that's going to wrap up this hour for me on capitol hill, i'll see you back in new york tomorrow. up next, my colleague steve kornacki, hey steve. >> thanks for that and good afternoon, everybody, i'm steve kornacki live here in new york. it is day 39 of the first 100 days topping our agenda right now, is there a russia connecon? >> i think we need to do the

investigation that we are charged to do. and it ought to be thorough. >> republican and democratic leaders in the house, they are split over how to go forward investigating president trump and his advisors over alleged ties to russia. democrats say they can't trust their republican colleagues to lead the probe. also on the agenda, safety and security. >> the president's budget will first and foremost keep americans safe. that means investing in both our nation's physical and financial serity. >> trump is promising big hikes in military and defense spending. he is also breaking with house speaker paul ryan in the ocess, can ryan give up his agenda? one he has been touting for years and get behind trump? we will dive into that. and 43 defending the media. >> we need an independent media to hold people like me into

account. >> the number of american whose agree with that might surprise you. it is our most important number of the day. we will get to that. we will get to much more. we begin though with our top story. should there be a special prosecutor? during press conferences from the top two members of the house intelligence committee. one democrat, one republican, each explaining where they stand when it comes to investigation into president trump and his team's potential ties to russia. the chairman of that committee, that is republican devin nunez of california. he warned reporters today that the proceedings should not turn into a witch hunt. he says that he knows of no evidence currently that would tie trump aids to russian agents. now his counterpart that is democrat adam schiff, he is also from california. he says the investigation has only just begun, but is premature to draw any conclusions. >> it is well premature to make

any conclusion and on the basis of my discussions, i'm not prepared to draw any conclusion about the veracity or lack of veracity of any newspaper article. i think we need to do the investigation that we are charged to do. and it ought to be thorough. >> all right. let's bring in kasie hunt on capitol hill been following this. kasie, it's interesting to listen to the two top leaders on that committee, they both seem to agree, no conclusions yet, but very, very different spin from each of them on what that means. >> reporter: emerging rift here, steve. and look, the intention communities up here, they have a history and reputation for being bipartisan. workintogether, and there's been some good faith actually which has been, you know, not a super common thing up here on the hill lately, but there have been this kind of agreement that okay, in order to keep these investigations here, in order to maintain our power over them, both sides would agree to work

together. and the house side that has been tested more than on the senate side, although they have been dealing with their own issues over the course of the last 72 hours, but here you saw it really -- remarkable set of events. it's not very common that we see the chairman come out and do something like this, followed by, of course, the ranking member. and essentially, and i pushed the chairman nunez on this today, he said, look, people have told me, and that's the phrase he used, many folks he said have told me that there is no evidence tieing the trump campaign to russia, forgive the noise here. we've got a little bit of food service ripping by here in the capitol. but look, this is evidence that i've seen people he said told him, he would not specify which intelligence agencies those were, whether it was the fbi, whether it was somebody in the white house, the intelligence community. and schiff, the ranking member said, exactly the opposite. he said look, we've set out the scope of our investigation. so we've now agreed on what this

is going to entail, what we're going to ask the intelligence agencies for, we haven't started the review of that evidence. and it's premature to draw a conclusion when we haven't even started down this road. so schiff did say today that he still has confidence that the investigation can be bipartisan, and he said that he'll be very vocal if he changes his mind and decides that it's not. that would be something of a nuclear option in this case. but, you're not hearing right now members of the intelligence committees calling for a special prosecutor the way darrell issa, with the congressman from california did. we'll see -- i'm veries can interested to see what happened. this all precipitated by the white house asking republicans to reach out to members of the media to push bgainst these reports of russians talking to trump campaign officials back in the fall or during the campaign, i should say, but we had chairman mark warner, the democrat, vice chairman warner on the senate side who had a biting statement to chairman

burr, the republican from north carolina, over the weekend, there had been very strong corporation on the senate side in this inquiry. we'll see if it continues to hold. chuck schumer said today that senator burr is on notice, steve. >> all right, kasie hunt on capitol hill, thanks for that. there is also another major story coming out of the nation's capitol. this involved new priorities and the rebuke by the president of conservative orthodoxy. the trump administration today laying out it's blueprint for how much money the governmt should be spending and what it should be spending that money on. and top of the list for trump, a new defense build-up. >> this budget will be a public safety and national security budget. very much based on those two, plenty of other things, but very strong. and it will include a historic increase in defense spending to rebuild the depleted military of the united states of america at

a time when we most need it. this defense spending increase will be offset and paid for by finding greater savings and efficiencies across the federal government. we're going to do more with less. >> so historic increase to defense spending. what would that mean? the trump administration right now is calling for a $54 billion hike in defense spending. what that would be a 10% increase from where we are right now. of course, trump promising to make up for that increase in cuts to discretionary spending across federal agencies. any budget that trump will have to win approval in congress. somehow congress reacting? well the left might expect here, trump's defense hike is too large. goes too far. chuck schumer showing a cut this steep cuts consumer protection from wall street access and protect clean air and water.

most didn't vote to give wall street the green light to rip them up. actually, that is schumer not talking about the defense side of thing, talking about the cuts that the president is proposing, at the same time though, you have some voices on the right right now that say trump's vision for significantly increased defense spending acally i't significant enough. senator john mccain pointing out that president obama had projected a defense spending increase anyway. adding that trump's plan only raises obama' numr by about 3%. here's the mccain statement. with the world on fire, america cannot secure peace through strength with just 3% more than president obama's budget. we can and must do better. a lot of numbers floating around here. joining me now, washington post white house chief joining us from the white house. phil, thanks for taking a few minutes. sort this out if you will, president trump on the campaign trail, he talked openly about wanting a massive increase in military spending. certainly he's trying to frame it this way. democrats are going to say that's too much, but you also

have john mccain saying, hey, off of what president obama was proposing, it's not actually that significant. how significant is what the president's calling for here? >> it's pretty significant. $54 billion is not pocket change. and it's in keeping with what the president campaigned on. he said over and over again at his rallies that he wanted to modernize the military. he has a belief that we've been losing the wars in the middle east for the last decade in part because our military is outdated and our equipment is outdated. he wants to change that. to do it he's going to cut into spending for environmental programs and so forth and that's going to cause democrats an awful lot of heartburn. >> do you have any sense early on what the appetite for this defense build-up is on capitol hill? is this a simple democrat, republican split on it or are we going to expect bleedover on both sides? zb >> reporter: i would expect republicans who control th houses of the congress to generally support this, but we've not seen any details beyond that $54 billion number.

i think a lot of members on the hill are going to want to look at the specific numbers, where are the cuts goings to come from? what programs are being cut and so forth. there's also a push by the way from a lot of republicans on capitol hill to change the entitlement programs to find some cost-savings there. this is medicare and social security that i'm talking about. and this white house has been very adamant that they do not want to change anything to medicare and social security. sean spicer today at his briefing actually said that that is a solemn promise that's made to our seniors in the president plans to uphold it. >> all right, phillip rucker at the white house, thanks for that. again, this is a blueprint right here that the administration's putting out here. budget blueprint. their basic priorities, some of the head lionels as we just mentioned. the big one here. the president calling for what he wanted on the campaign trail. that's a significant increase in defense spending. the defense build-up. $54 billion more next year he says than we're spending this year. how would he pay for that? you can also see here, he's

calling for cuts. you hear this one a lot in politics. especially from conservatives. he wants to cut foreign aid. also cuts to the epa, environmentsal protection agency. that statement we read from chuck schumer. the democratic leader already taking issue with some of these cuts that the president has in mind, but here's the other headline, and phillip rucker just mentioned this a minute ago. this could be a potentially major break with conservative orthodoxy and specifically with the vision of paul ryan. the house speaker, the president, he campaigned -- he said, no cuts to medicare, no cuts to social security, no entitlement cuts. he campaigned on that. well guess what, that is a big break from what paul ryan has basically built his political career on. the path to prosperity, that was the fiscal blueprint that paul ryan put together a few years ago. republicans in the house stood united behind it. what did it envision? reigning in the costs for medicare and social security. nese were major drivers of the

deficit. these were going to be major sources of fiscal distress for the country, he said we have to reign them in as a country. republicans were behind him, but now, the republican president says, zero cuts to medicare, zero cuts to social security, it will be interesting to see how paul ryan and republicans react to that. and a good way to find out, let's ask one of them. i want to bring in republican congressman roger marshall, joining us now from capitol hill. thank you for taking a few minutes. let me ask you about that, paul ryan and basically the entire republican conference there on capitol hill a couple years ago got behind this path to prosperity, said medicare, social security, these things could drive us into bankruptcy if we don't reign in the costs, now, president trump says, no cuts to medicare, no cuts to social security. are you on board with that? >> i'm on board with trying to figure this out. i'm on board with making sure that our president the house are speaking and coming up with a plan. and i do think there is a path to victory for all of us here.

>> specifically here, if you're looking at a blueprint here, potentially, and again, this is just a starting point here today the way these congressional negotiations go, but how important is it for you, for instance, to get to a balanced budget versus to preserve the promises that are made to american people, the american people when it comes to social security and medicare. how do you balance those priorities? the white house is saying, that promise is sacred. >> i certainly do believe we need a five year plan to get to a balanced budgets. and i think one of the basic blueprints is to grow this economy. and another thing we need to do is make medicare more efficient. there's premarket ideas that we have that we think we can drive that bending that health care cost downward. so i think we'll get the best of both worlds. we have to be very, very creative here. >> is it though -- do you agree with what sean spicer said today, this idea that the benefit level americans currently receive, the benefit levels that people paying in, whether it's on their paychecks for social security and medicare

that those are sacred? >> i do think that we're not going to hurt medicare in any way. i think we'll keep medicare whole. certainly my generation, the people after me, may not be able to have that same promise. but our goal is to leave medicare alone right now and said i would go after medicaid. this government spent $60 million last year on medicaid expansion. dollars on abled bodies americans. i think that's the entitlement i would go after. is medicaid expansion, for instance. >> what about flipping to the defense side of this, the president calling here for a $54 billion increase, basically that's 10% year over year. 10% increase. democrats saying that's too much. john mccain saying that's too little. where do you stand? too much, too little, just right? >> i would think it's the minimum. i think it's a minimum. and i think to do what this american public wants is probably closer to senator mccain's number. when i was on the camig trail, national security was the number two issue, very, very consistently right after the economy. so americans want us to secure the borders, they want our

police mentor stronger. a lot of money that trump is talking about is for police officers and the inner cities, my dad was the chief of police in kansas for 25 years, i think that these men in uniform perhaps they've had their back turned upon them. and we need to help them out to have better national security. >> also the issue here of russia and a potential investigation. one of your republican colleagues, darrell issa from california making news over the weekend thinking he thinks a special prosecutors needs to be appointed to look into this. there is not enough built in to the existing structure. you need to turn to a special prosecutor to the possibility of connections between the trump campaign and russia. russian intelligence. do you agree with your colleague's call? >> i'm not ready to jump that far. i'm waiting for some sound people like one of our congressman from kansas, mike pompeo who is the cia director. when somebody of quality like mike looks into this matter and

communicates with congress. then i think we'll start making some reactions, but i don't to want overreact right now. i'm concerned about national security. i'm very concerned about breaches in our security. i think the jury's still out and i want to hold my judgment a little bit longer on that issue. >> i want to ask you about obamacare as well. we can put poll numbers on the screen. nbc/wall street journal poll, what we find here currently asking people, obamacare, good idea, bad idea, a slight plurality saying obamacare was a good idea. it was a good idea to nasz law to enact this law. the significance there, that is an uptick. that's about a 10-point uptick there from before the election. support seems to be edging up for obamacare. of course you have all these protests we're seeing at town hall events across the country, you have people there saying they don't want this to be cut. l brooks, republican from alabama said he thinks the protests, his words, weakening the spine of republicans in congress to go through with a full scale repeal of this law. is it weakening your spine at

all or do you want a full repeal of obamacare? >> i would prefer a full repeal if given that opportunity, but we'll start with reconciliation and get back what we can. we've got remember, people think it's a good idea, but it's broken. it would be -- my terms, malpractice for us not to fix this thing. it's so broken. it's in a death spiral. we have to do something. i would love to have all americans to have access to quality, affordable care. but right now they don't, with the $12,000 average deductible in an exchange policy. that's not health care. so it's totally broken. it's not working. i am obligated to fix this thing. that's why my voters sent me here. >> let me ask you -- take a step back and put it this way. congressman brooks was on earlier on the air. he said look, in his mind, this should be a simple piece of paper that says the statute, the obamacare statute is repealed. that's something that congress should consider and vote on. would you vote, yes, on

something that simple? repeal the entire thing? one swoop? >> if given no other alternative, i would. for every moment we spend talking and thinking about repeal, i would rather spend five days talking about replacement and what that looks like. and let's be realistic, we're not going to be able to do what you just described. it's going to have to start with budget reconciliation and start with that step. and then we need to start reaching out, down the aisle and across the aisle to build consensus to get this right. >> all right. congressman roger marshall, thanks for taking a few minutes. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. quick break here. still ahead, the father of the navy seal killed in the terror raid in yemen now speaking out against president trump. white house spokesman sean spicer today responding. >> on behalf of the president, his son died a hero. and the information that he was able to help obtain through that

raid, as i've said before, was going to save american lives. >> father of ryan owens is calling for an investigation into that raid and it's planning. will he get one? live to the pentagon where at least three reviews are under way. plus, as president trump prepares to deliver his first joint address to congress, nbc/wall street journal poll says he's sitting at a record low approval rating. but do approval ratings mean what they used to mean? we'll look into that coming up. , i was a doer. i was active. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. she also prescribed lyrica. fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. for some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain ieved to and improve function,s. so i feel better. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these,

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us? time now for a check of the headlines at the half hour. president trump focussing on health care today. talking about his budget plan which would increase money spent on defense, national security. but also imposed cuts on domestic programs. president also meeting with executives from health insurance companies today. they talked about efforts to repeal and replace the affordable care act. also known as obamacare. trump will likely talk about both issues during a special -- excuse me, during an address to a special joint session of congress tomorrow night. that will be his first such speech as president. meanwhile, defense secretary jim mattis delivering a preliminary plan for defeating isis to the white house today. president trump now reviewing recommendations from his top defense officials. and supreme court upholding a requirement that forces groups to say who is paying for issue advertising? it's directed at candidates in an approaching election. colorado group had filed a lawsuit claiming that the disclosure would violate their free speech rights.

man arrested in an apparent racially motivated attack making his first court appearance today. adam purrington facing a first-degree murder charge as well as several other charges. witnesses say he yelled, "get out of my country" at two indian men before he opened fire, killing one of them. jewish community centers and schools in nearly a dozen states reporting they received bomb threats today. this the latest wave of threat that's stoked fears of anti-semitism in the united states. and japanese autoparts maker takata pleading guilty to a criminal charge today. also agreeing to cough up $1 billion in a fine for scheming to conceal a deadly deflect in air bag inflaters. at least 16 people have died as a result of inflaters exploding with too much force. those explosions have thrown shrapnel into drivers and passengers. the plea coming as attorneys for people suing takata saying the

car maker knows knew the products were dangerous, yet continued to use them because they were inexpensive. and space x announcing just a short time ago that it has been approached about launching a manned mission that would go beyond the moon. company saying it was approached by private individuals about carrying out such a mission toward the end of next year. space x has been launching unmanned missions carrying cargo to the international space station. and ahead of today's dualing news conferences from the top republican and democrat on the house intelligence committee, we are going to look at republican congressman darrell issa. he called for a special prosecutor to look into the trump campaign's alleged ties to russia. we have responses from top republicans, top democrats today. up next, i'm going to talk with issa's colleagues on the house judiciary committee. congressman karen bass. you were made to move. to progress. to not just accept what you see, but imagine something new.

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presidential campaign taking center stage on capitol hill today. house intelligence committee chair devin nunes, he's a republican from california. he says that so far, he has seen no indications of any connection. >> as of right now, i don't have any evidence that of any phone calls -- doesn't mean they don't exist, but i don't have that. and what i've been told is by many, by many folks, is that there's nothing there. >> however, the committee's top democrat, california congressman adam schiff, he says that any conclusions are very premature. >> the committee has reached no conclusion on whether the trump campaign colluded with russia, russian officials, or any russian contacts. nor could we. we have called no witnesses thus far. we have obtained no documents on any counterintelligence investigation. and we have yet to receive any

testimony from the fbi on the investigation of potential links between the trump campaign and russia. >> all right. joining us now, calornia democratic congresoman karen bass. she's a member of the judiciary and foreign affairs committee. thanks for joining us. let me ask you, there's all sorts of opinions out there about where this investigation, these investigations should be going. who should be conducting them? you heard darrell issa there, republican from california talking about the idea of a special prosecutor handling this. he's the only republican to take that step. you have devin nunes say nothing way, it's premature to talk about that. where do you come down on that? >> well i absolutely think it needs to be independent, it needs to be outside of congress. and i say that because it's very hard to take the chairs of the intelligence committee both in the house and the senate seriously when we know that the white house called them and asked them to tap down the concern with the media.

so to me, they are completely compromised. i'm glad that representative issa has seized the need for an independent investigation, but i will tell you, i want to congratulate all the activists. i personally think the reason why he came to that conclusion is because it is an absolute demand from his constituents, and i can tell you, it is an absolute demand from my constituents as well. people do not trust that a proper investigation would take place. and especially after the chairs of both committees say that they've been in contact and essentially advocating with the press on behalf of the white house. how do you do that? >> it is issa's district, issa won reelection in a very close race last november. he may be the most endangered house republican heading into the 2018 midterm election. there are plenty of people speculating there is an election motive, at least, in a small part inhat h doing there. that is some of the speculation. let me ask you also, congresswoman, we were talking

earlier in the show, that is the new budget blueprint that the white house put out today. this is interesting. we talked about this with one of your republican colleagues there. a break here by this white house, by this president, with conservative orthodoxy. with paul ryan, on the issue of medicare, social security spending. this budget blueprint not calling for any cuts in medicare, any cuts in social security, of course, paul ryan and the republicans were on board with that the last several years with this path for prosperity. do you consider that a sign of progress, i guess, from your standpoint as a democrat? are you happy to see this from a republican administration? >> i'm absolutely happy to see it. let me just tell you though, when i look at how much he wants to cut in terms of the billions, i believe it's over 54 billion, that certainly causes great concern. so he mentioned medicare, he mentioned social security. he didn't mention medicaid. and i'm going to look very carefully at programs for our communities that are struggling to see where he comes down on that. i do know that the epa is going

to be gutted. and i think that that's definitely a problem. here's something else. this is a president who said that we needed to not be so much involved in internationally, especially on the military front. so it just makes me wonder why so much is being put into the military. and i will tell you that from talking to my constituents over the last week during recess, one of their greatest fears of this president is that he's going to get us engaged in war. it seems a tad contradictory to say that we have too much international involvement from the military perspective, and then increase the military budget by as much as he's talking about. >> yeah, so at the same time here, the call here in this blueprint, i think it's 54 billion for an increase for military, that's about a 10% increase. the point's being made here that president obama, his administration on his way out was looking for an increase as well. some of the things that the obama administration was on board with, i think a $30 billion increase. they wanted to pay for a new bomber for the air force, a new

ballisticissile suarine for the navy. they wanted to upgrade weapons systems, they said a lot of these things were really ageing in a way that needed to be repaired. are you open to at least some increase in defense spending? >> well, i am open, especially if there's situations where, you know, military equipment and all is ageing. let me tell you where i'd like to see the military increase spending is on veterans and is on people who are active duty. to make sure that they don't default on their mortgages, that there's more support for them. and especially all of us know we need to do far more for our veterans. but, i always look at when anyone says we don't have enough money to provide schooling or programs for communities that are in trouble, i always look to the military budget. i know there's been many times when i've seen legislation passed, increase in military spending for one weapon system or another that the military says they don't need. so i'm always a little suspect when we talk about increasing

military spending. >> all right, congresswoman karen bass, thank you for the time. >> thank you. the father of navy seal william ryan owens, he is speaking out. his son was killed during a raid in yemen last month. bill owens told the "miami harold," he wants an investigation into his son's death. he says he suspects the operation was rushed. he also said he did not want to meet with president trump when he son's body was brought back to the united states earlier this month. sean spicer, the press secretary, responded to questions about the raid. >> he did this because he loved it. he cared about our nation. and the mission was successful in helping prevent a future attack or attacks on this nation. it obtained a lot of information that will help us keep safe. >> nbc news pentagon correspondent hans nichols joining us now with more on this, hans, what we've been hearing from the administration here, it did seem there was a slight change inonerom sean

spicer today in terms of how he addressed his definition of success. he did note, you can't call something fully successful if there's a loss of life in the process, but the administration has been saying, look, this was planned under the obama administration. this was something they were comfortable with on the timing. what else do we know from the administration about the back story here? >> well, the back story according to to the pentagon is that an investigation had already been under way into the death of chief petty officer william ryan owens. it's a 156, and it's done through the chain of command whenever there's a death like this. now there are two other investigations might be too strong, but inquiries. you have a critical assessment because you actually have civilian deaths. that's in that early stage of that inquiry, and when you lose an airplane like they did, there's another going on. it's a $75 million osprey they lost. and the line here for the pentagon was that this was a planned operation, they had worked on this, it went up through the chain of command and

it had been approved by the new president, but this was something that the planning had started under the previous one. but here's one thing i think we need to look for, steve, and the investigation on something like this is going to take a lot more time because it happened in yemen. this isn't a place where the u.s. has a lot of assets on the ground to figure out what happened, what exactly went wrong. yes, there will be a review, an assessment, and yes, we'll have answers, but it could take a while and perhaps not quickly enough for some of the family members of the fallen seal. steve. >> hans nichols over there at the pentagon. thanks for that. still to come, polls showing the president at a record low when it comes to his approval rating. record low compared to any new president in modern era. but how much do approval ratings mean anymore? there are some numbers we're going to get into very deep in our new nbc news wall street journal poll. we will show them to you. talk about what they might mean. that is next. it's an important question you ask,

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our victory was a victory and a win for conservative values. and our vacant rictory was a wi everyone who believes it's time to stand up for america, to stand up for the american worker, and to stand up for the american flag. [ applause ] >> that was president trump before the weekend. he was talking to his base there at cpac, the annual conservative gathering of course over the weekend we got our latest nbc/wall street journal poll, a read out on where the president stands in terms of public opinion early in his administration. look at this. the headline here, the lowest approval number. one of the highest disapproval numbers you've ever seen for a modern president this early in his presidency. the headline here, very troubling for donald trump,

obviously, but it does raise a question, considering that we just came out of a presidential campaign, that called into question how many of the traditional measure was strength still mean what they used to mean in politics? it does beg the question here, how much does the approval rating still mean. a couple things we still show you here. first of all, look at this, if we break it down, do a break down here, white, black, latino voters, what you see, something that looks pretty similar. pretty similar to what we got on election day. however, here's where the change has occurred. if you break down the white vote in this though, white respondents, white voters with a college degree, white voters without a college degree. remember this split? what jumps out at you? this looks like what we saw in the election. donald trump was very popular with blueollar white voters. this though, this is a pretty big change from electionday. on election day, donald trump actually won white voters with a college degree, he's now 17 points upside down with him.

so, slippage we're seeing with donald trump since the election, the slippage in the polls early in his administration, it's really concentrated a lot in this group of voters. the question is, how permanent is their alien nation from trump? remember, in the lead-up to the election, it looked like donald trump was going to lose this group of voters hillary clinton. he ended up winning them at least according to to the exit poll, by four points. now he's back 17 points underwater. would they come back to him like they did on election day or are they gone for good based on what they've seen early in his presidency? that's a question to keep in mind looking forward. we can also show you this, let me see if i've pulled up the right one. this is an interesting finding here, is the country going in the right direction or the wrong direction. 40% in the right direction, significantly, that is the highest that number has been in more than four years. so 40% may not look like much there, that's a pretty big uptick. it was in the 20s during the campaign. also you can see, this is a big partisan divide. probably not surprisingly. republicans, for the first time

in eight years, you are seeing overwhelming optimism from them, democrats, you are seeing just the opposite overwhelming pessimism. also, little bit of optimism on this one, again, a lot of partisan thinking, driving it, but 41% say the economy's going to improve over the next year again. that's a number, it's been about four years since the number's been that high. fall of 2012 is the last time. here's one other thing to keep in mind as this political drama plays out. check out the positive/negative scores for the top leaders in the two political parties. couple things jump out. donald trump right here, look, more people have a negative view than a positive view. we've seen that for a while right now, but look at this, more people have a negative view than a positive view of everybody and everything in national politics right now. check this out, the republican party actually fares better than the democratic party. the democratic party here sitting at 30%, 46% negative, the least popular person here in this poll, nancy pelosi, you can

see mif mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, he's low too. the top three slots in this. if you want to say top three, not that popular, but the top three are republicans right now. so it's something else to keep in mind. elections, how people think about politics when they actually have to go vote, ultimately does become a choice and the republicans compared to the democrats in our poll right now, not necessarily doing that bad. that is something else to keep in mind. a lot of numbers there we threw at you. let's break down what we see in this new poll. now i can ask bill press the first question. bill. thanks for joining us. let me ask you. that did surprise you what we just showed at the end there. democrats have been very -- i think, optimistic about their

political fortunes in these early days of the trump presidency. is that a bit of a wake-up call to them to see the negative numbers for their party and leaders? >> i think it's a wake-up call for everybody. didn't surprise me to see those numbers. i think that kind of reflects what we saw on november 8th. this is my off the top of the head read, right? that the american people are really disgusted with washington. disgusted with both major political parties. they really do want change. they don't trust anybody right now. and i think that's going to take a while to turn itself around. i'm surprised that it wasn't by much, but that donald trump does have a disapproval rating, but overall, steve, i think the fact that -- look, we cannot live by polls. you've got to sometimes do just what you think is right and ignore the polls. but it's got to be of concern to the white house that for any modern president, as you pointed out, these are the lowest approval numbers ever. and the other one that i found significant that should trouble the white house is, in the recent quinnipiac poll, question, do you trust donald

trump or the media to tell you the truth about important issues? and that was 57 trust the media, 38%, donald trump. so i think slamming of the media on a daily basis, ain't selling. >> matthew, i'm curious what your take is on the president's political standing. again, we've showed there it seems if you can concentrate the slippage he's had with the sort of white suburbanites, however you want to define them, i guess one question that comes to mind is how deep is their alien nation with the president in the early days of his administration? >> well, it's hard to say. remember, we had some shy trump voters, right? who came from that cohort of whites with college degrees telling major pollsters in the run-up to the election they were reluctant to suprt him, but then he ended up winning white voters overall. and so, obviously, revealed preference is more important that stated preference. i'd say this though, steve, i think the trump agenda, the nationalist agenda is more

popular than trump the man. and as we see that again and again in the polls, and so, that kind of gives trump an opportunity that what he needs to do is deliver. and so i think what you've seen in many polls sooechb his supporters kind of voicing criticism about say his tweeting habit. it's up to trump to provide the results. it's the question to see if he'll do that. >> there wasn't a separate question in that poll that asked people, do you dislike the president personally but like his policies? the number was fair to say higher than we've seen in the past presidents. matthew, something we've been talking about through the show. what is what the president is now proposing with no cuts to medicare, no cuts to social security, as opposed to where the republican party's been for the last few years with paul ryan saying we've got to reign in spending on the programs or we're going to face fiscal catastrophe. is the republican party going to go along with trump on this? >> yes, it did. and even if the congress is reluctant to, the republican vote ders.

we went dru this primary campaign and donald trump explicitly said he was there to protect the benefits for those who paid into the system. he fought against people who called against something like paul ryan's road map and he won. i think the debate was settled in the primary and the general election. >> bill press, i'm curious, this is a trip wire for republicans going back. newt gingrich, he tried to touch medicare, that's how bill clinton got him in the government shutdown. paul ryan against barack obama. obama made that a big feature in his campaign. if trump takes those issue entitlement cuts, medicare, social security, off the table. does that put democrats on the defensive here label the? >> i think there's a real tension that nobody's talk and we're all waiting to see explode between donald trump and republicans in the congress. i was at the briefing today where they jus -- budget director came in and gave the briefest outline of what the new

budget is, $54 billion adding to the pentagon. they have to do away with the sequester which means congress has to pass that. so it's not automatic, and you're right, president trump is on the other side of paul ryan and mitch mcconnell when it comes. president says he wants to keep medicare, no cuts, social security, no cuts to existing people on social security, nor those about to come on, nor those in the future. he wants a massive infrastructure spending program. those are all things that republicans have never gone for, and i don't think it's going to be automatic that they'll they'll give him all the spending that he wants. >> it's interesting, paul ryan today was asked about what the president is the calling for. doesn't that break with what you've been saying? he pointed to the repeal of obamacare. i consider that fundamentally entitlement reform. so that's the answer we're getting right now from paul ryan. bill press, matthew, thank you for taking a few minutes. appreciate it. >> all right steve. meanwhile as the president

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well if you were watching the oscars last night, you probably saw that add the "new york times" taken out pretty expensive time on a major broadcast and a message there clearly aimed at sort of the media atmosphere we're in right now in the early days of the trump presidency. of course the president says the media is being unfair to him. so, where do the american people stand when it comes to that question of media fairness? our most important number of the day today is 51. as in from our new nbc/wall street journal poll. news media is being on the whole too critical of the president. 41% say mostly fair objective. no big surprise here, huge partisan gap. democrats overwhelmingly say -- excuse me, republicans overwhelmingly say it is too critical. democrats say it's fair and objective. interestingly though, independents slight majority say too critical. here's a question we asked in the poll. is the media and are other elited exaggerating trump administration problems because they don't like the president.

well a majority there, small majority, but a majority, 53% agree with that. so it's our most important number of the day today, 51. that is going to do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki here in new york, mtp daily with chuck todd starts right now. if it's monday, president trump says he's going to do more with less. tonight presidential priorities. do the numbers in the blueprint add up to a conservative agenda or nationalist one? >> we have to win wars again -- >> plus -- >> nobody knew health care is complicated. >> we'll talk to one of the members who met with the president today. after ramping up with the media, former american president takes a stand. >> i consider the media to be indispensable to democracy. >> this is mtp daily and it starts right now.