hello, at just past 1:00 p.m. in the east. breaking news this hour that we're following for you. an intruder breaching the white house grounds late last night. while the president was there. we just got the information within the last hour reporting to us, nbc's kelly o'donnell at the white house. kelly, what do we know right now? >> reporter: one update, president trump has left the white house this afternoon and he has ventured about a half hour outside the city to visit one of his golf clubs, white house officials have not told us the purpose of his visit there today. we may learn more as the day unfolds. certainly doesn't feel like day

for golf, it's very chilly here. but back to the breaking news. last night at 20 minutes to midnight. officials now tell us there was a breach of the perimeter here. and as the audience is looking at the image of the white house it would be on the left side as you're looking at the screen and toward the back of the white house. we're told an individual with a back pack was able to get over the fence and to get some distance on to the grounds. the authorities say that there was no weapon or obvious hazard in the back pack or on that person. but that individual was arrested. they have not provided a name or any identity but tell us there is no criminal history or no history of being a known person to the u.s. secret service. that's notable because they do track have people who have communication with the white house they feel is inappropriate or make comments that put them sort of on the threat screen. and so this individual not in that category. we're told that uniformed secret

service also then surveying the grounds to make certain something was not dropped presumably or that there was no weapon discarded or something like that. no reports of anything being found. it is, of course, a concern anytime someone can get over the fence and on to the ground especially when the president is in precedenresidence. based on his schedule we presume he was home. we don't know if any members of the family or guests were in the residence on a friday evening. we don't know that yet. of course, in the last few years the issue has become more and more of a concern because there was an incident during the obama years in 2014 when an individual was able to breach the fence and get inside the white house. that was a few years ago, not this instance. that heightens concerns about security. there are ongoing efforts to change the perimeter fence. that would be a costly process and it's been in a planning

phase. in the short run they have added additional, what appear to be like, bike racks if you can imagine. those mobile barriers that can brought in for special events. there's a whole network of those around the property there to make it a little more difficult to slow someone down perhaps if they were heading toward the fence. there are many uniformed secret service officers and tactical people who work here every day. and from what we can gather, this apprehension happened quickly. again, that person was subduded arrested and removed from the white house and processed by the washington metropolitan police which is the normal procedure. a scare, no immediate concern that there was something more dangerous than the breach itself. and there will be a lot of questions to be asked and answered in the coming days about this. we do know the secretary of the department of homeland security which oversees the secret

service was briefed. >> often been called the best in the world, u.s. secret service making it happen and you see them all the time. thank you so much for that. i want to bring in msnbc law enforcement analyst jim cavanaugh. you've seen the developments, kelly giving us the latest update here. if you do look at the defense mechanisms, security mechanisms that are in place, one to ten, ten being the best. where are we at at the white house? >> well, we're on the low end of the scale from what we know the behavior's been up there by people trying to breach the perimeter. you know, bike racks? really, we're the united states government, we can't fix this? i mean, the president is a builder. if i was one of his advisors i'd say let's get the back hoe and concrete truck and start moving dirt and pouring concrete monday morning. we need to fix the problem that keeps coming up. you know i wouldn't put it on

the secret service. they stopped the guy. the seminal question was was he two steps from the fence or the south portico. that makes a difference how far he penetrated. that's a thing that matters. if there's a second inner perimeter fence built to the specs the secret service needs. you have to listen to them foremost. then the person may sometimes scale the first fence but never be able to scale the second fence. that becomes the high-water mark. if you look at the fence as a penetration point, the perime r perimeter's penetrated and every step is a penetration of the perimeter. after 2014 when the man made it inside to the east room, i mean, that should have never happened again. it really, really needs to be fixed. and all the stakeholders don't need to point figures at the secret service. the department of homeland

security. just fix it. nobody wants the first family in any jeopardy at all. >> kelly o'donnell is saying not a known person. does that mean not on a watch list, not having a previous criminal record? obviously that's a concern here of any connection. any alleged connection that might be associated with the individual that climbed the fence? >> right. secret service knows everybody who has made a threat on the president or vice president. they know who the people are. they keep up with them when the president goes to a city, they know who those people are in that city. they know who the people are that might come to washington. they don't know everybody who is going to be on the sidewalk outside of the mansion. if one intruder can penetrate so far, we don't go exactly where, but closer in, how far could six simultaneous intruders get in?

it seems like we're in a learning curve, we need a fence, goes into washington bureaucracy. it's studied, analyzed all the agencies that have a stake from the gsa to the white house, homeland security, to the congress. it becomes analysis, analysis and nobody's digging a hole. you need to treat it like it's a crisis. get the thing funded, start moving dirt. fix this and help the secret service instead of just jumping on their back when this happens. i'd say they did a good job. they got the guy stopped. but they shouldn't have to face that anytime in the future. >> this happening in the 11:00 p.m. hour on friday local time. and we're just getting that report here at msnbc within the last hour and a half. questions about that distance and time as well. jim cavanaugh, thank you so much. >> thanks. that's our top story this hour. also, we're watching this top story this hour.

political headlines of course, the white house ramping up its pitch for the republicans' healthcare proposal. vice president mike pence was in kentucky where he appeared to take a jab rand paul, an opponent of the healthcare measure. >> we need every republican in congress and we're counting on kentucky. president trump and i know that at the end of the day after a good and rigorous debate we know kentucky will be there and we will repeal and replace obamacare once and for all. >> here's what republican congressman charlie dent shared with me in the last hour about his reservations on this. >> too much of the discussion about healthcare has been about arbitrary timelines and deadlines to improve the base line. this discussion must be centered more around the people who are going to be impact. >> meanwhile, new reaction to the justice department's sudden firing of the 46 remaining u.s.

attorneys. here's mike huckabee, a supporter of president trump earlier this morning urging the white house to take it a step further. >> all of these people, they knew darn well when they took the job that they were political appointees and served at the pleasure of the president, donald trump kept them a lot longer than obama did, bush did, clinton did. i think they need to get the biggest dyson vacuum cleaner that has ever been made and go through every federal agency and suck out all the people they can who are not going to be loyal to this president. >> joining me now is the political reporter for the la times. we have an msnbc political analyst for usa today. heidi, i want to start with you. the white house here, the vice president, there in kentucky. it seems like it's pseudo ground zero. a state that's complex when we talk about obamacare, healthcare and what the republicans are trying to replace it with. what's your sense of the

importance of the argument being made there in kentucky? >> i think it's also symbolically important because we're getting information, richard, this morning, that states like kentucky stand to take the brunt of the loss if this plan is enacted. nate cohen from the upshot has a new analysis show ing trump voters, 59% of the people who would pay $7,500 or more a year because of the trade in on these healthcare plans are trump voters. so you know, the president may be able to with arm twisting in places like kentucky and arm twisting of conservative lawmakers make them deals, more conservative bells and whistles put on to this plan. but at the end of the day it's a careful what you wish for. when you break down the hard numbers, it is these trump voters who will be hurt the most. that is because, you know, it's simple math. when you take away the funding mechanism which is the form of

the mandate forcing people to buy into the system you're taking away the funding for the older sicker people. at the heart of this this is an ideological battle. battle between republicans who feel that healthcare is a commodity and the government doesn't have a right to be meddling in this. they don't want this to become an entitlement and the democrats who say that with obamacare people have come to have a different cultural take in the country which is healthcare is more of a right. >> talking about the conservative voices. i want to play this from senator tom cotton. >> we've got lots of time to get this right i'd rather get it right than fast. this bill as written today, simply would not pass the senate. it would not reduce prices for insurance and make care affordable and personalized. >> is that going to be the

dominant voice that's going to give the white house a problem? >> there's going to be a problem because there is some republicans who believe this is obamacare-lite. and this is part of a problem for six years since 2010, since the bill was signed and republicans have long argued it was hastily signed. people didn't know what was in it. there's been so much talk about repealing this, there's been bills. with president obama when he was in obvious he was not going to allow his signature bill to be repealed. now have a president, a republican president, republicans controlling both chambers they can do it. there hasn't been as much thought as to what the replacement will be. we're hearing from conservative voices that this -- it doesn't go -- doesn't take care of people they need to take care of. from other people that this would enshrine another sort of duty to the federal government that they don't believe the federal government is responsible for. >> estimates here are how many

folks will be losing coverage. what will be that cost? you may be about to embark in that very idea there, heidi, what is the thought here? come monday, we get the scoring, right? we'll have a better understanding of a non-partisan view on what the republicans' proposal will be. >> that is the red flag on this. some republicans are already trying to discredit the congressional budget office, which is the gold standard for judging any congressional plan in advance and saying they got it wrong on obamacare so they'll get it wrong on this. by their own account, they are concerned about the effects of this plan because they're saying, well, if it roils the insurance companies because we're pulling the rug out from the companies while still expecting them to provide all the perks of coverage for your adult children and preexisting conditions. they're saying well, maybe price who is the hhs secretary can do some regulatory reforms to calm

the markets. and then we'll have -- we'll blame it on president obama because we'll say this was collapsing of its own weight. i don't know the politically -- that that is going to work to blame obama when you've put your fingerprints all over the new plan. but knowing it's not fully kind of implemented in the way that it needs to be. you're going to need democrats to do that. >> although they did not get it right on the money the closest as the two of you know the closest of all major estimates, i do want to switch gears a little bit here. the issue of wire tapping, the ranking democrat on the intel committee, congressman schiff's claim, he expects that to be debunked on march 20th that's the date when a hearing will be happening. will that be the end of it then

in terms of that section of this look into russian connections with the trump campaign? because this is all part of the same committee. >> right, i don't think that will be the end of the inquiry into the russian ties with members of president trump's campaign at all. the wire tapping claim i think it's been interesting because after president trump tweeted that early last saturday morning, he's been much less public than he usually is. he hasn't done as many photo opand public appearances at the white house. reporters were shouting, demanding what is the evidence of this he didn't answer. sean spicer didn't answer that. even leadership on the hill, they've taken a sort of hands off approach to the claim. i don't know where we'll end up with that. it seems like people are trying to keep that sort of quiet. in terms of the russian inquiry, that's going to be ongoing. we know that members of the senate and house republican -- sorry intelligence committees are going to langley, they're

going to look at classified documents then the house is going to have a public hearing on the 20th. the senate will start sglo interviewing people. >> quick, the reason why i put that together because the president opened up a can of worms? >> i think they're hoping to bury it in a congressional investigation now because he's never told us where that information came from. and if ever there were evidence that there's no there there, not to use a cliche, but it is that comey was actually on the hill this week and both the top republican and adam schiff says there was no evidence he was wire tapped. this goes to president trump's credibility if he's then publicly embarrassed by this being disproven. but the other details and the other parts of the investigation into his ties to russia is still

very much alive. >> i'm going to bring the popcorn on march 20th. that will be interesting. thank you both i appreciate it. next a journalist and former member of parliament who first claimed trump tower was under government surveillance. she joins me. she'll tell me how the president's claim fits with her reporting. plus her response to those who doubt her story.

it's been one week since president trump dropped his wire tap bomb shell. he's not the first to claim trump tower was under government surveillance. four months ago, heat street, a year old libertarian leaning news site reported that the fbi was granted a fisa warrant which

allowed them a closer look at a server, which may have been linked to two russian banks. joining me now the journalist behind the report, louise mensch, you reported the existence of a warrant, not anything to the with the trump or trump tower within itself. >> that's right. >> thanks for being here with us. >> thank you. >> let's start with this. how does the president's claim fit in with your reporting and from what you've known since that november article? is there a connection there? >> i think it's important you made the distinction when you opened there. thank you very much. i reported only the existence of a warrant. i think in your previous segment before the break that lady sema had it bang on the money when she said the president had gone quiet. i think it's possible the president trump doesn't have a fake news problem. i think he has a real news problem, being that what if there is a wire tap at from

tower. i didn't report that and neither did any other journalist. which means if he tweeted evidence in a ongoing top secret case he obstructed justice. that's why i think the white house is being traffic. not because it's fake. the problem they have is if it's real. >> do you have any sources that are reporting that it's relevant to that thought? >> it was hilarious to be the subject of the white house. they literally never got in touch with me. they tried to say again and again i had reported surveillance on trump tower, a wire tap at trump tower i certainly did not. i reported the target of this warrant was two russian banks and that permission was given to look at previously collected material on u.s. persons. so no american was the target. the server at trump tower provided, as i reported, fresh

evidence in order for the claim to be brought back to the fisa court. but the target wasn't that server ever, it was any communication between two russian banks and involved alleged offenses of money laundering and russian money going into trump's campaign. if there was a tap, then president trump is in real trouble. obstruction of justice trouble. >> you in your article mentioned links in terms of your sources with the counterintelligence community. what are those links and what have they told you, if anything, since your initial report in november? what brings us up to date? >> you'll understand i'm not going to discuss my sources in the intelligence community. i stand by my reporting. i always have done. what i don't stand by is the president and the white house's attempt to put words in reporters' mouths. the bbc have confirmed this. i believe fox news has confirmed it. the guardian have confirmed it.

and the silence you see on the hill is because a top secret investigation that's ongoing cannot legally be confirmed or denied by anybody except donald trump decided to take his twitter account and tweet about watergate, which is hilarious because actually nixon went down for obstruction of justice and you may well find that's what will happen to donald trump as well. >> you're alluding to -- as the clock ticked here, your story and your reporting, there were questions early on we had the bbc, the guardian, then also reporting on this, then it became, if you will, more energetic around this theme line of these two banks. and the question of a computer server that was at trump tower. why do you think that arc of the way the story grew the way it did? >> first of all, the story of the existence of the server was broken at slate and mother

jones. very important reporting. right before the election, that reporting was debunked in a "new york times" story saying that the fbi found no clear link to russia. either they reported on the eve of the election which is probably why the story wasn't picked up which is fair enough. that the warrant had been granted not on the server but two russian banks and it enabled james comey to look at intelligence on u.s. persons. >> that was your reporting. >> that was my reporting. two months down the line, the bbc and the guardian managed to confirm my report. then we didn't hear much more about it because it is in fact a very secret thing, a fisa warrant. the amount of people who have access to the secret court is small and the sources are small and people are trying to independently confirm the reporting. then we heard nothing about it until mr. trump's tweet. and my world started going crazy. i thought, oh, he's confirmed

the story. terrific. and then everyone said where is this wire tap? i said what wire tap? i didn't report a wire tap. what surveillance? i didn't report it. i think the white house's desperation to find some reporter who said this is because if it's real, he committed obstruction of justice. let me perfectly plain to your viewers. >> i want to go back to the fisa warrant based on your reporting. since your initial november filing here, was that fisa warrant executed? >> i have no knowledge other than i have reported and given the way the white house has attempted to put words in reporters' mouths i think it's really important to stick to what i know to be true. i know that the granting of the warrant happened at exactly the way that reported. i also know as i did report that director comey went once in the summer in june to the fisa court, naming donald trump and three of his campaign and he was turned down. so i reported this was a second

attempt. now the bbc went a bit further two months later and reported there were two attempts in the summer and they agreed the fisa warrant was granted in october and the bbc reported the date was october 15th. if you think about when we reported this, especially my story it was only a couple of weeks after the warrant had in fact been granted. i have no idea what director comey chose to do with the permission the court gave him. >> when is the last time you spoke with the sources and what did they tell you? >> when did you stop beating your wife? i'm afraid i can't give you -- sq. >> i don't know who they are. >> never the less i have no interest in discussing anything about my sources. who knows if there is a wire tap aimed at msnbc right now. i'm going to keep my sources to myself because i owe them that. >> thank you for stopping by today, appreciate it. >> thank you. all right. we're keeping a watch on the

breaking story this hour. we've been watching the white house because we just got in the information within the last hour and a half, two hours an intruder was caught at the white house right around midnight. the president was in residence there at the time of the security. we'll have details next. "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your glasses. abracadabra. the stage is yours. step two: choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free night-instantly and win at business.

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we'll continue to follow that as we've gotten developments throughout the last hour or so. happening right now, congressman darryl issa is getting ready to face his second round of constituents today. he's holding town halls, this one in oceanside, california. last hour things getting a little contentious as he faced a largely democratic crowd. cal, now that it has ended, are there still folks around? what was being said? it's still going on? >> reporter: we're back. so this is town hall number two. the congressman now speaking to this second group of people. there are still 500 or so people outside. i have to say, the congressman and i'm going to try to talk in a lower voice so people don't heckle me so much. the congressman is unflappable. he's an eight term congressman. eight terms in office. the big issues he's been faced with today are specifically trump's involvement with russia. affordable care act, and

immigration. those are the big issues. as i mentioned outside there is about i'd say 300, 400 protesters, a number of people from plantned parenthood. >> we're here today because darryl issa is not representing his constituencies in the matter we wish to be represented. we happ i would say it's his job. and we shouldn't be passing out i guess positive things for doing just your job. i mean, we want him to represent the people. so we're here for that. >> reporter: i'm hoping you will see behind me these cards. w agree and last hour. if you see the cards say agree, it's disagree. there have been light moments. he said he thought he looked good on television. the majority of the people here,

99% of the people here are democratic certainly by leanings when it comes to their political vo viewed. i talked to three people who are here in support for the congressman. this is happening all over the country. representative issa has had protesters outside his office in nearby vista for the past month every week. people trying to get him to come out and do town halls. this is his first one. a lot of people, regardless of their political leanings are giving him credit for doing this. >> he also has had a tough election cycle in 2016. he's certainly addressing that concern as he looks forward to 2018. thank you so much cal perry in oceanside, california, during one of the rallies. the brookings institution is saying 15 million americans could lose their health insurance under the republican obamacare replacement. republicans, are they willing to take the risk politically. that's one of the questions. the views of two former rival congressmen on that.

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vice president mike pence made the case for obamacare

overhaul in kentucky. there's been a lot of push back along the way on this plan, including from several republicans. >> the bill as written is not going to pass the senate. >> this is smoke and mirrors when we suggest we're going to dupe the american people. this is obamacare with a different label. >> are you -- this proposal that -- >> yes, it's dead on aravl. >> it appears to be the largest welfare program ever proposed by republicans in the history of our country. >> joining me now, david jolly and former florida democratic congressman patrick murphy now running for a senate seat against marco rubio. i have never said former so many times in one segment. it's good to have you both. maybe you don't have a horse in the race for a moment. congressman jolly, you find a pledge to repeal, obamacare, you on board with this plan? >> the problem here and thank you for giving me such an easy bill to have to defend on a saturday afternoon. >> fun time. >> the problem here is

republicans are never going to be able to sell this to the american people if they can't sell it to republicans first. this is a bill republicans across the country don't recognize. if republicans were true to their promises in the past six years, their free market principles, they would create a multistate exchange to expand options for consumers. they would cancel the individual mandate and subsidies. they would cancel the requirement to cover preexisting conditions and block grant medicaid. that's what may have talked about for the past six years. listen, it play be because congressional republicans recognize this was not a mandate election. trump lost the popular vote. republicans lost seats in the house. perhaps they realize that obamacare-lite is the only thing they may be able to get through to the american people. >> would you agree with that even though you sit on the other side of the aisle here, congressman murphy? >> the truth is the republicans are in a quagmire.

they've been complaining about repealing the affordable care act for seven years and they have been a party of obstruction and are not ready to govern. what congressman jolly, a friend of mine just laid out, is something i've been hearing for years now about republicans' plans and what they want to do. but when they start looking at the numbers and realizing how complicated this is as apparently, you know, president trump just realized, they realize they cannot offer more coverage for more people at a lower price. without some, you know, real hiccups and that's what they're realizing right now. as it's turning out this could be one of the greatest wealth transfers in recent memory where we're going to take and severely hurt 70 million people on medicaid in this country, yet give more tax breaks to millionaire and billionaires. >> when you look at this, congressman, jolly and please do react to congressman murphy's statements there. the criticism -- we played just a little bit of it coming from the left and the right,

especially from the right here specifically. obamacare-lite. that's not going to work when you try to congeal, as you were discussing earlier the republican party to get it through the house and then to the senate. >> it's obamacare-lite and it will reduce coverage for individuals. two of the greatest challenges republicans could never accept with republican was nancy pelosi's pass it before we see what's in it and the individual mandate. the reality is republicans in congress passed it before they knew the score and coverage loss secondly they shifted the penalty to paying the insures. two of those issues have not gone away. if you left it to patrick and i we might be ail to solve this. >> we can do that. >> democrats -- >> right. >> democrats do need to answer some of the questions that are out there right now. one of the last providers in rural communities across the

country has said they might move out leaving no choices for anyone. what is the answer to that? is it increasing penalties and subsidies? more bailout for insurer. that's a product of the original aca. we have an issue we have to address in terms of loss of coverage. the answer is not in the current bill. that will not be signed into law. >> congressman, murphy if you were to stage this if you will you could go with the tweaks that those on the left have been saying could be done. those who are moderate and say yes, there are some opportunities here. is that something the two of you could agree on? those tweaks that have been talked about? >> well, this is something that congressman jolly and i have discussed in the past. i don't want to speak on his behalf. no legislation is perfect whether it whether it's dodd frank or the affordable care act. we have seen some unbelievable progress, 20 million people now have healthcare because of this. cbo, you know, the latest score

reduced, you know, $600 billion of spending because of the affordable care act. actually bending it. there are good things coming out of this. we all know there is plenty of things that need to be fixed. that's what we should focus on. let's make sure the government can negotiate with the pharmaceutical companies. we have seen plenty of examples of how expensive drugs are. let's bring down the cost. let's make baby steps. it's important to add here. there's a basic question that i believe republicans are internally debating. do they want that basic bargain that every american has access to healthcare or not. if they want that promise that everyone has it, then they have to make sure they're spreading theisk a risk and if they do thw do they insure people are getting it is it mandate? this is a big question. i don't see how this current bill in its current state ever passes. they have to go more to the left or more to the right. my gut is based on what we've

seen this bill will go further to the right appealing to the tea party, hurting millions of americans. >> both from florida, and evidently the two of you get along. that's great to hear. thank you so much congressman jolly and murphy. running for senate there in florida. appreciate you both. >> thank you. you've got some news just in to us here at msnbc. the intruder that was caught around midnight trying to enter the grounds of the white house caught. the u.s. secret service then released a statement about an hour ago, now we expect president trump to be coming to the microphone or releasing a statement about what has happened. he was in residence when that did happen. that after this.

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the white house there on the south side of the white house. and that happened around midnight. so now about 14 hours ago. the u.s. secret service released a statement saying that the back pack that was on that intruder had -- there was no concern based on the contents they found. now we are just getting remarks from the president according to what we are hearing from the pool. and he was asked this question, roughly -- i'm paraphrasing, any comment on the white house jumper alluding to the intruder. the answer from president trump was, the service did a fantastic job. it was a troubled person. it was very sad and that was what we understand roughly what president trump said in reaction to that question when he was in residence and the intruder was caught, his thoughts. we'll of course continue to follow that story here at msnbc. a short break, we'll be right back. in a gentle mist

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potentially at the state level. that's where we bring in row land martin. and now on the tv one cable network. good to see you. >> likewise. >> we're watching all this stuff that's happening basically over your shoulder but the real discussion, the real eyes and energy need to be on the state level. >> absolutely. the 2010 midterm election flipped a significant number of so what you have seen is you've seen voter suppression, all these voter i.d. laws, all these attacks on voters being attacked not by republicans but the state. alabama of the 21st century, now they've even gone more rogue the republicans there. the house they just passed a series of bills limiting from the court of appeals from 15 to 12 also taking the power away from the governor, to appoint

district yujz they also want those same trial court judges to now be partisan. so they want democrats in control there and so also, go to iowa, voter i.d. law, go to montana where they actually proposed a bill for a special election to have mail-in ballots because it would reduce cost. they oppose their very own bill because it would be helpful for democrats. texas, congressional districts there unconstitutional because they limit latino power. people had better understand. you focus on trump and ryan and mcconnell but the real problems are what you're seeing in these states and they're becoming entrenched. >> entrenched. one of the things that you're following as you talk to on your radio show every single day are those folks on the ground and one of the things coming out, north carolina, and texas, bathrooms, transgender rights and laws that are currently

being debated on the state level. we're looking at the question about immigration which you also brought up. those fights are happening on the state level. when we look voting rights, in 2016, it did not seem to resonate in that cycle? >> and again, part of that was because of the efforts by republicans to really go -- really change these laws. folks had been fighting these various laws but you have to understand even how serious this is. you don't have any support now with the department of justice. the jeff sessions doj they already made clear they're not going to accuse texas so they're not going to fight for these laws. you're not going to have any help from washington, d.c. and the department of justice fighting any of these laws, folks are getting mobilized. they're training people in new jersey, north carolina to fight what's happening in the state kpolz.

that's the real battle. it's getting ugly across the country. >> that's a really good point you're making, we saw in '14, '15 and '16 folks hitting the street more than ever before. we're not going to see any more energy than that based on the concerns about community policing and other very important topics but now we're seeing folks as we're just reporting today out with the vice president, out with darrell issa. a lot of energy and the question might be how will that translate locally to those elected. >> this is where organized and mobilizing comes in. this is why the dnc chair race was so important. you have to meeblize people early. what democrats have done they also waited six months out. no, you must do it now. that's the real issue. this is nonpartisan deal. you got other groups that are mobilizing. 2018 is going to be a tough midterm election. don't just focus on congressional races.

will you see legislatures flip. governor mansions flip. that's where the local power impacts americans more than washington, d.c. we tend to focus on d.c. than what's happening in these state capitols. >> really mobilizing and having their voice being heard. thank you, good to see you. been a while so good to see you. >> all right. let's do it. good to see you. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. thanks for watching us. breaking news from the white house we're watching remarks from president trump about the arrest of an intruder on the white house grounds. she has that.

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