that. to destroy isis we'll have to be at loggerheads with russia at every turn. i presume the president is learning that or already knows that, but i think it's not going to work for him. what he's been saying so far. >> cnbc's larry kudlow. >> we're still supply-side tax cutters and so is mr. trump. i need to add that. >> that does it for us. "mtp daily" starts rirn. right now. that's thursday. a very different cpac kicks off. tonight, team trump takes over cpac. but whose conservative movement is it anyway? >> what we were starving for was somebody real, somebody genuine. >> i think that is the power of this movement. plus. sidelined? why rex tillerson only seems to play cleanup but never is on the inside before big decisions are made. and game of spoofs.

why winter is coming, everywhere. this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. goo evening i am chuck todd in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." la last year candidate trump was practically run out of town at cpac, he didn't show. this year, president trump is coming in a big way. >> how do you believe president trump has impacted the conservative movement? >> i think by tomorrow this will be tpac when he's here. no doubt. >> may have been a joke, but truer words may not have been spoken. does president trump's takeover of this annual conservative gathering mean that conservativism is now trumpism and conservativism as you knew it is no longer there, totally replaced by trumpism? or is it simply movement

conservativism is just in hibernation and is there a point at which those conservatives fight back? today we saw something rare at cpac. the chief of staff, reince priebus and steve bannon on stage together. one more sign that there is no one person in charge of the white house. and there are perhaps no better symbols of the clash of conservative ideologies, if you want to call it that. traditional conservativism and trumpism than these two men. here is how they both answered the same question. they were asked what was most important about president trump's first 30 days and beyond. the priebus answer first. >> the first thing i think is neil gorsuch. it established that president trump is a man of his word. we always knew that. but when he said here is 20 names on a piece of paper back in july, remember, and he said i'm going to pick my judge out of these 20 people that are on this piece of paper, and he did

it, that's number one. >> priebus' answer focused on the biggest thing that arguably delivered anxious conservatives for mr. trump. during the campaign, his promise to nominate a conservative to replace justice scalia. later in the discussion priebus compared mr. trump to conservative icon ronald reagan and talked up white house efforts to limit the government's reach another staple of movement conservativism for the 21st century. here is ban nnon's answer to what's most important from this white house in first 30 days. >> look at the lines of work. i break them out into three buckets. national security and sovereignty. the second economic nationalism. the third broadly line of work is what is deconstruction of the administrative state. >> bannon's answer is an outline of nationalism, a new world order, which he clearly views as the binding agent to keep the various factions within the republican party united around the president. take a listen to this.

>> if you look at the wide agree -- degree of opinions in this room. populist. economic libertarian. economic nationalist. we have wide and sometimes divergent opinions but i think the center core of what we believe, that we are a nation with an economy, not an economy in some global marketplace with open borders but a nation with a culture and a -- and a reason for being. and i think that's what unites us. >> folks saying winning builds chemistry or to put it another way, a rising trump lifts all conservative boats, but there are still signs that conservatives are not ready to fully embrace mr. trump's nationalist identity. far from it. why is why the bulk of his actions so far, for now, seem more designed to shore up the conservative flank. because if that flank breaks with the president, they could make his life miserable. don't forget, it was just last

year that mr. trump pulled out of the cpac gathering amid concerns of a walkout because some attendees didn't think he was a real conservative. this is a year ago. cpac speakers of all stripes ripped into him as some kind of conservative sharlton. >> have you heard donald trump talk about the republican party? i haven't. >> what we need most of all is not just someone who wants to breathe fire on washington, but wants to breathe passion into our children for a constitutional recovery because that's how we will actually make america great again. >> donald trump is skipping cpac. >> donald trump was supposed to be here this morning. he backed out. he instead was in kansas. i sense that the crowd has an opinion on that. do you? >> yeah. this is the american

conservative union. it's usually reserved for conservatives. [ cheers and applause ] >> that wasn't even a year ago. i am joined by senior editor at "the atlantic." if you follow him on twitter you know he's not the biggest donald trump fan. let me ask you this, david. what have we witnessed today? is it just a reminder that cpac is really just a vehicle for whomever is in charge in the moment or something else? >> kellyanne conway, i think, is right. it is tpac. not willingly. but donald trump's rise involved breaking one after one the institutions of established conservative power. including fox news. he broke that too, to his will. he practices the politics of domination and has dominated these institutions, forced them to surrender often in humiliating ways. that's true for cpac too. once people have sur runnedered,

they're then implicated in their surrender. no one likes this think i was over-mastered, i gave in because i was weak. they come up with reasons for it. they justify what they've done. you see, for example, the rise among republicans of support for vladimir putin because if donald trump is somehow beholden to vladimir putin, the obvious explanation -- >> or is it because if democrats don't like him, they like it? >> 18 months ago republicans and democrats disliked vladimir putin in exactly equal measure. republicans even more because of republicans' traditional hawkishness. now the rate of support among republicans has tripled in a little over a year. the obvious explanations are so frightening and not acceptable that republicans revert to we'll internalize this and if donald trump believes it, we'll believe it. >> let's go to steve bannon's

comments. what was interesting is he claimed -- he claimed to talk about the different factions within the -- i guess at this point you'd call it the right umbrella. you know, from moderate to conservative. he left out free-market capitalists in that. and because you can't be an economic nationalist and a free-market capitalist. >> right. >> where do they go? i have always found -- i thought free-market capitalism was a -- was one part of the conservative movement. >> we have had a very frozen political system in the united states from the end of the cold war until this year. if you are talking politics -- i mean, the faces change, the issues change, but the approach is -- if you were to watch "meet the press" from 1990, it would sound very alike. >> the left and the right has been the same, even as the geography has realigned but not the arguments. >> that's right. that's a long time. politics to be frozen. it's about to -- it has busted

apart. and the question of how do you cope with donald trump, how do you feel about him? it's going to lead to a change in the way politics is done. the talk of economic nationalism. one of the great theorists of economic nationalism says it's incompatible. we are moving toward conflict. when you list the things donald trump has done, the first thing he did or among the first, cancel the work towards the transpacific partnership. donald trump has steered toward conflict with china, having alienated america's allies in the region. including australia. our most militarily capable ally. the people who feel strongly about that will need new places to go, and the politics will look different. >> i hear you, but they're also not going to be comfortable with the democratic party.

they seem to be -- the free-market capitalists seem to be in no man's land. >> many others as well. the foreign policy hawks. people who want to see the country's sovereignty protected not just against trade agreements but against russia. that sovereignty seems to be sadly neglected these days. people who believe what our parents and grandparents built between 1945 and 1990, that's worth defending. people who believe in the foreign policy of ronald reagan are also stranded. will they end up in the democratic party? i don't know. but these are things you cannot holdn the same bag as donald trump. >> talking about it as a pure political strategy. it seems to me in the first 30 days they went with the mindset of look, we have to shore up as much of this 46% that we got as we can and maybe that begins -- because if you wanted to govern and try to get democrats involved you would have led with infrastructure. they decided to lead with

gorsuch. that's i worry about my right flank. >> the infrastructure play, as it's been developing in the past 48 hours is interesting. they decided, we don't think we can pass this but we can still use it. it may be better as something we don't pass and keep talking about. >> blame the democrats. >> or unveil it in the spring of 2018 and make it a big, big campaign issue. republicans, they don't actually have to figure out how to finance it, which they don't like. there is going to be -- just as there has been a struggle with fox news, just as there has been a struggle with other elements of the party, there will be a struggle with congress. that will come on top of the death struggle now being waged about the intelligence agencies. >> is there anything he's done that has made you think, okay, maybe i should dial back my criticism of him? >> i am broadly sympathetic to donald trump's approach to immigration. to the -- if there were any substance to his talk about not being so radical on entitlement reform, understanding the value of health coverage to americans,

if it meant something, i would be for that too. many people may know the joke about the beautiful diamond with a terrible curse and the curse is mr. plotkin. trump is the plotkin diamond. whatever he says, it comes with mr. plotkin. >> david frum i'll leave it there as viewers start to google plotkin's diamond. >> thank you. there was a bit of an elephant in the room at cpac today, the alt-right. here is how the issue was addressed at the conference today. >> there is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks, and we must not be duped, we must not be deceived. just a few years ago this hate-filled, left-wing fascist group hijacked the very term "alt-right." we know who these people are. they met just a couple months

ago in washington, d.c., to spew their hatred and make their hitler salutes. they're anti-semites. they are racists and sexists. they hate the constitution. they hate free markets. they hate pluralism. they hate everything and despise everything we believe in. >> tonight's panel. matthew, editor in chief of the white house free beacon. anne gearan, with the "washington post." welcome all. matthew, you are -- not to be mistaken with a pro-trump conservative but you are not as never-trump, i think, as other conservative writers. what do you make of what we've seen at cpac today? >> i think kellyanne conway is right. tpac. the president usually defines the parameters of a political party. the same way ronald reagan transformed the republican party when he finally won the nomination in 1980 and became

the president that year. it really became ronald reagan's republican party. he brought the conservative movement to the fore. donald trump won the nomination. he won the presidency. now he is bringing in his movement and also changing the conservative movement that was there. i think the way to think about it is, nationalism. >> yeah. >> just like bannon said. it's now a primarily nationalist movement. >> it's a different republican party. >> it's a very different republican party. you are talking about nationalism, you still have the holdouts, conservatives. what about the libertarians and tea partiers and neo cons who people believe helped to create trump, or now tpac today. and tomorrow particularly. here is the issue. when you talk about reagan. reagan was talking about fiscal responsibility. the conservatives believe in that and still believe in that, even as president trump is talking about cutting the waste and belt-tightening. at the same time you have this wall. that's where the conservative piece is lost with president

trump. this wall that's going to cost a lot of money. >> it does seem, anne is that there is no longer -- he is not a man fighting for small government. he is fighting for strong government. that's what you see. strong government. he may deregulate, but i'll deregulate. it's strong government. >> yes, i agree with that almost all the way. i think what we heard from steve bannon today was a lot more of the blow up argument. >> blow it up and rebuild it. >> blow it up and rebuild it, yes. they have to govern. they own things now. they have to run things. you do wonder if a lot of voters who voted for trump thinking, man, this guy is going to shake things up, this is great, are now wondering, huh, i wonder really what's going to happen to my schools, my roads, all that sort of thing. >> it's interesting. i think some trump voters viewed him as a snow globe. shake it up. they didn't want him to he throw

the snow globe on the ground. bannon wants to throw the globe on the ground. >> bannon talked about deconstructing the administrative state. it's a very loaded, technical term. >> thank you! >> every conservative who reads the intellectual journals heard him and understood it. it's the idea of bureaucracies governing without due process of the congress. kind of saying these are the new rules and we'll issue them regardless of whether congress has approved them or not. that's at the center of a lot of the conservatives' critiques of the obama transition. who is fighting him most fiercely right now? the bureaucracies. >> i hear you. and i get that. he says he wants to dismantle the administration state over here while they hand more power and interpretation of the administration state, for

instance, at dhs. that's another version of expanding administration authority. >> that's one of the reasons why you are hearing a grumbling on capitol hill. a grumbling within the party. the shakeup has gone beyond what they thought would happen. we haven't seen it fully played out yet. we're just in the first month. let's wait and see, but there is already buyer's remorse, and buyer's remorse within the cpac right now with high officials. >> i think there is also a sense that what we heard from ted cruz and marco rubio in the clip you played earlier, of course, they were then running -- >> still running. >> but they're still in congress. they're senators. and they are voting in large measure when they have the chance for the trump agenda. >> but in defense, the trump agenda has not been anything that what wouldn't have been any of their agendas either. they haven't tested that yet.

>> in the case of rubio, he sort of tried to test it -- >> a little bit with tillerson. >> he got shut down and went away quietly. we do wonder when, if ever, they sort of start to reassert some of the principles that i think they probably still hold pretty dear, right, when they start talking about these things again. >> we'll pause it here. you guys will be back, i promise. coming up, did republicans paint themselves into a corner on repealing and replacing obamacare? when they're not quite ready to repeal it, don't yet know how to replace it. stay tuned. on, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything.

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welcome back. president trump today made his first comments on the nuclear arsenal since taking office. in an exclusive interview with reuters, president trump said he's ready to expand it. condemned north korea's missile tests and said he's not willing to let the u.s. fall behind when it comes to nukes. >> it would be wonderful -- a

dream would be that no country had nukes. but if countries are going to have nukes, we're going to be at the top of the pack. white house press secretary today, sean spicer, underscoring that stance, saying the united states will respond to other countries attempting to grow their own stockpiles. >> the united states will not yield its supremacy in this area to anybody. that's what he made very clear. and that, if other countries have nuclear capabilities, it will always be the united states that has the supreme supremacy and commitment to this.

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health secretary was concerned. a plan to replace the affordable care act is easier said than done. we don't have a plan yet. just today, former republican house speaker john boehner, called the idea of repeal and replace, quote, happy talk. he said congressional republicans are, quote, going to fix obamacare. i shouldn't call it repeal and replace because it's not going to happen. now, with no other legislative accomplish ams accomplishments to tout, republicans are getting an earful at town halls with nothing to argue back with. some republicans have offered proposals. one from susan cassidy. and rand paul and mark sanford. other republicans have other ideas. that's the problem. there are a lot of ideas. it's like having two quarterbacks that you think you can start. it means you have none. joining me now. jonathan cohn and from forbes.

obik roy. you've seen them before. let me start with you, ovik. did john boehner call it a kingsley gaffe, accidentally speaking the truth. >> he has every reason to say what he said. we've had no agreement among republicans as to how they'd replace obamacare. republicans are united on what they're against but divided on what they're for. some republicans say we really want to repeal obamacare and go home. that's it. others, like myself, say we embrace the coverage goals of it but believe it can be done through another process. and people in the middle want to duck and avovoid the noisy town halls and try to get reelected and support measures in between. the president will have to

exhibit leadership. he needs to lay down the law and say congress, send me something that covers as many people as the aca or i'll veto it. then they'll have marching orders and can put something together. >> you're finding yourself -- you're used to arguing in the defensive posture. you're now in the offensive posture. if you're democrats and you watch all of this, there any incentive to help the republicans out of this? >> i really don't think there is at this point. look at the republicans. they've made the wild promises for seven years. the affordable care act, it's awful, it's terrible. we have a better way to do it. familia here they are with power and lo and behold they don't have any idea what they want to do. i don't think they have any incentive until republicans say, maybe we were wrong and the law does some good things and maybe we're willing on fixing it,

because there are problems to the law. we embrace like avik does, the coverage goal and we're willing to work on it. >> we now have the john boehner quotes in audio, so i want to play them so folks can hear it. it's always fun to here boehner saying it in his john boehner way. here it is. >> the framework is going to stay there. coverage for kids up to age 26. covering those with preexisting conditions. all of that is going to be there. all this happy talk that went on in november and december and january about repeal, repeal, repeal. yeah, we'll do replace, replace. i started laughing because, if you pass repeal without replace, first, anything that happens is your fault. >> so avik, i think more and more republicans are finding that out at these town halls. where is this headed? if you have this freedom caucus -- i know who you are

talking about. 50 votes in the house that just say, repeal it, period. there is no replace. repeal it. there isn't another 50 votes of democrats willing to help out the republicans. how do they do this? >> well, chuck, i wouldn't even say the freedom caucus is the obstacle here. the house republican leadership is developing legislation that they expect will be out within days or weeks according to paul ryan. he said it would be out after the presidents' day weekend. then that legislation will be scored by the congressional budget office. so within perhaps a month or maybe sooner we'll know what the congressional budget office, how it's scored the coverage, spending and tax components of the house republican plan. if that -- the cbo scores the plan as covering 20 to 30 million fewer people than the aca, look, part of it might be the way it models things but not all of it. that's going to be hard to defend. there will be a lot of crentriss

and center right republicans saying. i'm not supporting that. >> i am convinced the vehicle will eventually be cassidy collins. what do you make of the cassidy collins vehicle, which is the whole, if you like your obamacare, keep it strategy, but if you didn't like it, here, we're going to kind of brock grant medicaid for you but do it in a way that you can't short-change folks. is that a realistic vehicle? >> if you game this out where this could possibly go, it's pretty easy to imagine that scenario, right, where somehow the way the republicans get out of the mess they've created for themselves is basically kick it to the states. they could say, we're in favor of states' rights. >> hey! giving you this. >> they'll be under pressure from states like california who get to say, hey, we get to keep this. that's a long path because there is a long component of the republican party who will reject that. they don't shrink government spending much. obamacare stays in place.

in a lot of states. >> avik, this weekend the gf governors are in town. most of the republican governors who have expanded medicaid love -- they don't want to get rid of this. they want to keep it. and one of those former governors who expanded medicaid who may make the argument for them is mike pence. do you buy it? >> no. in this sense. what the governors really want to keep is the dollars. they want the dollars to flow to their states. so they're open to an alternative to the medicaid expansion, for example, refundable tax credits. if they're given enough dollars or their citizens and residents are given enough dollars to purchase health insurance where they're the same or comparable to the mek iexpansion they're comfortable with it. the federal government gives the patients the dollars, patients buy the insurance, done. it doesn't have to be that way. but the paul ryan plan doesn't

make that transition easy. there will have to be some revisions in how republicans in congress develop the replace plan to achieve that goal. >> jonathan cohn, avik roy, i have a feeling you'll be back quite a bit over the next three to six months -- i think 18 months to two years. this isn't going to happen in the next three to six months. guys, thanks very much. still ahead. what's the point of having a secretary of state if you don't let him do his job. rex tillerson may be asking that question to himself right about now. ... you've earned your medicare. it was a deal that was made long ago, and aarp believes it should be honored. thankfully, president trump does too. "i am going to protect and save your social security and your medicare. you made a deal a long time ago." now, it's congress' turn. tell them to protect medicare.

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. welcome back. homeland security secretary john kelly and secretary of state rex tillerson are in mexico today trying to ease tensions over the trump administration's moves to curb illegal immigration. secretary kelly echoed the president's sentiments about deporting criminals but made sure to point out that the u.s. is acting in accordance with our own laws and is not enlisting the military in the deportations. >> let me be very, very clear. there will be no, repeat, no mass deportations. everything we do in dhs will be done legally and according to human rights and the legal justice system of the united states. no, repeat, no use of military force in immigration operations. none. >> we'll have more on the trip to mexico by the two cabinet secretaries actually in just a

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sovereignties from time to time will have differences. we listened carefully to each other as we patiently and respectfully raised our individual concerns. >> rex tillerson south of the bodd border to meet with mexican officials. tillerson was not at the white house during visits by leaders of israel, canada and japan. he has made very few public remarks and his state department has yet to have a daily press briefing. the "new york times" reports the who is overruled him for the deputy secretary of state job. his public appearances have seemed more like cleanup duty. he also met with european leaders this month to smooth things over on nato and russia. it's still early, of course. but right now it's looking as if secretary tillerson, or at least the white house is making it look as if he has a diminished

public footprint. is that the intention or just an oversight. susan glasser. chief international affairs columnist at "politico." susan, it seems this is hitting critical mass in the world of rex tillerson in this respect. literally, within minutes of each other, the "washington post" and the politico both had pieces of this issue in different ways. lack of press briefing. sounds like they are sounding the alarm. >> it's hard to say which comes first, the chicken or the egg in washington. you can't really be the secretary of state and not really be out there and not be in the key meetings and expect that people won't remark on it for very long. it's been three weeks, as you said. it's very clear there may be a culture clash going on. he comes from being the ceo of one of the biggest companies in the world. used to being the corporate equivalent of a king. he may not realize that here in

washington, right, face time with the boss is everything and that the culture all revolves and in particular in trump's white house, revolves around closeness to the president himself, being in the room at the crucial moment and given the improve sayings impro improvisational nature of this white house that seems to be certainly happening. >> elliott abrams would tell him, no, no, no, you have to be in the meeting on israel. you have to be in the meeting here. you need to be in there for appearance sake so you have credibility when you go to that country. now he doesn't seem to have -- he is new to this ecosystem and doesn't have somebody navigating him now. >> that's exactly right. our washington culture is very particular. tillerson has come not only without a large group of his own life-time advisers -- >> i feel like john kerry brought in his people.

hillary clinton. colin powell. >> not only did he not bring his people. also one of the first things the trump people did is basically fire the administrative leadership of the state department. why does that matter? those are the people who handle the unsexy work of diplomacy, consular affairs, setting up the trips. people telling me an interesting story that he didn't have good advance work on his first trip to europe because they've shaken up the entire leadership of the state department and combine that with the fact that he is not coming in with his own choice of deputies. it's a huge difference from the job that he was used to at exxon. >> it seems he has one more thing working against him, and that is secretary of defense, jim mattis, seems -- does seem to have the president's ear. you could argue he had a big hand in the hiring of mcmaster as national security adviser. the person if you are the secretary of state you count on to mitigate some of the biggest

internal disputes. right now is looks like the national security council is mattis approve. >> the question is will they team up. >> they may. >> we don't know about that. remember that hillary clinton came in, she wasn't that close obviously to the barack obama white house after they defeated her. what did she do? she did in fact have an alliance with bob gates, the defense secretary, who had a lot of clout in the early obama administration. and that made them a center of gravity that needed to be reckoned with. we don't know yet where the dynamics of the trump cabinet will be. donald trump cares even less about due process than barack obama did. so will he even care. >> gates, rice, baker. three big names in the national security world and in republican politics. went out on a limb for tillerson, and essentially got him into this inner circle. are they the ones who are going

to sound the alarm on this soon? >> this was an effort, their backing of him. he wasn't maybe their first choice. >> they saw it as the best choice they could get. >> absolutely. i think they were testing and trying to figure out what will the trump team accept. i just spoke with somebody who saw tillerson a couple of days before the election. he had no idea that he was about to become secretary of state. absolutely. >> wow. susan glasser. it will be interesting. at some point they're going to want their secretary of state essentially, the chief diplomat of the united states, to be out there, you would assume. >> you know trump wants him out there. trump himself said today, by the way, he said, he is going to have a really tough trip down there. so even trump is conscious that he has sent the secretary of state and the secretary of homeland security into, you know, a pretty tough diplomatic assignment. but he clearly defines the job almost as a more public facing role and less setting policy and being part of the

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it's time for the lid. the panel is back. the dnc is going to pick their new chair. april, how much do you think it's impacting how democrats, they are not for ellison, how much is it hurting keith ellison. >> you would think it's progress enough to say we can have -- >> it's fear of how the white house views. >> right, he would be a target. what i'm hearing, that's not it. i'm hearing it's going to be tom perez, they want to find the soul of the democratic party i

want to make sure they are going back to their roots, that's what i'm hearing. >> it feels to me if keith ellison were not muslim and he becoming of sander son this auto would be done. he would be the front runner. >> problem -- >> it feels like that's holding him back. >> if so, it's unfair. but one of the problems is that he was such a strong bernie supporter and people making the decision were not. they have to not only include but completely incorporate and embrace and coddle to the bernie and warren way. and in many ways he does that. he is about as rabble rousing --

>> if he establishment, they out to say they won. >> i thought it was interesting, donald trump decided to tweet about the dnc race yesterday and it was praise shocking everybody keith ellison. >> he did what he could do which is to say donald trump is going to win. i think that's one reason -- >> here is the tweet, is that he was the one who predicted early that i would win. >> trump likes people who come -- >> he someone considered out of the mainstream even in the democratic party because of his history in the nation of islam. ellison would not be the best ambassador. >> another issue i hear he

running into is some of his supporters are angry at people who don't support him. ellison had to calm some of his supporters. >> i mon rated one of the -- >> you saw it firsthand. >> yes. when the people come out of the hall, they are conversed -- it's high energy and they are in your face with who they want, be it perez, ellison, any candidate. i can understand the issues there. >> we'll see. it's clinton obama, in one and sanders in another. >> thank you all. we'll be right back with something you may have missed. stay tuned.

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lastly. something, anything. one thing, governor of new jersey. look, the idea on the sports radio, it's not so crazy, he quick study, fast on his feet, experience with radio, and one undeniable talent that send fra sis koe to top of his field. >> did i say on topic, are you stupid. next question. good. thank you. thank you. all very much. i'm sorry for the idiot over there. >> in the courtroom you're rare end going to get thrown in jail, idiot. >> until that time, sit down and shut up. >> all of that was missing the

mets stick. i think this could work. governor, chuck from washington long time first time. they suck, who should they sign, do it. do it. you would be great. we may give you a mad dog title. that's it for tonight. "for the record" with greta starts now. it is going to get worst. president trump steve bannon slamming the press against, threaten the press saying the relationship is going to get worst. speaker of the house john boehner says talk of repeal and replace is happy talk. the commander in chief comment about expanding nuclear arsenal. new protests erupting across