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there are a lot of forces. they are pushing hard and they're in a unique position we talk about the freedom causes and congress. where they are independent republican and spirit really my colleague really scened zone hawkish in nature and trying to find answers. tiept tonight of the populist. >> ali velshi, six year term in >> all the different people that we detail in our article tonight mccain's case. his sixth term. are telling the white house and >> you and i talked about this trump himself to back away. before. i remember being at every one of those republican presidential >> ali velshi, is the head lain of this plan we know it is dead debate and lyndsey graham never and that's the effort to name it made it to the stage. ryan care on its way to the it was always fascinating. grave. >> it is interesting how this i remember thinking every time, i wish lyndsey graham can become did not play well. the white house thought it would go over better with conservatives. on stage. the problem is healthcare is something that you have to think the man has such a well, in-depth of knowledge. about ideologically. he and john mccain had a bravery either you believe everybody should have healthcare and every about them.
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their colleagues on the other side of the house. these with men who have run for developing nation in the world president. they carry a great deal of would believe. >> or, you believe that it is a weight. when you see what lyndsey graham market made system. says on tv, it is not the same you pay for your healthcare and if you cannot afford it, too bad as any senator who says you are because it is not all right. you are starting to hear yolo going to be trouble. there is a handful of people threatening the fbi and actually from florida and other have the fbi take it seriously and we may have development on republicans, look, healthcare is this fairly soon. not all right and it is a one way or another, there are calls for them to respond to system. we cannot over promise. we are over promising and congress and there is lyndsey obamacare is over promising. graham's letter. they are not coming around on >> they're going to be a lot of questions that have to be this one. they were not coming around on this one. i am puzzled that the white answered why won't the fbi just tell somebody with the clearance. >> i get that they are not house mishandled it. telling us. >> we don't have that kind of it remiended me -- they did the clearing. >> francesca on the subject of why it is happening. you sit there in the briefing math and had the votes to get it room. last night we said if it looks done. here, you split-t party. loo i can a wa like a walk back and it sounded that sean spicer was turning out scott supervis
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it is not clear that they will. >> francesca, where are they a walk back. getting that coat count to give >> today, he seems to you cwalk them that confidence? >> well, it is not entirely which was unusual. >> he said the president was clear. they think that conservatives will get behind this bill confident and right. because of what sean spicer says >> the thing that was interesting about yesterday's walk back was that he claims today. this is the best shot they have when the president says in his to repeal and replace. they are thinking that tweet wiretapping, he did not conservatives will come around on this even though there is no mean president obama had the such indication that many of justice department listening to them will, the white house did his calls ormond monitoring hi not back off the plan today. they did not hang paul ryan out calls. donald trump did say specifically that obama was there to dry. >> sean spicer is still "tapping my phone." aggressive that says this is got >> he did not mean necessarily to be done the right way. that obama was tapping his phone that there is a broad range >> that'll come in the third poer phase and the third prong they potential surveillance and a hole host of surveillance. i asked him what would fall in are talking about. that, of course, will require 60 votes in the senate. that range. that means they'll have to get he directed me to a law enforcement agency rather than some democrats to come along telling me specifically what the with them. >> i asked if they are confident
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president was referring to. >> you asked it a few times. and able to get that 60 votes in the senate. >> that press conference is the sean spicer told me yes, they second most funnest time of my are confident and they need this first phase to past. day other than this one. >> true reporter like you keep >> we can see today if watch ongoing back at them. cable news and looked at the web it becomes strange of the degree that ryan care label, that of which you evade of getting starts to boil up from the answers on these things, tha. ground. >> yeah, how speaker is just a terrible job. >> john boehner was miserable in >> francesca on a lesser topic that's one becoming an enormous that job and paul ryan, totally medium and that's your microwave is a figure now. i guess i have some sympathy for spying on you. kellyanne conway in her interviewing, you pointed it out him. he's got one o f the worse jobs did not say or ingest as a joke in the white house. >> i have to step back on him. the thing i find remarkable of that she read on a articl this story is we are zooming back to the day of "access article -- sean spicer declared hollywood" tape was released, it is worth pausing to remember what that day was like. that was said ingest and not as people thought the campaign was serious of an item wiretapping over. donald trump was goicng to step russia but a bit alternative
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out of the race. there is no way and not only can answer. this guy get elected, he could >> he said it was a joke. that's not what kellyanne conway not stay on the ballot. mike pence was going to be the republican nominee. that tape was shocking and we don't talk about it anymore. nor originally said. it is a reminder of how far we it was to clarify that she was come and the compromises that claiming president trump was spied on his microwave or people like ryan had the make television or through a telephone. >> she had read that those are ways that those are someone that could be spied on. essentially over power. the guy survived that shot and now it is coming home to some >> motorcycle cichael, one of y degree. >> i would encourage people to remember the larger picture here pieces is available online. and just what donald trump was able to come back from. it is seven easy graphics that's laid out the potential trump ties to russia. really what it told us about him for good and bad. >> i assume that ucoyou concur h >> robert. and the glue that keeps together us of the shiny project rules the relationship between speaker ryan and president trump has not that is not in effect. been any kind of personal report the intelligence committee and because everyone in these how convenience and the relationships know and this is intelligence committee cranked what ryan said back door in the up an operating. campaign. keep it together is the promise
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of healthcare and tax reform the former president wire this year. we are seeing that's starting to tapping of his office building. fray. this is a major test. the will and the interest to >> look over there. keep this healthcare bill alive. that's a great distraction. that chart kinds of bring you >> michael, as he often does. back. >> by the way -- thank you, i education raises a good point. appreciate that. >> my point is that if we map that's contemporary ousley, what all the connections that we can paul ryan is heard saying on the think of and i am getting reader conference was what most mails and phone calls that you americans household were saying forgot this one and that. the night after that event? >> it was not weird. a lot of people felt all right, someone is taking a position. >> paul ryan ran for vice president. he got dragged kicking and screaming in the house as the it is hard to be authorative. peeker position. this is a guy who feels the >> the one chart that we have in our political magazine comes out responsibility of call to duty. on all fashion paper. you could not get the whole thing online because you know whether or not you agree with you have to zoom in too much. when you look at that totality, his politics. you just have to say, this is on the next day, he felt a call of duty and he shared that to the house. we knew this is happening. exceptionally strange and it
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warrants investigations. it is odd that there are so many we knew that is a conversation people around donald trump are that took place. saying nothing to see here, this is not the story. and he was showing the there are a lot of other stories conference i am giving you you should be paying attention permission to do what you need to do. to. something unusual is going on. it seems like the right thing to maybe there is no wrong doing at do to get dragged through the the bottom. it is quite obviously warrants mud which we know is like this for further investigation. >> as my friend wolf says with the president. it seems a little unusual. everybody standby, we'll take i am not sure if you succeeded another break. when we come back. in paul ryan's honor. mr. costa is reporting tonight. that's one thing he carries with what's up with the white house verses the speaker of the white house, we'll talk about healthcare. him to work everyday. >> it is time the thank our various: (shouting) heigh! ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, robert costa and francesca new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. chambers and michael. when we come back of an update on our story having to do with altogether, the president's returns when the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. "the 11th hour" continues. these are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, to get around the plant floor. all while reducing america's emissions. right, but now ge technology monitors every machine.
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martha mccallum. feedback is what he's hearing many from his parties likely. >> the strongest voices are c e you know the only one that coming from the conservatives. breitbart posted some of ryan's cares about my returns are the audio comments about trump from reporters. a conference call back in >> no, i won, i became october. >> there are basically two president. >> president trump back in things that i want to make january saying the voters don't clear. i am not going to defend donald care about his tax returns. >> we are seeing part of his trump. not now and not in the future. you guys know i have real federal returns for the first time showing him paid concerns of this nominee. many of you on this are facing $38 million back in '05. tough reelections. tonight the dnc is firing back with respect to donald trump, i would encourage you do what's at the white house. you recall the white house came best and do what you feel you out and trying to get out ahead need to do. >> it is not the first time of this by releasing so m ing se breitbart has called out paul ryan here and some previous numbers before they were reported on air. greatest hit headlines. >> dnc statement says "the white >> paul ryan is the reason that gop is losing america.
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he's with her. house's willingness to tavares paul ryan, yes, i have a soul. lease some tax information when our panel remains with me. >> robert costa, it is your new it suits them proves donald reporting that started all of this off. what's going on between the trump's audit excuse is a sham. white house and which elements >> where does the modern of the white house and the speaker. tradition go back to where we >> on the service, the relationship is cordial and never heard a president says "i won." >> yeah, 1973, nixon was being investigated by all sorts of things. we have to show the people that the president is not a crook so he released his tax return, ironically, it did not have the desired effect. >> part of the argument of nixon is the president is the boss of the irs. how do you know the irs can fairly -- if you put out the tax
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returns, the public allows sunlight to investigate what goes on. but, in doing so when you are running for president, it lets everybody look at yos at your a and judge them. everybody wants to know what tax rate they paid or whether they took advantage of everything they could and whether it was legal and you remember what mitt romney's tax came out, he paid a low percentage but it was all legal. >> secondly, is the president following the law and paying a fair share of taxes, does he know what the rest of us go through if they don't get exposed to the taxes we pay. >> wealthy people pay a lower percentage. that's where it comes from. it is about transparency. >> donald trump never promised a transparency. other president made it a big part of their pitch. john mccain and mitt romney did
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it. they all talked about how they're going to be transparent. this is not something that donald trump has talked about. he likes to create his narrative. he's a rich man. interestingly, the election was not about donald trump's taxes. when he got elected and col kellyanne conway went on saying he's not going to release it. kellyanne conway says this is litigated and we are not going to release them. election is not a litigation. >> no one decided they did not want to see president trump's tax return. he did. >> ali velshi, the reason why we are able to describe all of this tonight. >> one last break for us and coming up why today is an important anniversary for an important american. "the 11th hour" continues after this.
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day. >> he violently ejected at high speed around 500 knotts breaking both arms. he was tortured at one point every two hours of four days. he spent two years of his life of confinement. >> because he was an admiral son, he was offered early release and he refused it. >> there are few people on the earth who have survived what he has. he's a hero by any measure. at age 80, he's in his six terms in the u.s. representing arizona. that's our broadcast tonight, thank you for being here with us.
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turned the over to a reporter. these are returns for one year. it's a federal return. this is the first time we believe any federal tax returns for donald trump have been obtained by anyone, certainly by any news organization since he became a presidential candidate let alone president.
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