caucus. they depend on the same people that supported donald trump. they're not scared of paul ryan, they're scared of donald trump. these members live in fear of a donald trump tweet. >> jonathan, thank you for the commentary. that's going to do it for this hour. again, hearing from the house speaker there. much more to come on this. "mtp daily" starts right now. apparently republican rebellion. tonight, health care mutiny. >> let's not lower the bar on what we believe because we're republicans in the white house. >> the republican plan to replace obamacare is under attack, from republicans who are trashing it as obamacare light. >> i'm proud to support the replacement plan. plus, in the hotseat. the nominee to be number two at the justice department and number one on the russia investigation, on call for a special prosecutor.

we'll talk to one of the republican nominees, senator ben cardin. >> i'm confident of his judgment. and california love. as the nation's second largest city heads to the polls. this is "mtp daily." and it starts right now. good evening. i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to "mtp daily." yes, by the way, it's a tuesday and people are voting somewhere. i'm going to have that later. republicans have been waiting for six years for a republican president to join with a republican congress to unveil a plan that would once and for all repeal and replace obamacare. that day is today. and republicans may have something of a mutiny on their hands from within their own ranks. right now, it's a full court press from republican leadership and the president. paul ryan just wrapped up a news

conference attempting to get the entire republican conference on board. >> this bill, the american health care act, it keeps our promise to repeal and replace obamacare. it delivers relief to americans fed up with skyrocketing premiums and fewer choices. >> we just heard from the president, as he met with republican lawmakers at the white house today. >> i'm proud to support the replacement plan, released by the house of representatives and encouraged by members of both parties. i think really that we're going to have something that's going to be much more understood and much more popular than people would even imagine. >> meanwhile, some of the plan's fiercest republican critics wrapped up their own news conference and they ripped into the plan. there's the leadership plan that was brought forward, which i believe when y look through

it, is bisobamacare -- >> what's been introduced is not the bisobamacare replacement an repeal plan we've been hoping for. >> i think amidst we can find a pony around here somewhere. >> moments before that press conference, hhs secretary tom price made his pitch for the legislation from the white house briefing room. but oddly, he seemed to dodge questions about his support personally for the legislation. >> do you support everything on the bill on the snabl -- table? >> this is a work in process. i'm glad you pointed out the bills on the table here. >> the vice president said he was confident that the bill would be passed in a matter of weeks. here's what he told casey opportunity about gop opposition to the plan.

>> why are conservatives so opposed? >> i think we're very early in the legislative process. as the president has made clear, we're open to working with members of the house and senate about ways to improve the bill. we believe the american health care act is the right framework for replacing obamacare in the days ahead, the president and i look forward to making that case to the congress and the american people. >> important phrase the vice president just used there, don't forget it "framework." in some ways they're creating just enough distance from this bill, and it's just the beginning of this. the white house says this is merely the start of a negotiation. it seems they have a lot of negotiating to do. conservative republicans, you've been hearing from the house freedom caucus there, and republican groups are slamming the plan as obamacare light. they're unhappy with what this law keeps in tact. like obamacare, there's a penalty for folks who don't have continuous insurance. like obamacare, there are subsidies, and two core

obamacare conditions, preexisting conditions and staying on your parent's plan are left untouched. so that's the part that you can make the obamacare light. but other republicans seem to be unhappy about what this takes away. there's the rollback of the medicaid expansion. we've seen other others, the la being marked up tomorrow without any guidance from the congressional budget office. where's regular order? what happened to that phrase? it means we don't have a nonpartisan estimate of how much this plan will cost or impact the deficit or how many people it will cover. and by the way, they're supposed to mark up the bill now. on top oh of that, there's the fog of trump's own position on this. the president has been all over the map on health care. a few weeks ago, he was vouching for universal coverage. joined now by a member of the house freedom caucus.

without making an assumption of where you stand on this bill, let many ask you where do you stand on the repeal and replace bill, sir? >> good to see you this evening, chuck. i'm undecided. i'm still trying to examine it and trying to figure out if there's more pros or cons. some key issues to me -- there's a provision in it according to a summary that i got from the ways and means committee that suggests that american taxpayers are going to be responsible forgiving away money to foreign nationals and qualified il yeal to pay for their health care. so there are a lot of things that have to be looked through. in short, though, it appears to

be the largest welfare program ever proposed by republicans in the history of our country. >> you called yourself undecided at the beginning of your answer. and then to quote you, it's still the largest welfare proposal that a republican has ever introduced. so congress ann, let me ask you again, are you in favor of this bill or not? >> you probably have a pretty good idea from my remarks where i'm leaning. but i don't have a congressional budget office scoring of the bill that tells me what they think the impact on deficit and debt will be. if all of a sudden i'm surprised and this is going to ve taxpayers a lot of money, reduce our deficit, make us more solvent as a country, that could persuade me otherwise. with this administration and this president, it's the art of the deal. if suddenly the package is changed considerably to make it more platable, that can change my opinion somewhat where i stand. right now i'm keeping my options

open, but there are some major problems with the bill and hurdles for me to overcome before i can support it. >> what do you think the long-term impact could be on sort of where health care goes in this country if a form of this bill is enacted? because right now the replacement bill does look like it's going to leave a lot of the obamacare architecture in place. >> well, if you believe in socialized medicine, then you ought to be for obamacare and in favor of this replacement. because ultimately, this is a huge step in favor of socialized medicine. and that's where we're going to end up. if this legislation passes by way of example, we're going to have a continual debate from here until eternity on how big the subsidies should be. that's going to be a campaign issue every year, that overtime i think the subsidies will continue to get bigger and bigger, which means that you're going to have larger and larger deficits, which means that our

debt is going to become less manageable. we really ought to do everything we can to avoid that. >> i have been to your district. i've seen you. you are a fiscal conservative, and nobody would say otherwise. i'm curious, hearing your concern about the debt, are you concerned that there's now a republican in the white house that doesn't have that same concern about the debt as you do? >> ll, last week, president ump gave an excellent address to the united states congress. but the one thing that disappointed me is that there was not one word mentioned about our deficit and our debt and the threat that that poses to our country. i really wish that that stage opportunity had been used to impress upon the american people the precipice that we face. a precipice that can undo what it took centuries of our american ancestors to build. >> does it concern you -- if he

didn't bring it up in his speech to congress, doesn't that tell you where it is on his priority list? >> i'm hopeful that we'll be able to change that as a priority. but you've got the secretary of defense mattis, you've got mike mullen who both have testified or stated that it's our deficit and debt which is our nation's greatest national security risk. so it's incumbent upon people like myself, and the director of office of management and budget to impress upon the white house this is an issue we can no longer set aside. if we're going to save our country from bankruptcy, it needs to be the number one issue with respect to every subject matter that we address. hopefully we can impress upon the white house the seriousness of the situation. >> let me button up health care. is there one major change that

house leadership can make that will say i'll accept some of these provisions, what's to you -- what is the biggest thing you would like to see fixed in this official proposal? >> well, if we're going to have a christmas list major change, it would be to repeal in total obamacare. then implement market reforms, interstate competition for insurance carriers, eliminate the exemptions om the anti-trust legislation, things oh of that nature. competition forces pricing to be reasonable, and then send it to the states and let the 50 states decide fo themselves what kind of health care system they want. if they like obamacare, they can pass obamacare provided they can pay for it. >> congressman brooks from alabama, as always, sir, thank you for sharing your views. let me bring in our panel.

hugh hewitt, jennifer palmeri, and dan mulles. hugh, there it is. we were talking in the green room in this respect. does the republican leadership here, do they have more of a problem on the right of their party, house freedom caucus, mo brooks, i think we know where he stands, or more of a problem on the left, say susan collins, rob portman, what say you after hearing that interview in >> the critical path to passage is in the senate, and there are four republican senators who said you have to save the medicaid expansion. so they have to get it from the senate back to the house, so it is on the left side of the party they have to deal. >> i'm sorry, dan. i don't know how they do this, because here's what i do know. maybe jennifer will correct us. i can't think of any democrats

that are going to help the republican party and replace too many mo brooks' votes. >> i agree with that. there are senators that hugh knows on the right who stepped up and criticized -- >> mike lee who was at that press conference. >> rand paul is another one. so they've got that problemn the right. and they've got the problem with the medicaid expansion group, the four on the left. i don't know yet. but as everybody says, we're at an early stage of this. it's not as though this is going to sail through quickly. >> what's amazing is that the house republican leadership is trying already to sell this so hard, which tells you -- >> but without the white house -- >> first of all, do you think obamacare light is a fair description of this plan this >> yeah, it is the same -- [ overlapping speakers ] i'm -- it is keeping -- it would do a lot of damage and a lot of

people would lose coverage and it's not ultimately sustainable fiscally speaking. but it is -- i can see why -- i can see why congressman brooks has the problem he does. the freedom caucus just said it was socialized medicine. this is not going to become law. this is not going to be the congress that rolls back a benefit like this. it's never happened in history. look in the white house is hanging back. i understand it's also the position the white house is in, do we lead -- do we lock ourselves into supporting a particular bill or do you let the debate play out? it seems dangerous. >> here's the problem for the base and the republican party. let me play this montage about what's been said about obamacare the last four years. >> obamacare is nothing more than the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

>> many democrats had recently come out against obamacare saying specifically they understood now about the death panels. >> obamacare is really, i think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. and it is in a way slavery. >> obamacare is the biggest job killer in this country. >> everything about obamacare was a lie. it was a filthy lie. >> this is why -- i understand why mo brooks and rand paul are going, we've been saying this is the worst. not saying we disagreed with how they did it on the margins. this is the worst plan ever created in the history of mankind. stop. >> i believe the bill is a major retooling of the health care of the united states in that it would allow for a genuine capping for out of control entitlement. that's the center of this

reform, getting rid of the taxes and mandate. i think getting it to the senate allows step two to come forward. i don't agree it's obamacare light. but it is mostly the medicaid devolution. >> everything they've done, it seems some form of this bill, and whatever comes out of the house will be a more conservative version that comes out of the senate. how will they pass a bill that democrats won't be able t say well, we're just going to use this architecture and we're going to go back to the old medicaid formulas. seems like it's easy. >> if medicaid is deinvolved to the states, that's a significant thing. >> you're assuming they can pull that off. i don't buy it. >> republican governors have talked about that for ten years. they've never been able to figure out what's the formula that holds them -- >> until they started looking at

the details. >> they want the flexibility. but the pricing is always a problem. so that's a major -- it's a big reform and a big if and how you structure, particularly because of what's happened with obamacare, with some states expanding and some states not. that alone is a big problem. but the idea that this bill is shocking to the freedom caucus also it shouldn't be a surprise. everything that has been said about this issue as republicans have tried to grapple with it, has moved it in the direction of what the house leadership has done here. so the idea that this is somehow a shocking departure from those who say we've got to repeal it, what have they been watching for the last six months? >> very quickly, jennifer, is there a point where some democrats think why don't i get involved in this? >> i can't imagine. human nature takes over too at this point where everybody believes -- nobody likes --

that's what made it hard to pass in the first place is human nature. but people are going to believe they're going to lose something. >> you mean like all those promises of getting rid of the bush tax cuts that became permanent? >> these things -- this is an unconventional time and presidency. but some l gaws oravity till abide. >> you guys are sticking around for the hour. coming up, did the cia's classified computer hacking weapons program just get leaked for all the world to see? plus, president trump's truth telling problem. there's still no evidence to support his wiretapping claims. and he still hasn't asked to see if he's right. we'll dig into the cost of these credibility problems, next.

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should come forward with the information that led him to that conclusion. >> i don't know why the president believes this, the current president believes it about the former president. i'm sure there's a reason and it's up to him to explain. >> i wish the president had not done via tweet. this is such a serious issue. >> i'm assuming in a tweet, he's probably not as accurate as we would like him to be. >> i think the president's tweets speak for themselves. >> they do. >> well, okay. yes, that is a fact. they do have a voice. dan, this -- we are getting to the point, and i had this happen a few times on sunday, everybody is like, you can't take the president at his word all the time like this. are we in that position now? that we're -- we all have to be conditioned that everything he says or tweets is not true? >> i don't think so. i think the reaction to those tweets is evidence that people are not calloused to the idea we shouldn't pay attention.

he's the president of the united states. he made a shocking accusation. the white house has run away from it since then. the administration as a whole has run away from it. they are -- you have to wonder whether there's anybody around the president who believes there is any veracity to this story. >> hugh, it seems to me, if nothing else, the one thing i take away, there's still nobody -- >> the only piece of evidence supporting any kind of an assertion is that general flynn was subject to surveillance, because that was leaked -- >> was he the subject or the russian ambassador. >> however, my first job in the executive branch was special assistant to the attorney general. president obama would have nothing to do with a counterintelligence division. someone needs to be there to review tweets before they go

out. that tweet would not have gone outy anyone with an intelligence background. >> i know that president obama and hillary clinton were different media consumers than this president. this president wants more. you worked for two people that hated the press. the press. he's obsessed with the press. but how often would you give him reading material that you knew was potentially untrue but you thought it was important that he see it was out there? >> president obama read a lot of press. you know, he famously had it onno onnon his ipad. there were times when we would say you should not -- you should be aware of this, that this is out there. it's not true, but you may hear

about it. >> but you would say it's not true? >> sure, we would say it's not true. >> are we confident that if somebody is putting this in this clip, breitbart is writing about this, you're going to be hearing about this, but it's not true. do you think there's anybody that says that to him? >> there's no evidence that there's anybody that says it to him. >> i think they're telling breitbart what to put in. >> everything we've seen in the way he operates, that's not the case. he absorbs information he sees on tv and accepts that no matter source as credible if it fits his view of the world. >> he might be watching this, he watches fox in the morning. it is not -- i don't know what your system was. i know in the reagan white house, there was a disciplined system of information flow. i think that's gone because of social media now. >> i commend the piece that

jenna johnson wrote today, connecting what was said on fox and the tweet from the president. >> he's thrown out a conspiracy theory that hasn't been walked back. nikki haley had to contrast trump on the two-state solution. mcmasters said don't use islamic terrorism and he defied that. at what point do republicans feel uncomfortable apologizing for this? >> he's got 90% approval in the republican party. 90% of the country that voted for him believes he's speaking truth to power and they don't care about the niceties that the elites care about. they care about shattering what is a protected class. so this discussion does not penetrate into the blue state wall that collapsed. and until it does, i don't think any republican is going to say mr. president, stop.

>> it may not penetrate his supporters, but it goes beyond manhattan and washington. this is why his approval rating is so low. i think it's important that the press do treat each tweet seriously, and chase it down. but what i'm glad to see is the general public does not seem to be losing their capacity to be shocked or outraged. it's not diminishing any one act. the impact of all those things that you cited that are not true is hurting him. >> i think over time. quick word. >> i think one key is elected republican officials. >> yes. >> in a sense, more than trump loyalists in the states. if they eventually, and you have to believey will, become so uncomfortable with that style of leadership, with those accusations, then he's got a big problem. >> hugh's right, until then, they see the poll numbers.

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potential contacts between the russians and the trump campaign dominated the hearing for president trump's hearing to be the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein. that's because he's the one who will be in charge of any investigations involving russia and the trump campaign, since attorney general jeff sessions has recused himself. so that upped the stakes for this hearing. democrats are calling for a special prosecutor, but rosenstein could not commit one way or the other. >> are you willing to appoint a special counsel to examine russian interference at elections and other criminal activity? >> i'm willing to appoint a special counselor when i determine it's appropriate based on the policies of the justice department. >> how can you investigate your boss? >> if there's evidence, senator, that the attorney general and president have information relevant to a criminal investigation in this case, as? previous cases that i've handled, i'll make sure they're questioned.

you view it as an issue of principle that i need to appoint a special counsel in a matter that i don't know if it's being investigated and i view it as an issue of principle that i should not be promising to take action on the particular case. >> senator ben cardin, who introduced rosenstein at the hearing, said he's confident in his judgment on the russia issues. cardin was also the recipient of a cash of documents marked secret senate from the state department in the days before the inauguration. senator cardin joins me now. senator, let me first start with today's hearing. you introduced him and vouched for him. you're a democrat vouching for a republican president's nominee to be number two. why? >> chuck, good to be with you. rod rosenstein is a professional prosecutor. he has the confidence of all the sta stakeholders in maryland. he's been u.s. attorney for a number of years.

he's a person who basically is a professional. he's a public servant. we trust his judgment. he's shown by his leadership, going after gangs, unifying us on our attack against terrorism. he's been a person who has called it the way it should be. he has not been partisan, and we believe this was a welcomed nomination by president trump. >> what do you believe should be the trigger for a special counsel? and i know you want a special commission and there's a separate debate there. but what should be the trigger for a special counsel in your opinion? >> well, there are two separate issues here as you point out. one is getting all the information about what russia was doing. the contacts made in the united states, its intent and interfering of our election, how we can protect ourselves against these attacks. in my view, that requires an independent special commission that devotes its full time to figuring out what happened. similar to what we used when we were attacked on 9/11.

in regards to any criminal investigations, it is very clear, if there's any criminal evidence about the involvement of the trump administration or the trump campaign, then a special counsel would be necessary. >> let me go into this -- the cache of docunts, the spreading of this information and your office go name checked, i'm sure you love that. because then everybody said, senator cardin, what do you got, what do you got? but obvious hi you've been through this material. is this material that you got, is it definitive in your mind that it points the finger right at russia and what they were doing? or is it a circumstantial -- is it a list of circumstantial evidence? >> first, let me make it clear, i requested documents in my role as the ranking democrat on the senate foreign relations committee. the information was made available to the democratic and republican staff. it was marked classified, so i'm not at liberty to talk about the

specifics. but i can tell you, that prior to receive thing information, there was clear indication that russia was engaged in attacking our country. that's been substantiated in a public release from our intelligence agencies. so it's clear they were trying to compromise the integrity of our election. to me that was actionable and i've called for action. >> okay. but what -- the material that you got sent, did it reinforce this conclusion? does it add evidence? does it give -- i mean, i guess the question is this -- the thing that's missing here is how did they do it? there suspect a full explanation of how they did it and who helped them do it. how far away are we from answering that question? >> i think we know some of the methods they've deployed and used in order to get information. we know what we have to do as far as protecting ourselves against cyber attack. but we don't know everything and all of our vulnerabilities.

that's one of the reasons why an independent commission is necessary, oh that we can protect ourselves. so russia is going to try this again. they're already engaged in flnce elections in germany, france, the netherlands. we need to take steps to protect our democratic institutions. russia is using our democratic institutions to compromise our way of governance. so we know what they did. we know how they got some of the information. we know some of the methods they deployed in order to do a cyber attack successfully. and we know how they use that to create in some cases fake news and then use social media in order to bolster the importance of that news. >> you called it an attack on our country. what's the proper way to respond to an attack like that? is sanctions enough? >> i believe it was an attack. i believe it was an attack -- maybe not by a mig, but it may

been by a mouse, but we need to take the strongest steps we can to isolate russia through sanctions. sanctions are working and hurting russia's economy. we proposed sanctions because of their incursion into ukraine. we need to call russia out. we need to get all the facts before we decide how we can best protect ourselves. >> do you think we just haven't done that -- does there need to be a moment at the u.n.? what is this leading to, all this evidence? what more needs to be done? >> there are two bills that i filed in congress with republicans in order to take further action. one would impose more sanctions against russia. it would set off a democracy initiative in europe and authorize us to counter their propaganda. i think there are steps that we need to take. but i would be the first to

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you were california back when they cared. >> i did. >> let's talk about russia -- let's go to russia devin nunes. how much longer -- how much patients do you think republicans will have in congress. democrats got tired of white water after a year. when does that happen? >> i think it happens soon. i have a piece of from washington about the history of -- support of the white house, not the opposition, but the support say segregate,

aggravate and remove. >> had president clinton not slipped up in the middle, they may have compartmentalize -- you mean. >> the wall was different. i'm for a special prosecutor but it needs to be insulated -- even if it can be impacted by political appointee, they can direct questions, that's what we need to go to but it needs to have special protections. >> it seems the commission is another -- there's so many people leery of the prosecutors with people having -- >> that was a good model. >> and dissent. >> how about bob gaits and mitt

romney heading up special election on this? >> it puts the trump administration of two years of this kind of administration as to where it would lead. >> how is it different if they don't have this? >> i think it's a reality. >> i'm not saying yes or no. i'm saying the idea that this is preferable, i think if you believe the president there's nothing there. if there's nothing there, go get it done. >> nothing to hide special interesti prosecutor, let it go. >> if there's nothing no hide somebody would have -- >> called for it already. >> and revealed what is behind the tweet. >> i believe there's collusion. i believe the trump staff was in

coronation with the leaks, they were way too prepared. we have not -- we don't have direct evidence of that, i'm saying, i believe there is happening live to through it. the trump campaign was ready to go with their statement about that, whatever that leak was. >> as of the time they put that report out in january there was no evidence of that. >> right. there was no evidence -- i'm not saying -- he said there was not evidence at at time or that he knew of. i think that's -- i'm saying that's why i think there needs to be a further investigation. >> there will be. >> that is when the trump administration is in a whole other universe. >> republicans demanded special councils on the server, they got

none. it's a high standard. if the republicans on the hill say no, they will have a lot of history to back up the no. >> i guess i go to this theory which they cannot get health care tax reformed and a budget passed and investigate russia. the politics -- it over loads the circuits. if you take russia out of it. that's what i'm wondering here, when do the circuits get overloaded here in. >> put aside congress's ability to do thing, you need the president and the white house involved as well. they are ghg to be districted no matter where the investigation is. >> you are great. thank you, very much. after the break, i want to get the most of the health care bill, here's a hint, don't win the lottery. be right back.

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