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just after 1:00 in the east and 10:00 a.m. in the west. one of president trump's senior policy advisers appearing on just about every talk show this morning including this particularly tense exchange of voter fraud and the election. >> you've provided absolutely no evidence and the president has made a statement. >> the white house has provided enormous evidence with respect to voter fraud and with respect to the people being registered in more than one state and dead people voting and non-citizens registered to vote. george, it is a fact and you will not deny it, that there are massive numbers of non-citizens in this country who are registered to vote. that is a scandal. >> for the record, you've provided zero evidence that the president was the victim of voter fraud in new hampshire. hold on. you've provided zero evidence that the president would have won the popular vote if 3 to 5 million illegal immigrants had voted. thanks for joining us this morning. >> also new reaction and the

president's brief comments following north korea's ballistic missile launch and here's what sarah huckabee-sanders told me in the last hour. >> we're paying attention and we're watching this and we support japan. i don't think there was a mixed message. i think it was clear and concise. no reason to use a thousand words when you only need ten. i don't know how you can be more public than to stand on stage as he did last night directly next to the leader there and make such a bold claim that we're 100% behind them. >> also today senate minority leader chuck schumer with neil gorsuch. >> i sat with judge gorsuch, and i said show me you're independent. he said i am independent. i said show me. i asked him specific questions that he should answer. these are not about existing cases. i had an eerie feeling that i was sitting just the same as

judge roberts when he was a judge. he wouldn't answer any questions. i asked him would he publicly condemn what president trump did with the existing judge which any judge worth his salt should do? he refused. he said to me i'm disheartened. his handlers were sitting there and they whispered you can make that public. so this was not -- you can't behind closed doors whisper to a senator and then not say anything. >> let's bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell. she's in west palm beach not too far from president trump's home mar-a-lago. kelly, good day to you. what else are we hearing from the senior policy adviser and this is with the president tweeting on a range of topic. >> reporter: for the president this is a mix of recreation and working day in florida. he has gone to his golf course to have some time. we don't know exactly that he was golfing, but one would presume that and at the same time had scheduled meetings today at his mar-a-lago home

including with the incoming secretary steve mnuchin, and steve wynn, the finance chair for the republican national committee and the president will also be meeting with some law enforcement officials. he used twitter early today to talk about everything from media criticism to questions about deportations that have been going on and about the influx of those that were refugees in the process of vetting who came into the country after the court acted to stop the travel ban. a lot of different message topics from the president today, and from stephen miller who is the sort of official administration person sent out to appear on sunday talk shows. there's often one or two designated each weekend especially when there's a lot in the news. stephen miller was that person today and one of the areas where he had another contentious back and forth is his suggestion that the court that rendered a ruling stopping this travel ban that

miller himself was a big part of helping the president craft, that that court went too far. here is mill or "meet the press" today. >> we've heard a lot of talk about how all of the branches of government are equal. that's the point. they are equal. there's no such thing as judicial supremacy. what the judges did both at the ninth and at the district level was to take power for themselves that belongs squarely in the hands of the president of the united states. the bottom line is that a district judge, a district judge in seattle cannot make immigration law for the united states, cannot give foreign nationals and foreign countries rights they do not have and cannot prevent the president of the united states from suspension. >> reporter: you get that that is the hard line the white house maintains that the president has this kind of power both given to him by congress and the constitution when it comes to national security, when it comes to admitting non-citizens to the

country. they still feel very strongly that on those merits, their travel ban is lawful and would ultimately win, but they acknowledge that there are different steps the white house could take as early as tomorrow, continuing the legal challenges and continuing the travel ban that has been the subject of controversy and providing a new one that is reworked and retooled with the benefit of knowledge of the things that have transpired in the last couple of weeks that that could come this week. they haven't given us a clear point of the next steps and they've given us guidance from the president and top advisers that they think they have a number of different paths they can follow to work on this issue and to make it a big priority and they plan to keep doing this. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you very much from west palm beach. let's bring in former new mexico governor bill richardson. he served as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. during the clinton administration and wearing that hat today, with a welcome to you. let's start with north korea's missile launch.

your experience dates back all of the way to the '90s. do you think this test launch was about sending a message to the u.s. and if so, what's the message? >> well, what the north koreans are doing is they're testing donald trump and the new administration. they're testing to see what their response would be, and at the same time, though, this is not a crisis. this is a provocation, the short range, intermediate range missile and 500 miles. it is provocative, but it's not a crisis. now you know, i've been critical of president trump and has early foreign policy decisions, but i think his response, brief yesterday was the correct one. he keeps his options on the table. it was a response that did not overreact. he kind of keeps the north koreans guessing because the north koreans are testing him, and so this is a serious issue, and we need to work closely with our allies, japan and south

korea. we need to get china to do a lot more than they're doing to pressure north korea. we probably need to develop that missile system, the defensive missile system, but at the same time we've got to try something new with north korea. we have to try a new policy, and the president has kept his options open. >> the president's deputy press secretary has said to me that north korea may have been trying to elicit some sort of response and it was a provocation and he didn't take the bait. do you think that's exactly right? you're saying he did the right thing and said the right thing. >> well, yeah. he said the right thing by not saying anything. standing behind japan 100%. this was a good visit by the japanese prime minister. the whole issue of japan, south korea, china, it was recouping some mistakes the president made by saying that japan needed to pay more, that japan and south

korea may want to develop nuclear weapons and the defense secretary's trip to the region was a good one. so i think his response on north korea, i've dealt with these guys a long time. you want to keep them guessing, and i think if we had immediately denounced the provocation, which it was a provocation, but keep your options open, wait and see and get your adviser together and develop a new policy that restrains north korea, but i think also we seem to forget, alex, we have an american there, a young man who has been sentenced to 15 years. we need to get him out. what i would do is use that humanitarian gesture, a twie bring the two countries together by talking about humanitarian issues like the release of otto warmbier. there's just no response from north korea.

>> what do you think north korea worries about the most with regard to the u.s.? >> well, they have to worry about a military strike on some of their installations. they have to worry about that. they are determined to get their nuclear capability to develop a long-range missile. they probably have 15 nuclear weapons right now. they see that as their main card and foreign policy. if they're going to trade eventually for some kind of relief, humanitarian relief, end of sanctions, end of the state of war. that's their big card. so they want to preserve that. they also want to keep everybody on their toes. the japanese, the south koreans. south korea is having internal problems and they want to keep china who they're really not afraid of from putting real pressure on them. i think this notion that china's

going to help us put pressure on north korea is not working. so we need to develop a new policy, and i think the president, you know, i've got to give him credit. i've been critical, that keeping the options open and not overreacting, staying cool, getting back to washington and finding new ways to deal with them is the right way -- the right message. >> okay. glad for that interpretation on the actions there. let's talk about the immigration and your experience as new mexico governor. i've got 160 undocumented immigrants arrested in california alone in immigration raids this week. we are told 75% of those arrested had felony convictions. what do you make of the criticisms aimed at the president over the claims? do you think the claims are misguided or are the raids misguided? >> well, i think both situations are very troubling. one, look, immigrants that have felonies, that have criminal records, we all want them out,

but there have been numerous cases. there was one woman deported recently who was not a felon. there are many cases where bad documentation, bad data is there. the raids send a very bad message to an america that is inclusive of immigrants including here on the border, including in new mexico. this is a source of all these demonstrations around the country. it's not just the travel ban involving muslims. it involves hispanic people. it involves immigrants from central america, from mexico and haiti. these are very unfortunate situations that are just dividing the country. >> yeah. we have demonstrations here and all over the world and a couple in mexico city getting going just today. with regard to one woman she technically was a felon. she made up and falsified a social security number to get work. she'd been in this country 21 years and came when she was 14, had a couple of kids.

do you think it's going to take closer scrutiny? maybe she was a felon technically speaking, okay, but is that the kind of person we want deported to mexico as she was done this week? >> no because that's cruel. that's a human rights problem. she has no home in mexico. her family is here. you're splitting up families. she made a mistake on some of those voter rolls, okay. there should be a fine of some kind, but to deport her, get rid of her and divide her family. that's not america. that's not our country and this is why these raids and this immigration policy of the president is so negative and so destructive. >> the president suggested he might issue a new executive order on immigration this week after the appeals court ruled reinstated his travel ban there. will his next step inevitably be opposed and do you see a path accepted by both parties? >> well, i don't see a path forward because i think he's

made a commitment to his tea party supporters that he's going to pursue this. he's going to have to go back to the supreme court, i think with a new travel ban that perhaps emphasizes bet vetting. i'm all for stronger vetting, but to be so indiscriminate to bar individuals from the seven countries no matter what makes very little sense. it was poorly drafted and i think if it takes some of the obama administration's guidelines on proper vetting and proper documentation, on stronger homeland security participation involving muslim communities in the united states to really find those that have those potential terrorist ties, but i don't think he's going to do that. he's committed to this travel ban which i think is -- is not just policy wise a mistake, but is seriously dividing his country and it's going to affect a lot of the initiatives he's going to take in the congress on

other issues like the affordable care act, like an infrastructure bill. a lot of these issues are going to languish because there's so much division over this travel ban. he should just scrap it altogether. all right. former ambassador, governor and secretary bill richardson and always good to have you on the show, bill. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> rallies are scheduled nationwide in support of refugees including one that upon w wrapped up in new york city. let's get to morgan radford. what was the message here? >> reporter: alex, the message was an interesting one. we were at the jewish rally for refugees put on by the hebrew immigrant aides society. it just wrapped up within the hour and we saw hundreds of people packing battery park and they were saying effectively president donald trump's travel ban is an affront to family values and we had mayor bill de blasio. take a listen. >> we stand against president

trump's executive order. we stand unified and let us note, the constitutional system is still functioning, brothers and sisters because our judiciary made very clear. they said to president trump, no, you can't. >> reporter: their message, alex, was that at these same shores you can see the statue of liberty onnelis island in the devilan distance and they said jewish people weren't well come and they can explain the history the jewish people is one of inclusion especially those fleeing persecution. take a listen to a rabbi who i interviewed here. >> the only danger that we really fear is from him, the administration in limiting, turning back the clock to a dark time in this country when we treated refugees, our own parents, grandparents who were denied entry for so many of us

in the jewish community. we know that we lost family in europe because there was a time in this country where jews were unwell come. . >> reporter: in the end, alex, hundreds came out in rain and hail to say that refugees are welcome here. al sneks. >> morgan radford, thank you so much for bringing us that report. you can see the way morgan's dressed. the northeast is getting another big blast of winter and in some areas they will feel like a blizzard. that's next. tech: at safelite, we know how busy your life can be. mom: oh no... tech: this mom didn't have time to worry about a cracked windshield. so she scheduled at safelite.com and with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" she knew exactly when i'd be there, so she didn't miss a single shot. i replaced her windshield giving her more time for what matters most. tech: how'd ya do? player: we won! tech: nice! that's another safelite advantage. mom: thank you so much! (team sing) safelite repair, safelite replace.

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for the second time in just a matter of days, parts of the northeast are preparing for yet another wintry wallop and in some areas it will feel like a blizzard. here is a picture from hartford, connecticut.

it is definitely snowing there. let's turn to rich johnson with the weather channel. good day to you. what's it going to look like out there? ? for us in the northeast it is going to be a snowy day today, but by later tonight into monday that's when the winds will really be picking up. right now as we look at our advisories from winter storm orson we have warnings from down east maine and right along the coast down through nantucket there is actually a blizzard watch. for you in boston, we are looking at winter storm warnings and a blizzard watch. snow moving across new york state and eastern new york state and rain on the coast and farther north and west up to caldwell and a mixture of freezing rain and some snow. over to boston, just a slight area of snow and you move outside to the west and that is where the snow is coming down heavily. how much snow are we looking at in the it appears that the heaviest snow will appear across maine, new hampshire and north

and west of boston and we're looking for the winds to pick up especially as we go into late tonight and a good part of tomorrow. some of those winds could be gusting over 50 miles an hour especially on the coast of maine. that's the way it's looking, alex. >> yikes. very windy. okay. thank you so much. appreciate that, rich. let's get reaction from one of the president's senior policy advisers pushing back on criticisms after hundreds of undocumented immigrants were arrested during a series of raids during this past week. >> if people don't like the immigration laws of the united states they can reform them. >> all right. our emphasis is on removing criminal aliens who pose a threat to public safety. i want to say this, there's been a lot of coverage on the news of these enforcement actions on people here illegally and that's an issue people are free to discuss but what should be discussed is the american lives being saved because we're taking enforcement action. >> a bit earlier president trump took to twitter to say the crackdown on illegal criminals

is merely the keeping of my campaign promise. gang members, drug dealers and others are being removed. political reporter for the new york times and caitlin hughey, always good to see you both. good to see you both in-studio. in listening to stephen miller this morning did you get a better understanding of his role in the white house? >> i was fascinated and glad that he said that we're allowed and free to discuss the president's immigration policy. >> gripping with sarcasm. >> we are allowed to discuss it here and in this country. i think miller is deep in the hard line faction and the fact that he was offered up on the sunday shows shows that that faction is the ascend antoiant d that's a message of trump's promise to his voters until tuesday when they put out a new

policy and a superseding order to try and fix some of their problems in the order order. >> did you, caitlin, get anything in terms of listening to stephen miller today about how president trump makes decisions and whom he listens to and how he approaches issues? >> stephen miller has been a part of this group with president trump since the very beginning. stephen miller used to be the pep talk at the rallies and has been a close adviser and a protege of jeff sessions who as we know has really close ties with this president and what was interesting about immigration is he said -- he didn't answer chuck todd's question about whether there is priority to, what criminal intentions there are in terms of immigrants being here? is it criminal to just be here illegally? we're not sure what the priorities are there, and also when it comes to general flynn, it was really interesting because stephen miller is out there on all of the sunday shows as the representative of the

administration saying that they did not have an opinion right now on general flynn and what he should be doing and what's interesting is we saw the president on friday say he didn't see the news reports and he didn't come to flynn's defense either in that comment. so you're having stephen miller out there drawing an interesting line on flynn. >> last hour, nicholas, i spoke to sarah huckabee-sanders, and we were talking about the abbreviated comments on the missile test last night. what do you think the calculus is there, do you think it was wise to not use strong language? sarah defended the president's language saying it's obvious where he stand, but the prime minister of japan said it was absolutely intolerable, pretty harsh words. >> i think we're seeing caution on that point. it's an important policy point. it's a very dangerous and serious matter and they were

caught a bit by surprise and they were there in that meeting with the prime minister of japan, and they came back out after putting a lid on the day's events saying there was no more news and they came back out and said there was going to be a speech or brief remarks, and i think there was a surprise element there for them and they were adjusting to it rapidly and they chose caution which makes some sense. >> okay. stephen miller always took up the issue of election fraud. let's take a listen to what he said on that regarding new hampshire specifically. here it is. >> there are massive number was non-citizens in this country who are registered to vote. that say scandal. we should stop the presses, and as a country we should be aghast about the fact that you have people who have no right to vote in this country, registered to vote, canceling out the franchise of lawful citizens of this country. that's the story we should be talking about, and i am prepared to go on any show, anywhere any time and repeat it and say the president of the united states is correct 100%. >> really, caitlin?

is that the issue we should be talking about? because he was elected, overwhelmingly so by the electoral college. he is serving as president of the united states, why are they keeping this foremost in the public eye. it is so baffling, right? and the president continues to talk about this in conversations, privately with senators. we saw that earlier this week talking about new hampshire, of course, but what the administration continues to do is continuing to inflate outdated voter roles with voter fraud every time they're asked for evidence of voter fraud they point to these outdated voter rolls and that's something completely different and so they haven't been able to provide any evidence and they haven't provided an executive order on this and they said that they would investigate this. we haven't really seen tangible steps to do so, but continuing to talk about it, the president has -- represents some insecurities that the president has in regards to losing the

popular vote in this election. >> what's your interpretation of all of this. >> just to be clear what stephen miller said today is a lie. there isn't evidence of it and it's not true and he keeps repeating it and it is not true. they are inflating people who are on voter rolls who includes steve bannon and people in the trump family with voter fraud and the president looks at the popular vote as ratings. i think it eats away at him and he did not win the popular vote and it's critical to his sense of self as a winner and a victor that there had to be something going on and we will see this white house keep going with this fiction which is not true about massive legal immigration fraud. it's not true. >> nicholas confessory, thanks to you, as well. >> we'll talk about the weather and the undocumented immigrants with no criminal records among hundreds arrested in last week's government raids and should

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beyond. natural pet food. welcome back, everyone. i'm alex witt here in msnbc world headquarters in new york. at 32 past the hour, here's what we're monitoring for you. keeping an eye on the weather from upstate new york to northern maine, it is already snowing as you are about to see there. forecasters are predicting blizzard conditions at 50 mile an hour wind gusts and snow fall up to 16 inches. more politics now as we get more reaction today from the trump administration to the recent series of raids conducted by federal immigration agents. president trump tweeted the crackdown is keeping part of his campaign promise despite i.c.e. officials saying it was before the trump orders. we spoke to sarah huckabee he

huckabee-sanders. >> they're doing their job. they have an administration getting out of the way and letting them do that. president trump has been very vocal throughout the campaign and now as president that he will support the law enforcement and providing what they need in the country. he's being supportive of them and they're able to uphold the law, carry it out and do their jobs. >> joining me now, msnbc and professor of mexican-american studies, victoria de francesco. >> these sweeps are disturbing and any sweep is disturbing when you see the prospect of folks being separated from their family members, but i do want to put it into perspective, alex, because these are not new. one of the large-sdal sweeps took place under the obama administration where we saw a similar number of people being apprehended by i.c.e.

for me the most disturbing thing is not the raids which is pretty common, but the change that the trump administration has made and who is being considereded a criminal. under the obama administration it was a narrower definition, now under trump's executive order we see someone who has deportation order is considered a criminal. so that category of criminal is a lot wider and so when i.c.e. is undertaking these warrants and these surges, they are casting a very wide net and picking up someone who maybe has a misdemeanor or traffic misdemeanor or deportation order. this, to me, is most troubling. in terms of whether the numbers are going to vary, it's still too soon to see, but that's what i'm watching. >> so with i.c.e. saying this is routine enforcement and you have the president now taking credit for this, so what is the truth? which is closer to the truth? >> right.

so i think that the president's tweet ties in to the growing fear and quote, unquote, hifter why we're seeing in the immigrant community because people are flat-out terrified of what is going to happen. are these sweeps going to escalate? and i think that when president trump comes out and tweets this early in the morning it just fuels the fire and it fuels the fear. instead of saying, hey, i'm following the orders that have been in place for numerous years and i'm doing what the law sets out to do, he comes out and just kind of pokes immigrant advocates in the eye. so we have to separate out the emotion from it as the fact and trump is not helping the emotional part of calming nerves and rather just saying, you know what? we'll come after you. >> to your point of this being a continuation of that which has been going on pretty consistently, during the president's time in office, and i mean president trump 2 million people were deported and at once

being dubbed the deporter in chief by critics. >> is this more about policy or the person enforcing it? >> we're going to have to wait and see, alex. we're not even a month into trump's administration. i think you know, once we get another three, four months in we can do a side by side comparison of numbers. we know in 2016 that about 200, 220,000 folks were deported, foreign nationals under i.c.e. sweeps. are those numbers going to add up with the trump administration, but to your point about the style, we definitely see a departure in style with trump just kind of saying we're about law and order and we don't care about breaking up families because we need to first implement the law and there's a different style about the obama administration which is pretty silent at least publicly on the issue of deportation and the immigration sweeps. >> victoria defrancesco at the university of texas, good to see you. thank you. >> thanks, alex. the fear factor and what it

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you have provided absolutely no evidence. >> the white house has provided enormous evidence with respect to voter fraud and with respect to people being registered in more than one state. dead people voting and non-citizens being registered to vote. george, it is a fact and you will not deny it, that there are massive numbers of non-citizens in this country who are registered to vote. that is a scandal, and i am prepared to go on any show, anywhere, any time and repeat it and say the president of the united states is correct 100%. >> that is trump senior policy

adviser stephen miller defending the president's claim earlier this week that he would have won new hampshire in november if, quote, thousands of voters hadn't been bussed into the state from neighboring massachusetts. let's bring in charlie sykes host of "indivisible," and an msnbc contributor. welcome back, charlie. it's good to talk with you. what do you make of this exchange? >> i just want to know who will play him on snl next week? what a choice by the trump administration to push stephen miller out when they have credible spokesmen on this. this was a cringe-worthy performance, and you can tell that stephen miller has only one audience. he is playing to donald trump, somebody proving that he is the loyalist possible spokesman, but what you have the intersection of inexperience, incompetence and zealotry, and the fact that he is doubling down on something that is clearly just not true. look, if there is a real problem with voter fraud and let's

address it in some coherent and competent manner and they've decided to push out this baseless charge, this flat-out lie and they are doubling down on it, and maybe now it will become the ultimate test of loyalty in the trump administration, who is willing to lie the most aggressively on this particular issue? >> you know, it's interesting. you're echoing the sentiments of nicholas confessory of "the new york times", and it was absolutely, flat-out false that what stephen miller is putting out there. why do you think the president and his team are still arguing voter fraud? first of all, it's three months after the election. he's the president of the united states. >> because he's obsessed with it. we can try to come up with some sort of grand plan here. here's an administration that ought to be talking about obamacare repeal, infrastructure, tax reform, bringing jobs back and yet on a daily basis they undermine their own agenda. they have self-inflicted wounds. they distract from it and the only explanation i can come up

with is donald trump is obsessed with the fact that he did not win the popular vote. there needs to be some sort of adult intervention to say move on, mr. president, you're the president of the united states and why are you re-litigating this by telling a demonstrable lie over and over and over again and demanding that your staffers basically, you know, throw their credibility into the bonfire, as well. >> charlie in a "new york times" op ed, titled why nobody cares the president is lying. here's part of what you wrote, by now it would be evident that enemies are imminent to the administration whether they are foreigners, refugees, international bankers or the press. is the public not going to get sick of the president and his advisers just fighting with everyone? >> i don't know. i do think the white house believes they have fundamentally changed the paradox -- the paradigm of the media. they believe, basically, that the conservative media will provide them air cover and will go on the air tomorrow and will

defend stephen miller and will continue to discredit and delegitimize independent sources of information because this is the only explanation for why would the white house continue to double down, dig deeper on these particular issues unless, number one, they feel immunized from the independent media, from the fact checkers and they feel empowered by a conservative media that they believe will be an echo chamber for them. >> what about what happened this morning, we had a democrat weighing in on the president's travel ban. here's his view. >> this kind of ban is -- makes us less safe because it gives a recruiting tool to isis and to other jihadists saying that america is anti- -- is anti-muslim. the syrian refugees, they are fleeing terror. this -- terror is the whole point of terrorists make you

afraid. >> right. >> think that trump and his group are trying to make americans more afraid. i think that's part of how they got elected. >> what is your take on that, charlie? does the refugee crisis make us less safe here in this country? >> well, first of all, he's right. pleased understand that americans were afraid and this is why donald trump won this election because there is concern and legitimate concern about national security. on the other hand, this was so badly done. this was so botched that in fact, i think it will have the opposite effect. there was a reason why president george w. bush made a distinction between islam and radical islam. he worked very, very hard to draw this line, and now that you have the steve bannons and the stephen millers and donald trumps of the world trying to make this conflict into a clash of civilizations, it does, in fact, play into the hands of people like isis. so it is unfortunate that they've handled this as badly as they could, but again, this is central to this administration

and for them to have botched the rollout of this in the first three weeks is kind of an ominous sign. >> charlie sykes. it's good to talk to you. come see me again soon. >> thank you. he's the new super bowl champion, but make winners out of countless children. you're going to meet malcolm mitchell next. ♪ ♪ jon batiste has mastered new ways to play old classics. with chase atms, he can master new ways to deposit checks too. easy to use chase technology for whatever you're trying to master. for over 100 years like kraft has,natural cheese you learn a lot about what people want. honey, do we have like a super creamy cheese with taco spice already in it? oh, thanks. bon appe-cheese!

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here comes a real feel good story. one super bowl champion is taking success from the football kneeled into the classroom. new england patriots wide receiver malcolm mitchell struggled with reading as a kid the he overcame that hurdle becoming an award winning author. he's now sharing his love for reading with school kids across the country by launching the read with malcolm program. joining me now is malcolm mitchell, author of "the magician's hat." i didn't even have to say you were a new england patriot. this is such a great, great story. but i have to ask you before we talk about the reading program, how does it feel to be a super bowl champion? and named to the nfl all rookie

team? >> it feels good. you know sh it's been quite a year. i always say i'm truly blessed and fortunate to have the opportunity to be drafted by such a great organization. you know, i was just a little piece to a much bigger puzzle. >> you made some pretty fine catches last sunday. let's get right to this here. it's very personal for you reading, malcolm. you say when you started college in georgia, you could only read at a june juror high levnior hi >> growing up, most of my focus was on athletics. sports dominated. i looked at school being a place i had to go to play the sport i love. and instead of school being a, you know, a place where i could learn and grow as an individual and just happen to play a sport. and over time, you know, i suffered because my focus was never on educating myself enough

thrive. >> and i know that you were invited to a lady's reading group, a book club. you joined them. and you were certainly not the typical person to join that group. but they loved having you. it really got you going. and you have now started this read with malcolm program. and you're encouraging doidz read. i know that you're hosting a lunch next week, i think friday next week to try to get people shoved. how does the program work? >> so the program is basically, you know, myself and, you know, other people who work with me, we partner with donors or anybody who is encouraged and wants to help the cause. and try to get the books in the hands of kids and schools. the main problem that i learned when i started indulging in all of this is kids don't truly have the opportunity to pick up a book even if they wanted to. you know, there's -- there is a 68% of kids that don't even have age appropriate books in their homes. so that's onest ways we want to

close the gap. and i also try to go into schools and have what we call reading rallies to try to pump them up, get them motivated. you know, reading -- it can be looked at as being boring or dull. but, you know, there is truthly a magical experience if somebody just takes out the time and really tries to enjoy it. >> magical. you talk about the magician's hat. i want to tell folks here, it's a great book. you basically tell kids it is magical and you can make your dreams come true by reading. and you illustrate it beautifully in this book. i love it. but let me just before i let you go here, malcolm, i want to talk about your teammates making headlines. i think it's at least six say they're going to skip the visit to the white house. of course, that's a tradition for super bowl champions with no date set thus far. how about you? are you concerned about your teammates' decisions no to the go? >> i think the best thing for me to do when you ask that question is kind of -- you know, keep it all positive. i have no perspective on the

decision that's my teammates make. you know, most of them are much older than i am anyway. and this to each his own. some will go, some won't. >> that's a good answer. i'm betting you're going to go and you'll have the book in your hand. that is a wrap of this interview and the show, everyone. i'm alex witt. "meet the press is next. om and with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" she knew exactly when i'd be there, so she didn't miss a single shot. i replaced her windshield giving her more time for what matters most. tech: how'd ya do? player: we won! tech: nice! that's another safelite advantage. mom: thank you so much! (team sing) safelite repair, safelite replace.

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