. i really like this administration. i think he's a good man. we get along very well. but they have problems controlling aspects of their country. no question about it. and i would say that drugs and the drug cartels number one. >> have you figured out what kind of a tariff you're going to levy on mexico to pay for the wall? >> right now, it is very unfavorable. right now we're losing our jobs to mexico. you look at the plants, look at the massive plants. i turned it around already. you see that. >> colin, how do you put that all together? >> i think the challenge -- >> where are they with mexico?

>> he's conflating five or six different issues. we need to help theexic economy get stronger. a lot of the immigrants we see coming in aren't necessarily coming from mexico, they're coming from central america, even further down. we have to address the underlying economic issues we have here through infrastructure, manufacturing. if you focus on the things that bring us together as americans, to build up the economy, we do two things at once, help the mexicans build their economy to reduce illegal immigration and build up our economy at the same time. the way he's doing it by dividing people is not the way to go about solving the problems he's conflating. >> you heard one issue he's conflating but still relevant. immigration in the united states. how it is relevant to mexico and those in the united states and with the immigration ban added into this. we see the protests coming into the streets. are democrats going to be able to put all of that together. are they ready for this? do they have the right leadership in place. it is the question i ask every

weekend, hoping to hear that you have interesting perspective on that. >> it is not clear if the democrats are prepared for the level of activism that is bubbling up in response to donald trump. there is an argument to be made if you completely oppose every single thing he does, the general public will tune out and just think you're an opposition party. >> fatigue. >> fatigue. it also delegitimizes when you raise the issue and there is a problem. there is a difference between opposing the education nominee because she supports policies that you can't stand and opposing a supreme court nominee who in every other instance would have sailed through a nomination. >> is this the beginning of the presidency of protest, three weekends in his very young presidency here, each and every weekend we have seen historic numbers of folks hitting the streets across the country and for that matter now the world. >> it is a new level of engagement and the question is can that be focused, can that be targeted, turned into something

that people see come election day. it is unclear if democrats have a strategic plan to turn that around and to make use of that energy that is now coming forward. >> unclear or they don't? >> unclear. i'll let colin anser. >> we have to wrap. we can go for a long time. joe's laughing on the other side there. colin, i'll let you off easy on that one. we're not going to go to you on that. thank you very much, colin. azi, thank you so much. joe watkins thank you as well and have a good sunday. >> thank you very much, richard. it is super sunday. the new england patriots on this day and the atlanta falcons in houston facing off in super bowl li. there is boston. there is atlanta. we're going to go live to some of those areas for you and what folks are thinking. they're clapping, they're cheering. and i think there is a couple of full glasses, hiding them from me right now. we'll see who is going to be the next super bowl champ and who president trump is predicting to win that big game. and now, i help people find discounts, like paperless, multi-car, and safe driver,

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i hate to make predictions. >> you have to. >> i hate to do it. i don't know what are the odds. i guess it is pretty even. two great teams. i'll say the patriots will win. >> by how many points? >> by eight points. >> president trump making a super bowl prediction, just a short while ago. the president tweeted this. enjoy the super bowl. and then we continue to make america great again. moments ago, the president arrived at his mar-a-lago estate for a super bowl party. there they are. sara dallof is in atlanta where fans of the falcons are looking for the first ever super bowl victory. got blake mccoy on the other side of this, where they're hoping that tom brady will get a fifth super bowl ring. sara, i'll start with you. what are atlantans telling you?

>> reporter: they are telling me that this is the falcons year. as you know, richard, they are -- the city actually is a bit of an underdog. out of all of their professional sports teams, only one has brought home a championship and that was the braves more than two decades ago. people feel this is the year, the falcons have the mvp, a fantastic offense this year. and fans are just thrilled to see their team playing tonight. >> i like football, i like the falcons. >> this is huge for the city. >> the offense is the best offense in the nfl. >> brings unity, brings everybody together. it is a good time. >> if they do what they did against green bay, they took down aaron rodgers, same thing. >> i think atlanta deserves it. their time to shine. >> feels like the right time, feels like everything has come together. >> and it is not just this room

behind me. city officials also getting in on the excitement, atlanta's mayor signed an order saying that bars can stay open an extra two and a half hours tonight. a lot of people in that crowd behind me feel like they'll spend those two and a half hours celebrating. back to you. >> and eating a lot of wings if you're at a place like taco mac in atlanta, enjoying the game. thank you, sara, great stuff. to blake now. patriots fans, can they outdo those fans that were talking to sara? what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, people are very used to winning here in boston. the patriots have had had a really great run. and tonight has the potential to be history-making for this team because if tom brady as the arterback is able to get his fifth ring tonight, that be with the most super bowl rings for any quarterback in history. this is jocelyn here. you're a big patriots fan. how you feeling about the chances tonight? >> i feel like we're going to kill the falcons tonight. >> reporter: this is paul, another big fan.

deflategate hanging over this season, which the team was accused of cheating, of underinflating footballs to get a better grip. do you feel like tonight is going to be vindication if they're able to win? >> tonight will put that in the past. this is what brings champions -- this is where champions are born, right here. >> reporter: a huge night for tom brady. >> five rings, it is unspeakable he'll be the best of all time. >> reporter: all the fans are out here at the causeway, a restaurant, cheering on this team. i have not seen one falcons fan. this is not the place you want to be if you're a falcons fan tonight. >> the number 12 to your right there, lack of passion, certainly, i can tell. enjoy the game. blake, thank you so much. sara as well. that does it for us this hour at msnbc. stay with us. we have much more in our next hour. stick around. on your medicare part d prescriptions. at walgreens we make it easy for you to seize the day

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around this sunday. i'm richard lui live at msnbc headquarters in new york. president trump defending the rollout of his immigration ban in an interview taped on friday, just played. and he claims in a new tweet that the judge who ordered a freeze on that ban has put the country in peril. kelly o'donnell joins me now with the latest from west palm beach, there with the president, as he's watching the super bowl, super bowl li. kelly, what is the latest? >> reporter: well, good evening, richard. like many americans, president trump is going to enjoy the big game with the first lady melania trump. they're at their golf club where there is a group party going on. it is a mix of work and pleasure at their florida home this weekend. and part of the super bowl attention is that interview you mentioned, which is part of the super bowl package or president always does an interview to the host network of the game. and at the same time, because news events have been moving so quickly, he also used twitter today to update some of his comments.

and it is about that disputed travel restriction for seven countries, tied up in the courts and the president has a lot more to say. today, homecomings and arrivals. >> mommy! >> reporter: relief granted by a federal court and reinforced by welcome signs at international airports. for travelers from seven mostly muslim countries, whose visas were reinstated. but today, president trump doubled down. just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. if something happens, blame him, and court system. people pouring in, bad. the president tweeted that he is using his authority over agencies that screen travelers. i have instructed homeland security to check people coming into our country very carefully. the courts are making the job very difficult. the vice president defended mr. trump's broad side against the courts. >> the judge's actions, making decisions about american foreign poli