on the matter publicly. but first we'll start with president trump's working weekend in mar-a-lago in florida. after ending day with prime minister shinzo abe and his wife. he says his first priority is to keep americans safe. >> we will not allow our generation system of immigration to be turned against us as a tool for terrorism and truly bad people. we must take firm steps today to ensure that we are safe tomorrow. >> the president also tweeting this morning about another campaign promise, the border wall and its price tag. kelly is here latest. >> the president using his personal residents at mar-a-lago, the golf courses that bear his name to entertain

an important world have i ever seen, shinzo abe. and we're also seeing today the first time melania trump is during first lady duties. they were on a goornd tour today, held a private lunch, very typical style for first ladies. the president has been tweeting as we expect him to, and he's done that on some topics that are certainly prominent for his new administration, talking about the what he refers to as the great wall saying he intends to do negotiating to reduce the cost after reports the ever saying it would cost $20 million. at the same time the president is also tweeting about the new travel ban and the response after that once the courts said it could not go into effect. and the president saying a large number of the refugees are

coming from those countries. again, trying to say that those countries are an issue that he believes he can win in court or set up a new executive order. we expect that could come as early as monday. the president telling reporters that is one option of simply writing a new executive order to deal with extreme vetting or pursuing it in the courts. . the ban mix of work, recreation and hospitality for the trumps and the abes here in florida. >> kelly o'donnell in florida. immigration raids are igniting protests while critics say they're connected to the executive order, many say it's a marking for deportation. let's get a perspective with dave gutierrez from atlanta. obviously a divisive issue. what are you are hearing on the ground? >> hi there, atlanta is one of

those cities where some of those ice raids went down over the past few days. i've covered the issue before, and i can item many of the people we've spoken to have been reluctant to go on camera. one immigration attorney we spoke with says among the immigrant community, there's a growing fear and panic. let's talk about what you mentioned. is this a direct result of president trump's executive order? ice officials say no, it is not, but it has drawn protests over the last few days especially since that case in arizona where an undocumented mother convicted she convicted of using a false social security number to work in the u.s. has been deported. ice officials say this latest round of raids -- they don't even like the word raids.

they say it's routine operations to enforce if law basically. the new secretary of homeland security said as much. in order to get away from the idea that these raids were indiscriminate, they say they arrested 164 nationals over the past few days and 150 of them had criminal records. 95% of them were male according to ice officials. again, an ice spokes penn says the white house had no discretion in this latest rounds of enforcement raids. the congressional hispanic caucus is waiting for a meeting with the ice director. atlanta again, one of those cities that had some of these operations. >> gabe, you mentioned you covered immigration and these issues before.

ulc put for us in perspective how routine they are compared to what we've seen years ago. there's certainly a sense of concern among undocumented immigrants in this country that they are worried this may be a surgery. is there any evidence to back this up to say this is not a routine? >> it's certainly a very complicated issue. the obama administration had many people saying the deportations had increased. some dispute that because of the technicalities. they seem to think this is completely different. with that new executive order that president trump signed expanding the ability for some of these ice officials to enforce the law as they see it,

these immigration advocates say this is going to be a new normal and that many of these undocumented immigrants feel if they're a in the same apartment complex with somebody that is the target of one of these raids that they may be picked up. these immigration attorneys are holding seminars and telling them what their options are if immigration and customs enforcement comes to their homes. there's a growing sense of fear among these communities, not just in atlanta where there's ban dozen arrests, but also in states like california, new york, north and south carolina as well as illinois. certainly something that we're going to continue to watch turnover months ahead as as the the fallout of this executive order really becomes clear. >> let's delve into this with sylvia joining us live from

houston. she's an accomplished immigration lawyer. i want to start with this ice wave of deportations. austin is seeing a crackdown. ice is describing this as, quote, routine. from your perspective from what you've seen and hearing from your clients, does it seem unusual to you, and if so, how? >> of course thanks for for having me. this is very unusual. unusually immigration raids hasn't happened in the last years, and now we're seeing people without criminal records being detained. yesterday close to 100 people were arrested some of them without criminal records. ice is showing up without a warrant many times and sometimes they are showing up on cars that are not marked. this is not the normal way to do

things. >> ice says its latest raids don't come at the direction of the white house. our report was referencing expand powers. deuce a point of where ice would openly carry out raids on the president's orders or is this, again, simply something where we already have the power? is there an expanded power that has been given to them since president trump has taken office? >> yes. and i think that the procedures and the policies internally have changed. i have seen that during the course of my practice here. >> can you tell us what those -- what has changed as a result of the president's executive order? >> of course. the officers have more discretion. the policies have changed on the fact that they now have the ability to arrest according to the the new executive order anybody who is undocumented can

be considered a criminal. he expand that definition. what i have noticed while with my interactions from officials from immigration is that they are getting new directives that are to be closing the boarders and closing the amount of immigrants that are here to adjust status. they've actually now targeted communities, the latino communities in austin. >> let me ask. when we talk about the cases of undocumented immigrants in this country t number is put anywhere between 11 million or higher. obviously the cases that ice is going to after right now, they're numbering in the hundreds, maybe at most in the thousands at any given point. ice being criticized for isolated deportations. is this a way at all to dealing with the broader issue of illegal immigration into the u.s. at this point?

>> no, of course not. this is not the way to deal with it, especially when you target people without criminal records, when you target people who are here working many years. the policies are completely -- especially if you start targeting people who are reporting to ice and are compliant with the rulings and the laws by reporting every month or every year. that's not the way to crack down on immigration. that's not the way to actually improve the numbers. i think that they have it incompletely completely wrong. i know it might be hundreds or a thousand people they are arresting, but the effects are really big and clear. the population is very afraid. we have seen an attorney for the

mexican consulate here, people concerned and afraid for what's going to happen. >> i assume some of the clients you deal with are undocumented immigrants in this country. what are you advising them when they ask you what should they be doing? >> see, that's where everything changed now. now we have to tell them of course don't open the door if they don't have a warrant, be very careful, make sure that you have an emergency contact because we are afraid that on the small towns, on places where people don't have access to much communication that their constitutional rights are going to be violated. we're telling them be very aware, be careful, do not open the door if immigration comes. and many times now immigration is coming without the uniform.

that's what we're hearing. and they come pretending to look for somebody else and they arrest everyone in the family. we're telling them to be careful and to actually make plans in case of removal for their children. >> it's great to have you with us this saturday afternoon. thank you so much. >> thank you. it's another saturday and saturday filled with protests as people made their voices heard from coast to coast. in north carolina a massive crowd attended an annual civil rights rally. in raleigh there was a protest focused on state government. this year it took aim at president trump and state law that limits the lgbt community and their rights. planned parenthood was also the center of protests today. more than 200 rallies were held. in fact, participants asked the government to strip funding for the organization, but there were

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was emotional. for two and a half hours dozens of people got up and shared their personal stories, many of them personal million stories about preexisting medical conditions which of course are covered by aca. one woman talked about her brother and she remembers her mother woeb would be on the phone with insurance companies because they could not get insurance to cover him until they get aca. a young man in his 20s talked about having three jobs and nonof those jobs had health insurance. a doctor also talked about how aca has impacted his practice. let's go ahead and listen to what he had to say. >> when i first came 15 years ago i would see very few self-paid patients. through the recession i would see three or four a day. now i hardly have any self-pay

patients at all. >> many of the people we talked to said they felt like their voices were heard today. ayman. >> thanks for joining us. let's talk about this with donald trump's fight with democrats growing by the week. bill o'reilly columnist and democratic strategist ms. omar. let me start with you, jonathan. you wrote that the democrats are finding their inner tea party, so to speak. what's fueling the anger the most, do you think? >> trump is the ultimate recruitment tool, and what we're seeing now is actually quite similar to the tea party. it's not entirely organic. it's also blended with organized infrastructure and serious funding. what we're seeing is protests

all over the place that are incredibly intense. when these congressmen are going to back to their cities, they're going to face angry crowds. >> a lot of the concerns we're hearing from folks has to do with repealing obamacare and a lot of criticism actually being leveled against republicans that they don't have something adequate in place. a lot of personal stories. are you at all surprised? this was such an easy issue for republicans at the campaign trail that they were gog going to repeal and replace obamacare. >> i think it's really important that republicans go out there and talk to people and pete with people and be vachblt there is a lot of concern out in the country. i think some people are alarmed by the new president's actions and i think it's important for republicans to make themselves available to say, hey, we're

going to be rational and to listen and no-to-not hide. >> are you surprised at how much anger there is right now? >> it depends. we're not going to know other than in retro. democrats are in good shape. >> there's no gop plan in place right now to be clear, right? >> on obamacare they're going to have to keep parts of obamacare and try to fix it and add reforms. >> from a democratic perspective what can the democrats do the harness that anger and translate it into political momentum. >> you have so many people attending democratic meetings, activists groups are springing up across the country. certainly a lot of the vision will be set nationally for the

party. specifically talking about the issues that are concerning people, one, this aca repeal is obviously getting people excited and going to town hall meetings, talking about education and the fact somebody has no public education training or education policy experience is running our department of education. talking about the issues that most affect americans and harnessing this energy and getting people out to the polls. >> jonathan i got to ask you a question. myself having covered a lot in the middle east i'm used to hearing overseas that people who interrupted him were paidage taytors. have you seen any evidence that someone is bank rolling this effort? >> look, there's some reporting by "the washington post" that there are people being bussed around by a super pac. blets very, very clear.

if george soros is funding this, he's richer than any of us can imagine. it's evidently nonsense and you just don't see the kind of intensity that we're seeing all around the country by some sort of grass tops effort. >> even if these folks were being bussed in, that's not the same as saying these are paid agitat agitators. are you kind of dismissing them at running the risk at what the democrats did with the tea party with obamacare. >> the political party has always been more organized on the ground than republicans in the country. you're seeing a lot of krumt right now successfully. there are a lot of

demonstrations. the left will punch itself out if they guess and chase every shiny object the president puts in its way. the average america will just shut them out. >> i'd like you to weigh in on this. as a democratic strategist have you gotten a sense about who may be behind this? >> it is. organizing citizens who are organizing their fellow citizens to turn out to these town halls, it's people volunteering to put together spreadsheets. that's who's doing it. it's not paid in any way, shape, or form. for someone who's been involved in politics for 1 years, i've never seen anything like it. to see members of congress dismiss it as paid protests,

they do it at their own peril. this is a natural movement that's only going to keep going. they would do well to pay heed to what's happening on the ground. >> let's talk about the immigration ban. a setback for the white house. president trump's plans. do you think this was a defeat? what deuce the white house doing? appealing to the supreme court taking their losses and writing a new executive order? >> absolutely it was a humiliating defeat. we're going to have to see what he does. i think he goes back to the lower court. they're talking about rolling another executive order next week. the country needs congress to step in here. there are cities and states that have policies that i may not completely agree with, but they were pushed into that position because of a failed formative. you have two republican houses and a republican president.

they need to act. >> jonathan do you see capitol hill prepared to work with president trump on this issue? because these executive orders you're putting out on this issue have been shot down. >> look, i think that's their preference whether that could get 60 votes in a senate is another question. but this is a really interesting if he does redraft it it's an interesting retreat. i spoke to a trump source 12 days ago when this was blowing up. this was someone intimately involved with the executive order. i said is there any chance you will redraft this thing, and the reaction was complete bemusement, no way, it's perfect, everything's great perfectly drafted. so this is a real retreat and an acknowledgement that the

original document was not managed correctly. >> bill made the point of democrats going after every shiny object and there are love a lot of things being put out that are drawing the concerns of democrats whether it be nominees for candida positions, grins -- immigration ban, what have you. what is the best prch. do they go after everything or harness their energy and go after a few? >> absolutely harnessing their energy and going after key things that are crucial to a cross section of americans. if we went after every tweet we'd never get anything done successfully. we really have to focus on the issues that americans and how this whole situation has been handled is horrible. i heard officials getting onto buses in the metro area to get

to look for people undocumented. it's scary for a lot of people. honestly harnessing that concern and turning it into a productive movement is the best use of the democrats' time. >> great to have all of your protectors. democrats calling for national security advisor to michael flynn to step down. the latest on the kroergs and flynn's future. stick around. or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. find out how american express cards and services

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being confronted over obamacare. to keep the affordable care act in place. on the heels of a major winter storm that dropped a foot and a half of snow in boston, another storm in new england. high winds creating blizzard conditions forecasted into monday morning. fear is running high in immigrant communities after authorities arrested hundreds of undocumented immigrants in a series of raids across the country. officials are defending the raids describing it as routine actions targeting known criminals. our reporter is just outside about the particularly growing concerns over the rise in ice raids. what is mexico warning its citizens in the u.s. to do particularly those coming back to mexico? >> ayman is mexican government

warning them to take the necessary precautions. they're also trying to make a new effort to welcome the new deport tease. the mexican president took a trip to welcome the newly deported. on the ground here in mexico as you can imagine people are scared and disgusted by these images. that's a word somebody used today. i want to introduce you to my friend gee vanny diaz. you've lived in the u.s. for 20 years of your life and you recently came back to mexico, you self-deported. what do you miss most about the u.s.? what has been the hardest thing about moving back to mexico? >> it's a different world.

i miss my brothers who are both u.s. citizens. i miss drive throughs, playing basketball with my friends. i miss everything. >> i understand you went through depression, you hit rock bottom when you came back. it's been a year. how do you feel now and what is your message to folks who come be watching you now who don't have papers and think they might find themselves in your shoes pretty soon? >> i would tell them they're welcome here as their home. i know i hit rock bottom, but after some months i bounced back and i'm happier now. i'm happy i get to work the in the land i was born in. come here we can make mexico a better country. >> thank you so much. ayman many families like his separated. they have u.s. citizen brothers, sisters, children in the u.s. and they gram with the fact they

may be separated from their families. >>st it's always about people and families being ripped apart. for fallout after a u.s. intelligence official told msnbc that michael flynn discussed hacking related sanctions with the russian ambassador before president trump took office. this run contrary to the the resumption communications. it came the same day of dmorgt dpugs diplomats. certainly puts into question what was discussed on those phone calls. msnbc reporter has been covering this story, joins us from our washington bureau. what are you are hearing in terms of the latest on these

phone calls involving michael flynn. >> i mean mike flynn is coming andrew wave of criticism both by democrats and i want observers. you have democrats calling him a liar, calling for him to step down. "the new york times" had a stinging editorial today. the fact that these phone calls, that he was communicate with the russian ambassador before the trump administration took office, that was revealed a month ago. but flynn communicated through white house and the vice president of the united states that he did not discuss these sanctions that the obama administration put on the russians over the hacking into the election, which after all was designed to favor donald trump. now we learn that flynn did discuss the sanctions with the russian ambassador. experts say there may not have been something inappropriate

necessarily, but will it may have been okay for the purpose of to do that. the question is did he tell the truth about it. that's the source of a lot of the criticism. >> let me ask you another question about michael flynn and his top picks to head african affairs on the national security council. being denied a security clearance what do we know about that. how much do we think is personality against mike phone line as opposed to another issue, if possible? >> there's no way to knowle eexactly whether it's personal. what we know is that rob tamly who is a former maine was slated by flynn to be the director of african affairs and he did not receive clearance. we understand that flynn believes that the cia was responsible and that flynn has long held a bit of a grudge

against the cia according to people who know him. this feeds into his perception that the intelligence community has it in for him. there's a lot of reasons people cannot qualify for particular security clearance so i'd caution into reading too much into this story. thank you very much for that. joining us is a national political reporter for real clear politics. a lot of politics. donald trump is very loyal to people who were loyal to him. general flynn was certainly loyal to him when others weren't coming publicly to his defense during the campaign. how do you see this playing out between two men, very close to the white house giving two very different accounts of these phone calls? >> that i think hits the political question on the head which is when does become a problem for the president. we've seen president trump does

regard loyalty very closely. he also does not let lot of these other controversies bring him down, things that would have brought more controversies don't work for him. the communication between flynn and the vice president, and the vice president going out telling the american people that there was no communication about sanctions between flynn and the russian officials. you also have democrats of course calling for flynn's resignation, calling for the release of the transcripts of those conversations. we haven't seen outcry from the republicans. >> how much does this undermine the ability of these three men to work with each other in the white house? i know that's a little speculative. >> the issue of trust when it

pertains to national security has implications. trust involving your national security advisors that's a really big deal, not only here but the signal it sends around the world. >> you talked about the democrats in terms of their investigation and the fact they want to see general flynn either step down or be fired from the white house or the nobody else council. what tools do they have to create pressure on the white house to address this issue? >> there are currently investigations of course led by ren committees because republicans control congress into the relationship between the trump campaign at the time and russian officials. we haven't seen much come out of that. democrats don't have the majority, so they don't have control in terms of enacting these oversight procedures, but

they do have hearings going on and investigations going on and they can encourage the public to get involved. this is a really key issue particularly for this administration because national security is such a key issue at this point in in this administration. >> du believe theresident when he said yesterday on air force one very late in the day, this person consumes a lot of news, this was the dominant story. do you believe him what he said he wasn't aware of "the washington post"? >> it's hard to believe a president that consumes news the way he does did not see this. it would have been an oversight for his communications team not to alert the president that this was going to go. this is hanging overthe administration. at some point they will have to address it whether it's true

what comes out of these hearings or through another avenue. >> we're only three weeks into this administration. >> exactly. feels like three years. >> good to have you. the democratic party still searching for a voice to lead the party. they're meeting today in baltimore. stay with us. e, actually there'. aaaahh!! ooohh!! uh! holy mackerel. wow. nice. strength and style. which one's your favorite? come home with me! it's truck month! find your tag for an average total value over $11,000 on chevy silverado all star editions when you finance through gm financial. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. this is not a screensaver.game. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's

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to retool a little bit in baltimore, for example. ten candidates are vying for the leadership of the democratic party. joining me is nbc news political reporter who is in baltimore. alex, good to talk to you. the field getting pretty crowded. is there a clear other than from in t -- front-runner in the race? >> this is the last public forum before voting happens in two weeks. we're moving to the more private phase, a very insider race, only 447 people who actually get to cast a ballot. those are the members of the dnc. right now what's happening is you have two top candidates, that's congressman keith elson

and tom perez. perez comes from it obama, clinton wing. neither of them are going to have enough votes to win on the first ballot. that's at least what all the people are saying. they're going to have to start cutting deals with some of these lesser candidates to get their voters to come to their side. the stuff that's happening on the stage communicating to the grassroots activities activists of the party, and sending the message of the party is supposed to look like. what's happening off the floor when they're having conversations about the candidates about who's going to emerge on the ballot in atlanta. >> there was some criticism between the bernie sanders supporters and the hillary clinton% supporters about the establishment, the partying favoring one turnovover the oth. are you seeing that in the

process now? how clear cut is it when it comes down to who get to vote and is it a simple majority? >> all of the candidates are going to out of their way to stress how much they like each other, they compare it twa family discussion. but there is definitely very real the tension between the establishment and the bernie sanders wing as well. not so much about ideology. they don't set policy for the party or how members of congress should vote but what kinds of people are going to have going to be hired in different positions, how they will raise money, the tactics and posture that the party is going to take. that is very much a real tension that's happening. as far as the voting two weeks from now, they're going to get together these 447 members. they will cast one round of ballots. if no one gets to 50%, they'll

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>> that pitch from kellyanne conway one of the president's top advisor in the white house you saw there prompting ethics complaints from both sides of the aisle. donald trump wrote my daughter rooechk has been treated so unfairly by nordstrom. while sean spicer said kellyanne conway has been counseled but defend the president. >> he ran for president, he won, he's leading this country. and i think for people to take out their concern about his actions or his executive orders on members of his faerjs he has every right to stand up for his family. >> the incident is raising questions about whether trump is using the office of the president to support his family's business. another tweet from the president. i'm so proud of my daughter ivanka to be abused and treated so badly by the media and to

hold her head high is wonderful. mr. payne it's great to have you with us. let's talk about the effect of donald trump's tweeting. what does president trump tweeting negatively about nordstrom have on the company itself? >> i can see that the stock actually might be performing quite well because a lot of consumers see right through this, but this is an abuse of power by the president and also by the press secretary. for him to say kellyanne conway was counseled but turns around the president's attack on in order -- in ordnordstrom. whether they are capable to

separate is it interest of the trump business empire from the presidency because everything we have seen, the interests of the trump business empire which the president refuses to divest of and his psychological attachment to the trump empire he doesn't seem to be able to focus on being president for the good of the country. now the japanese sprooirms here today down there at mar-a-lago. i hear the membership dues of mar-a-lago have doubled. enough is enough. i think simply blaming kellyanne conway and singling her out is not what this is all about. this is a problem with this administration that goes to the very, very top. >> as a former legal advisor, what do you recommend folks do, congress do, what do you want to see done in terms of specific actions? >> i want to see the president divest himself of ownership interest in his business enterprises, particularly those

portions of the business enterprises that are receiving money from foreign governments in violation of the constitution. i want to see the president stop promoting his business enterprises and those of his family, using his official position, the press secretary should not be. >> yes, sir into the fray here. nobody else should be using the white house to support the trump business enterprises. this is just wrong. it's happening every day, a new variation of this theme. >> from your legal expertise, can you see any laws that have been broken specifically that you can say specifically this law has been broken? >> it's quite clear to me that their foreign government payments coming into the business enterprises owned by the president. they're in violation. constitution. he will not disclose the extent of the financing arrangements that has. we know the bank of china and

some others. we don't know about all of them. we know foreign governments are scrambling to book rooms at trump hotels. then we have all this what happened last week where the president is going to use the power of the white house to go in there and beat up on nordstrom and say look, you better be doing business with the trump family or else i'm going to hammer you. now everyone knows that nordstrom is a persona non grata. that's not the way things work in the united states. that's unacceptable. groh congress medes to start to investigate, finite out what's going on and shut this down and make sure the president is doing his job for the american people. if he doesn't want to do that, he can step down and mike pence can do the job. >> great to have you with us.

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. i'm ayman mohyeldin at msnbc world headquarters. it's 7:00 here in new york. president trump just ashort time ago wrapping up dinner with japanese prime minister shinzo abe in florida. they spent part of the day on the golf course discussing the issues. >> meanwhile protests around the controversial travel ban. following the arrest of hundreds of unauthorized immigrants during ice raids, fears are growing in the immigrant community. president trump's immigration policy is drawing battle lines for heated