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good evening it's 10:00 p.m. out west. 1:00 a.m. out west. we begin tonight with breaking news overnight. the white house has decided tonight to delay the release of the travel ban again. aids had pledged a will roll out tomorrow but it is now scrapped.
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the travel ban is blocked and meanwhile president had plenty to say about immigration and other issues hitting a different tone than trump on the campaign trail. >> the time for small thinking is over. the time for trivia fights is behind us. we need the courage to follow the dreams of our hearts. >> plenty of analysts praising the tone, mood and yes style tonight. but it's not a fashion show. style does not balance a budget or lower the cost of health care if you listen to the policies the president made he spoke of outcomes, better security and rarefully terms of plans.
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the president proposed an actual number for boosting infrastructure. >> america has spent approximately $6 trillion in the middle east all the while our infrastructure at home is crumbling, with this $6 trillion we could have rebuilt our country twice, maybe three times if we had people who had the ability to negotiation. ly be asking congress to approve legislation that produces a $1 trillion investment of infrastructure of the united states financed through private and public capital creating millions of new jobs. [ applause ] >> now that last sentence was the only detail the president offered. so it is unclear whether that would involve trillion dollars in actual domestic construction or actually the cost of tax cut
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for financial companies which might not spur any infrastructure projects at all. we'll run through more fact checks this out. let's first get to our panel. starting off with christina. a big question we ask in our political coverage, what did you think of the speech? >> i agree this isn't about tone. i suggest everyone does what i ask my students to do which is to printout the speech and read it. if you read it you will see just how dangerous it is. he talks about voice. talks about the education bill with bettys deboss at the helm. he mentioned states rights kicking it to the 38 republican
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governors. hiring freeze, that's huge. poverty and chaos in law enforcement directly effects black and lataviino families an spend morgue on military will effect those families and other social funds that are part of the actual budget. he's stuck in 1999 -- with a poverty narrative. fear-mongering. this is all in the speech. i don't care that he didn't off script he did go off script when he made a very insulting comment about owens having the largest applause. >> the record i think he was trying to say something zbloz that was not in the script. >> what did you think. >> look if you disagreed with
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donald trump's policies before tonight you still disagree with him. if you don't like who he is you still don't like who he is. one good speech doesn't make donald trump a better person but might make him a steadier present and that's the long lens. >> what was good about the speech for. >> frankly it was steady. presented almost a paul ryan-type message on hard right prince. s but the fact is he gave congressional republicans a shot in the arm, they awake tomorrow morning more confident in their agenda. in the last 40 days donald trump has got in their way. >> you're using some of the same tone we've heard tonight, the strength, the mood, he's reading off a script. >> of course. >> something we all do from time to time. the bigger question is does any of this hold or is it just what
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happens once a year when he has to give a written speech. >> right. look it's a donald trump presidency i think we will know in a matter of hours and days. this is a steady donald trump i'm not confident we will continue to see this. keep him off twitter. the proof is in the tweeting. it's a habit he has. this man doesn't change. one speech that he reads off the tele prompter that he obviously didn't write, some of it he seemed he was reading for the first time, so doesn't make him new man. will he go off twitter, i have my doubts. he will get a bump in the polls, it helps congressional repil republican sx he needs 60 votes to break a democratic filibuster
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or in some cases he needs 51 votes but that means even if they lose three republicans which they have in issues involved obamacare and border tax, cutting the state department dead on arrival, many of these proposals will never be law. >> right and there was a mix of things he wants to do as well as things he says are already working. take a listen on jobs to donald trump taking what might be the magical realism not in response to federal action or policy, not according to his words, but more the fact he's just on the job. listen. >> it's been a little over a month since my inauguration and i want to take this moment to update the nation on the progress i've made in keeping those promises. since 34i election, ford, fiat,
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lockheed, intel, many others have announced they will invest billions and billions of dollars in the united states and will create tens of thousands of new american jobs. >> we want to give people context on that. it is true there was an election and it was true after the election other things occurred. so technically the language is accurate but i want to get your response from the "washington post" trump taking credit for decisions made. many come brg the election. coming before the election, having to do with long-term goals rather than the new administration. the fiat had been in the works over a year. japanese soft banks hundred billion tech fund three weeks before the u.s. elections, it is something he talks about but was
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already ongoing. >> so this is more fraud u lent ve verbiage so it was in a nicer tone but not really different from the lies he's been telling for weeks. democrats agree if this could be done will be good for the united states. almost all of the republicans voted against barack obama's infrastructure bills, in some cases won't let them even come to the floor. the trump proposal for infrastructure is overwhelmingly tax cuts for businesses that could help build new projects but there's no money in rebuilding the solar system. rebuilding a bridge. >> exactly. >> so the real repairs can't be done under the trump plan unless he changes. >> goes to what we were saying
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in the speak. as mentioned it -- >> mcconnell said no infrastructure until 2018 so this is way off in the distance. >> even a steady donald trump is stillrcissistic donald trump. we're have ag debate over strategy. we've been debating frankly an unsteady hand. debating his personality, his attacks on the media, the judiciary, all of the things wrong about the last 40 days but tonight was a tee up of ideas over policy. let's see if it holds. i hope it does. we need a president. not outside of the article 2 coffin instituti constitutional way but as a country. we need a strong president in the white house. we haven't seen that yet. >> take a listen to president
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trump and brief remarks on the swamp. >> we have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch official it's. >> so by draining the swamp you appoint nothing but executive who's have many ties to foreign entities. >> don: to. >> to. don to. ficial it's
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with immigration he needs to figure out. his parties is very fraction with that and he has too many he can't move beyond talking about november 8th and taking credit for things he didn't do we'll see how 2018 goes. >> i heard that they're lewis available when the sun goes down but hasn't been confirmed. it's a theory. congressman what do you think congress
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. >> his policies are not physically conservative. they throw the free trade agenda out of window.
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we're going to get into politics and policies. and democrats dug in to donald trump how they should respond donald trump in the days ahead.
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welcome back to our live special extended coverage from world headquarters in new york. this is breaking news overnight. senior administration official confirming donald trump will not sign that long promise revised travel ban executive order. as recently as yesterday, white house officials were telling us in the white house and else where this will be rolled out tomorrow. now they say they want the
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speech to breathe. the speech continued to stoke fear about undocumented immigrants as well as muslims. >> our mission is to serve, protect and defend the citizens of the united states from radical islamic terrorism. according to date you provided by the department of justice, the vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorists and related expenses since 9/11 came here from outside of our country. >> we have a lot more facts on that. i will bring in christina director and author as well as jonathan allen head of community and content for "sidewire" staying up with us in d.c. christina your response to the immigration portion of the address. >> it was fascinated and exactly
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what we were expecting from him. there was talk he would soften his line on immigration but one thing about donald trump he's more interested in performing who passes legislation more about domination than about legislation so one thing to be clear about is that he is going to stick to a deportation policy that's pretty aggressive in part because it satisfies his voter who's really enjoy seeing him enact some kind of aggressive voice of domination. >> you mention voice this is brand new program for folks watching. this is proposed tonight, the president says he wants to track crime in a very different way. here's donald trump on this idea of creating this voice program. >> i have ordered the department of homeland security to create an office to serve american victims. the office is called voice.
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victims of immigration crime engagement. we are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media and silenced by special interests. >> want to give viewers couple facts, number one, it is highly unusual to track crime based on the perpetrator rather than the victim. there are programs including hate crimes legislation that looks at pattern of practice targeting people based on their identity that's disfavored in the law. the notion of focusing on the per traitor based on someone's immigration status or skin color they are more likely to commit a crime. that's fairly unusual. and -- this being a dangerous attempt with this to say --
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we can tell you legally this is not normal and not supported in the modern era. we can look at if there's an under lined criminal reason of reason it to this. national bureau of research looked at if there's higher rate of felonious crime for immigrants. they found they have institutional rates 1/5th those of native-born americans. your thoughts now that we laid out the facts. >> first you made an effort to get here probably want to stay here. in terms of building the office what donald trump is doing quite clearly is create new statistics that could he bandy about as he tries to rid the country of people who come here illegally. did not hear from the speech much new on his immigration plan. sounds like they're going
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forward with essentially a paramilitary operation out of the homeland security department to round up and deport as many people as possible. as far as the office goes, as you point out it's completely unusual, unorthodox and ultimately will lead to scapegoating of undocumented immigrants. >> that's the bigger question in this environment where there's concern about hate crimes or the tone and the realities in the country, what is the purpose of singling them out. the statistics are available, the economic bureau, this stuff is out and available. i want to also listen to, congressman king, had a response of this question will there be a softer door open on part of an immigration compromise. >> what if he talks about an idea of a legal status for some who are in the country without documentation could you live with that? >> that was something scattered around in the media but i didn't
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hear that in his speech and there's no reason to bring up the topic. we need to respect the law and the conversatistitution and the president needs to can keep his promises often immigration deeply. >> you have a deeply native segment of the republican party that doesn't want any compromise or pivot against the aggressive anti-immigrant policies like getting rid of birthship this is decriminalizizing an eck -- antecdote about criminals. it's important to distinguish regularizing status versus pathway to citizenship. regularing status has nothing do
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with pathway to citizenship. it's more a spec ackle of law passing. he knows creating terror in certain communities gives pleasure to some . >> we saw it with the angel mom on stage. these violent crimes are huge problem in this country but focusing on race -- >> -- anyone who is victim of crime is dehumanizing and racist to certain populations and does away with the fact lots of people are experiencing violent crime and have no kind of voice. >> the other thing, this is an attempt that new york times reported on this this week it's an effort to bleach america. the idea is european countries
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mostly white have suffered for bringing in immigrants and the steve bannons of the west wing would like to see americans look less diverse and the immigration policy demonizes people of color, in this case latinos and in the other case with travel bans, 9 muslims, saying we will get them out and tell them they are not allowed in. >> right it's a closing of the door. emphasis on crime. wherever this came from, it is now saying let's be less like what america has been under both parties on a long-term immigration history and try to become really like a different country. this was the argument, let's be like canada, take a listen. >> nations around the world, like canada, australia, have a
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merit-based immigration system. it's a basic principle that those seeking to enter a country ought to be able to support themselves financially yet in america we do not enforce this rule straining the public resources that our poorer citizens rely on. >> what's he talking about? >> i think it's fascinating. this idea characterizing merit, it is oddly racialized so it constitution allia constitutionalizes those who are deserving. there's a merit-based lodgidge logic that is trying to racialize and imagine a new america that is no longer populated by asian-americans and
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latin americans from other countries. >> another thing if you put together merit and banning entire countries regardless of the merit from them. you are saying merit but not applying merit. >> and we have a merit-based immigration system, at least a portion of our immigration system, the highly skilled workers portion of our immigration system is a merit-based system. donald trump likes to pretend things aren't happening that are happening that's one case where it is. he is basically saying i don't care how smart you are or how much you can contribute to our economy if you look a certain way or practice a certain religion or have a certain skin color you're not welcome here. >> right. this was very interesting. thank you for being with us. /coming up donald trump talking about health care can he deliver on it, and later, was democratic
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tonight i am also calling on this congress to repeal and replace obama daryl. replace obamacare. replace obamacare. [ applause ] >> there you see democrat representic and judy giving two thumbs down although a lot giving numbs up. >> he made a significant promise
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that may be difficult to keep. >> the way to make health insurance available to everyone is to lower the cost of health insurance and that is what we are going to do. >> back with us to break it down. jonathan we ask hard questions around here and my question for you obviously is why are you against low-priced health care. >> me i'm for low-priced health care. got to be careful with the question of access, it doesn't actually mean people are getting it, just means they're allowed to buy it. he's not saying how many will lose versus how many will gain it. he will not promising those who have health care now will be able to keep it. he is saying fewer people will probably be covered and they are going to have lesser quality health care. i think you got to listen carefully the way he says
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things. all that said it's not clear at all the republicans have the votes they need to have a plan moving forward. tonight he repeated what paul was saying, make house republicans happy but there's a problem on the right flank. >> you make a great point, i don't know if it's because you're a "star traektrek" fan, said americans have access to coverage, the key word, access. can we get the george tweet up. pay attention, access to health is not health care, i have access to ryan but he's not covering me. >> when you read the speech it's filled with untruths and lies. this is a president who told the
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american public he would have obamacare repealed on day one and he also said wow who knew. nobody knew. nobody. he was the only person of the 2 320 million americans who realized it was incredibly complex. i think it's a highly problematic issue, right now he has 38 governorships but won't always have that so he will try to backtrack. that is way down the line. he's not even going to get there. >> i want to bring up the fda issue, brought up in a heart-wrenching way but not the whole storstory. >> our slow process at the food
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and drug administration keeps too many advances like the one that saved megan's life from reaching those in need. if we slash the restraints not just at the fda but across our government then we will be blessed with far more miracles just like megan. >> that was obviously a moment of real drama in the address. you look at that. you look at the use of the word miracle. i think everyone wants miracles like that for megan and anyone around the country struggling with this. having said that let's look at the actual facts. the hurdle researchers are facing is not over coming stringent regulators, it's grappling with human biology in the lab, that goes on to report fda approval is some of the fastest in the world. what did you make of the drama of that moment and this person that i say all of our hearts
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would go out to and the fact that the information about the fda was misleading at best. >> few things here, number one, obviously the young woman there so wonderful that she lived and continues to live so much beyond the point people expected. the logic donald trump has is flawed to some degree because she got the treatment she needed. he is saying people will get treatment they needed if not for the fda well this person made it, she's doing all right. i think that there are people even within the fda who believe the process could be cleaner, ale little smoother, one of the obstacles to that at the moment is that donald trump hasn't appointed an fda admin administrator at this point. >> that seems relevant. >> and he said earlier this week that he isn't appointing people to positions because he doesn't believe those positions are necessary. if he wants to speed up the fda
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process he ought to probably hire someone. >> and the new york times reporting significant slashing in cuts for federal programs. i'm told we have to stop talking, we're going to take a quick break, coming up donald trump making several references to minorities talking about jobs, education and also crime. that's next. crest complete presents sugar shield sugar is everywhere
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the president began tonight's address to congress heralding black history month and went on to paint i vision of a unified america where children particularly the disadvantaged would succeed but only in his view if the nation confront what's he calls ramp ant crime and a lack of respect for law enforcement. >> tonight as we mark the conclusion of our celebration of black history month we are
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reminded of our nation's path towards civil rights and the work that still remains to be done. education is the civil rights issue of our time. i am calling upon members of both parties to pass an education bill that funds schools with disadvantaged youth including millions of african-american and latino children. but to break the cycle of poverty we must also break the cycle of violence. in chicago more than 4,000 people were shot last year alone and the murder rate this year has been even higher. this is not acceptable in our society. every american child should be able to grow up in a safe community, to attend a great school, and to have access to a high-paying job. we must work with, not against, not against, the men and women of law enforcement.
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we must build bridges of cooperation and trust. not drive the wedge of disunity and really it's what it is, division, it's pure unadulturated division. we have to unify. we must support the incredible men and women of le'veon bell. [ applause ] men and women of law enforcement. [ applause ] >> we'll respond after a quick break. four words, badda book. badda boom... let it sink in. shouldn't we say we have the lowest price? nope, badda book. badda boom. have you ever stayed with choice hotels? like at a comfort inn? yep. free waffles, can't go wrong. i like it. promote that guy. get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed. when you book direct at choicehotels.com. book now.
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millions lifted from welfare to work is not too much to expect and streets where mothers are safe from fear, school where's children learn in peace, and jobs where americans prosper and grow are not too much to ask. [ applause ] >> joining me now, senior advisor and spokes person for "move on.org" and steven greer. we are focusing on trump's remarks on education, inner city problems what did you think of those portions of the address. >> well, you know, donald trump likes to lump us all into one. he believes all black people live in poverty are uneducated, get shot in the street and it
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doesn't surprise me because this is, if you look at his history with race, he basically gets an f, if you look back to 1970s when the trump organization got hit with housing discrimination to the central park five, falsely accusing them of being guilty. it goes on to his foray into politics with birth a rare and -- what we saw with spreading dog whistles in his campaign and putting out overtly racist things so it's not all that surprising but that piece a lot of it is very familiar as well which is that law and order of the 1960s of nixon and reagan. very familiar conserve attive
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language. >> listen to president trump saying in the past inner cities have failed to deal with these challenges. >> i will not allow mistakes of recent decades past to define the course of our future. we financed and built one global project after another but ignored the fates of our children in the inner cities of chicago, baltimore, detroit, abd so many other places throughout our land. >> christina, part of what is present there'd is the idea that previous administration ignored those cities, chicago, baltimore, detroit, including president obama's administration. there's a reason in republican politics don't believe the hype. >> is that republican politics. one donald trump didn't say the blacks, that's highly insulting and an indicator how he sees african-americans. anyone looking at chicago knows chicago has some serious issues under rama manuel and he needs
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to either work on those or get out of the way. that's one. the fact that donald trump can can only see african-americans always in poverty, a cycle of poverty and violence who needs to be rescued. he's also not understanding black americans are large percentage of the population but we have blackim gran t immigran well. when he talks before voice and illegals he's also talking about black people and black muslims as well. >> what about the idea chicago has endemic problems after a federal democratic administration and democratic mayor. >> chicago does have a problem, we're not blind to it. there's an issue in chicago that we need deal with. but it doesn't mean that we all
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live that way like every black person lives in a community that they're getting shot and killed. problem too is that donald trump doesn't care to learn about the black community or want to learn about the black community. today he had an opportunity to finally reach people who didn't vote for him with the hbcu historically black college and universities executive order. if you read that order there's no new money, no new funding. he had, if you saw the photos from that -- >> let me push back on that a little bit. there was a photo op. >> exactly. if you talk to the people who were there after looking at the executive order there's nothing will, no new money, there's nothing will. >> that and 2.75 will get you on the subway. >> exactly. >> and the thing with chicago if he really had a commitment to black citizens in all these places he wants to lift because he just found out about them,
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it's like what about jobs programs, forwardable housing, you're talking about coal miners and industry that's have been dead for 30 years why not think of substantive jobs in cities. cities get ignored when we talk about jobs programs and we move out to the rural areas but what about sub ststantive education. >> to your point a lot of details came on the law enforcement side so will be more border agents but not a lot of details on the jobs, on education, on what that actually looks like christina greer thank you as always. careen thanks for joining. coming up why did the democrats choose the former kentucky governor instead of some of the rising stars. and was the message strong enough. that's next. when i was a navy seal,
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former kentucky governor gave democratic response to president trump 's speech tonight it got off to rough start. >> i'm a proud democratic first and first most a am a proud republican and democratic first an american. >> steve is not considered a rising star or party based
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favorite but was chosen to give the rebuttal because kentucky was obama's success story. uninsured rate go from 19 to 7%. tonight president trump saying he wants to roll it all back what did you think of the democratic unlikely choice for the rebuttal. >> it was an interesting choice. i get the sentiment what they were trying to do, former governor from a southern state, able to make obamacare very popular in that state. he made good argument for obamacare and laid out real life consequences which is important for people to hear. my critique it could have been a more diverse back ground for him to have been in. i assume there's brown and black people who live in kentucky so that was the problem i saw.
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but i get where they were going with it. >> see i actually didn't have a problem with it not being diverse. i think one of the messages democratic were trying to send we haven't forgotten about white men. one way to do that is to have a white man. but to have a former governor was a huge mistake. it made it look like they didn't the have anybody on their team currently in office and were scraping the bottom of the barrel to not have someone who is actually in the game at this point. >> we had it up on the screen there put white men in that discussion to the side for a moment, just the motion that this, what we're looking at here, is this the future of the democratic party at this moment with these issues on the table. >> that's fwhonot what they wer say what the future s they were trying to send a joe biden message, jimmy carter made this
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point last sunday, that it seemed like democrats had lifted everybody being part of their coalition except white men and that that was a problem for them and they also wanted to point out that there were a lot of white men, including a lot of trump supporter who's were on obamacare whoonld and it was a life saver. the impression republicans have made is obamacare is the other. >> and the obamacare makes a lot of sense and there's the populous question, bernie sanders gave his own type of response let's take a listen to that. >> the republicans are getting very, very worried. they're not so caulky any more about simply repealing obamacare, and they should be. those of you who attended rallies or town all meetings, keep showing up, keep calling congress and continue the fight.
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the republicans are now on the defensive and we've got to continue to push them badge. continue to push them back. >> that was a difference emphasis this year. >> it's a message that resonates guys me. he's correct. look what happens with the foun halls last week when republicans were run ago way from their town halls because they didn't want to talk about obamacare because people are very angry about losing or their health scare bei their health care taken away from them so good point bernie sanders brought home. >> democrats have the republicans on the run, they have the advantage and the odds favor them blocking repeal of obamacare. that's something that democratic should really be happy about. that this resistance works if they keep it up.
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>> we are through our special coverage. thanks for staying up late. thanks for watching. join me sunday nights 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. eastern. right now my job is not to represent the world. my job is to represent the united states of america. the time for small thinking is over. the time for trivial fights is behind us. we all bleed the same blood. we all salute the same great american flag. and we all are made by the same god. >> in his first address to congress, president donald trump strikes a drastically different tone while laying out an ambitious agenda for health care, immigration, infrastructurend

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