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unspecified reason. this comes after a man jumped the white house lawn last friday and spent more than 16 minutes on the white house grounds before he was arrested. i want to bring in kelly o'donnell. she's in west palm beach florida, not too far from president trump's home at mar-a-lago. what are you hearing? >> reporter: this, of course is happening back at the white house. we have some nbc personnel who are there, really for just this kind of reason. if there's any sort of an incident affecting the presidential residence, we always have staff there seven days a week. so our colleagues who are there tell us they have been put on what's called lockdown. this is a fairly typical procedure. it basically means that if there's some concern that relates to security, the secret service will sort of keep everyone in their positions and they cannot walk around on the grounds. that kind of thing. so that always raises our attention. going beyond that, the information we have from colleagues is that they were
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told by u.s. secret service personnel that a -- what we call a fence jumper appeared today. now, we're waiting for additional information. we have reached out to senior levels of the secret service for details. but in a broader picture is significant because of what happened just one week ago. where jonathantran, a 26-year-old from california, jumped over the pennsylvania avenue side of the fence near the corner where the u.s. treasury department and white house grounds meet. we're told by officials in law enforcement that he spent somewhere close to 20 minutes on the grounds. that he had tripped motion censors, which frequently go off we're told from skiquirrels and animals that are on the ground. and that motion sensor being triggered didn't draw the attention of the secret service.
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the 26-year-old tranw was able o get to the back of the white house and was able to approach a door of the white house while president trump was inside sleeping, presumably, and he did not gain entry into the building. he was arrested without incident and is in the court system. that was a week ago and it drew a lot of criticism about the state of security at the white house, especially when the president is in residence. president trump is in florida with his family. he has secret service protection at maur alogo, his home here. and secret service is with his adult children and extended family. very few details about the incident at the white house. at present, we can tell you the existing white house fence has ben been an issue for long time because it's considered too easy to scale. in february, after years of analysis, a new fence was approved. construction on that will begin sometime later this year at the
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earliest and it would be 13 feet tall instead of the approximately eight foot tall fence that exists there now. the idea to try to make it much harder to climb without ruining the visual of the white house. we have an incident today, we believe there's been another breach of security at the white house. we don't know the seriousness. and it can take a while for the secret service to sort it out and give us a report. >> wondering if it's a copy cat situation considering the same thing happened, possibly last week. the same thing is happening last week. i know you're going to keep op this and bring us any updated news. i want to turn to secretary of state rex tillerson in china today meeting with top diplomats. he has an urgent message about the threat posed by north korea. let's go to janice mckay in
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beijing. secretary tillerson spoke this morning. what did he say? >> reporter: china has urged the u.s. to remain cool headed in its approach to north korea. agreeing the situation is at a dangerous cross roads but warning against the sort of preemptive military strike that the secretary of state hinted at yesterday when he was in south korea. the meetings that mr. tillerson is having with chinese officials were always expected to be a bit tense, even prickly. but the situation was complicated a bit further, with a tweet by president trump. that arrived hours before mr. tillerson touched down in beijing. effectively slamming china for not doing enough to help in the situation with north korea. china's position has always been that they're doing what they can. they joined u.n. sanctions, they recently imposed a ban on coal imports coming from the north. that's an important source of revenue for the regime.
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but tillerson says that talks now are dead. he does not expect the u.s. to go back to the negotiating table with pyongyang. here is a bit more of what he had to say today. >> i thi we sre a common view and a sense that tensions onhe peninsula are quite high right now. and that things have reached a rather dangerous level. and we've committed ourselves to do everything we can to prevent any type of conflict from breaking out. >> reporter: now, the two sides say they can work together to try to move toward denuclearization on the peninsula. china wants to do that through negotiation, whereas, again, mr. tillerson implies that all options are on the table for the u.s., including a military option. >> can you help give the viewers a little bit of context as to why china is so cautious with tillerson's sort of hardline and why they want diplomacy more
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when it comes to north korea? >> reporter: the view from china is that any sort of abrupt action would trigger chaos on china's borders. there could be thousands of refugees that could come across the border from north korea. regime collapse could have consequences throughout the region. it could be an explosive situation where there's war in asia. so these are all things that china doesn't want to realize within the region. as well they see way down the road that if there is regime change in north korea, that it could lead to a united korea, north and south korea, and given the current alliances that united korea could align itself with the u.s. so china is looking at this very strategically. they want the lowest risk option possible. however, it's going to increase pressure on china to try to use the sway that it has over
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pyongyang in order to rellializ that. >> thanks so much. turning to the first 100 days. it's day 58. president trump spending another weekend in florida. and touting the latest job numbers in his weekly address. >> we are setting up a task force in every federal agency to identify any unnecessary regulation that is hurting american businesses and american jobs. the first two job reports of my administration show that we've already added nearly half a million new jobs. the days of economic surrender for the united states are over. >> meanwhile, the justice department and its latest legal battle over president trump's revised travel ban, the justice department filing a notice of appeal to challenge a maryland judge's decision blocking it. as the white house continues to sell the healthcare bill, house republicans plan to vote on the measure thursday, which happens to be the seventh anniversary of
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the signing of the affordable care act. let's bring in democratic congressman earl bloomenhour. thanks so much for joining me. appreciate it. i want to start with the developments in the fight over healthcare reform. the house planning to bring that bill to a vote on thursday after president trump won over the support of the republican committee. right now, it looks like it will pass with a very narrow margin. what's the game plan for house democrats here? >> first of all it's not clear that there is sufficient republican cohesion to get this across the finish line. even in the house. in the senate it appears to be a non-starter. what we found is as the information comes out, you remember they didn't allow the cbo report to be made available before we acted in the house. how many millions of people are going to lose coverage. the extra costs that are going to be visited upon, especially
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older americans for their healthcare. violating the promise that the president made that would be a better system, lower costs for more people. my last conversation with the republican as i was leaving friday was that at the airport he didn't think they had the votes. we'll watch this. the more the american public see what's at risk, i think it makes it less likely that it even passes in the house. let alone the senate and being enacted into law. >> you're bringing up the cbo report that says 24 million people could stand to lose coverage under the gop plan. is there anything, congressman, that you agree with here in this plan? >> well, the plan basically unsettles the insurance market. it makes the most vulnerable people greater at risk, in terms of what it does to medicaid. shifting costs to the states that even republican governors say they can't make. and it makes -- puts at risk
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programs we've had, for example, dealing with the opioid crisis. it's really hard -- and i spend a lot of time working on this. we've tried for the last six years to work with our republican colleagues, not just to abolish obamacare. let's sit down and see if there are things we agree on and move forward. they refuse to do that. they have come up with a program that is divisive even among republicans and opposed by the american association of retired people. hospital associations. medical associations. even a number of conservative think tanks. >> congressman, i'm sorry i've got to interrupt. we have breaking news from the white house. kelly what do you have? >> reporter: we are giving you an update now. press secretary sean spicer has told us that there was an incident at the white house, but the grounds of the white house were not breached. in recent years because of security concerns, there has
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been an additional temporary barrier that appears to look like bike fencing or the type of fencing that's put in for big special events. that pushes passers by further away from the ite house. there was an incident on the north side where someone jped over the first layer of finishing. we're told that person was taken into custody. as a part of the protocol the threat level was raised at the white house. the intention of the outer barriers was to do exactly this, to slow someone down if it was their intention or their attempt to breach the white house. so this -- as we understand it now, from sean spicer through our colleagues working at the white house today. this is not a breach of the white house grounds. but still a violation because that very clearly it states that no one is to cross that barrier. this individual did. was taken into custody. and the incident apparently is now over. so it is another incident where the test was put to the secret
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service, apparently they were able to resolve it fairly quickly. but no one as far as we understand right now got on to the grounds of the white house. as we said earlier, the president is here in florida. >> kelly, has the lockdown been lifted? >> reporter: it's my understanding that they're still at a threat level as they go through the steps of their sort of enforcement procedure. but from what we understand through sean spicer, there is no open ended concern at this point. sometimes it takes a while for law enforcement to go through each of their steps. but i think based on our earlier reporting and the fact this issue is out here that the white house press secretary wanted to give us some additional insight to see this was a step below someone breaching the white house grounds. >> kelly o'donnell for us, very much appreciate it. i want to turn back to democratic congressman blumenhour. i apologize for cutting you off. we did have breaking news.
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i'm shure you understand. let's turn back to obamacare. the trump administration insisting that obamacare is collapsing here. here's what president trump said sty. >> obamacare is dead. unlesse gave it massive subsidies in a year or six months from now it's not even going to be here. we could wait for six months and a year and let it happen. it's not the right thing to do for the people. >> is obamacare dead? >> it's absolutely false. what we've had for the three years that the affordable care act has been in place, we've seen that coverage has expanded. we've seen the rate of increase of healthcare costs for the country as a whole has been lower. and we've seen that the quality of care has improved. the notion that there's a problem with it, the only problem is that the republicans and donald trump have deliberately tried to make it
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worse. they're not going to enforce the mandate. they didn't allow advertising for people to sign up. they have cast a cloud over it but despite that, anybody who reads the cbo report, that's the non-partisan umpire that calls the balls and strikes, indicates that it is working, that is working well. and if they'd work with us to try and improve going forward rather than cast doubts upon it, we'd be in terrific shape. as it stands, their proposal is going to raid medicaid money, it's going to destabilize surance rates. it's going to increase deductibles and premiums. and especially seniors from 50 to 64 are going to pay more. there's no comparison between the disaster that they want to give the american public and the success of the affordable care act. which, a majority of the american public actually want to
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maintain. >> you bring up the cbo report. they suggest in that report that one of the corrections that could be made to the gop plan would be extending the mandate to 2020. is that something that you agree with, if that were to happen it would help? >> it would help. it would make it less bad. but the point is between now and 2026, it's going to put low and moderate income people in a worse condition. it's going to raise the cost to the states. and it's going to destabilize insurance markets. just their provision that have an opportunity for no mandate but people can get healthcare if they pay a 30% premium, that's an incentive for people to not get insurance until they get sick. that's going to make it harder for insurance companies to price. it's going to mean less healthcare available in places that need more competition, not less. it is absolutely insane. and all the independent experts agree. >> all right.
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i want to take a listen to sign senator rand paul. he has taken issue with the gop's healthcare bill. he wants to take a different approach to the process. let's quickly listen. >> there's a lot of republican unito unity, a lot of agreement on repeal. it's one of the things that's brought us together more than any other issue. there isn't unity over paul ryan's plan. hi i hope we separate repeal from replace. >> are you concerned about republicans taking up that approach. >> that's always been the problem. they can vote as they did numerous times to repeal obamacare. but the issue is what replaces it? and they've never been united on that. they don't have a clear vision of what it would be. and the alternatives that have been advanced would be worse for average americans, worse for the
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states. and that's the problem they are still in that box. they don't have a plan. >> congressman, appreciate it. thanks so much. president trump and those wire tapping claims, he's standing by them despite no evidence. how long will he keep it up? that's next, everybody. ♪ ) i moved upstate because i was interested in building a career. i came to ibm to manage global clients and big data. but i found so much more. ( ♪ ) it's really a melting pot of activities and people. (applause, cheering) new york state is filled with bright minds like victoria's. to find the companies and talent of tomorrow, search for our page, jobsinnewyorkstate on linkedin. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. my psoriatic arthritis caused joint pain. search for our page, just like my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and i was worried about joint damage. my doctor said joint pain from ra... can be a sign of existing joint damage... that could only get worse.
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we said nothing, all we did was quote a certain, very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television. i didn't make an opinion on it. that was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on fox. and so you shouldn't be talking to me, you should be talking to fox. okay? >> do we have a body language expert? we need one of those. he is referring reporters to fox
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news on questions of wire tap allegations levelled against former president obama. thank you both for joining me. very appreciate it. based on what we heard from the president so far, is the source of these wire tap allegations based solely on media reports? >> i don't believe so. if you look back at the twitter history, he was making these claims before he started talking about the fox news report. recent days we saw with sean spicer in the briefing yesterday he began citing a number of news articles. that seems like it was justifying the allegations which were levelled a week ago. the other thing that's interesting the tension this has caused with great britain. the allegations that somehow great britain was doing the spying on behalf of president obama or at his request. this is like, they have come out very strongly denouncing these claims. >> i want you to weigh in on this, talking about the press conference with sean spicer, white house press secretary,
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citing remarks by a fox news analyze that obama used the british spy agency to wire tap trump. what could be the fallout from all this? bringing in a key ally into it? >> right. it's very much testing relationship with our closest ally the uk. the gchq, the nsa of the uk, took an unusual step of publicly denying the allegations. using strong language, something they don't traditionally do. it speaks to how concerned they were about it. the white house is kind of on an island. the speaker of the house is a republican, the republican chairman of the house and senate intelligence committees and the intelligencegencies in both countries says there is no uth, they have no evidence to this. it's trump going back to the kind of things he used to say on the campaign when he would say many people are saying and launch a claim without providing any evidence and trying to say he wasn't endorsing it himself.
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he was passing along a claim that was already out there. when you're the president of the united states, you can't really get away with that. i think he's going to keep facing questions on this until he backs down, which is not something in trump's dna or he apologizes or at least, you know, tries to move on. >> do you think he's going to do either of those? or is there something we don't know? >> based on the history watching him throughout the company, i don't think we've ever seen him back down on anything, really. or really apologize for very much. i'd be really surprised if that happened. what i think could happen is he stops talking about it and there's plenty with the budget, healthcare, there's plenty of stuff to talk about. >> this is going to come up monday when james comey testifies on the russia/trump probe. could this put everything to rest? >> it could. comey is the most authoritative
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figure. there is another direction this could go in which is trump's claims could be somewhat true, but that would actually redound probably negatively for trump. it would mean that an intelligence court had issued a warrant saying that there was some probable cause to investigate trump tower or trump associates. which would not be the way that trump would want it to go here. so, you know, certainly wait to see what james comey has to say. there are a lot of issues he's going to have to address. the alleged russian connections among others that he might be able to put to rest. he's been cagey in revealing information. >> a lot of people want to know what's being said. how much of it is going to be public, do you know? >> i don't know yet. that's always been one of the contentions that has gone back and forth on capitol hill about an investigation into alleged russian medalidling in the
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elections. they would do a report and after the report would be done would they decide how much would be revealed publicly. that's why they've called for a bipartisan investigation outside of congss. >> all right. thanks so much. really appreciate it. answering for the growing nude photo scandals the marine corp commandant accepts responsibility. take a listen. >> i think we're ignorant. i'm trainable. i don't have a good answer for you. i'm not going to sit here and duck around this thing. we're going to have to change how we see ourselves and how we do -- how we treat each other. >> here's the big question, how can he make sure this never happens again? coming up i'll ask that to a former marine who is dedicated to ending sexual harassment.
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white house has been lifted after someone tried to jump the fence. the unidentified person jumped the white house bike rack before being apprehended and never got to the actual fence. today's incident comes after last friday. and just a short time from now, vice president mike pence will pitch the new plan in florida. we're in jacksonville with more, talk about the expectations here. >> reporter: no doubt the expectation is that vice president mike pence will be selling the new gop healthcare bill. and the vp just landed in the state of florida. he'll be meeting behind closed doors with local business owners with what is being called a private listening session. we've seen mike pence do this in
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other places across the country. he had a similar event in louisville, kentucky. he'll be joined by the jacksonville representative john rutherford who told us he thinks obamacare would have to be scrapped. he would like to see a system that puts patients, not the government in charge of their healthcare. florida has the highest number of obamacare enrollees in the entire country. so not every gop lawmakers here in florida is fully supportive of the new bill. representatives have expressed concern. we reached out to carlos corbelo and this is what he told us. the report issues earlier this week raised serious concerns and i've been working with colleagues of both chambers to strengthen and improve the legislation. according to aarp, around
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4.3 million floridians who are pregnant, on disability, senior citizens or low income floridians stand to be affected because they depend on medicaid if obamacare is repealed. >> we'll beting t hear what vice president pence has to say. the federal government wants to buy just over an acre of land for the president's wall in texas for just $2,900. and the owner cannot believe the low ball offer. why is she scared she's being pressured to agree to it. that's come up.
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welcome back, everybody. we're talking about the gop's replacement plan. we're hearing from trump backers. nbc's von hillyard has been speaking to voters in rural states. thanks for joining us. what is the overall reaction you're hearing out there?
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>> reporter: i think it's important to take into consideration that perhaps people may be -- particularly trump voters may be opposed to the affordable care act. they say, look, we've seen higher premiums and increase in deductibles and we're required to have health insurance when in a lot of these neighbors there are not specialty doctors. in a lot of places from oklahoma to texas. a lot of places don't even have hospitals. why should we be required to pay so many hundred dollars a month if we don't have access. i have some sound bites here. this is from a deeply red conservative part of southern mm mississippi. here's those bites. >> i don't think we need a replacement plan unless they're going to put it where everybody can go to the doctor and have free healthcare and they can get seen without having to pay $500 just to see a doctor. if i was to go right now to an
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urgent care, i have to pay $192 just to be seen. that's just walking in the door. that's not counting medications i need. >> it should be like canada. we work hard for our money. we should be able to get the healthcare we need. >> reporter: a lot of these trump voters are the very ones that are impacted by -- if you look at the medicaid expansion, a place like louisiana, just talked to a woman here in baton rouge who said she's trying to get the most out of her health insurance while she can. if you compare that i was in oklahoma last we're, where there's one doctor in town. and he sees 30% of his people come in with no health insurance at all. either they don't qualify for obamacare and didn't buy a policy. their hospital closed because they weren't getting the medicaid reimbursement from the government. oklahomaecided not to expand coverage.
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en you're looking at the rural places it's not that they're opposed to health insurance. even university healthcare coverage. donald trump was the one who even said he wanted insurance for everybody. well, on thursday, the house will be voting on a bill which has the backing of donald trump and it looks much different than that. >> this is the stuff we want to hear. people who will be most affected. thanks so much, appreciate it. i want to bring in an advisor to the romney campaign. appreciate you joining us. as a conservative and a healthcare expert, you wrote an article saying the plan is great. except for the fact that millions will not be able to afford it. explain what you were thinking there. >> paul ryan, the speaker of the house has put forward plan in which everyone above the medicaid level would get basically the same tax credit to help them afford private insurance, regardless of income. if you're just above the poverty
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line you'd get $3,000. $150,000 salary a year, and married couple you'd get the same $3,000. the speaker believes that helps because economically if you get the same benefit regardless of your income you won't be discouraged from making more money because the benefit is the same. nice theory. if you do it that way you price a lot of lower income, near elderly people out of th insurance market. a number of members of congress and the senate who are working hard to fix that so you don't have a massive benefit cliff for medicaid to the tax credit portion of the healthcare system. >> you're worried about the lower income folks. you also say you like the medicaid overall which is going to slash coverage for people on medicaid. for a lot of people, that's their last resort. >> yeah, i just don't agree with that assessment. i don't think that's what the plan is going to do. the plan is going to replace the aca medicaid expansion with a
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system of tax credits so people can buy their own health insurance. >> not to interrupt you but by replacing the expansion isn't that slashing medicaid? isn't that what that means? aren't people going to lose coverage? isn't that what was sort of -- that's what was reported in the cbo report? >> so if you let me finish. the problem as i've mentioned with the paul ryan plan the size of the tax credit for those people just above the poverty line isn't enough to make sure that those individuals can buy health insurance. but if congress fixes the bill so the level of financial assistance is comparable to what they were getting under the medicaid expansion, it's actually a much better system. under the tax credit system they can shop for the health insurance they want instead of being on a medicaid plan that won't get them t access to care they need f. you replace the medicaid model with a much more flexible benefit. it would actually be better for those individuals. >> all right. you say the biggest issue is not
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making coverage appealing to sick people. i like this, but to healthy people. without the individual mandate, healthy people is not going to sign up. we heard earlier that they said they want healthcare. they will sign up. what do you have to say about that? >> absolutely. listen that's why the system needs to be reformed in the right direction. the group like rand paul would say no, any attempt to help the uninsured help healthcare is socialism. we have a tax code and a healthcare system in which we massively subsidize healthcare for wealthy people. rand paul is a big advocate of subsidizing healthcare for elderly wealthy people and upper income people. he doesn't want to subsidize coverage for lower income people come doesn't make sense. if you're a free market person you should want that benefit to be ekeulate fqual. that's what a reform bill will try to achieve. in our next hour, what to
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♪ welcome back, everybody. more than 20 women have now come forward as investigators look into a growing scandal involving members of marine corp's sharing nude photos of women in the services. commandant neller testified for the senate armed services committee and was grilled and harshly reprimanded. take a listen. >> when you say to us it's got to be different. that rings hollow. i don't knowhat you mean when you say that. why does it have to be different? you all of a sudden feel it has to be different? who has been held accountable? >> i don't have a good answer for you. ya i'm not going to sit here and
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duck around this thing. i'm not. i'm responsible. i'm the commandant. >> degrading a fellow marine needs to be increased particularly when that marine is young woman. >> joining me now, co-founder of not in my marine corp. it's a community of active duty retired and veteran marines and civilians dedicated to ending sexualharassment. you say that service women have been reporting sites like this for years and gotten ignored, laughed off by military leadership, why? why was this not taken seriously from the get go? >> i think there's several factors in that. first and foremost, back when women were reporting these sites as early as 2008 and '09, it seemed too large of an issue for the marine corp to fully grasp and get a handle on. many of the women who did report this including myself, were told this is just too big of an issue. you need to report this directly to the site or to facebook.
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so that's part of the issue. and it may just not have been taken seriously. it was seen as it's just social media. this doesn't -- this isn't something that should be on our radar. >> how did these pictures get taken initially? do you know? >> many of the photos -- i know that the headline likes to be -- this is a nude photo scandal. many of these photos were of women that were fully clothed that were taken, stolen from their social media accounts, taken while they were working in uniform on base. some of the photos we shared c within relationships, husbands, boyfriends andirriends and the non-consensual sharing happened after the fact. there are several different ways these photos came into marine's united hands. >> why don't women want to come forward on this? why is it so difficult to get them to come forward? >> there's a history within the
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marine corp and the military in general of fear of retribution. it's something we are hearing from many of our members when we encourage them to report these issues. they're afraid. they are terrified of the retribution from their fellow service members, marines. they're afraid to be ostracized from their units. many times the perpetrator of this is in their unit itself. or was even a supervisor or unit leader. so it's something that is an uphill battle that our organization, not in my marine corp, were adamant about encouraging women and men who experience harassment and assault to report. and as well as encourage -- give them a place where they can feel safe and supported when they do report. >> there is a discussion about the culture surrounding the marine corp and sort of the service in general. there is still a lot of people
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out there, erin, that think women should not be serving. period end of sentence. does this play into that? >> there are. and this is an issue that i think the marine corp struggles with the most. they've been reticent to encourage women to try and join infantry units. they have not wanted to include women in a lot of the jobs open to men. so it is a cultural issue. one that we believe dates -- can be directly correlated to a segregated boot camp. when you have half of the marine corp that does not see a female for six months, let alone one in an authority position, you're setting the up for failure. so it is something that i think needs to be discussed as an underlying cultural issue. to encourage the marine corp to review its segregated boot camp
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as well as different standards for men and women. >> i don't have a lot of time but i got to ask you this question. it's hard to put into 30 seconds. quickly, like, what was your experience? were you welcome into the cowere? into service when you were there? there? >> there -- this is not a whole blanket statement that we're talking about that all male members of the marine corps engage in this kind of behavior. so let's make that perfectly clear. there are plenty of men in the marine corps that believe that women should be serving right with them. and that do. so it's -- this is a subculture issue. but one that really needs to be addressed. by the marine corps as a whole to move forward. and also to encourage bystander intervention. we need to encourage the 93% of the male marine corps to stand up with their female co-workers to say this is not okay. this is not right. and make their voices heard. >> well, and i'm glad that you made that statement there, saying this is not sort of a blanketed thing. erin, i appreciate you lending your voice. and i appreciate your service.
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thanks so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> texans living along the border with mexico, now getting letters from the government. the government wants, and the pressure these residents say they feel, next. this is the silverado special edition. this is one gorgeous truck. oh, did i say there's only one special edition? because, actually there's five. ooohh!! aaaahh!! uh! hooooly mackerel. wow. nice. strength and style. it's truck month. get 0% financing for 60 months plus find your tag and get $5500 on select chevy silverado pick-ups when you finance with gm financial. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. chevy silverado pick-ups when you finance with gm financial. take 5, guys. tired of your bladder always cutting into your day? you may have overactive bladder, or oab. that's it! we really need to get with the program and see the doctor. take charge and ask your doctor about myrbetriq (mirabegron) for oab symptoms of urgency, frequency and leakage.
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don't even think about it. we will build the wall. don't even think about it. some of the fake news said, "i don't think donald trump wants to build the wall." can you imagine if i said we're not going to build the wall? >> that's president trump there, assuring supporters at a rally in nashville this week, the wall will indeed be built. the president says things are ahead of schedule. but one hurdle, acquiring the private property along the u.s./mexico border before construction can begin. joining me, msnbc contributor and professor at the university of texas center for texan-american studies. we're seeing reports of border residents in texas getting their first letters from the government, offering to buy their land.
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a texas observer article had a woman profiled by the texas observer, maria fluorescores. the 1.2 acres that border mexico is what the government is after. she got a letter offering just under $3,000 for this land. that doesn't sound like a lot of money for two acres. >> it's not a lot of money. and while we knew this was coming, and here in texas, it's not our first rodeo when it comes to eminent domain and border walls. 2006, we saw the same letters go out. and we saw a really tough fight. so a lot of these same landowners on the border went through this fight before. the question is, are they going to be able to hold on. and so you cite the example of this woman with her 1.2 acres. there are other folks along the border where it would be 10 to 12 acres that they would take in to build the border wall. so not only are they losing
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land, but say that you're running cattle to the border, to drink, you're also going to lose your livelihood in terms of either livestock or if you're growing cotton or something else. so this is a very big issue for the livelihood of texans here. and no one likes things being taken, especially not texans. so i think we're going to see republicans fighting donald trump on this very issue for their own eminent domain. >> i don't think texans are the only ones w don't like things to be tan from them, just to put that out there, victoria. >> i agree. >> you bring up eminent domain here. could the government actually force them to give the land over? >> in a word, yes. they could. but not without a fight. we saw in president trump's budget that he already put forward that he is going to put together a team of lawyers for the legal battles of eminent domain. so these first letters went out, nothing was said that if you don't sign this, the or else. but if they don't sign it, and
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we see the funding given to the president through congress for a border wall, that's when the legal fights are going to start up. so in the very end, he could take it. but for now, we're in a holding pattern. >> all right, victoria de francesco, did you for joining me. that's it. thanks for watching. my colleague, stephanie gosk, is up next. counts, like paperless, multi-car, and safe driver, that help them save on their car insurance. any questions? -yeah. -how do you go to the bathroom? great. any insurance-related questions? -mm-hmm. -do you have a girlfriend? uh, i'm actually focusing on my career right now, saving people nearly $600 when they switch, so... where's your belly button? [ sighs ] i've got to start booking better gigs.
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