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more americans watch nbc news than any other news organization in the world. hey there, everyone. i'm jason sew boar off. welcome to the pulse of america, where your voice can be heard in real-time. here are the stories we want your pulse on today. president trump is set to meet with candidates to replace mike flynn as national security advisor. two men reportedly said not interested because they would not have control over staff decisions. is that kind of white house micro managing is good idea? rex tillerson heads to mexico.
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president trump's plans to renegotiate nafta. republicans in congress are facing a serious dilemma. they promised to appeal obamacare. will the pressure force them to keep parts of the law induct. and do not tell president trump his presidency is off to a rocky start. >> i don't think there's ever been a president elected in this short period of time has been what we've done. >> so do you agree with what the president is saying about his first month in office? voice your opinions on our pulse questions. grab your phone. grab your laptop. log on to pulse.msnbc.com/america. you can vote as often as you like throughout today's show. there is no voter fraud on pulse of america. the president is at his florida
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home today meeting with his four candidates to replace mike flynn. >> the new nsa director can say i don't want steve bannon as a former member of the national security council? >> the president has said very clearly that the new nsa director will have total and complete say over the make-up of the nsc and all of the components of the nsc. those reports that you are citing, those are more fake news stories that are completely untrue. we have never put demands on an incoming nsa director. >> that leads us to our first pulse question of the day. agree or disagree. president trump should allow his national security advisor to make staffing decisions. and as you vote, kelly o'donnell is in west palm beach florida for us. who is the president meeting today and what can you tell us
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about the dust up of staffing protocol. >> good to be with you. one of the things just to clarify when the chief of staff reince priebus and chris wallace for walking, the nsa director is an entirely different job. this is the national security advisor to the president. not a director of anything. so just in case people are confused by that. but the idea here is the president is interviewing with at least four job candidates, with military background and national security experience. some of them are names that are somewhat familiar to us. it includes his acting national security advisor, also former u.n. am bass tor and generals mcmaster and caslen. this gives the president a way to sin the these hot spots around the world. part of the question that's come
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about is would this new person who replaces the ousted michael flynn be able to decide about staffers working on the national security council with him or her presumably? and reince priebus is saying that the president is indicating that person can hire whomever they see fit. but there has been consistent reporting about the fact the white house has some of its own people in place and that they are wanting to control some of the staff around some of these key positions, not necessarily letting people bring in their own folks, so to speak. we're also told that, you know, it is a sunday. he's in his florida home also doing foreign leader calls with at least foreign leaders and having some kind of meeting about plans to retool, replace obamacare with two of the key figures in that, the health and human services secretary tom price and his newly installed office of management and budget director. so he is trying to project that
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there is work being done while he's having this long holiday weekend for the president's holiday and also trying to place someone in a job that is incredibly important in the white house after the abrupt departure of michael flynn for of course the reasons we've talked about, russia, did he talk to the ambassador about improper things. but the white house has sate it is really all about michael flynn not being forthcoming. so for president trump today, i guess it is about meeting candidates, holding job interviews, talking to world leaders. >> and kelly, he is doing it all in what appears to be a polo shirt. thank you, kelly o'donnell in west palm beach, florida. thank you for that clarification. as the president searches for a new national security add vie t sor, the fbi is still
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investigating the old one. president trump denied contacts between his campaign and russia. today white house chief of staff reince priebus echoed that denial. >> can he say definitively that nobody in his campaign, nobody he's been associated with, had any contacts with any russian agents? >> no. first of all, the answer is no. and we don't know of any, any contacts with russian agents. i know what the intelligence committees in the house and the sma senate were told by the fbi and i know what i was told and what i will tell you was that story was total baloney. >> joining me now is chris, ginger gibson and robert tria m trianem. ginger, if the story was total
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baloney, then why would senator rubio tweet after that fbi tweeting he's now partisan there will be a bipartisan investigation. >> this is risky statement for reince priebus to be making. it is the kind of statement that gets played over and over again if anyone finds any shred of the evidence there was communications between that campaign. history tells us when congress looks into one thing, they oftentimes find something they weren't looking for. priebus has to be very confident there won't be anything urned up in that process. >> chris, let me go to you. i want to play a little bit of senator john mccain today. let's all take a look at that. >> there's so many questions out there that we first of all need to understand the parameters of what's happened here. and, so, i would -- i would hold
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off and wait and see what happens. one thing that you and i know from being around this town, from being around washington, there is probably going to be some more shoes to drop. >> can americans be confident that a republican controlled congress can investigate this president thoroughly, if necessary? >> i hope so, and i have to believe so. >> and then before i let you go -- >> more hope than belief. >> more hope than belief. is that sort of doubt surprising coming from someone like senator mccain, who refrained by the way, from criticizing president trump during the campaign, even when he was doubting his credentials as a war hero. >> i think it is the unspoken truth that a lot of republicans, obviously democrats feel in this town. not only just in terms of the potential russian contacts between the trump campaign and key senior officials, but even more so than that, all the other kind of instabilities and chaos
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kind of feeds into this narrative that this is a president who does not have control over his staff, didn't have it as a candidate, doesn't have it as a president. that makes people in d.c., especially when it comes to issues about security, nervous. i will be stunned if there is not some type of investigation. but here is the problem. unless there is a clear smoking gun, donald trump will have another press conference where he will attack democrats, republicans and the press and his supports won't care. they will love it. >> nbc news confirmed craig deer has left the trump white house. "politico" is saying he was dismissed because he criticized the president at a private event. what kind of a chilling event is this having in washington? >> well, i'll say two things. one, the president reserves the
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right to let go anyone that he feels as though is talking off the record about the interworkings of the white house. that is nothing new and quite frankly i'm surprised that staffer would talk off the record or in a private setting about the dysfunctionalty going on in the white house. that's frankly unsubordinate. but it reconfirms a lot of republicans and democrats fears that the president is not in control of his own narrative. and the sad part about this is from the communications standpoint he can control the narrative. he's actually very good at controlling the narrative when he's able to stay on message. he simply just steps on his own message over and over again because there is a lot of good news out there in terms of the economy, in terms of some of the other things, but he chooses to be petty, almost, and go after these narratives that quite frankly don't make any sense. i think that's what makes a lot of republicans and democrats very concerned. but lastly, i take heed in mitch
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mcconnell, who is the republican leader in the united states senate. he said it's very likely there would be some type of investigation into russia, and that gives me great comfort that the other branch of government is looking into something so serious. >> it is interesting he's making this news when he doesn't have to be making the news by dismissing people who are i guess in his eyes insubordinate. let's turn to you, ginger. because my colleague caught up with a few folks who voted for the president. here's what they had to say about everything that went on this week. >> you look at what's happening in germany, you look at what's happening last night in sweden, sweden, who would believe this? sweden, they took in large numbers. they're having problems like they never thought possible. >> so that was obviously president trump talking about an
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incident that did not happen in swed sweden. we'll talk about in a second. but a lot of trump supporters want to see the president succeed and see media and other adversaries fail. what, if anything, can change that perception going forward? >> we know that roughly 30% of the population are going to be trump's base and his supporters no matter what he says or does. those are the folks that show up at rallies. those are the folks out volunteering for him. that's his base. and they're encouraged by what he has to say. but we need to be looking is the folks that don't show up at political rallies that said they couldn't get behind clinton and were willing to give donald trump a chance. that's the kind of people that will be deterred by this chaos, by the rapid changes in staffing and by the press conference we saw this week where he tried to say that there weren't any problems when it was clear that there are. >> it's great to hear from all of you. because we're out of time i just
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want to say, to be very clear, there was no sweden incident. the president tends to put forward inaccurate facts about things, including his electoral clek victory. we'll have lots more to talk about. g ginger, robert, chris, thanks so much. all right. we have been asking all of you, agree or disagree. the repeal of nafta would reestablish trade bar yoriers a not help workers who lost their jobs? 91% agree. 9% disagree. let's break it down by gender as well. the total score 86% agree. 14% disagree after that overall tug of war. we are going to dive deeper into these numbers right after the break. stay with us. we will be right back. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay
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we will have strong borders again. the gang members, bad, bad people. i said it. day one, and they're going out. or they're being put in prison. but for the most part, get them the hell out of here, bring them back to where they came from. >> that, of course, was president trump at his rally last night telling supporters he is keeping his promises on illegal immigration. how is it impacting mexico? forbes reports that government officials in mexico city are looking at legislation that would tax corn imports from the united states and mexico would then buy some of its corn from argentina and brazil. this comes days before homeland security secretary john kelly and secretary of state rex
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tillerson head to mexico. with brings us to our second question of the day. agree or disagree: the repeal of nafta would re-establish trade barriers and not help workers who lost their jobs. joining me now to discuss this is former u.s. ambassador to mexico, james jones. the u.s. is the world's top exporter of corn, 2$2.4 billion in 2014. iowa is the top producer of corn in the united states. so what are the consequences of mexico taxing corn imports and instead importing corn from places like brazil and argentina. >> we sell about $60 billion worth of goods in overall mi economics, mentixico is the uni states's largest market. if we start upsetting the cart,
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it is going to have great consequences for the united states economy and starting with agriculture and mexico doesn't really have to put a tax on u.s. agricultural pructs. they have already ben to open markets with australia, argentina and brazil. so they can get their grain and their meat products are alternative sources. they would prefer to get them from the united states, but there are other sources. and that will be a big hit to u.s. ago gri gull chur. >> nbc news has obtained draft memos details how the department of homeland security plans to carry out president's trump's two different orders on illegal administration and an official tells us at nbc news is white house objected to some of the language. president trump has not rescinded daca. but it is also says criminal
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aliens have demonstrated their -- wouldn't that mean all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. are now subject to deportation? >> yes. they are subject to deportation. but president obama started the deportation process and targeted particularly those who were convicted of serious crimes. and i think president trump is continuing that. there is nothing wrong with that at all. in fact, i hope that general kelly, the homeland security secretary, will be listened to at the white house because he understands the border from his time in the military and what he has said and what makes sense is that it doesn't make sense to build a wall all across the border. what does make sense is to combine a wall with other kinds of devices, electronic and otherwise, to deter illegal
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immigration. and as a matter of fact, the mexican government recognizes the right of the united states to -- to protect its borders against illegal immigration and criminal activities. that's not the question. the question is how you present it. do you do it in a way that insults our neighbors? or do you do it in a way that actually reduces illegal immigration? and let me mention here that right now for the first time in the last couple of years, we have a net migration out migration of immigrants from mexico. in other words, more mexicans are returning home now than are actually coming to the united states. and i think we're making great progress in that regard. another aspect of this is that mexico has become a very strong security partner with the united states. right now mexico apprehends and deports more people on its southern border, people coming
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from central america and countries all over the world trying to get to the united states and they're stopped at mexico's southern border because mexico is working as a partner with the united states. if we insult the mexican people and the mexican government to the point that they decide not to be a partner with us on security issues, that's going to be a great strain on the u.s. border. >> what's the message you want to hear secretary kelly and secretary of state tillerson bring to mexico when they will go there next week? >> first of all, i have great confident in both of them. i thought they were great appointments and if they are listened to at the white house, we will have a stable relationship with mexico, as well as other places ithe rld. the message i would like to hear them say is that we are partners. we have developed a partnership commercially, developed a partnership in security issues. we have developed a partnership in fighting bad crime and drug
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situations and we want to continue that partnership. at the same time, thwe want the to know we have to protect our borders and we will do it that in the best way possible. i think that kind of message will resonate very well and we can continue the positive relationship we have. >> all right. ambassador james jones, thank you very much, sir. we have been asking you at home, agree or disagree, the repeal of nafta would re-establish trade barriers and not help workers who lost their jobs? >> 12% disagree. 88% agree. and now we can break it down by education level. all education levels agree and nearly identical levels on this one and by political party as well. republicans, democrats and independents agree. the final scoreboard on this one, they have it. 88% agree. 12% disagree that the repeal of nafta would re-establish trade
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barriers and not help workers who lost their jobs. now you can make your voice heard on our third poll question. the waive of vocal support for obamacare will convince republicans to keep parts of the law. log on and let's take a look right now at a multi-elt nick unity rally happening in new york city. it's called i am a muslim, too. we are going to take you there live coming up next. ♪ ♪
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just a few blocks from nbc headquarters, hundreds of people are showing their support for the muslim people in a rally in times square. adam, you have been on the ground out there since early this morning. what are people telling you about why they're at this event. >> they're really here to be in solidarity with muslim americans. they say that diversity is so important. it is what makes america great. and if you are going to
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discriminate against a muslim or a jewish american or a catholic american, you are really discriminating against all americans and they say it is so important for muslim americans to be a part of the conversation, to be a part of the fight against terrorism and how helpful they would be in that fight. there have been people here from all walks of life speaking for about two hours now. the mayor just spoke. >> democracy, my friends, we eastern in each generation. we fight to protect in each generation. but what we have to say today is an attack on anybody's faith, anybody's faith, is an attack on all people of faith. >> we grew up learning a stereotype -- >> now, the mayor was saying this is all about misconception and misperception and we need to get to understand muslim americans.
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this isn't a fear rally. it is all about being a love rally. >> adam, what are you hearing as far as calls to action out there? what do the rally organizers say they want to see happen after today? >> it's all about that misperception. they want people to learn more about what it is to be a muslim american, that they are just like all americans and they should really be treated equally. >> adam reese out there on the treats of new york city, not far from here. may see you on the way out. coming up next, a look at how they deliver health care in canada, our neighbors to the north. they say they do it better and for less money. that has lawmakers here in the united states face some very angry constituents demeanding they not repeal obamacare.
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as per ryan, paul ryan, the affordable care act is destroyidestroy ing medicare. i did my own tax finding. that is false. the anything, the affordable care act is helping medicare. >> wow. this was a protester sounding off at a town hall yesterday. one of four different events held by tom reed. crowds were so large that events had to be moved outdoors. angry constituents were looking for answers. many fearful that the gop promised to repeal obamacare could leave them without health insurance. 30 million americans are at risk, which brings us to our
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third question. do you agree or disagree: the wave of vocal support for obamacare will convince republicans to keep parts of the law. the answer is not so clear-cut. but canadians do deliver longer and spend less on health care, so ahead there had to find out why. >> in the united states, if you get sick or injured you are going to want to show up in a place like this, sometimes by helicopter. this is seattle's harbor view medical center where you can get some of the best care in the world. >> what type of patients come here? >> we see everything, actually. >> what you are saying no matter what might happen to you, you come in here and we'll be able to give you good service? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> in the united states, quality health care like this comes at a cost. we spend 17% on health care.
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>> can i ask you what happened? >> i got hit on my bike riding to work. i came in with some fractured ribs, a lacerated spleen and i broke my femur and i did surgery on me yesterday. >> what i'm told about this place is if something like what happens to you happens, something major, this is the place to go. >> you want to be here. >> in terms of insurance and how that works for you, payment was working okay, too? >> i think we're just figuring that out. >> we're just trying to get him better. >> this is your cv scann vrksct? >> yes. >> how much does this something like this cost? >> for the whole center, probably over $1.5 million. >> in an emergency department, is it normal to invest $1.5 million in a ct scanner? >> absolutely. >> americans put all this medical technology to good use. twice as many americans per
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capita got m.r.i.s as our canadians. it's part of the reason we sent $10,000 per year on health care. but all that technology doesn't mean we're living longer. americans rank 42ness in life expectancy, compared to 19th for canadians. so we headed north to find out what they think we are doing work. >> i did not anticipate feeling like i was also coming to the gym. >> you're right. the gym has to be part of the doctor's office. >> this is all about proveneven. >> you don't have to be wealthy in canada to get good preventative care. >> we do a lot of work at hypertension canada to try to get the message out there about how important it is to control blood pressure. and we work with doctors to be aggressive in treatment. >> before you end up in the ct machine? >> that's right, before you end
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up in the ct machine. >> one study puts the rate of hypertension in canada at 19%. while the u.s. is at 19%. >> this is going to be really itchy. >> it's really, really itchy. this is my 40-year-old virgin moment. >> you're telling me this is a way to figure out if i need some kind of preventative treatment to help me. in the u.s., we don't do this. >> this is more of a preventative based approach. >> how much does this cost? >> $13,000. >> but actually, in seattle i saw a cat scan that machine that cost over a million dollars, so this is a good investment on the front end versus is million dollars on the back end, i guess. wow. so that really escalated quickly. it's all grown back incase you
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were wondering, guys. that is meant to detect heart problems early before they come more expensive to treat. i want to bring in beth who has at the town halls yesterday where health care was a big issue. beth, what were people telling you about what they were so frustrated about at these town halls. >> health care was probably the major issue. other things came up, too. but so many people were showing here congressman reed came with health care stories of their own. i interviewed a guy who's daughter is 30 years old, has cystic fibrosis. they are terrified if there is a repeal it is not going to include that lack of caps, you know, permanent caps in terms of how much you can spend on health care. they are terrified -- she's on obamacare and they're terrified she's not going to be able to have that surgery if that change is made to the law.
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>> i saw this fact in canada that the united states spends more money than almost anywhere else and we live our life expectancy is shorter than all these other countries. what alternatives out there to address issues like this. >> it was funny because congressman reed was trying to placate the crowd and he was saying i want to keep the kids on their parents plans until 26. i want to say, no pre-existing conditions. awe the popular stuff. but he said all the rest of this has to go. people are shouting what are you going to replace it with? what's the economic model that's going to allow that to happen? and he didn't have an answer. he was also kind of going toward the notion of privatizing medicare, which really upset the crowd. the notion that there was any change to that law, that, you know, that allows them care into their older years was very, very frightening to these people. >> what is your take of so many people coming out so soon across the country for town halls like
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this and the anger they feel over an issue that was so divisive like obamacare? >> i think it was a wake up call that trump was elected. so they are alarmed about a number of things. but it is the unified governments. they could now make changes to this law. it was all a political talking point for republicans before. now they have the power to do and people on that law suddenly are benefitting from it realize it could be in jeopardy and that's motivating a lot of political participation. >> so this is what's going on out in the country. back in washington the conversation was about repeal and replace, then repeal, then replace. repeal and repair. where do we stand today? >> it's very unclear. president trump told reporters he is going to have a plan ready to go very soon, probably in march. everyone is curious to see what it is. meanwhile, over on the hill, people have floated out trial balloons of possible angles to
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go, but it is so difficult. republicans are realizing that this law is very much even trenched in a lot of places that to take out one piece demolishes the rest. how do you keep those popular provisions? and trump says he wants to keep the stuff everybody likes. it is hard to see an economic model for doing so unless you keep the things like the mandate, the written requirement to purchase insurance, which is the only way everybody can have coverage. healthy need to buy it in order for sick people to get it. >> we have seen rand paul with a plan of his own. what's your take on what's going to happen going forward at these town halls? this issue isn't one that's going to be solved any time soon. what are the consequences more members of congress? >> republicans are realizing their feet are being held to the fire and if something happens that is going to rip health care away from their constituents it is a no-go situation. they are starting to drag their feet a little bit on doing anything extremely gutting to
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the law. they know. they know it's on them if constituents start losing health care. it is a consequence they don't want to face. >> and they are already feeling the feet as you saw yesterday. nbc's senior political editor, good to see you. thanks. we have been asked at home, agree or disagree: the wave of vocal support for obamacare will convince republicans to keep it. >> 70% agree. 30% disagree. let's break it down by age. 55 years and older agree. but other age groups are nor neutral on this. republicans strongly agree. democrats and independents also agree. but not as much. and the final scoreboard on this, again, the question the wave of vocal support or obamacare will convince republicans to keep parts of the law. 78% agree and 28% disagree. stick around because coming up, president trump says the white
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tech: how'd ya do? player: we won! tech: nice! that's another safelite advantage. mom: thank you so much! (team sing) safelite repair, safelite replace. president trump's thursday press conference is still parking very strong reaction. immediately after it ended, news anchors called it remarkable, a due si and amazing. the president said things are running smoothly in the white house, despite reports to the contrary. which brings us to our fourth and final question of the day. do you agree with what president is saying about his first month in office. here is part of that thursday's press conference. >> to be honest, i inherited a mess. it's a mess. at home and abroad, a mess. jobs are pouring out of the country. you see what's going on with all
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of the companies leaving our country, going to mexico and other places. low pay, low wages, mass instability overseas. the middle east, a disaster, north korea. we'll take care of it folks. i just wanted to let you know i inherited a mess. our administration went to work to tackle these challenges. on foreign affairs, we have already begun enormously productive talks with foreign leaders, much of it you have covered to move forward with stability and peace. we have had great conversations with the united kingdom and meetings, izsraisrael, mexico, and canada, really, really productive conversations. i would say far more productive than you would understand.
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we have even developed a new council with canada to promote women's business leaders and entrepreneurs. very important to me and my daughter ivanka. i have directed our defense community, headed by our great general, now secretary mattis. he's every there now to submit a plan for the defeat of isis, a group that celebrates the murder and torture of innocent people in large sections of the world. used to be a small group. now it is in large sections of the world. they have spread like cancer. isis has spread like cancer. another mess i inherited. and we have imposed new sanctions on the nation of iran, who has totally taken advantage of our previous administration. and they're the world's top sponsor of terrorism.
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and we're not going to stop until that problem is properly solved and it's not properly solved now. it is one of the worst agreements i have ever seen drawn by anybody. i have ordered plans to begin for the massive rebuilding of the united states military. i've had great support from the senate. i have had great support from congress generally. we have pursued this rebuilding in the hopes that we will never have to use this military and i will tell you that is my -- i would be so happy if we never had to use, but our country will never have had a military like the military we're about to build and rebuild. we have the greatest people on earth in our military. but they don't have the right equipment and their equipment is old. i used it.
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i talked about it. depleted. it's depleted. it won't be depleted for long. and i think one of the reasons i'm standing here instead of other frankly i talked about we have to have strong military and law enforcement. so we do not go abroad in search of war. we really are searching for peace. but it's peace through strength. at home, we haare gun task of returning fwoechl back to the people. in even each of these actions, i'm keeping my promises. it's what i've been talking about for a year and a half. people are is so you are surpri.
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would one promise after another after yearsticians lying to you to get elected. some of the things i'm doing are not popular, but they're necessary. and coming to washington and pursuing their own interests which is more important to many politicia politician. i'm following through on what i pledged ed to. i about put it out before american people about got 306 lectorlial college votes. they said there was no way to get 230, it's possible, 2 # 0, which you need, that was laughable. we got 306 because people came out and voted like they have never seen before. so that is way it goes. i guess it was the biggest electrlectoelectri electoral college win since
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a very good sunday to you. i'm richard lui here in new york. president trump could name a new national security adviser very soon, this after two big names withdrew themselves as candidates over concerns about the role's independent inside. meanwhile, the fbi wretches up the intensity on veries on russia and the resignation of mike flynn. who knew what and when. plus
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