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who is at the rally. mariana, what does the crowd lock like there? >> reporter: stephanie, i just want to you look at this street where i'm standing now this simpson symbolizes the state of the nation in a way. on my right, people protesting donald trump, protesting this campaign rally he is holding here. they have been organized by a facebook campaign called resist donald trump, president trump at melbourne airport. there are at least 100 people to my right. want you to look on this side over here. to my right again, on this side, you see donald trump supporters, thousands of them, streaming in to watch president trump address these crowds directly. there are thousands of people. the doors opened about half an hour ago. but they are still trickling in, stephanie. for this event, 9,000 tickets were made available and they all completely sould sold out. we spoke to a cop a little while

ago. i mean there are dozens of thousands of people at the donald trump even. many have come from other states. many have driven hours tous just to be a here and hear from the president directly. this is, there is no doubt a campaign event. it was referred to as a campaign event by press secretary sean spicer. it was advertised. it was organized by donald trump's campaign site. and of course it's being held at an airport in a swing state like florida. we spoke to many of trump's supporters and asked them if they had a problem with the president campaigning so early for the 2020 election. they said they actually thought that was a way for the president to communicate directly with them which is of course what they love. >> sounds luke those crowds are about as big as they had expected. what are they expecting to hear from president trump? >> reporter: they just want to hear from him directly. actually, many of them told us they want to hear kind the press

conference that he gave this week. they just want to hear him be -- and speak from the heart which is what one person told us. we also spoke to some women who told us they want to hear about health care. there is a big veteran community here as well. many veterans here want to hear what donald trump will do for veterans. but many of them, especially in a swing state like florida where he campaigned for so long they just want to hear from hymn directly, want to have that direct contact. and that message that the president has been sending out lashing out against the news media, calling us fake news, that has resumed with many people here because many people have been telling us ever since we got on the ground here that they don't want to hear about donald trump through us. they want to just hear from him directly. and that's what they are going to do today. stephanie. >> mariana atenseio, thank you very much. protest tors are turning out around the country to protest donald trump's policies.

one protest is taking place in los angeles, this one against his immigration policies. gadi schwartz joins me now. what's it like there today? >> reporter: there are thousands and thousands of people. they were expecting 20,000. we have been in a crowd that's been marching for quite some time so we don't know exactly how big it is, but there are definitely quite a few people out here. this crowd i very pro imgrant. in fact most of the signs that you see out here are people in support of their families. right here i have got ashley. this says i march for my dad. one of the things that we heard out here quite a bit is people asking on twitter, on social media, why don't people just do it the legal way? why don't people just get line? ashley, you were telling me, your dad is a gardener. tell me about his story. where did he come from? >> he came from mexico. he came here many years ago to be with me and my brother. it takes a lot of work. it really does.

he has been trying for many, many years to get his green card, to get anything. even any type of paperwork. even any type of help. >> reporter: how difficult is it to get a green card for your father? >> from what i know it takes a lot. it does take time. it takes a lot of money, especially since he is a gardener. sometimes people who immigrate here and take jobs that peep don't want or don't want to do they don't get paid much. and he does live -- he does live in house. he has to pay rent, has to buy food. he comes here to visit me and i brother. and. >> reporter: perfect. >> ashley, thank you so very much, thank you for sharing. that's something we heard time and time again. just a short time ago we were talking to a paralegal. they said they were trying to get some of their family members documents, they are related to them. they live here in the united states. they say it has taken more than five years and they have still not succeeded. a very difficult answer to that question. back to you.

>> goddi schwartz. i want to turn now to dallas where another anti-trump rally has been taking place. jacob wrasse cone joins me now. you have been covering a lot of these rallies. tell me about this one. >> reporter: they are up to 1,000 people at this one. that was earlier today. they have since gone home. the protests changed a bit over the last month since president trump has been in office. the organizers today asked specifically that nobody wear black or cover their faces. they didn't want any of that. we know sometimes when trouble happens it happens because people dressed in that way choose to do things that organizers don't want. the protest was peaceful, and it was like very like goddi said in l.a. immigrant and refugee focused. we saw a lot of those. we saw protests like that at the dallas airports after the immigration ban. we spoke to a number of people who had a similar message like this young man whose parents immigrated from india. >> how can i do any less? how can i ask of myself any less

than what my parents have given up, half their life for? they have worked their bones off. i cap sit by and let this example that they built of hard working immigrants go to waste. i can't let that be tarnished. >> reporter: when you ask what they want to accomplish when they say is they hope president trump is watching for one. but they also hope refugees and immigrants who may feel scared are watching and see thousands of people around the country who support them in their cause. stephanie. >> jacob thanks very much. that was jacob wrasse cone. one question ahead of towed's rally, will the president repeat his claim that the media is the enemy of the president. >> we need you. we need a free press. we must have. it's vital.

if you want to preserve -- i'm very serious now. if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press. without it i'm afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time that's how dictators get started. >> joining me now is republica strategist brandon price bryce, doug thornal of the dccc, and political reporter matthew nussbaum. matthew, let's start with you. those were strong words from mccain. what's your take on that? >> actually i agree with senator mccain. here's the other side of that. unfortunateliest mo of the public has an unfavorable view of not only the media and the press but also congress. most americans did not care for congress. under 10%. i agree with the strategy that says we need a free democracy and free press in this nation

what has made this president strong is the fact he is going directly to the american people. >> matthew, i mean, is maligning the entire press corps really strategy? is that something that he should pursue? >> well, i think it's worked for him so far. so that's why he continues to do it. it obviously fires up his base. i animates them. it fires up conservative media. they were cheering on that press conference. we know that donald trump likes to have a foil. like to have an enemy. hillary clinton is gone. he needs somebody and the press has proved a useful target for him. it gets the 30, 35% of people who are excited about donald trump, it keeps them fired up. whether or not that helps moderates to like him more i think that's an open question. >> doug, back to today's rally, this really plays to trump's strengths. obama did this kind of thing from time to time as well. why is this different? is it at all? >> no, look, i think this administration is on the ropes.

tactically i think it's probably a good idea for trump to do an even like this. it has had a really bad two or three weeks in his administration. this past week was probably one of the worst with puzder withdrawing, flynn resigning. you had the replacement for fln tn down the job. he has had -- he suffered i think a tough week. this is type of event that i think can help restore morale to the white house and maybe help give trump a bit of a jump in his step because right now look he is a very unpopular president. gallop has him at 40%. they have got to figure out something to do. i think this is the in case of emergency break glass strategy right now. they really need to figure out how to regain the narrative. >> brandon, this rally today, the press conference on thursday -- is this, the president, trying to get control

of his first 100 days? >> well, i think you just said it. the first 100 days is literally going to decide if those folks who took a chance on donald trump will be pulling approximate lever again for him in 2020. let's be clear. this president, unlike any president ever before is a tv reality president. whereas most presidents would run, the media actually makes him stronger, the more he can touch the american people the more people want to tune into donald trump. >> to that point, i think issue for trump is not so much 2020 but 2018 with mid-terms and also his agenda he is trying to push over the next two years. repealing aca is something he wants to do, tax reform. he has to send a message to republicans that he is strong, that he is running a competent administration. right now they are not seeing that. if he wants any demts democratic support for any of those initiatives he has to be viewed

in some ways as a person that they have to be scared of. back in some of these tough states that they are running in. right now i don't think anyone is scared of donald trump or his administration or think he is tough or think he is competent right now. >> reince priebus yesterday said there is no better messengeror donald trump than trump himself. does that make it easier or yarder to work with others in this administration. >> democrats haven't been able to crack the code with this guy. there is a lot of energy in their base. he won the election. despite all these controversies he keeps plowing ahead. what we will see today is donald trump having fun. he likes going out on the stump, likes the adoring crowds. likes bragging about his victory attacking democrats and hist media. i think he krz himself the bess messenger of his administration and he is going to go out there

and deliver it the way he wants to deliver night do you think he is making progress on his initiatives? >> that's the huge question. there is a lot of frustration i think on capitol hill that instead of talking about tax cuts, obamacare repeal we are talking about donald trump's tweets, about him calling the media the enemy of the american people. it is a hard for republicans to drive a coherent consistent message when he keeps come out and saying these outlandish things. that might bother republicans on the hill. that might bother some republicans in the white house, but donald trump is having a good time and seems to be enjoying himself when he's out there fighting with the media. >> it certainly seems like misdirection after misdirection. thank you for being with us. brandon bryce, doug thornal, matthew nussbaum. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> let her talk! >> medicare is very important, people. if you will privatize it you will not be reelected. >> i'm not worried about --

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i think a lot of people saw this as a good opportunity and we're happy that he wasn't like lot of other people who aren't willing to consider doing these taun halls or cancel them. there is concern the country is going in the wrong direction, backwards to a time that suspect better for america. >> that was frank bessey at a town hall event held by republican congressman tom reedlier today. the event attracted such a large

crowd it was moved outdoors where reed was met with angry protests. >> i tell you where my positions are. i do not try to dance around the positions based on our positions after we do the study and advance where we are. i do not support taxpayer paying of abortions. and i am pro life. >> congressman reed is hosting a number of town halls today, including one in fillmore, new york, where msnbc's beth fewy joins us live. beth, there have been a number of these kinds of events for members of congress in the last couple of weeks. do you think the congressman was surprised by what he saw today? >> reporter: stephanie, good afternoon from beautiful fillmore in the western part of the state. this is wrapping up a long day for congressman reed. one of four down halls, the one that you referenced this morning extremely raucous.

two after that were rauk us a as well. right now he is in fillmore for his last even of the day. we will be heading over there after we talk to you. it has been an eye opening experience for the congressman. he knew he was going to meet with protesters. he is one of few elected congressmen who have gone through with their promised town hall meetings. protests have been causing council members to cancel much of their town halls even though they are going to be home all of next week for president's week. he was asked positions on the affordable care act, about his plan to help defund planted parenthood. lots of questions about donald trump. reed was one of 11 lawmakers who went to the white house the other day and trump thanked them for their early support.

tom reed's district voted for donald trump by 15 percentage points, it was not close. this is trump country but the trump election woke up a whole lot of people in this jerr who say this is not my guy and tom reed is the guy i want answering for him. here's another issue. he has been saying in some other venues that he thought the people coming to the protests and the town halls in the past were paid activists, paid protesters. i asked him about that today. this is what he said. >> i don't know where they are coming from. i saw some news reports about organized efforts to disrupt and to try to trap us into different positions. but i know who i am. i know what we are trying to do. and we're trying -- because i care deeply about the people here and for people across the country, paid or organized, whatever that's from, the passion is good. this is democracy. >> reporter: and you know, you have got to give him credit.

he came out and met with his constituents when so many other republican lawmakers are apparently deciding to skip it. tom read says he was not bothered by the protest and enjoys engaging in conversations. >> here's the question, was it conversation? did it remain civil? it's good for the democracy if we can talk together but was he shouted over. >> reporter: i wouldn't say he was shouted over. he asked the crowd what they wanted to talk about, who here wants to talk about health care, social? medicare. he reached out and said let's talk about what was on your mind. several people were polite. others less so, shouting and expressing concern. there were chants, trump taxes, and what about russia, thing like. that it was a spirited crowd boo the congressman seemed to take it in stride. >> beth, thank you very much, there is a lot of passion out there. a deadly storm, one of the

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welcome back, everyone. i'm stanley cup final me gosk life at msnbc headquarters in new york. here's what we are following right now. president trump is expected to hold a rally at the top of the hour at orlando melbourne international airport in florida. that crowd right now waiting for the president to arrive. we'll take you there as soon as it begins. norma mccorvey, joan as jane roe in the landmark case row versus wade has died that case established a constitutional right to an abortion. her biographer says she died this morning of heart failure at an assisted living facility in texas. she was 69. sheik rahman convicted of plotting terror attacks in the u.s. including the 1993 world stayed center bombing died today in a south carolina hospital at

the age of 78. rahman was also convicted of a later plot to blow up the holland and lincoln tunnels and other new york city land marks. the trump white house is introducing itself to the world and vowing to hold russia accountable. vice president mike pence making his first overseas visit since taking office addressing the munich security conference. today before appearing with german chance lumbar angela merkel nbc spoke one on one with the vice president where pence offer offeredan a view that opposed president trump's calling nato objects lead. >> due and president trump have same message. >> yes. strong support for nato. and president trump has the same expectation that our partners here at nato live up to their

share of commitment. i wanted to make it clear that president trump's commitment to nato is strong of it's historic. it's important. but to sustain that commitment it's important that our allies live to up to their word even as america does as well. >> lucy cavanaugh is in europe. tell us about the vice president's message inside the security conference. >> reporter: this was mike pence's debut abroad, his first -- pardon me. i'm having some -- i can hear you now. this is my pence's debut in the international raern the first same he has been able to showcase the trump foreign policy abroad. his task essentially was to soothe the fears and the anxiety by the allies, the european allies about what donald trump's

america first policy means for then. there has been a lot of questions about whether trump is still committed to the nato alliance. we heard an unequivocal mike pence assuring europe that united states stands with them that the alliance that has existed for decades stands. more importantly perhaps with the issue of russia. this was to some degree the elephant in the room. donald trump has said a lot of things both as candidate and later as president that has unnerved folks on this side of the upon. he expressed admiration for russia's vladimir putin at a time when russia is literally redrawing the borders surrounding its zaire territories. he has questioned the necessity the sanctions that have been imposed against russia. so we heard a rather tougher message from mike pence about russia's role and what it has to do for example, in conflicts like ukraine. take a listen. >> with regard to ukraine, w

most hold russia accountable and demand that they honor the mink agreements and begin by deescalating the violence in eastern ukraine. know this, the united states will continue to hold russia accountable, even as we search for new common ground which as you know president trump believes can be found. >> reporter: stephanie, i want to apologize to our viewers i'm hearing issues with my sound. but the point here is we heard mike pence talk about how russia has to uphold its side of its commitments. but this is an important thing because again donald trump has raised a lot of questions about whether he actually stands on this. the allies here don't live in a bubble. they have heard the controversy coming out of the white house about the potential contacts between the trump administration and russia. they basically want them to know the united states is on their side that these decades old alliances are still in place.

>> lucy, you navigated the technical difficulties well. lucy cavanaugh in munich. with us from paris, christopher dickey msnbc contribute and world news editor for the daily beast. and in baltimore, steve clemens, msnbc contributor and editor at large for the atlantic. steve, you have the vice president saying he and the president are on the same page on nato yet the president keeps using the word obsolete to describe nato. are they on the same page? how do you know? how can they tell? >> reporte >> newell, mike pence's job is go out and try his best to channel donald trump and try to tell the world things aren't nearly as bad as they think they are. i think general of the maddis was trying to do the same thing in japan recently. but the bottom line is all we

have to go with is what the president of the united states, the one who ultimately decides policy is what he tweets and what he says and how he frames things. right now, his disdainful of many of our alliances and he shakes them up. i do need to give trump credit that in some of the read outs that he has that are kind of boiler played when he speaks to foreign leaders he does speak to the importance of nato and shoring it up. but the fact is he leaves wobbliness in that and that makes foreign leaders nervous. >> i want to read you a tweet from senator chris murphy of connecticut. quote, looks like we have two governments. vrk p just gave speech about shared values as potus openly wages war on those values. do our allies see two governments as well? does russia? >> i think right now russia -- russia's number one strategic objective in the world right now

is to split the western alliance. when you listen to the director of the munich international security conference he said if trump doesn't desist in the kind of comments that he is making about the eu and the transatlantic relationship, it's like a non-military declared war. that's from one of our greatest friends, a former german ambassador of the united states. it's a remarkable turnaround. so what is being handed to russia regardless of values is a split in the western alliance. they're chiefing their objective. and donald trump is delivering it to them on a silver platter. >> it's making a lot of leaders very nervous. christopher let's turn to you. it's not just the vice president that went to germany. james mattis was there yesterday and stake tillerson spoke with his russian counter-part sergey lavrov this week at the g 20 foreign ministers meeting. is the trump administration making headway in rebuilding our

fixed agreements, do you think? >> i think the line that you just mentioned about two governments is for and more of a reality. i think actually support mccain articulated it very well yesterday when he said, to the same conference in munich, that when you listen to general mattis, the defense secretary, when you listen to rex tillerson, the secretary of state, when you listen to general kelly, department of homeland security, when you listen to john mccain, you hear a rational discourse about international affairs, about russia, about ukraine, about all these issues that are very well understood here in europe. when you listen to president trump, you hear something really wildly and disturbingly different. i think that europeans are wondering which government are they talking to? are they talking to the government of tillerson, mattis, mccain, and kelly? or are they talking to the government of donald trump? and i don't think that's clear anymore. so i think that in fact at this

moment the world is in a very, very uncertainty pass because the leader of the free world seems to be wildly out of step with his own cabinet. how long that cabinet will endure, how long his presidency will endure, how long the west will endure is a big question. and that's exactly what the russians wanted, which is exactly where sergey lavrov the foreign minister of russia said today that we were looking at a post west world order. the russians are looking for a new world order in which the west, led by the united states, is negligible. and if the trump presidency, as opposed to the trump cabinet, has -- takes hold, then that obably is going to be the case. >> christopher just very quickly, the very fact they are asking this question of whose message to believe, whether the

president or his administration officials -- i mean, that is damaging in and of itself, isn't it? >> it's disastrous. it's potentially disastrous. i mean, you have the vice president, you have the cabinet, essentially, the key keb cabinet for foreign policy, all here in europe right now making the right noises, saying the right things, and trying to make that synchronize with the president who is tweeting and giving press conferences that are sending absolutely contradictory and often incoherent messages. so, youia, they are damn damned worried over here. they think that donald trump is insane. and they don't know what to do about it. >> insane. there's a word for you. christopher dickey and steve clemens thank you both for joining news thank you, stephanie. president trump moving quickly to fill a major role in his cabinet.

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the nominee for secretary of the department of labor will be mr. alex acosta. he has a law degree from harvard law school. great student. former clerk for justice samuel alito. and he has had a tremendous career. >> president trump moved quickly to find a new labor secretary nominee after his first pick andy puzder withdrew his name. the nomination of the fast-food executive fell apart following scrutiny of his personal history which included allegation was domestic abuse which he denied and his hiring of an undocumented housekeeper. if confirmed, acosta will be the first hispanic to join trump's

cabinet. acosta supported immigration reform which puts him at odds with some conservatives. joining me now, steve liu. thank you for joining us me. >> thank you. >> is acosta a good choice for president trump? >> i don't know. i'm not sure if trump knows. you saw that clip. it sound like he doesn't know what he is. he has long public service record. it needs to be skrit niesed. that nomination was announced less than 24 hours after puzder withdrew his nomination. giving the investigate issues thatrump nominees have had i have questions aboutow carefully they scrutinized the record. >> let me ask you about that quickly. season it possible he was vetted before the original pick was made? >> it is possible. but we know he has written about 125 opinions as a member of the national labor relations board.

he has put his name on numerous briefs when he was at the department of justice. give what we know about how well andy pusner, nooun mnuchin, mull veiny and others were vetted i have comes questions. i think that's the be jo of the u.s. senate and it's why the senate democrats are being so deliberate in their deliberations about these nomine nominees. >> he seems a kind of establishment-like pick for donald trump. do you see him getting a lot of resistance? >> you know, this is really less about alex acosta than it is about donald trump and whether he is going to make good on his promises to help working class americans. so alex acosta i think is really less relevant to whether donald trump is going to push for sensible policies like raising the minimum wage, implementing paid family leave, paid sick leave policies, the things that he ran on as a candidate. >> do you think that acosta will fight for workers' rights?

will they be happier with him in office? >> you know, by all accounts he is an establishment republican. so i don't expect that he will deviate from the traditional conservative position, which haven't been that protective of worker safety, or embracing of common sense policies like the minimum wage but we'll find that out during the confirmation process. >> he is not going to oversee immigration, he is the labor secretary. but he will be overseeing the flow of foreign workers. do you expect changes to the foreign workers' policy? >> a lot of those policies are set by congress. certainly the secretary of labor has discretion now her used. again, i think this is an interesting area where it will be helpful to find out what his position on that flow of workers coming in as oppose to what the president has been talking about. >> and the president has talked a lot about bringing jobs back. what role will acosta have in that process? >> well, the department of lay plays a critical role in training workers for the jobs of the 21st century.

it's ensuring that you not only lift up wages but ensure that workers have a pathway to the middle class. those are questions that are going to be asked of him. it's rightful to ask those questions and also find out, again, what his views are on ij raising wages, which is really the critical issue that is affecting working class americans right now. >> chris liu, thank you very much. >> thank you. the fallout continues after the resignation of national security adviser mike flynn. president trump now look at three potential replacements. what's really going on in the intelligence community. >> a former cia agent will weigh in. way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something...

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that's a live look at orlando melbourne international airport in florida, where president trump is scheduled to hold a campaign-style rally at the top of the hour. he just took off from palm beach in air force one, running about

ten to 15 minutes behind schedule. stay with us. we'll bring it to you live when it begins. a short time ago, white house press secretary sean spicer confirmed president trump will meet tomorrow with at least four candidates to replace michael flynn as national security adviser. they are former u.n. adviser john boulton. lieutenant general robert casseland. junior lieutenant general keith kellen and -- flynn's resignation this week rocked the white house after the president learned flynn discussed sanctions with russia in december despite flynn's earlier denials. the white house confirming this afternoon that david poe trace is out of the running to lead the nsa. "andrea mitchell reports" that former officials say the e cia director and retired four star general made it clear he couldn't take the job unless he picked the staff. that staff, now led by a number of people chosen by flynn.

petraeus wanted to name his deputy and key directors. that was a non-starter with the white house. joining us, lindsey moran. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. want to start with the time line here of how this information made its way out to the public. we know that the intel community went to the white house first about flynn. and then a few weeks went by. and then suddenly the details appeared in the media. what do you make of what might have happened behind closed doors within the intelligence community there? >> well, i think within the intelligence community -- unfortunately, there has been this notion perpetuated recently pie i think by the administration that the intelligence community is kind this rogue outfit that does whatever it wands wants or that it's led by its on political agenda. that's far from the case. there are flaws within the intelligence community, within the cia, within the nsa.

they could be run more efficiently and more effectively. but i think the administration coming in with this incredible diss trust a be in of slaps to the face to the intelligence community directly, honestly, i think what's going none the intelligence community itself is just a great deal of concern about who we have at the helm of the country, is this person going to take seriously or even listen to valid intelligence reports that are -- that come about after sometimes years, months of collection and careful analysis? these are professionals working here and i think that they have been really treated unfairly by the incoming administration. >> and do you think that it was that fear of michael flynn in the position that he was in that eventually pushed some of their hands the release this information? >> i don't think the intelligence community at large has any political agenda. but i think that they have taken

the fall a number of times in the past for very political maneuvers. do i think there are leaks from within the intelligence organization? not as much as trump would have you believe. i think the intelligence community in general, regardless of politics -- and by the way a place like the cia tends to be -- tends to lean pretty far right. so this idea that there is some sort of hillary-initiated conspiracy that exists at the cia, that they are against trump is preposer theous. but i honestly think that as an organization -- or the intelligence communi at large, the cia, the nsa, really all of the people who work from, from the top to the bottom, take very seriously their role in collecting information. not making policy. collecting information that is intended to help policy makers and the administration make policy that's going to keep america safe. so this incredible politicization of the agency and

all the picks i think that has really rattled the intelligence community. >> lindsay, what do you think the president needs to do to improve the relationship? so much damage has been done at this point. >> you are right. so much damage has been done. there have been a number of missteps right from the get-go. even to the point of ignoring intelligence briefs, you know, for a long time trump wasn't even interested in hearing the presidential daily brief. and that is something you know aed lo of people put work into that. and the point of that is to keep the president informed. this idea that the intelligence community would keep things from trump, i don't think that's the case. i do think he needs to take -- he needs to look at what he is going to pick for the nsa, to head the nsa, to consider that person's experience. i think one terrible misstep is the recent announcement that he might have steven feinberg, a billionaire friend of his, conduct a review of the intelligence organizations.

again, yes, we all want the intelligence community to cooperate. we all want it to run more efficiently. we want it to run better. but to bring in a billionaire pal of yours who has a number of defense contracts it feels like another slap in the face to the intelligence community. i would just say there are so many missteps that at this point he really needs to take them seriously. billions of taxpayer dollars go into supporting our intelligence apparatus. we have the best intelligence apparatus in the world despite its flaws. i think the administration did a disservice to itself, a disservice to the american people and a disservice to the community at large by mocking skpilt denigrating it. how you repair that i don't know but it's going to take some work. >> just quickly, have you ever witnessed tension like this? >> no, and i will say -- you know, i said that the cia itself, where i used to work, tends to lean right politically. but i will say, in my time

there, and since i've been there and still have a number of contacts there, it's not a politically charged place. people are really there to do a job. and they don't let politics get in the way of that job, which is to collect intelligence on the operations side and to inform poll sao makers on the analysis side. and when you walk through that door, you really put your personal politics aside. and so i think it's insulting to the community at large, and to all the professionals there to accuse them of being politicized or to accuse them of keeping certain information from the administration. i really think it's preposer outside. we've seen the cia be manipulated in some ways politically in the past. we've seen the entire community be politicized. but never have i seen anything quite this eij griedgeous. >> lindsey moran thanks thank you for your time today. that wraps it up for us this hour here at nbc.

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