find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. thanks for joining us tonight. happy friday. look at this awesome picture from 1968. i love everything about this picture. this is the central middle school band from orville california. this majorette part of the band. they are marching downtown on may 14, 1948. this property of the department of water resources. the reason the california department of resources had the photographer on sight taking pictures is because that day the governor of california and his wife came to orville california

to tour a big new piece of water infrastructure. he and his wife went to orville for the brand-new orville dam. they got to see the machinery. they got to go inside of the dam. you see in the white sneaker, with the super cute haircut, that's ron, jr., he got to go along. it looks like they were having a good time. ronald reagan gave a speech. it was a hot day, just in case. there was a big parade to welcome the governor and all the big dig na tearies. lookt that. thousands of people turned out to the dedication of the orville dam.

we have one picture of the crowd that's in color as well. look at that, 1968. who are the ladies in green? what was their role? the local middle school and high school bands would come out to meet you. this for example is what they gave ronald reagan for a souvenir. what this is a ball of dirt specifically it is dirt from moment in history. ronald reagan in 1968 of the opening ceremony of the dam. but this is the moment that they broke dam.

this was 1957. this was good win night and he has a shovel full of dirt. somebody at the ground breaking had the for sight to safe that exact shovel full of dirt. they dump it in an empty fish bowl or something, they saved it for the dam when it would be complete and running. they saved this amount of dirt from that and they gave it to ronald reagan. they sent him back with a giant jar of a previous governor's dirt. that's for visiting, mr. governor. it's like you moved into a new apartment and the landlord give you a bag of dirt.

the orville dam, they dedicated it in 1968. it's a big deal. it's thealest dam in the united states. it's 770 feet tall. it's one of those large things that we humans made. you can see the giant reservoir, it's basically the central thing in the grand plan that made california work as a state with a huge population. this centerpiece that moves water down into the central valley to irrigate the productive farmland in the countries.

lake orville is massive. it is made possible because the orville dam is massive, tallest dam in the country. now in terms of how its situated here, this give you a good view. below the dam, the featherr river. they can relief water into feather river. they are release water through tunnels that are at the base of the dam. they were trying to open up the tunnels to let water through and something went wrong and there was a giant suction problem.

this had to hold on for their lives. it's a good reminder that this is a big piece of infrastructure. this is a powerful thing. there's a couple of different ways to get water from this reservoir down to the feather, what they do is they use the big concrete spill way, it looks like a track, like a cross between an onramp and a ski jump. they can chute it down the gutter into the river. it's about a mile long. it's a key part of this huge piece of america infrastructure. this is what it looks like when

its dry. this is what it looks like when it's on, when they are putting water down the spill way. on tuesday afternoon, this week something went wrong. instead of the spill way looking like this, like it did since 1968, this tuesday it did not look like that. instead it looked like -- wait. that's not right. that's not what that's supposed to look like. see it shooting out the side. tuesday afternoon, they realized something was going wrong on that spill way. water shooting out all sorts of places. the water not confined to the gutter. they shut it off to have a look and what they saw -- this was wa what it looked like.

you see the giant sinkhole opened up in that spill way. they shut off the water initially. here is the thing, they can't keep that water shut off. because even though that giant whole opened up they have to run water down that spill way right now. they can't stop because lake orville at the top is full. it was 98% capacity as of today. california is not having a rainy season this year. they have having a monsoon season. i know, big question about overall clim overall climate all of that stuff, if they can no longer run water down that spill way because it's busted to relief the pressure in the lake, i the lake fills up, and over fills

and overops that dam, if that happens, the water doesn't rundown the to the feather below, if it over tops the dam, is what they call down the emergency spill way, which not a spill way at all, it means the water comes down the hill. if it rundown at force, it will bring the hillside down with it into the feather river. and conveniently all the way up to the san francisco bay. that flood could flood towns along the way. this is a heck of a choice, you either shutdown the water, let the dam get over topped and

rundown the hillside and see what happens to california or you keep running water down that broken sinkhole gutter to see how honi how long it will hold. it will spread and split down to the bedrock. what are they going to do? this are running it to complete failure. hope for the best. it's best option. pray for dry days. so we have been watching this since tuesday night. people in california have been watching this closely. this happens to be the drinking water source for 20 million people in the state of california. the dam itself is safe. it's built in the drock, they say the dam will hold.

they are confident of tt. that's good. because it's a 800 foot dam, thealest theale the tallest in the country. my dad worked in the water system for years and he has been texting a texting and e-mailing me about it all week, i could tell when i saw the pictures of the spill way that something was wrong. i will confess to you, dad, i did not truly appreciate what a literal big deal it was. what a large deal it was until i saw this one particular picture. and at first glance it looks like the same picture until you realize the little dot there is

a full-grown man and that shows you the scale of this. that's people in there. that's how big the whole started out as. know i get it. that's the massive size of the undertaking to fix this when it's over. it's like in king kong and you see him on the empire state building when you're like oh, that's how big he is. we will keep a watch on this dam. i feel like that's not a story it's a news help. i feel like that's lesson in watching the story about that dam in california, that lesson about perspective, about appreciating the size of this story, i feel like this

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story. at one level i can appreciate this story looks like i have heard something about this. the sinkhole is spreading further. it seems like a develop in the ongoing concerning news about the new administration and its ties to russia. if you can step back from the story for a second. if you can look at it fresh, arrange some other news stories for purpose of gain perspective on it it, i think what this new development is about the national security adviser is like 800 foot tall dam that's about to be over topped. you cannot keep running water down this thing. what do you mean we have no choice it's going to blow. we have senator who going to

give perspective on this. he said if the report is true in the national security adviser must be fired. let break it down this way. basic revelation is simple and stunning. right after christmas the u.s. government announced sanctions against russia in retaliation for them interfering with our election. they took back the compound and they kicked a bunch of russian out immediately with tho notice. at the time we were advised to expect retaliation. whenever we expel diplomats and seize property, it's all relevantaluation. so the obama administration did

their sanctions, kicked them out in december. we were brace to hear what russia was going to do on the 28. when they announced their response on the 30th, it was, we're not going to respond. it was weird. russian diplomats would have to be in transit over the christmas holiday over the -- he putin would not be expelling americans diplomats from russia, their families would be welcome at kremlin to come to his party. it was so wired. quote, putin's response took white house officials by

surprise. it took a search for clues. one official tell post quote, happened in those 24 hours in putin's response. they found evidence that trump national security adviser, mike flynn and the russian ambassador had communicated by text and telephone by the time the sanctions were announced. we get blunt admission that quote, they routinely monitor communications with russian diplomats. this blunt force take it to the bank assertion by "the washington post" that's the source are quote, nine current

and officials, nine who were in senior position at the time of the call. the "new york times" reports officials who have quote, read transcripts of the call. we have u.s. agencies bugging the russians, right, listening in on the call, and what they hear, is the man who going to go on to be trump's security adviser calling the russian government and telling them don't worry about the sanctions that the u.s. government is putting on you. he calling russia to undermine the sanctions that the obama is putting on russian for attack on election. don't worry about it. once trump is sworn in, we'll take care of it. working secretly with the

foreign power to undermine the actions of the u.s. government. that's a big deal. even the trump folks recognize somebody doing that would be a big deal. they recognized it enough they took great pains to deny the heck out of for a week now. >> -- did not come up in the conversations. >> they exchanged information on how to initiate and schedule a call. that was it. plain and simple. >> they did not discuss anything having to do with the united states decision to expel diplomats or impose a sanctions against russia. >> i can confirm those are not part of the -- i can confirm. >> there's no way mike flynn would have crossed that line.

there's no way he would have undermined the u.s. government with a foreign power. there's no way he would have been talking about the sanctions with the russians. no way. as of wednesday this week, mike flynn was confirming that he did not speak about those sanctions with russia. when the post went back with him all about quoting what we know transcripts of the u.s. intelligence interaccepts of that phone call. last night he changed his mine. now, i don't remember if i talked about sanctions. so bottom line, how big is this? is this just a little marginal development in this story that we have been watching. either the white house spokesperson, when chief of

staff all lied bluntly or they lied invertly or unknowingly because they thought it was true because mike flynn told them a lie. that's seems like a big deal for a top people in the brand-new administration. you're going to lie to me and make it look like i'm lying. and i get nailed for it. .1, the lying. the second point is senior national security adviser in this interfered -- in terms of a assessing the size of this that's what i want to put adam

chaffetz in a moment, buried in the 7th paragraph is the news that this discussion between mike flynn and the russian government undermining u.s. policy toward russia, undermining the sanctions, it wasn't a stand-alone thing. it was not the first of many conversations that have continued since the new administration was sworn in. no, that wasn't the start of this talking. both papers are reporting mike flynn's contact with the russian government started during the campaign. not since he has been national security adviser, not since after trump was -- but while trump was running for -- donald

trump president, his top national security adviser was in repeated contact with the russian government at that time. look, there is from the post. quote, the talks were part of a series of contacts between flynn and russian official which began -- contacts that began before the election. during the campaign while russian was interfering with the elections we're now confirming. really? cnn reports it's been corroborated about trump in russia by a former british spy who has disappeared. if you recall this controversial

dossier it contained two main allegation one was russian government collected damaging compromising information about donald trump that was of a sa layous and personal nature. the other was that the campaign co luted with the president. cnn reports that intelligence, u.s. intelligence officials have now corroborated parts of it. two parts are the salacious personal stuff or interfered with our election. the part that has been corroborate is not personal salacious stuff. you should note that the white house is refuting that they are

calling it fake news. that's where we are. is part of reason we got new president not just because some foreign person tried to make that happen. his campaigned worked with a foreign government to influence the outcome to make that happen. if so, it feels like that's not a sinkhole, to me that feels like blowing the dam.

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and influence the outcome of our elections. i asked about this tonight, the president said what now -- >> i don't know about it. i haven't seen it. what report is that? >>. [ inaudible ] >> i'll look at that. >> the question is once the president looks at that, do we expect him to do anything about it? >> joining us is congressman chaffetz. >> good to be with you. >> i'm grappling with this. on the other hand it feels like a bad story. what's your assessment about how

damaging or worrying is this? >> it's damaging and alarming. you set out conent tent so well. you did a marvelous job putting together. the context is simple as this, the intelligence community found that russia interfered with electing donald trump. you have trump campaigns general flynn, having a private conversation with the russian ambassador around the time that president obama announced sanctions to punish russia for interference and flynn says don't worry about sanctions on you for helping you win, once we take office, we'll take care of it. if that's true, it should result in his removal from office.

if further is true this course of conduct throughout the campaign you have serious legal violations as well. that's something we are investigating and have to get to the bottom of. >> some people have been talking about that general flynn he was a private citizens, people were talking about whether or not that violated the logan act. that's obviously, a law that's never been prosecuted. when you say there may be legal issues, is that what you're talking about or are there other potential illegalities here? >> as former u.s. attorney

myself, that would be a difficult statute to prosecute. i think what would be more significant here in addition to the fact that the general flynn would be working against u.s. national security interest is the fact that he misled the country. the cover up is worse. if the campaign during the campaign including michael flynn was collaborating, then all kinds of laws were violated and that would have all kind of repercussions. >> that espionage? is that treason? that category of laws we are talking about? >> i think there will be a number of statutes that would be implicated that would be easier to prove than those exceptional

ones. if it the trump campaign was colludeding the publication of information, the theft of data, was receiving in-kind support from foreign adversary in power. if they prove to be true, stepping down from office be would the least of officials. >> congressman, thank you for being clear and straightforward and calm in your discussion on it. i feel like you are a beacon here. >> thank you, rachel. very busy night. stay with us. ily tree, i discovered a woman named marianne gaspard... it was her french name. then she came to louisiana as a slave. i became curious where in africa she was from. so i took the ancestry dna test to find out more

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despite official denials from the trump administration there have been a sudden rush of raids around up in six states yesterday and today. those reports have been s circulating. the leader of the california state senate responded this way. quote, i appreciate ice disclosed recent about their raids. their comments were false.

when news first broke of raids happening i ice told media that reports of 100 immigrants were grossly exaggerated. they told numerous media outlets yesterday was are yroutine, dee troubling and needs to be fully explained by the trump administration. joining us now is kelly de leon, the california senate leader who issued that strong statement following these not just unannounced, but officially denied raids across his state. senator, thank you for joining us tonight. i appreciate your time. >> thank you, rachel. i enjoy being here tonight. >> so, usually we turn to the federal government for an explanation about the scale, the motivation and the results of sudden actions like this.

in this case it feels like we can't trust what the government is telling us about their actions. what do you understand about the facts of what's happened over the last 48 hours or so? >> well, rachel, it's been really difficult to get any information out from the i.c.e. authorities. historically, even under the obama administration they have always been somewhat forthcoming and transparent with who they are detaining, who they're deporting and the reasons why, but with the trump administration, there's a new attitude. it's overly aggressive. it's a new tone and tenor, and we're really concerned because we tried incessantly last night to get the facts, to get the figures, and obviously, they're not sharing with us the facts. in fact, i believe even worse, that they were misleading the public. i find it quite agalling that they attempted to lecture the public when it came to a sense of public misleading of what was actually happening yesterday. but it's been very difficult given a new trump administration. they're very overly aggressive

with what they're doing and they said they did not arrest 100 individuals. in fact, we find out today it was actually 160 individuals. >> one of the things that we saw -- we're showing footage while you're speaking about the spontaneous protests that happened last night in los angeles, people reacting in anger and clearly in surprise to what had happened. one of the other things that we're seeing is there's, for example, a pledge that people are taking called here to stay, where people are basically pledging to bodily put themselves on the line to try to stop people from being deported, to try to block arrests, to try to help people evade the authorities or to put themselves in the way while these arrests are happening. do you have any reaction to that? do you understand the impetus for that? do you feel like that might drive confrontation here? >> well, i can tell you this, rachel, that there is a lot of fear, there's a lot of panic throughout the community, not just in los angeles, but throughout california and

throughout the nation. there's a lot of consternation. the anxiety is extremely high, especially among children who are fearful that they may not, no longer see their mothers or their fathers. children are being dropped off at school and are fearful that come in the afternoon that standing at the curbside waiting for their mother or father, they may not actually appear. panic and anger is so high that there has been talk about human shields, about ordinary u.s. citizens actually protecting nannies, gardeners, people who clean our homes and take care of our chilen and creating this sort of human chain to protect them. i don't condone this type of comportment, but i understand why the anxiety, the consternation is so high here in california. >> state senator kevin de leon, the california state senate president, thanks for your time tonight, sir. keep in touch with us about this. >> absolutely, thank you. >> we need good sources of information as this and i am as troubled as you are that we can't get it from the federal government. thank you. >> thank you, rachel.

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>> i am speaking for him right now, letting you know -- >> okay. so, the affordable care act, one of the provisions is that insurance companies have to dedicate 85% of your premium to actually delivering health care. does representative zeldin support or oppose that part of the fordable care act? >> i can get that information. >> okay. the affordable care act guarantees that women cannot be charged more for their premiums than men. does representative zeldin support or oppose that part of the affordable care act? >> again, i can get you that information. >> okay. the affordable care act guarantees that children can stay on their parents' health care until they're 26. does representative zeldin support or oppose that part of the affordable care act? >> all i can say is that -- >> you know where i'm going with this. >> we do see where you're going with this, staffer trapped in front of the ladies' room there. that's what it's been like with constituents expressing themselves toward, in this case, new york republican congressman

lee zeldin. today, the congressman canceled a town hall two months in advance of when it was supposed to happen in april because i think he is not particularly liking what it means for him and his staff to hear from his constituents these days. but you know what, i wanted to show you that clip of that confrontation over the affordable care act. i think it shows that people in general are getting very good at being very articulate about obamacare all of a sudden, right? whatever the fights in past had been about, right? with the people on the right saying, oh, it's socialized medicine and death panels and stuff, and people in support of it not necessarily being able to be that snappy. people all of a sudden are really good about articulating what's good about the affordable care act when they're talking to their member of congress, when they're talking to congressional staffers. this, for example, was last night in tennessee. >> my name is jessie, and i'm in your district. it's from my understanding the aca mandate requires everybody to have insurance because the healthy people pull up the sick people, right?

and as a christian, my whole philosophy in life is pull up the unfortunate, okay? so, the individual mandate, that's what it does. the healthy people pull up the sick. if we take those people and we put them in high-risk insurance pools, they're costlier and there's less coverage for them. that's the way it's been in the past andhat's the way it will be again. so, we are effectively punishing our sickest people. >> that was at a meeting last night in tennessee with republican congresswoman diane black. people are getting very good at putting their member of congress on the spot about health care right now. and for people who want to save the affordable care act, that skill is about to become important, way more important than it's even been thus far, because last night at 2:15 in the morning, the senate confirmed tom price to be the new health secretary.

zero democratic votes. 2:15 a.m. seems about right for that vote. i'm sure it helps to have zero attention, zero audience on a vote like that, particularly thanks to tom price's ethics problems, his lots and lots and lots of ethics problems. but if republicans in congress have had a hard time sort of getting it together to start taking away health care yet -- they haven't even come up with a way to explain it to their constituents yet -- swearing in tom price today is expected to put some steam in that republican engine. so, tom price has been sworn in. in terms of what happens next in the cabinet, republicans could be voting tomorrow on treasury secretary steve mnuchin, if they wanted to, but they're taking the day off instead. they said they would work through the weekend. they're not working through the weekend, so expect a steve mnuchin vote on monday. that's also when we expect protests nationwide over the president's pick of labor secretary, the man whose pick of carl's jr. and hardee's, larry puzner.

it will begin with protests in two dozen cities, protesters highlighting labor violations and discrimination cases at puzner's only company while he's been ceo. their contention is he's unfit to be in charge of labor laws for the country when he's been breaking them as a businessman. the following day on tuesday, a court in missouri will decide whether or not to unseal his divorce records from back in the day. the government watchdog is asking that those records should be unsealed because they reportedly include claims of domestic violence made by mr. pudzner's ex-wife towards him. he's denied the allegations and his ex-wife now says she takes them back, but his critics argue that those claims, if true, would make him plainly unfit to be in charge of efforts like combating workplace harassment and violence. so, monday, protests at carl's jr. and hardee's, tuesday the court hearing on the domestic violence allegations in his divorce records and then thursday, we get his confirmation hearing, the one

that's already been delayed four times. so, like the senate, get some rest this weekend. you're going to need it. that's it for us tonight. see you monday. msnbc live is next. good morning. it's 7:00 a.m. in the east. here is what is happening, court decision to fight immigration order. >> we have other option including filing brand-new order on monday. we'll examine what it looks like and legal fall-out. snow dan back to u.s. and why he reacting already. constituents on a wide