add. we'll get to thoo next time. thank you at home for watching this hour of msnbc live. i'm headed back down to d.c. in the meantime find me any time online where we're celebrating national lf your pove your pet . i turn it over to ali velshi. >> coming up, what sweden has to say about the none existent terror attack and the file that is being kept on trump and thousands of demonstrators gather to speak out on president trump's policies. good morning, i'm ali velshi.

president trump is finding a new national security adviser after michael flynn left that role last week. nbc news has learned the president will have follow-up meetings today regarding the search. the president met with -- the president defending his comments about a nonexistent taerror attack in sweden. >> you look at what happened last night in sweden. sweden. who would believe this? they took in large numbers and they're having problems like you

wouldn't know. >> give the public a break. the fake news media is trying to say that large scale immigration in sweden is working out just beautifully. not! and sweden responded, terror attacks? what has he been smoking? the president defending his remarks about sweden, even though officials say nothing happened there on friday. >> reporter: and white house officials have told us that the president was speaking more broadly about a general rise in violence and general concern, not any specific incident after he of course got a lot of attention for making those remarks, which appeared as it was happening on saturday to be sort of the president riffing a bit, not necessarily planned remarks, which were a part of his speech at his first campaign rally since taking office. so the white house is trying to

give a broader explanation, the president using his twitter feed to try to shift the blame towards the news media and understandably officials in sweden were perplexed. it kind of turned into the shiny object of the weekend where it was something that was getting attention, was curious. there wasn't app easy answer to explain it. so the white house simply saying the president speaking more broadly. he is now hammering back that immigration is a greater concern. it certainly is a concern in europe. but sweden is saying their immigration policies have not been problematic. top aides are having to qualify it, explain it or give us additional context. so that's what happens happened here. it's also been a very busy few days. a holiday weekend with the president working through each of the days on important

meetings. everything from calls with foreign leaders to policy and strategy ideas about what to do with obamacare, the health care law and very prominently interviewing top candidates for the national security adviser position, which remains open after the sudden, controversial departure of michael flynn and he did not give proper full disclosure to the vice president and other top officials, including the president, with about his conversations with the russian ambassador. >> i can think of nothing other than swedish meat balls since the statements. there has a call out to save

materials about the russian probe. >> the top republican, the top democrat sending letters to explain what they're looking for to about a dozen agencies and individuals, including the white house, asking them to preserve all documents, records, e-mails, things that could relate to russia, and there are several topics related to russia as the senate intelligence committee looks at interference during the election season, also potential ties from afulats, associates of the campaign or the president with russian officials and of course what michael flynn or did not due with the russian ambassador during his transition. the president has denied having any connections to russia, the white house has said nobody had any contact with russia. but the authority of the intel commit on the senate side is very significant. they've got power to look at

this, even though some were saying there should be an outside investigation and this is one of their first steps and it is an expected step but it gives you a sense of how seriously they're taking this by giving this preserve all records. we're getting an intriguing look at how the kremlin is preparing for its first face-to-face meeting between vladimir putin and president trump. though no date has been set yet for that meeting. chief correspondent bill kneel is preparing a dossier what might be described as a psychological profile of president trump. tell me more about this. >> good morning, ali, from moscow where the kremlin is watching events in washington very closely and with growing alarm. they actually want president trump to succeed because

ultimately they would like u.s. sanctions on russia to be lifted. and they're also, as you say, now ftrying to look inside his mind. they prepared a dossier on his mental strengths and waeaknesse according to a deputy foreign minister, who spoke to me exclusively. >> pages describing the psychological portrait of trump, especially based on the last two, three months. >> they believe president trump can be naive. >> he doesn't stand who putin is. he's dancing on thin ice. it's a risky game. >> reporter: and doesn't listen to advisers. >> he should listen to them.

>> is he laughing in the cripple lynn at the minute. >> absolutely not. not laughing. it's very serious. and the whole team is nervous. >> ali, it's not usual in advance of a very important first meeting or a summit for presidents to get a briefing document, but this seven-page psychological dossier seems to be something else. and there you heard from him, he is saying that mr. putin is preparing for very tough talks and he's preparing to meet a different kind of president, not president obama, who here they believe was an idealist, but a donald trump who is a pragmatist and, yes, a risk taker. so those talks, no date is being set, though people are believing

here that they will be in april or may. the kremlin preparing very, very hard. >> no kidding. >> bill, great reporting. thanks so much. my next guest wrote an op-ed in the "new york times" this weekend titled republicans, protect the nation. evan mcmullen is a former cia officer for the house republican conference. he left that position last year to run as an independent candidate for president. good to see you again. thank you for joining us. >> i was reading your op-ed. something stood out to me, a line you wrote to characterize what you think republicans in the house and the senate should be doing. up said that the support for donald trump -- president trump's disturbing russian connections present an acute danger to american national security. republican leaders in congress now bare the most responsibility for holding the president accountable in protecting the nation. what do you mean -- i know what

you mean by it but what do you think they should do about that? >> well, there needs to be an investigation. that investigation right now is said to be happening in the senate intel committee. i'm not convinced that that's sufficient, i think the senate intel committee already has a lot of work on its plate and it has limited resources and i'm not convinced that the republicans are willing to hold donald trump accountable because they haven't done so through the ras and and my concern is they may be doing the bare minimum just to kek the box but not really hold donald trump accountable. but there r things they can do. i'd like to them and then also ties from president trump's

campaign and post. that's what i think needs to happen. or there could be a special counsel appoint pd by the d.o.j. i'm open. or there could be a special commission. i'm open to a variety of ideas -- >> but something that's not just the normal structure of congress. >> yes. this is no business and up said in reference to the support t t that. >> you said it was an inauspicious trade of new york that's tough talk from a guy who's a republican. >> yeah, it's true. i think this is a moment of serious national security concern, grave national security concern and we need truth these days and that's what i wrote in that op-ed. members understood russia was

trying to influence some suspect that donald trump may have been compromised by russia and yet they still got on board with tru trump i'm not trying to destroy anyone with this. independent on our leaders to do what's best for the country and to stand up and that's what i hope that they'll do now. >> evan, tng. >> coming up, we are live where vice president mike sense spom and defense secretary james p james mattis is on a sprood, we'll tell you what who about

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spending 2% of their budget on defense, need to step it up. >> as a candidate for office, president trump called attention repeated to the fact that for too long, for too many this burden has not been shared fairly. if you don't yet have a plan, these are my words, not his, get one. >> nbc's lucy kafanav is with us. he al >> reporter: this is the first time the vice president took questions from the press on this so-called global reassurance tour and this is the very first time he addressed the scandal over mike flynn's resignation. he was asked by a member of the media whether he felt he was left out of the loop by the white house over flynn's

duplicity over the russian issue. take a listen to the vice president's response. >> i was disappointed to learn that the facts conveyed to me by general flynn were inaccurate. butch we honor general flynn's long service to the united states of america and i fully support the president asking for his resignation. and have i great confidence in this national security going forward. >> and he was also asked about this dichotomy that european leaders have seen between this steady message from the vice president and comments from donald trump, should they listen to the president or to the vice

president. this does stem from the fact there have been such different messages coming out from this particular tour and the president's message in the past. he was also asked about donald trump's so-called war on the media. that's how the questioner phrased it. he said donald trumps that the unique ability to speak directly to the american people and he will continue to call out the press when they play hard and loose with the facts. but, ali, the overall message here was about defense spending, america's commitment to nato but also the call on member states to do more in terms of spending a larger share of their gdp, at least 2% on defense spending. only four out of the 28-member states do that. meek pence said he wants to see more of them step up but he refused to say there would be some kind of hard consequences for member states in they refuse to do so. i think the jury is still out whether our european allies

trust this message coming from mike pence and truly believe the two men, the president and vice president are speaking with one voice. >> they've now reverted to u.s. policy, complaining that the other members aren't paying their fair share. thank you very much. along the same thing, who do you believe, the president or one of the president's representatives? james mattis is in baghdad trying to reassure iraqi leaders that the u.s. does not intend to take their oil despite what president trump said as recently as last month. >> i think all of us here in this room and all of us in america have generally paid for our gas and oil all along and i'm sure we will continue to do so in the future. we're not in iraq to seize anybody's oil. >> the old expression to the

victor belong the spoils, i always used to say keep the oil. when we were in, we got out wrong. i always said in addition to that, keep the oil. i said it for economic reasons. if you think about it, if you kept the oil, they probably wouldn't have isis because that's where they made their been so we should have kept the oil. >> that was the famous speech he made at the cia after inauguration day. i'd like to bring in steve clemmons. i don't know where to start. who do you listen to, mattis in baghdad saying we're in the here to seize anyone's oil or trump, who has been peddling this idea since 2011.

he first gave an interview saying i don't want to go into libya unless we get their oil. >> we have to listen to both of them. donald trump sounds like a war crime and james mattis is out to qualify everything and put it consistent with legality and international law. i would made mattis's job or mike pence's job or anyone who has to explain donald trump. right now we have to listens to the president of the united states, the president is the ultimate decider, he's the one with the nuclear football near him. jim mattis and others are filters. they may try and guide the president but ultimately the president decides. we have to find an equi equilib

between trump and his more sane advisers. >> that's been a thought people have had for a long time, that was an expensive war and the oil will make up for it. >> many look at dick cheney and his background with halliburton, but that's not extracting the resources and taking -- it may be building facilities and infrastructure, it may be putting companies in to have a piece of the action but taking resources from another country is a war crime and not even the cheney/bush administration did that. >> but donald trump has said to

the victor go the spoils, you go in, take someone's resources, you sell them. >> that's exactly what he said. i remember writing maybe we need something about the iraqi permanent fund. because this is the people's resource. and the notion was can you get that resource distributed fairly and broadly so they can prevent a ple tockcy from having that asset? donald trump is addressing a very different framing of this. >> talking about the "new york times." you just heard vice president speaking. donald trump's demands on nato defense spending are driving a

wedge into europe. just to give you an example, germany says it will take about eight years to hit its spending obligation. nato is supposed to spend 2% of its budget on military. maybe somebody should push them to do so, not pull out of nato at the same time. how do you manage this? >> i really like an article by the republican former bush administration ambassador to the u.n., afghanistan and iraq who said it's silly to talk numbers and financial spending. look at what they need to do in that region particularly with the rough edge against russia today and look at how they can broaden their capacity, that ultimately when you begin looking at 2% of gdp, that's an irrelevant number. so there may be ways to begin looking at working with nato allies in a capability frame

that's better than the percent and frame. >> steve clemons. >> demonstrators are gathering for what's being called not pry president's day rallies. picking up for kyle.

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from new york to los angeles and in several major cities in between, many critics of the new administration will spend this president's day marching in the streets. organizers are calling today "not my esident's day" rallies and they get under way in at least 25 cities in a few hours. here in new york city more than a thousand people rallied in

support of muslim americans and to protest president trump's immigration policies. msn msnbc's mariana atencio is in atlanta. >> reporter: people have already started to gather here. they will be walking about five miles to the financial district here because they say they want their voices to are heard. that is what we are expecting to see across the country. thousands of people are expected to spend their president's days holidays rallying against -- more than two dozen communities across the country will be opposing what they say donald trump has done and what he has promised to do. these rallies, they sort of

emerge in a very organic, grass roots way, ally, mostly on facebook groups. the first big facebook group inspired some of the other rallies. here in atlanta, more than 3,000 people expressed interest in this event and i want to talk to one of the organizers today. this is my friend ray. what is the main issue that you guys are protesting orallyirall about today? >> i've been on about ten matchematch -- marches. there's a lot of concerns. we decided since all these marches had different marches and concerns, we'd put on one on president's day addressing all of the concerns. and our main ones are the

impeachable offenses that we think are committed by trump and his administration being the russian investigation, obviously they knew about it. so that was the main gist of us doing this march. >> thank you so much, ray. >> so, ali, as you heard, it's this big tent of issues ranging from what organizers are calling the muslim ban to donald trump's immigration policy to his alleged russian involvement, as you heard here in atlanta today. and that is what we're seeing across the country today, what we will be seeing protesters rallying around sort of an array of issue they say the trump administration represents.

>> the trump administration is preparing to roll out its new immigration order this week, we are getting a hint of what could come via draft memos. these memos are not final and we're told the white house objects some of the language in this many. let's talk about these drafts. as they stand the drafts call for potentially big changes, including ending the release of people captured at the borders while they await hearings, speeding up the removal proceedings and thousands more enforcement agents. what's your initial response? what are you hearing among your colleagues on the hill? >> thank you so much, ali for having me on. it's an honor to be here.

we need both sides to come to the able and arrive at a comprehensive immigration fix. we need to clear the borders. i think these particular efforts we've heard about over the weekend, i also heard tt the trump administration was considering calling up a hundred thousand national guardsmen and women, to be part of this police force, which is an absolutely horrible idea. these efforts are going to further divide our country. and that's the worst thing that he could possibly be doing right now at a time when we should be unifying. >> let me ask you this, though. i hear when you say it's horrible, but it's not that democrats found a solution to this problem. so is the view from democrats that whatever the number of undocumented people are in the united states just get to stay? there shouldn't be a process to

evaluate the situation? >> no, it not necessarily that. i think all of these issues need to be examined together. we need a comprehensive immigration fix, one that allows folks who legally come here to avoid the back logs and delays that we see currently in the system. we need to secure the border and provide the requisite resources that do so. with regard to those already here, i think we have to figure out a way to, for instance, allow them a path to citizenship over time but at the same time require they speak publienglish fines -- >> but we've heard it, it sounds reasonable for years, from republicans, from democrats, from both parties. no one did it. donald trump promised he was going to do it and unsavory as

some find it, now he's following through on exactly what he said he would do. what do you about it? >> i think on certain issues, such as the immigration executive order as a few weeks ago, we have to stand up and fight them. i never thought i'd found myself at o'hare trying to free a couple dozen of american green card holders. i took an oath to defend and uphold the constitution. we have to come to the together with our best ideas on how do we fix the immigration system on a bipartisan fashion, put the requisite resources on the table as well and then execute this plan. at the end of the day, ali, the reason in my humble opinion why people are up in arms right now, instead of trying to act in a bipartisan fashion to lift up

working families through a bipartisan economic agenda, instead we're pursuing efforts right now which only will serve to divide our country, such as this immigration order or take people's health care away from them through repealing obamacare and so forth. >> congressman, always a pleasure to talk with you. >> thank you. >> coming up, as democrats debate whether to focus their future on diverse voters or white working class voters, my next guest says that's a false choice. it's looking up not down. it's feeling up thinking up living up. it's being in motion... in body in spirit in the now. boost. it's not just nutrition. it's intelligent nutrition. with 26 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. all in 3 delicious flavors. it's choosing to go in one direction...

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donald trump says your candidate loss, deal with it, your candidate was out of touch with america, deal with it and all of you are trying to deflect and blame it on the russians. >> i didn't bring up our campaign, whether it caused the loss or not. >> do you think this did? >> i this it could have. >> that was robbie mook, campaign manager for hillary clinton. a former super pac said it's found a way for democrats to move forward. priorities usa, which calls itself a voter centric progressive voadvocacy group released its findings on what

went wrong in the 2016 election. swing voters who voted for obama and then voted for trump in 2016 and democratic-leaning voters who came out in 2012 and not in 2016. that second group is largely african-americans and millennials. it said it found several ways the party can engage with these groups to win them back. joining with me is guy cecil, former political director for hillary clinton's 2008 campaign. turns out these two groups have a lot in common. how does that information translate into a win for democrats? >> well, i think our party is having a conversation right now where there is near unanimity that we need a 50-state strategy and that requires that we speak to both swing voters and base turnout voters like african-americans and millennials. and the point of our research is to make sure our party is not simply a collection of 70 or 80

demographics groups but rather we are providing a comprehensive approach to the future of our country. the three things that were most in common, number one, americans deserve and need a raise. number two, americans want full access to health care and affordable quality college and, number three, americans are genuinely concerned about the national security threat that this president poses. this was true among both of these groups of voters and provides a way forward for democrats to look forward to 2018. >> the conversation about 50-state strategies, that's political talk that americans who are suffering from the three ideas that you mention later actually just need solutions to. so talking about it and strategizing about it probably adds to the frustration. what exactly who democrats who did have the presidency, who did control congress for a time, going to do to give americans a raise? it didn't happen when the democrats had control.

>> during the period that democrats had control, we were coming out of the worst recessir recession since the great depression. these are complicated problems that involve automation, that involve the hollowing out of rural communities. this president what no plan and, in fact, his plan would make it worse. our plan focuses on highlighting, number withione, this president is going to betray the working class -- >> i hear you, i hear you, but that's not working. those guys, the hillary clinton campaign spent a lot of time telling everybody what this president wasn't going to do and it didn't work. i hear you on the fact that the stilless bill and a whole lot of other things didn't help but when you talk about automation and technology. what is the solution? i haven't heard one from a democrat ever. >> number one, we need a

infrastructure bill, not one the president has supported, which will seriously be give a tax raise to the rich. we have dams in california falling apart, roads and bridges falling apart. we have a basic infrastructure falling apart and we can put hundreds of thousands of americans to work tomorrow if we committed to rebuilding the infrastructure of our country. number two, we could continue with the expansion of medicare and medicaid that would provide affordable health care instead of eliminating medicaid expansion. and now three, we could raise the minimum wage. number four, provide real worker triening through community colleges. there are absolutes to the tax forward. >> which is essentially the same thing that donald trump has been supporting hines he was president. >> guy, i look forward to seeing some meat on those bones and

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when you look at the rural counties and look at the poverty rates in those counties and measure them with the poverty rates of urban counties, they're very similar. here in missouri, i have a rural part of my district and urban, they're about the same in terms of the poverty rate, so we failed miserably, and if we don't seriously and significantly look at ways in which we can touch the folk in rural america, we're not going to win four years from now. >> so one of the things that came out of that autopsy is that the swing voters, the ones who were obama voters in 2012 and became trump voters in 2016 have something in common with the turnout voters shall the african-americans and millenials who didn't come out this time. here are the things that they have in common. donald trump's temperament could lead to war, they believe. his tax agenda favors the wealthy, they believe, and he will cut government programs like medicare and medicaid they believe. so that looks like a good

starting point for democrats. >> absolutely. look, you know, democrats, even those that either were pushed out or slipped out of our ranks in the last election, this past november, are people with whom we have common values. i think some of they were were not inspired, we didn't have an inspirational or aspirational message. we've told them over and over again you take african-americans for granted, and they do, and i think that's going to come back to hurt us in the long run. >> how do they take african-americans for granted? the idea i think in some people's mind t hasn't been malignant but it has been well you're not going to vote for the other guy so your only choice is to, but what do you do to not

take them for granted as democratic supporters? >> some democratic candidates have actually said that, and they have no idea how much resentment they generate when they make statements. secondly they act like it. look, there are very few republican african-americans, probably a handful, they could probably fit in the studio, but the republicans go a long way trying to lift them up. now, their voting practices and theology of politics is i think alien to what african-americans want to see but they do in an unconventional way respond to them and try to talk with them. one african-american i know, businessman, who has become enormously wealthy as a result of republicans, who helped him and his business as they moved along. >> representative, always a

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right now members of the british parliament are debating

an online movement to block president trump's upcoming state visit to the united kingdom. the petition has received nearly 2 million signatures but the debate in parliament is largely symbolic, because the decision is non-binding. nbc's matt bradley is in london with more. the debate i believe just started. any indication of what's going on and what to expect? >> reporter: well we don't know exactly which way this debate is going to go. we can be very certain most of the people in this parliament, most of the members are going to be pretty angry at trump but like you mentioned they can say whatever they want because there's no vote. there won't be any binding decisions out of this. what you can look for, expect some witty reparte, the kind of thing parliament does well. you won't see any sort of decision that would overturn that would disinvite prime

minister theresa may's invitation to donald trump. here in britain this is the ace in the hole of british diplomacy because it brings out all of the pomp and circumstance that surrounds the british royal family, if donald trump does come to london for this state visit and it looks like that's going to happen. then he'll probably be dining with the queen, and that's one of the reasons why this entire online petition began, was because the man who started it said that it would be beneath the dignity of the queen to be hosting the u.s. president because of his "vulgarity and misogy misogyny" for a meal and the president would be able to address the house of parliament. there are protests going on in parallel to this, happening just down the street. there's supposed to be 16,000 people who signed up on facebook for this so we can expect large crowds tonight. >> ironically more people outside than in parliament at the moment. matt bradley in london. that does it for me for a little

while. thanks for watching this hour of "msnbc live." you can find me on twitter, facebook and instagram and snapchat. i'll be back at 1:00 p.m. eastern. right now on "andrea mitchell reports." >> thank you so much. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," on the spot. vice president mike pence in brussels today to reassure allies about the u.s. commitment to nato, but the first question addresses the elephant in the room. >> who should european leaders listen to, you or president trump, and can they be certain that what you say, at assurances you give won't be contradicted in a tweet or a statement at a press conference tomorrow? >> well thank you for the question. let me say it's my great privilege to serve as vice president, for the 45th president of the united states, and the president directed me to go to munich and come here to brussels with a very specific message. >> we'll have that message coming up. oil