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>> it shows the power of the grass roots. >> even if it doesn't work, liz. >> yeah, this will be history the fact the vice president has to be a tiebreaker. it shows the democrats are listening to the grass roots. the furor of her nomination cam from the grass roots, not from the top. it's going to be hurt and the claesest cabinet peacekeeper in history. it does i think we dues her political capitol. there wa a way to end the smo. thanks to you bo. stephanie collins is in this morning. >> what's the song? >> you'll have to go to anyway snapchat. how about that? >> can you do it in an hour. right now on msnbc, president trump is expected to land at centcom headquarters, departing palm beach just moments ago amid
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what some are calling alarming comments defending vladimir putin. >> putin's a kill per. >> there a lot of killers beep got a lot of killers. what, you think our country's so innocent? >> also this hour, the white house is putting up a fight against a federal judge's ruling suspending the president's targeted travel ban. is that fight headed to the sport? we'll talk with washington state attorney johnson bob tergson. from the political ads to the shocking overtime win by patriots, love him or hate him, is tom brady the best ever? we'll take you to boston. >> it's great to put everything on the line and play it all out against a great team. they gave us everything we could
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handle. >> good morning, everyone. i'm stephanie ruhle coming to you live from msnbc headquarters. at this time the president is headed to the centcom. for now travels are from the seven predominantly muslim countries affected are allowed to enter the u.s. after a federal judge put the president's executive order on hold late friday night. that temporary hold was left in place yesterday by a federal appeals court in san francisco, which ordered briefs to be filed today before issuing any further ruling. we have the best reporters covering this story from every angle and we'll spack with the attorney general from washington state and with a lawyer from the aclu who represents immigrant groups.
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i want to begin with kristen welker, live from centcom headquarters in tampa. amid this battling court issue, no surprise a flurry of tweets from plumb. >> no surprise, steph. plumb is digging in on this, despite the backlash. even from and one from this morning after he saw polls showing a majority of americans are opposed to this travel ban. he wrote any anything tipeople want border security and, treem vetting. he reacted from his estate in mar-a-lago, quote, i have instructed people coming in and the opinion of the so-called
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judge that e. the last tweet is getting a lot of attention, concerns even from members of his own party about being critical of a judge. they say it undercuts the separation of the over the weekend, pressed on exactly what o meant. our chuck todd, whether the administration would consider dropping this, tiff order and trying to go through congress, trying to get a piece legislation passed so they wouldn't have to deal with these legal challenges. at this point in time, it doesn't appear that is on the horizon. >> these legal challenges adhering to the separation of power. tell us more about this visit to centcom today. what's going on there? >> he's going to try to put the focus on national security today. he's going to be holding his first major meeting with u.s.
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troops. he's going to get briefed by top defense officials here at the central command headquarters and then he's going to deliver speech. will he weigh in on all of these fop, we been as you know, he does typically weigh in, we'll be listening closely today justice correspondent pete williams joins me live. exactly where does this stand now and how likely is this battle to wind up in supreme court? when you look at twitter and up see donald trump's comments, people want border control. people want, ot but that doesn't
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mean that the, tiff order should stand. zit before the ninth circuit court of appeals out on the west coast pipt a special three-judge panel that what puts judge george w. bush and an obama appointee going tleft and the judges went to the panel, said let's put this on hold. the appeal court said they wanted to hear from the states first. they did that overnight. and at any court of that lookly what whoever doesn't prevail before the court appeal will go to. >> last night they nm big names
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like mad albright, john kerry. they put out an affidavit. they saturday it was ill conceived, poorly implemented, ill explained. >> what impact could this letter have in. >> the question before thes that still pending. the budge honey i'm going to put everything on ice, stop enforcement of the travel ban. the government says we would be armed the most by trillion this trab plan -- the states say we would be armed the most bus it work for service nicis and prop
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dpand a tool. they would say this is basically amend at banning muslims. they say it will undercover efforts by lawsuit to detect potential bad actors. >> pete, thanks so much. we're joined by washington state attorney general bob ferguson. you had a big wind braut gnts the trum station's independent executive order. a federal judge in seattle ruling in husband favor. congratulate, they're. a big -- >> it's frustrating to judges that want to see judges up hold
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the will you. >> who tho. >> okay. so before we'll jump to a conclusion where -- help us understand what exactly the judge ruled. to chuck todd's point poin, no, the flood gating to to be opened? who is going to be piling into the airport today? >> it my responsibility to make sure even the president follows the constitution and the rule of will you. so what happens happened now is sta state. >> so people get an understanding in terms of who would be coming in the country, refugees, with or without the ban, the united states, how many refugees have been p we been letting in over time? it's far different from, let's
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say, our counterpart in europe. >> that's right. i don't have those specific numbers but we have, for example, 21,000 people in my state who were born in the seven countries that were impacted. we have students who are unable to travel. it's had a huge impact on businesses, universities and colleges here in my state and on individuals. that's why i brought the legal action. in a courtroom it's not the loudest voice that prevails. it's the constitution. >> you argued, you said a social issue. which argument do you believe m a greater impact? >> it's hard to know really what from my perspective, i can't put myself in judge's mind. what i will say is that the broad, adverse impacts tho thousands in my fate, just
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fueled support across the country as well. >> the president might say those companies are just caring about their own profitability. he might say i care about the safety of the american people. the justice department argued that the president has unreviewable authority, unreviewable authority and anything less would be second what's your response to that? tell you what our response was in the court on friday. mile-per-hour solicitor general, who made the oral argument, and i was prout his it is not unfettered. everybody must follow the rule of law and follow the constitution and that applies even to the president and in some respects especially to the president. that did not happen here.
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>> is this the issue in how exit presidents do not have -- >> we did notes did compute that. but it is not unfettered authority. you've got to look behind the motivations that went into this executive order. president trump made many comments tlut his campaign about wanting to have a muslim ban, for example. we're seeing it appropriate for a court to look at what mod fitted that order. it complete discretion for the once, are and cannot violate the constitutional right of washingtonians. >> you're going to need some coffee. you have a lot of wook.
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>> i'm deeply proud of their efforts. >> i believe. >> we'd like to bring you some ink ink inkrb, this is at jfk airport in new york just a short time ago. this family was denied entry into philadelphia as airport just hours after president trump signed his executive order. they were on their way to set until allentown, right near where i went to school, where relatives bought a home for them. it had taken the family 13 years to secure the visas and passports to relocate to the united states. they were cleared for travel with the help of pennsylvania republican congressman charlie dent and the aclu. seems like scenes like this have been happening all weekend long, families being reunited. i want to bring in an attorney
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who sued on behalf of two iraqi men detained at an airport while traveling to the u.s. omar, is there a massive rush? i'm guessing there must be, for people to come in before the ban is reinstated? >> well, i think that people who were stuck overseas because of this ban are taking note of the fact that there's a window right now for them to come in. but i want to underline this is not a question of bad people coming to our country. these are all people who have been fully vetted and gotten visas and permission from the u.s. government to come to this country, people like that family that you just featured, people like our clients in the case that you mentioned who were both people who had worked for the u.s. military in iraq or whose families had done so and who had actually gotten permission to come here on that basis. so, yes, people who have been fully vetted and have the legal
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authorization absent this executive order to come to the united states are doing so. and that's something that we should be happy with. >> are you worried, what if while this ban is lifted, what if something terrible happens and we do get a terrorist attack and this lays way for the president to say, see, i told you so and the restrictions that could come on the heels of this could be significantly more harsh and met with more support. >> i mean, look, with this president there's always the danger that he will take advantage of any tragedy to try to push forward his unconstitutional agenda, his discriminatory ideas, but we need to look at the facts. weep need to look at the fact that the government, for example, put no evidence whatsoever forward, despite the fact that d.o.j. could call up anyone in the government and ask them for a declaration, they put no evidence forward suggesting
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that there was any actual danger from lifting this ban. you know, and on the other side, as you noted, there are sworn declarations from people with real national security expertise who are saying that it's making our country less safe. it's making our country less safe, it's making our country less secure, it's making our country less prosperous to try to put forward bans like these and that's just what the facts say. >> do you believe up need to tell your story in a different way? because throughout the campaign there were many americans that said they don't feel safe, they could look at this and say, yes, it's great to see this family reunited but we're still scared and donald trump through the pouter of twitter will say i'm just here to keep you safe, we want to have extreme vetting and border control. whether or not they make sense or not, they sound good in a tweet.
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do you believe the other side is making the argument that we currently have strong vetting and border control. to that family, 13 years it took them to get those visas. >> i'll say one thing about the tweets, which is that i'm not so sure if you look at that twitter feed the way it's looked over the last few days that it looks like someone you should be taking advice from on these kinds of matters. i think that the truth again is that these processes are in place, they're factive, there's no record to point to of any danger coming from this group of people. the question really is are we going to believe the trump administration or side with the trump administration when their argument is essentially, yeah, it's totally unreviewable. we can keep people out on the basis of their race, we can keep people out on the basis of their religion, we can keep people out
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if we deep side we don't like headhe redheads one day. we can cancel visas that people are holding and relying on in their daily lives both here in the united states and abroad? it's not the way our country works and not what our constitution allows. >> thanks so much for your hard work. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> there was a different kind of hard work last night on the field. the super bowl, it made history and so did the advertisements who took on social issues. this was not the year of clydesdales, puppies and pretty girls. this was about open borders, equal pay. but first, the commander in chief seeming to defend yet again vladimir putin in an interview with fox's bill
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the russian government is black mailing him. the call for the probe came the said day president trump said this about vladimir putin in an interview with fox news's bill o'reilly. >> do you have respect putin? >> i do. >> why? >> i respect a lot of people. that doesn't mean i'm going to get along with them. >> he's a killer, though. putin's a killer. a lot of killers. you think our country's so innocent? >> so-called federal judge, vladimir punt he has respect for and some republican leaders don't like what they heard. florida senator marco rubio tweeting "we are not the same at put putin." peter, twitter is the forum for tough talking but at the end of the day, republicans are they doing anything? >> reporter: the republicans have at least felt uncomfortable
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with vladimir putin's embrace of russia broadly. this put them in another bad position. chris collins, one of donald trump's first supporters said you can't compare russia to the united states. mitch mcconnell, while he didn't want to criticize donald trump himself, he said there is no moral equivalency here, he made it clear vladimir putin in his words is a thug. ben sass, another thsenator sayg the same, putin is the enemy of political dissent. so it was once again up to the vice president, mike pence, to do a little bit of clean-up this weekend. he spoke on a series of sunday talk shows, including with our colleague chuck todd where he talked about donald trump's desire for a new relationship with russia. >> he has expressed himself in the campaign, an election that he won, that he was determined to go forward and see whether or
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not we might be able to start anew in the relationship with russia. the president has said many times if we got along better with russia, that would be a good thing for the world. what you have in president trump is someone who is not going to look if the rear view mirror so much as looking out the wind shooe windwindshield. >> the kremlin had nothing to say about what president trump said but they were upset with bill o'reilly, saying that he should be giving putin an apology. >> peter, chris collins can say you cannot compare putin to the u.s. except our president just did. so in terms of action, nancy pelosi, who earlier called for an investigation into donald trump's finances, his taxes, saying could there be some sort of financial tie to donald trump on the business front to russia,
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could they be blackmailing him, the fact that the one thing he doesn't ever seen to waiver on is whether it's support or open mindedness around vladimir putin. do you think there's actually going to be next steps into this investigation? because republicans can say they're offended all day long, but it's what you do, not what you say. >> i think you're right. obviously this is familiar messaging. we've heard this from democrats repeatedly, not just during the campaign but since president trump became president trump. this dates back to investigations, we know the fbi is looking into whether russia interfered in the u.s. election. nancy pelosi is the minority leader. she doesn't have the same power see has as a majority leader butch she can certainly as the -- as the house speaker but she can certainly ask for an investigation to take place. the bottom line at the end of the place, we know there are counterintelligence investigations going on but the likelihood of a criminal
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military base that oversees all military operations that take place in the middle east. clearly this is going to be an important meeting the president has there. he's going to be briefed by the top brass talking about national security, something that has garnered a lot of attention throughout the country. and i want to share an update now on that legal battle over president trump's executive order on immigration. just moments ago i spoke with washington state attorney general bob ferguson. he's the guy who represents one of the two states involved in the suit that led to a judge halting the executive order. ferguson says his team has been working around the clock filing the latest responses to the suit. >> we're saying it's appropriate for a court to look behind what motivated that order. the federal government's response is, no, you can't look at anything, it's complete discretion for the president and that just cannot be the law because we have a constitution, we're a nation of laws and even the president must act in a constitutional fashion and cannot violate the constitutional rights of
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washingtonians. >> joining me now democratic congresswoman also from washington state, a member of congress and the first indian american in the house of representatives. moments ago president trump was arriving there in tampa. national security and how we interface with the rest of the world couldn't be more important. speak to us about this executive order and how fearful the immigrant community is that the ban could be reinstated. >> well, thank you, stephanie. you know, one of the most important things is to recognize how this executive order is unconstitutional and inhumane. so what we've seen is across the country last weekend families thrown into complete limbo. a lot of people don't know that half of the refugee population that is slated to come to the united states is joining family members here. most of them have waited in line for many years to get through that process. and so what the executive orders did is throw everything into
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chaos and people were restauranted and we're so pleased that now thanks to our great attorney general from the state of washington, very proud to be from that state that, we now have a state on this executive order. obviously lots of things to come here, but we are seeing that the national security question cannot and must not be framed as a question of immigrants against the united states. the united states is a land of immigrants. i myself am one of those, and i can tell you the barriers that we have in place for people to actually come to this country are substantial, as they should be -- >> can you speak to that specifically. for people who doesn't knon't ny know, when they hear the president say i'm just trying to keep the country save, talk to us about what vetting looks like today, putting aside the ban, before the ban, what's the process like?
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>> my family's from india and it does have the largest muslim population of the world. even if you were to come here as a legal immigrant as i did, it took me 18 years to get my citizenship and i went through a whole alphabet soup of visas to get here, despite having a son who is a u.s. citizen. as i know until very recently until this executive order, we were still only allowing about 110,000 refugees into the country each year. now president trump was trying to cut that back to half. that is an extremely small number of people. so the vetting to get into that line and to get through that process is -- often requires multiple agencies. not only international human rights agencies, u.n. agencies but also all of our national security agencies are part of that vetting process. there's about 20 steps that have to be gone through in order to
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get screened in. syrian refugees, by the way, have the most extreme vetting and screening that we can see. and judge robart in seattle in issuing the nationwide stay did speak to this and essentially said there is no proof that you are giving me to the government, he said this, there is no proof that you are giving to me that there's any logical reason, factually based reason to put a ban on these folks. >> then is your issue that the spirit in which donald trump wanted to pursue this order or the way they executed it? former spokesperson jason miller said this was donald trump trying to fill a campaign promise and get it done quickly. >> well, it's both. i think the courts are going to tell us that over and over again but it also incredibly badly executed. it's a no win for their side i think on both counts. >> thank you so much.
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apologies earlier when i made a mistake, india, not indonesia. apologies. >> thank you so much. >> president trump landed as macdill air force base. he'll begin briefings by central command and southern command officials. i'll speak with malcolm nance. and with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" she knew exactly when i'd be there, so she didn't miss a single shot. i replaced her windshield giving her more time for what matters most. tech: how'd ya do? player: we won! tech: nice! that's another safelite advantage. mom: thank you so much! (team sing) safelite repair, safelite replace. [he has a new business teaching lessons. rodney wanted to know how his business was doing... ...so he got quickbooks. it organizes all his accounts, so he knows where he stands. think on both counts. i'll speak with malcolm nance. way to grow, rodney! visit quickbooks.com.
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landed in florida for president trump's visit to central command. kristen welker is at macdill air force base. what's scheduled for the president's visit? >> reporter: it's a busy day. he'll be briefed by top officials and then he'll visit with troops. and then he's going to address the troops, deliver a speech, really trying to put the folks on national security today. i anticipate he's going to talk about the fight against isis and the strategy moving forward. this all comes aprmid different controversies, everything from when he seemed to drawl moral equivalency between russia and the united states and of course that travel ban, which has now been blocked by a court and the
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white house appealing that. the question is will he address that court order? as you know, this president typically weighs in on news of day topics, so i wouldn't be surprised if he talked about that as well. can i tell you that just down the road from central command here, there are about two dozen protesters. that will be one of the images greeting him as he prepares to talk to u.s. troops here. again a very significant day, the focus on national security, as he prepares to sit down with the troops that he now leads. >> i'm joined now by malcolm nance, executive director of the terror asymmetrics project. malcolm, what kind of reception do you think the president might get given the relationship with the intelligence community? yes, this is the president of the united states, but if you think about where he's come from, the fact that he says he wants isis eradicated in 100 days, he's been highly critical of how terror was approached in the last administration, will there be some level of stress? >> well, the level of stress for
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donald trump won't be particularly much on him, it will be on the braeiefers and commanders in the field who are going to have to give him a very hard reality check. isis cannot be defeated in 100 days. there has never been a war that's gone 100 days without years of preparation and months of battlefield action leading up to that, even includes the first gulf war. it's really incumbent on him to understand these are going to be the professionals at macdill that are going to give him the reality of what the situation on the ground is, what his options are if he decides he wants to get a little jumpy with iran, which we've seen a lot of rhetoric coming out of the white house this last week, just how difficult that will be and just how hard it is to fight from the other side of the world. you know, it's not just something you can say you want to do and have it actually instantly occur. >> all right. to your point, these are the professionals that know the region best that, understand it
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best. just today retired navy add mir mike mullen, he served as joint chiefs chairman from 2007 to 2011, he penned an op-ed for the "new york times" saying i was on the national security, bannon doesn't belong there. he of course is speaking about stephen bannon and his elevated role in the trump white house. now, mike mullen's comments are not necessarily unique. throughout the campaign, we heard from dozens and dozens of national security experts that said the arguments that donald trump was campaigning on didn't hold water. he didn't have an understanding of the complicated issues we face in national security. so while mike mullen's piece is strong, do you think president trump will listen? >> i'm not sure. i find it fascinating he's decided he's going to visit as his first major military command that he went to central command and will get briefed in by
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southern command, which handles mexico, the caribbean add all of latin america and central command handles the arabian persian gulf, yemen and iraq for the most part. those are significant to me and it's significant because it tells you where he wants to place his emphasis. he should have visited the pentagon and the national military command center with all the leaders of the armed forces. that being said, admiral mcmullen as comments are right on point. you should not have a politician inside a room of the highest level, most commensurate military experts setting policy, which will lead people to life-and-death decisions about their sons and daughters. that means you're putting a political come sar in the room to maintain political purity. >> maybe they went to tampa
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first because the president wanted to save gas. could be. never know. malcolm, thank you so much. always appreciate your thoughts. next, we'll take you live to gillette stadium. the patriots of course snatched a super bowl win in overtime, locking in tom brady's legacy. what a win, what a year for the patriots, specifically brady. and that wasn't the only thing that made this weekend memorable. "saturday night live," if you didn't see it, you got to check it out online. they made headlines with what rolling stones has called an epic stretch, mel ace mccarthy channelling white house secretary sean spicer. spicer himself called it, quote, cute and conceded it's all part of american culture. wow, sean, there you go. >> it's not a ban. >> i'm sorry? >> the travel ban is not a ban which makes it not a ban. >> you just called it a ban. >> because i'm using your words.
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come-from-behind victory. nbc's blake mccoy joins us live from foxboro, massachusetts, home of gillette stadium. fans are already lined up. blake, let's talk about last night, what this has been for tom brady after a brady after a four game suspension. 39-year-old quarterback who got to have his mom at the game, she hasn't been there all year who has been sick, how big of a deal is this for brady? >> reporter: a huge deal and sense of vindication for the team after the whole deflate gate scandal. well over 1,000 people right now waiting in line, this is the line to get into the pro shop to buy some of this championship merchandise, we nabbed one of the hats here, for tom brady this victory was really an amazing one, one that he says is the most important victory of his career, a record fifth super bowl victory, this morning in a press conference in houston before flying back here, he dedicated that win to his sick mother, who was in attendance last night. take a listen. >> she's been through a lot, you
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know, way harder than what i went through last night, and my dad's been there every step of the way, so they set such a great example for me, you know, and you know, all families go through challenging times personally, but you know, she's a lot of support and a lot of love and just happy last night to be able to celebrate with her. >> certainly one of the more touching moments to see her in attendance at the game last night. the team is flying back here today to massachusetts, boston around 4:15, gillette stadium. the victory parade tomorrow 11:00 a.m. >> super bowl ads, msnbc contributor and "new york times" reporter yamesh alsinder. i want to talk about the ads. seemed like they were deeply
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rooted in diversity, immigration, inclusion, take a look. >> well cocome to america. ♪ >> those were some statements. companies like budweiser said their ad had nothing to do with the current political climate. i don't know that i believe that. budweiser, puppies, clydesdales, meat, hot women, we didn't see any.
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isn't it fair to say these were some political statements. >> these were political statements and these companies maybe had these commercials in mind before donald trump became president but they knew when they aired these ads that people were going to take it in a way that was a political statement. think about budweiser airing that ad about the founder of their country coming from germany and people saying we don't want here, being on the boat with an african-american man trying to get to st. louis, a clear message we're all immigrants and the people who made america and really created this country came from all parts of the world to create this fabric that we call our nation. so i think that when you look at those ads and you look at ads like audi, talking about a young woman in young men she should have equal pay and airbnb with discrimination and people deciding they don't want people of different races staying in their homes, it doesn't matter who you love or worship, that
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the company values your business, so i think that all of these ads really spoke to a moment we're having in america and that's really we're all trying to figure out who gets to be called an american and what we want this country to be going forward. >> what is the purpose of these ads? because from a marketing perspective, no matter how big or small your company s it's a huge spend. these ads made huge statements but what's their goal, to sell more product? >> i think the goal of the commercials is to sell more products but i think these companies take a risk when they make these political ads, you think about who drinks budweiser beer, americans all over the country. if you take the statement says our founder was from a different country and this is not the way we should treat people, heckling them when they get off the boats and planes. they're taking a risk. there is an ad they want us to be talking about their companies, they want people to be the next day after the super bowl to be kind of really honing in on the messages that they had
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but at the end of the day they are also talking to consumers saying look we want to be the people who are socially conscious, we want to tell you we're thinking about the climate you're under. you think of the movement of delete uber and within a day people were mass deleting this app that so many people used and were turning to places like lyft because they thought that company had a better social fabric, so i think that people are definitely making these calculations and really thinking about how they spend their money in this new age that we're in, and i think companies are very aware of that and want to make sure that they're protecting their money. >> how about 84 lumber, they got the reward in terms of we're all talking about them today but that's a company many of us didn't even know and 84 lumber's customer, their core user might be the blue collar worker who supports donald trump and these policies that an ad like this doesn't necessarily align with. is it a risk for a company like that? >> these are complete risks for these companies.
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you think about 84 lumber and who they might be catering too, working class, people of color, probably also are sponsoring them but there are people that probably support donald trump shaking their heads to that company. the calculated risk is something the companies are embracing in this time. >> all right, yamesh, thank you for joining me. i thought there were some beautiful ads last night. we'll take a quick break. american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. find out how american express cards and services we're not professional liathletes... ...but that doesn't mean we're giving up. i'm in this for me.
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