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we'll have more in just a moment on that. but nirs, republican lawmakers facing anger from constituents who are worried about how a repeal of obamacare would impact their lives. a town hall meeting just wrapping up a short time ago in newport richie. tammy leitner is there for us. tammy, talk about what people had to say today. >> reporter: hey, sheinelle, hundreds of people showed up, so many that couldn't even fit in this room. a lot of personal stories being shared today. emotions were high as i mentioned. i want to give you a sense of what it was like in this room a short while ago. let's listen to a little bit of sound from earlier. >> i am 77 years old, and i think it's unconscionable for this politician to tell me that at 74 i will be facing death penalties. >> i like my medicare. i want to keep my medicare. please, there are parts of the aca that make my medicare easier
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because of the aca. so do not get rid of the aca. it will have so many big problems. it's not funny. and this is just a little bit, and then here, don't you get the message? >> reporter: i'm here with ivana shepherd. what stuck with me, you told me your brother has epilepsy, and you remember your mom on the phone with the insurance companies and nobody would insure him. >> that's right. before the affordable care act, i do remember my mother spending hours on the phone with insurance companies to try to negotiate medications for my brother, epilepsy medications are very cost prohibitive. my brother's always worked two or three jobs and he was never able to afford insurance before the affordable care act. once he was able to get coverage under the aca, he was able to start seeing a good neurologist and qualified for surgery that ended up curing his epilepsy.
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he's been seizure-free for several years, but still has follow-up care to an expensive neurologist. our family is concerned if he loses coverage under the aca, he would not be able to afford the follow-up visits. it's a way of ensuring that people have a safety net under them so they're able to have the right of having good quality health care so that they can go on to be productive members of society. >> thank you very much. just one of the many, many personal stories that we heard today, sheinelle, a lot of people say aca is really a matter of life or death for them and their families. >> i saw the line there. tammy leitner, thank you. now to protests, voicing their opposition in support on the issue of planned parenthood. these are pictures in new york city. let's go to morgan covering both sides of this. morgan, what are you hearing from protesters? >> reporter: sheinelle, we've
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been here all morning. you can hear the crowds behind me. this is the abortions rights activists supporting planned parenthood. you can see the signs, mind your own uterus. we've got about 1,000 people in washington square park here. i want to introduce you to sharon. sharon, you were explaining the importance of planned parenthood beyond abortion. can you explain the communities it affects in your opinion? >> i think that looking at planned parenthood, a lot of people have the perception it's all about abortion. and they provide a lot more services than that. for the trans community, a lot of planned parenthood clinics have started to extend health care to them as far as harmony replacement therapy is concerned, sexual health, and sexuality and sexually transmitted diseases. so people need to widen their
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scope of planned parenthood and not think they just do abortions. if they focus on the website and do a little bit of research, they would know that they have a whole host of other services that they provide. >> when you zero in on abortion, the other side said sometimes if you take abortion off the list of options, some people said they would be okay with it. i want to take you to the other side, because earlier this morning, a few blocks away, there were abortion -- anti-abortion activists and they were outside saying we do not support abortion. let me show you what they had to say. >> remind us that our elected representatives at the national, state and local level that we are here. we want to defund parenthood. we stand for women's rights and women's health care. we want the funds to be redirected to other qualified health centers. we want that to happen right now.
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>> men, or husbands, fathers, brothers, and men have women in their lives, and children in their lives. and men defend women and children. we also do all have a basic humanity whether you're a man or a woman. you have a right to life. that includes newborns. >> reporter: and sheinelle, you can see tensions were high today. this is the third straight week of protests happening throughout the country. and today this is an issue that's foreign to a lot of peopler people were coming to the podium. one woman said she had her first abortion at 16 years old. the woman who performed the service said she continues to be a mother or a murderer. you're hearing lots of personal stories. people who were affected by this issue in their own lives. >> it looks like that crowd is growing. morgan radford, thank you, morgan. president trump is vowing to keep up the fight to reinstate his travel ban after a major setback this week. here's what he said during his
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weekly address this morning. >> we will not allow our generous system of immigration to be turned ainst us a a tool for terrorism, and truly bad people. we must take firm steps today to ensure that we are safe tomorrow. >> the president is in florida for a working weekend which will include phone calls to the president of tunisia and colombia. this is ahead of his meeting with canadian prime minister justin true dew at the white house on monday. trudeau is one of the most vocal critics of the ban on travel. kelly, the president is in the middle of kind of a busy day for himself and the first lady. it seems clearly he's managed to sneak in some tweets. can you talk about where he is right now and what he's saying? >> reporter: yes, good afternoon. the president had twittered several times today. in part, talking about the fact that he and melania trump are
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hosting the japanese prime minister and talking about that they are a wonderful couple. he also talked about what he refers to as the great wall, the president noting that there have been reports that the cost of constructing a border wall would be much greater than had been anticipated. the president using twitter to say he has not yet gotten involved in negotiating, and working on the price and he believes the price would come down. he also began the day talking on twitter about the legal immigration system he said is broken. he said taking a quote from a "washington times" article saying that 77% of refugees allowed into the u.s. since the travel reprieve, meaning that court action, come from the seven suspected countries. so the president is really hitting a lot of the hot spots. and today i can tell you he's still at one of his golf courses here in jupiter, florida, where he is hosting the japanese prime minister. they're playing a round of golf. there was not coverage of that. but we do know that the small group of reporters who go with
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him, they are still there. so we can presume he is either still playing or he's on the grounds with japanese prime minister who had requested being able to play golf with the president. and then what is also notable today is what we call the east wing at the white house. mrs. trump is doing her first solo activities as first lady. and she escorted the japanese prime minister's wife, mrs. abe, on two events today. first, to a japanese garden in florida, where they were able to see some really beautiful grounds, and spend some time together, very traditional role for a first lady. and then they are having a private lunch as well. for melania trump, it is the first time she is in that role as first lady without her family also being present. it is a day of recreation. you mentioned the calls to other world leaders, so donald trump keeps up his pace, it would appear, of wanting to be in his home base of florida for the winter, but working on his weekend, as well as doing some
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entertaining that has diplomatic spin to it this weekend. sheinelle? >> thank you for checking in, kelly. let's bring in political reporter for the "los angeles times." and heidi political reporter for "usa today." good afternoon to both of you. >> good afternoon. >> seema, what are we seeing in the town halls for obamacare? do you think these protests will have any impact on how republicans handle the aca? could the repeal and replace mantra be on life support? >> republicans are already talking about it, that they're struggling with replacing the affordable care act. for so long since the president signed it in 2010, they've been talking about repealing it. but now that they have control of both houses of congress and the white house, they're struggling to come up with what the replacement is. you can't dump tens of millions of people off their health care without disastrous results. we've seen this in comments from the president, from congressional leaders, that
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president trump said he would -- the first thing he did get into office is get rid of this. and possibly going into next year. i think the energy you're seeing at town halls is a continuation of the energy we saw after the inauguration, at the women's march in d.c. it started in northern california with congressman tom mcclintock outside sacramento. he had to be escorted out of his town hall by police. that is unprecedented. town halls are pretty boring state of affairs, so it's an upset we've seen on the left. the question i have, does this continue, or do people just get tired of protesting. >> heidi, how long, or how do republicans not turn this into a political moving happened, if you will? it was such a winner for the campaign. >> yeah. and i think it's a continuation of what we saw after the women's marches. i think what's happening here, sheinelle, the left has always had a great progressive infrastructure. what they haven't had is the enthusiasm. now, the people, the populous is
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coming to them. the women's march kind of demonstrated that. what you see are the outside groups now harnessing it. i think the town halls are actually pretty organic. but in terms of the protests as well, that's where you have these outside groups now coming in to harness some of that energy. and i think the longer that the gop kind of fiddles around on what exactly -- defining exactly what the replacement plan is, the more the fear, the legitimate fear is going to build that they do repeal without having some kind of replacement in hand. i think what obamacare has also shown is that obamacare has really has, even if it is repealed, it has totally changed the culture around health care in this country, such that the american public, like most industrialized countries now, sees access to health care as a basic right. and they see some of these provisions that were passed, like, coverage for preexisting conditions, coverage for adult children. these are not expectations that
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are going to be a part of whatever that replacement is. and it's going to make it even harder for republicans, because every plan that we've seen so far, even theoretical, has not included the same numbers. you know, broad coverage for all americans. they may be able to bring prices down, but not necessarily covering as many people as obamacare currently covers. >> i'm sure you saw the town hall with jason chaffetz. i'm thinking, who are these people who are booing, and -- i mean, it was brutal. more than a couple were hillary clinton supporters. what was your take on this? >> i think it's remarkable. these town halls are usually pretty boring things that nobody goes to. usually when members of congress are home, during the recesses. so the event we saw there, the scenes across the country speak to the amount of passion among democrats, among the liberal left. and the question is, do they become like a tea party force, where they continue and they affect not only republican
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politics, but democratic politics going forward. >> i want to turn, heidi, to the travel ban. the president said he would either tweak the executive order or do a makeover. what do you make of this strategy? >> it seems like if he pursues it through the court it will be unsatisfying to his administration. because it could take a long time. what he's probably going to do, most watchers are expecting, is to tweak it. but the question ,s he going to be able to tweak i in the way that's acceptable? the ninth circuit has already warned that a number of the potential changes that they floated do not go far enough. so then that lands him back, again, with the court slapping him down. the question also is, is he going to continue this kind of contentious public posture that he's taking against the courts and use this like from a political perspective to continue to gin up his base as well. but it sounds, like i said, if it goes through the court system in its current form, it's just going to take a long time for
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this to be solved. >> seema, i want to talk to you about the i.c.e. raids that took place this week around the country, including where you are in los angeles. i.c.e. officials are pushing back on claims by activists who said they were connected to president trump's executive orders. officials say the raids were being planned before the executive orders were issued. but what do you make of the timing here? >> you're exactly right, the i.c.e. officials say they were long planned out. in terms of activists, we saw protests in the streets of l.a., they don't believe them. given president trump's rhetoric about immigration, deporting millions of people, people are very skeptical about the timing. we obviously don't know. i.c.e. officials say these were planned before. but if you talk to the people on the street, they're skeptical. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, but you have the arizona mother who has lived here, who was brought here, essentially a dreamer, brought here at the age of 14. she doesn't know any other country, being deported.
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either it's about removing the first line, which was also obama's priority of violent criminals, or it's not. but when you have people like that mother being deported -- >> that's a problem. somebody asked me, i frankly didn't know the answer, they said, listen, if she was reporting like she was supposed to, she goes in to report and all of a sudden the switch is flipped, so to speak, and now she has to go back. did she -- what could she have done? she was reporting like she was supposed to. i didn't have an answer for that, frankly. i don't know. >> i think the anxiety is so high, because dream erlgs have given their names to the obama administration. that was a compact. that was a pledge that they thought they could take to the bank. it was an honor system. now the potential implications of that are pretty scary for a lot of those people whose names are now in the government's hands. >> seema and heidi, good discussion on this saturday. thank you for your time. >> thank you. the next legal step in the
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to the legal battle over president trump's immigration order. president trump last night suggesting another potential path forward. >> we'll win that battle. we also have a lot of other options, including just filing a brand-new order. >> joining me, garrett, professor at the university of baltimore school of law. also a supreme court correspondent for the atlantic. good day to you. >> hi, sheinelle, glad to be here. >> what's your position on the immigration ban? are you for it or against it? >> as a matter of policy, i'm against it. i think it has serious constitutional problems as well. but that issue is very close. and we don't know how the courts
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are going to come out on that. >> what do you mean it's close? >> i mean that this order raises issues that have never been definitely settled of what extent values like due process and equal protection of the laws apply to people who are outside the united states, but have some claim to come here. there are relatives of americans, and the american relatives want them to come. this is what the ninth circuit was relying on. and that's not clearly established law. >> if you keep it that narrow, is that how the president could win, so to speak, when he talks about -- is there a clear path forward that will allow him to reinstate that entry ban on the seven muslim majority countries? >> the president is in a lot worse situation than he was before he issued the executive order because he's got adverse law coming out of the ninth circuit that calls into question the whole basis. and even calls into question whether this law really is
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discriminatory against muslims. the court didn't decide that, but they made it clear they were watching that very carefully. i think that, you know, a new executive order might put out some of the fires, but the case goes forward. the administration has no choice but to try to defend this, or negotiate an end to it. that's not a good situation for them. >> if they come up with something else, let's say they scrap it and decide to say, let's go with this plan, that other one still goes? >> it could. because we have a rule in the law that what's so-called voluntary cessation doesn't end the case. in the ninth circuit, they said in their opinion, you tell us now you're not applying this to green card holders, but we don't believe you. you could change it as soon as the case ends. the fact that there's a new executive order doesn't necessarily get them off the hook with the present litigation. >> we just had an interview this afternoon, and there are so many
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people, probably a lot of people watching right now, who say, listen, i understand the constitutionality of everything, but we're in a place where we have to secure the country, you know what i mean? could that be an argument at all that the president may perhaps have information we don't have? >> the ninth circuit panel was said, listen, you've showed us no evidence. you said this case has to proceed in a hurry and we don't have time to get evidence. we're not going to play that. and then they said, don't tell us there's secret evidence you can't tell us about. this is true, in our court system, courts receive secret and classified information all the time and maintain the confidencity of it. they can say, we haven't had an attack by people from these countries, but if you have information, let's see it. >> quickly, i want to play this exchange. it took place between trump administration lawyers and the ninth district court judges. take a listen. >> the district court asks the
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representative of the department of justice, how many federal offenses have we had being committed by people who came in with visas from these countries? the answer was, there haven't been any. >> yes, your honor. these proceedings have been moving quite fast, and we're doing the best we can. >> legally speaking, can the ninth district court judges have come to any other conclusion after that? >> what the administration asked the ninth circuit to say is that courts can never, ever questions about an immigration judgment reached by the president with the national security justification. that would have been extraordinary. and the opinion says, you know, no, we defer, we are willing to give the president the leading role, but he can't tell the courts to just butt out and let him do whatever he wants. that's never been the law. so we have a right to ask to see evidence, or to know something about what you're basing this order on. and the government at that time
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had no answer at all. >> really quickly, in your latest piece in the atlantic, president trump's statement about the ju dishes process. do you think politics was a factor at all? >> i do not. i think you can disagree with the ninth circuit's ruling, but i think they are working very hard and being careful to try to follow the law. and i'll tell you one other thing which is, a president, we've never had one before in this country who literally sets out to try to intimidate judges while they're sitting on a case, is going to lose credibility in front of the court and he's going to lose the close cases if he keeps this up. >> garrett epps, thank you for your time on this saturday. >> glad to be here. three weeks into the presidency of donald trump, how satisfied are americans about the state of the country? wait until you see the results of a new poll. that's coming up next. from the first moment you met
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i'm sheinelle jones here at msnbc world headquarters. across a number of states, a focus on planned parenthood and whether congress should defund the organization. anti-abortion groups planned more than 200 demonstrations around the country. supporters of planned parenthood responded with counter demonstrations. right now, in baltimore, the democratic national committee is holding its fourth future final forum. elections for dnc chair and other officials are set to take place later this month. alex, what have you been hearing from the speakers so far? >> reporter: well, sheinelle, we are in the home stretch of the dnc chair's race as you mentioned, just about two weeks away. we've already been hearing from some of the candidates about their plans, firing up supporters in a room downstairs
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here, ahead of the forum that will take place at 3:30, 4:00. we've heard from local lawmakers, senator ben cardin was out here, congressman elijah cummings. a lot about trump, about fighting trump. this is, after all, a group of hard-core democrats. these are people who lost big in november. looking to get fired up to fight trump again. look at what elijah cummings had to say. some pretty strong words. >> for too long we took our democracy for granted. we just assumed that it would always be there. bulletins coming off of the wire, donald trump hopefully has awakened us, and we're now prepared for battle. >> a lot of people in the audience, they are excited to hear that kind of rhetoric. one thing i have heard from some of the candidates that i've spoken to, and other democrats here, is a little bit of concern
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that by the time the dnc elects a new chairman on the 25th, and the dnc gets fully staffed up, they might have missed some of the opportunities to capture that energy that's come out from the liberal grass roots against donald trump. dnc has really been a part of the protests we've seen so far. so they'll have to do some catching up. >> are you hearing any buzz as far as a front-runner is concerned? >> reporter: yes. the two guys to watch in this race right now are the front-runners congressman keith ellison from minnesota and tom per res, the former labor secretary under president obama. it's a very crowded race and complicated race. the way it works is, there's multiple rounds of balloting. if somebody doesn't get the lowest amount they get kicked off the ballot and their votes transfer. a lot of internal negotiating happening, some deals perhaps being cut. but right now, those two guys are way out in front. ellison kind of seen as representing the bernie sanders wing of the party. i was just at a rally with him here, 500 people, pretty big
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considering baltimore is perez's home turf. tom perez, his rally, he's got a lot of people fired up, democrats. he's more coming from the obama wing of the party. it's going to be close. everybody i've talked to say they don't know what's going to happen heading into the atlanta meeting. could go to multiple rounds of balloting. it could come down to the wire. >> thank you, alex. straight ahead, a plea for health care. what's likely to survive, a republican part of obamacare? e the highest average earning potential over their professional lifetime. see? uh, it's a girl. congratulations! two of my girls are toms. i work for ally, finances are my thing. you know, i'm gonna go give birth real quick and then we'll talk, ok? nice baby. let's go. here comes tom #5! nothing, stops us from doing right by our customers. ally. do it right. whoo! look out.
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almost a ploeth into the trump presidency, a new gallup poll shows a partisanship in what americans think about the country. take a look at this. overall, americans' satisfaction climbed to 30% since last month. but the change among republicans is quite stark. 55% say they are satisfied with the way things are going in the
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u.s. that's actually up from 22% a month ago. 17% in mid-november. and 6% last august. now, as you might imagine, satisfaction among democrats has really gone south, which is 13% currently satisfied. that's down from 62% in days just before the election. and 34% in mid-november. right now, in florida, constituents demanding answers from their elected representative when it comes to repealing the affordable health care act. in newport richie, a packed room confronting republican congressman. >> i am 77 years old. and i think it's unconscionable for this politician to tell me that at 74, i will be facing death penalties. >> i'm so close to the poverty line. the first year i was not sure i would be over the poverty line to qualify for any coverage under the affordable care act. because our state chose not to expand medicaid.
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had i been under the poverty line, i would not have been covered for anything. i would have gone straight from disability to uninsurance and would have ended up back on disability within six months without access to my medication. >> taking away the affordable care act and the help that i receive while in the doughnut hole will no doubt bring me down to poverty level. aren't there enough women already in poverty due to divorce and death, do we have to add medical poverty. >> let's talk about this. joining me an opinion editor at forbes and health care adviser to the romney campaign. good day to you. >> hey, sheinelle, how are you? >> so much pushback here around the country. how will this affect how the current health care law is reformed? surely they're listening. >> i think it's actually good for republicans to have this conversation with their constituents now. because it drives home the importance of their solution, having answers to those who did
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get coverage through obamacare. now, a number of the people in your clips are people who are on medicare over the able of 65. it's important to remember, the aca reduced medicare spending in ten years, cut spending by $850 billion. so if they're concerned about changes to medicare, the aca is responsible for that. however, republicans do need to have answers to these very important questions. >> take me behind the scenes here. we have republicans here who have been opposing the aca, running on getting rid of it. they don't have a replacement plan. i recognize that's not easy to come up with. if this reform goes down badly, will the republicans have to own this? >> republicans united in what they're against. they're against obamacare. they're not yet united on what they're for. there are some broad agreement in terms of principles. but the details really matter. because republicans in my view need to put forth a replacement plan, a reformed plan that covers roughly the same number of people of the aca.
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at least the people who got coverage with the aca who really wanted coverage and needed it and couldn't get it before. that's a very important benchmark for republican plans. it's going to take time for the house, for the senate, for the white house to work together and figure out exactly how they want to do that. >> i want to get your thoughts on this poll here. half the country now saying they don't want obamacare repealed compared to 46% who do. this appears to be a winning issue for the president on the campaign trail. now it feels like it's turned around. here we are again with the divisive issue, 46%, 50%, what's your take? >> yeah, i've been following these polls for a long time and they're actually very consistent. people don't approve of the aca, that it's lived up to the promise and hype of reducing the cost of health care which is the number one concern for most americans. but they also don't want to go back to the system they had before the aca. what republicans need to do is find the sweet spot where they can talk about fixing the parts of the system that are broken,
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but keeping the things about the aca that people actually really like. >> what about the lack of availability? >> lack of availability of insurance plans? absolutely. that's extremely important to fix. and to do that, you have to change the regulations in obamacare that drive insurers out of the market. the problem is, a lot of those regulations, they can't change unless they get 60 votes in the senate. working with democrats like chuck schumer who is not eager to work with republicans. >> looking into your crystal ball, what do you see going forward? obviously, are they trying to rush this? are they not? i don't know. >> i think it's going to take a lot longer than they were hoping and expecting to come together and come to agreement on a plan that has 50 votes in the senate, let alone 60. and that is competitive with the aca coverage. there are a lot of technical details they have to work out to get there. it's going to take time for members to come to agreement on what that is. i think this could go into the
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fall. and maybe even the winter. >> do you think republicans know, listen, ultimately, do 18, would they be at risk if they don't get something done? >> i think a lot of their voters would be depressed or upset if they don't fulfill that promise of repealing and replacing obamacare. here's where the rubber meets the road. they'll have to come up with a plan, competitive with the aca on covering the uninsured, the people who really need access to coverage, and reflects their principles of less government intrusion, lower costs and more competition. they can get there, but right now, there's a lot of debate internally. not that they don't have a plan, there are actually seven or eight plans, but putting those plans together that reflect a broad consensus, that's what's going to be hard. >> thank you for your time today. >> my pleasure, sheinelle. what are behind the reports of michael flynn talking to russia's ambassador about sanctions? next hour, the tears of a
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a new development this afternoon on president trump's national security team. national security adviser mike flynn's top aide has been denied security clearance to the national security council. this comes as flynn faces fallout for revelations he discussed sanctions against russia with russia's ambassador before president trump took office despite publicly denying that. joining me is intelligence and national security reporter kim delaney. what's the latest, kim? >> it's been a rough couple of days for the president's national security adviser, certainly. the development you just referenced, mike flynn picked a man named rob townsley, a former marine special operator to be his africa director on the national security council. he's apparently been denied security and had to leave that
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job. that's a setback for flynn. the bigger problem for flynn has been the revelations about his phone calls with the russian ambassador to the u.s., after he said, and told the officials at the white house that they did not discuss president obama's sanctions against russia over that alleged election related hacking. and, you know, vice president pence, among others, representing the american public said that didn't happen. so now you have democrats calling for mike flynn to step down. the only person that decides his fate is president donald trump. he hasn't commented on this situation. >> let's talk about the timing with the calls with the russian ambassador. that's critical. >> so the timing is that, at least one phone call, according to the white house, happened on the day the obama administration announced sanctions penalizing russia for interfering in the election, which they say
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benefited donald trump. what democrats are fearing here is there was a secret deal, that flynn was assuring the russians, hey, don't worry, we'll take another look at these sanctions when we get into office. it wouldn't be necessarily inappropriate to discuss this matter with the russian envoy, but there's a question about why would they want to lift those sanctions if they are getting nothing in return, sheinelle. >> why is it gray? if the calls were tapped or there's information, wouldn't we know exactly what was said? >> well, we would -- whoever halls the -- >> we don't know, but they do. whoever "they" is. >> right. this is a highly classified presumably counterintelligence quir quiry by the fbi, maybe with the help of the nsa. it's amazing that this stuff is being discussed in public. when an american is picked up in the intercept of a foreign
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ambassador, that name wouldn't even be in the transcript. in this case the fbi decided to review it because there were concerns whether flynn was acting appropriately in discussing this matter before he took office. our sources are telling us there's been no finding of illegality against flynn, and this is more of a political question and did he tell the truth. >> why do you think we're just hearing about this now? >> i think it's partially diligent national security reporting on the part of the "washington post" breaking the story. there's a bunch of obama administration officials who were briefed on this matter, and are very concerned about it. and are now out of office and want to make sure the public understands the full picture here. >> how do you see this -- we realize you don't have a crystal ball, but how do you see this playing out? >> you have a bunch of democrats criticizing mike flynn. mike flynn doesn't even have to appear congress, he answers to one man, president trump. it depends how trump see this is going forward. >> with that said, we have to
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nbc is celebrating black history month by profiling 28 young african-american pioneers. find the profiles on nbcblk@nbcnews poi nbcblk@nbcnews.com. joining me, the youngest mayor, michael tubbs. >> thank you for having me. >> take you back a little. how did you get involved with politics, so you've been on the job about a month, but your cousin was murdered. is that correct? >> my sophomore year in college, my job work with counce ims summati council members nationwide. i was at stamford, i thought i
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would have a prosperous career in the private sector but dealing with feelings and emotions with losing a loved one caused me to question my purpose and decided to go back home. >> talking awere friewith a fri other day. a lot of african-americans, yourself, myself. people say you went to stamford, your life so perfect but don't know the story. your father incarcerated not from a politically connected family, did go on to stanford, could have left your town. why did you go back? your cousin, in addition to your love for the city? >> a couple things. survivor's guilt. you mentioned, grew up in poverty, my mother raised me from very young, my father incarcerated. things i experienced very personally and i felt god blessed me with a tremendous amount of opportunity but it had the to be more for michael tubbs
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could be satisfied. nothing like going back home and doing all i can to make sure the full potential is realized. >> what do you think about president trump's promises to "fix the country's inner cities." unveiled a team in honor of black history month to reach out to the african-american community. what's your thoughts on this? a positive effort in your mind? >> well, i think any attempt to fix the issues in the quote/unquote urban communities gives folks opportunities for jobs. stockton, baltimore, detroit, et cetera aren't just solved by law enforcement alone but quality schools, jobs, and investment and positive agenda to help -- give people a boost so they can lift themselves up by a bootstraps. a focus on inner city but has to be comprehensive and how to end
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poverty, essentially. >> you won overwhelmingly against your opponent. probably not going to gloat by any means. what was the number? pretty high. what was it? >> i think 72% of the vote. >> goodness gracious. okay. how's it been? it's been about a month? >> yes, it's been a month. it's been, drinking from a hire hose. >> ooh. >> i was on city council four years was great experience it is. the profile, excitement, energy. folks from all over the nation want to partner and invest. it's about priorities and explaining to people i'm one person with 24 hours in a day. spend eight of those sleeping and can't solve everything by myself. getting with the community and other leaders in the city and i consider it an honor to be so young and to serve as mayor of the city i grew up in. >> quickly, we have a few seconds. your number one priority? >> reducing violence and incruii increasing opportunity, and for
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people invested in a long time as well. >> clearly your heart is in the right place. proud of you, my friend. congratulations. thanks for talking to me, you can learn more about mayor michael tubbs, check is out in the nbc blk special section of nbc news. that wraps up this hour's "msnbc live." my colleague will continue to monitor the news and what russia might get out of edward snowden sending him back to the u.s. the whistle-blower, sent back to the u.s.? i'm sheinelle jones. have a good day.
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