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north korea. the secretary of state in china today after a two-day visit to south korea where he said all options are on the table for dealing with the north and its nuclear weapons program. the winners ask losers in the president's budget proposal. even some republican lawmakers say certain parts of the budget simply will not go. a look at which of the proposed cuts has lawmakers on both sides concerned. all right. beer going to start here, though, with the health care showdown. the white house is trying to shore up republican support for their obama care replacement bill. they do not have much time. a final vote may come as early as thursday in the house while republicans remain shar sharply divide odd where to support it or not. the president met with a key group of conservative lawmakers friday saying he convinced some to vote yes. well, today mike pence made his pitch directly to the people traveling to jacksonville, florida, in front of the small business owners as well as everyday citizens. pence promoted recent change in the bill hoping to get conservatives auto brd in his message. take a listen.

>> we're going to do a couple of different things with a few recent amendments that are worth mentioning, and it's in part due to the engagement we had in congress. we're going to stap any more states from expanding medicaid and adding a bird urden to futu generations. we're going to give them the advantage of block grants in the states so states like florida can innovate and design a program for its unique needs, and we're going allow states like florida to include a work requirement for able-bodied adults insuring that medicaid's benefits are available for those who need them most. joining me live from jacksonville and here on set with me is nbc's senior political editor beth. let's start with you, mariannma. sort of the reaction by the crowd, many of which were small business owners here to the

messages that came from vice president pence. >> this crowd, first of all, was a select group of invitees. this crowd was cherry-picked, if you will. they were very enthusiastic about the vice president's message. not only on health care, but also when he hit those campaign themes. immigration, infrastructure, fighting terrorism. when he appealed to the small group of florida business owners, they really seemed to applaud it. again, the vice president putting all his weight behind this new gop health care bill, but also acknowledging to some resistance in congress. let's hear it. >> this is going to be a battle in washington d.c. all right? obama care's defenders are working hard. we have to work harder. we're counting on florida. we nee every republican in florida to support this bill and support the president's plan to repeal and replace obama care.

and president trump and i -- president trump and i are confident -- we're confident that with your support, florida will be there, and we will repeal and replace obama care once and for all. >> richard, you heard sort of a shout from somebody in the crowd as he was saying that because that's what they wanted to hear today, and mike pence has sort of become the administration's point person in selling this new gop plan across the country. this is his fourth city that he has visited just this month, but here in florida and specifically in duvall county where i am now, it's a particularly hard sell. just to give you an idea, according to the aarp almost half a million floridians between the ages of 50 and 64 will be paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars more every year for coverage. that's why you have some gop

lawmakers here saying they are concerned -- there are serious concerns from them about this new gop bill, and that, as you mentioned, poelk days away from a potential vote on this bill this coming thursday. richard. >> live there for us from jacksonville, florida, with the latest with the vice president. vice president pence really pushing the message the way marianna -- salesman in chief, whatever you want to call them right now. at least right on the saturday. is he the right person to get the votes in the house, which is key going to thursday. a guy that is well known in the house. >> he is well known in the house. he has bn a member of the house. he is ideal for the president to have him up there. he understands t llative process, the whipping process of votes. he doesn't have the charisma and the broad voter support among that base of trump voters that the president does himself. there's just no comparison at all. pence has been playing the inside game.

it looks like he is playing it fairly effectively. he is up on the hill all the time. he is assuring them that the president can be counted on to make changes to the legislation if need be in order to win votes. he is trying to be sort of the grown-up in the room, if you will, up there on the hill. trump is the more unknown commodity. the guy who has never dealt with congress before, has never had a lift of this weight to take across a transome to get the 216 votes that he needs to advance this legislation over to the senate. whether they support the acha or not is going to be very essential, as has been discussed. in fact, it was believed, at least president trump saying he may have the support from -- for the bill from this group, but they tweeted here they are not in favor of the bill according to what we're hearing.

michigan's justin amass saying what he said was not true. conservatives are not flipping. freedom caucus. very essential. what are you watching there? >> freedom caucus was basically formed in response to the american -- what did it used to be called? the aca, not the acha. >> obama care. >> it was a tea party reaction to what they considered to be this endless extra spending that the government was engaged in and that the affordable care act was the worst example of that. the idea that president trump can count on any of them really to come aboard given that it is -- it continues with subsies d continues with allowing medicaid to be, you know used adds part of this, at least for several more years. most of them have come out saying decisively. jim jordan, as you have said. on the other hand, those folks that he saw on friday, the republican study group, they are a little bit more malleable. they used to be the main group of conservatives. something like half the house republicans belonged to that

group. he did bring over a group of them on friday and supposedly brought that particular group, 12 of them, over to his cause saying he had talked them into it, and they were going to vote with him on thursday. listen, it's not just the freedom caucus. it's also moderates. it's not just conservatives who oppose this bill. moderate advisory a problem with it too with the big scary cbo number that came out last week. >> thank you so much. thank you both for your help on this topic. while lawmakers in washington still working on health care, as beth is talking about, president trump has given them another major controversial issue to talk about, his budget. the proposed budget cut funding from the environmental protection agency and the departments of state labor and agriculture. democratic congressman raul of arizona. representative, thanks for being here with me right now. what of the changes either the cuts or the increases in spending are you most closely watch and why?

>> the increases. you know, trump called it a blueprint of a budget. it's not -- there is no specifics to it. what we do know, what we do is know is that you are basically gutting the e.p.a., the agency responsible for protecting public health, clean air, clean water, and for providing the scientific and factual background, two decisions that need to be made about our climate. that scares me. it should scare a lot of americans. and you look at an education with private vouchers hurting the school systems we have now, and it's hurting poor kids in general, and the list goes on. then the punitive, almost totally political mean-spirited cuts to corporations of

corporate broadcasting, humanities, the arts, the legal representation for poor people. those are both unnecessary, and i think mean-spirited. at the same time you're going to provide additional tax cuts for the very rich, and for corporate america at the expense working middle class americans across this country. it's an unfair budget, and just like they're having trouble with replace -- the replacement part of repeal, they're going to have trouble with this budget as well. >> what means the most to those who are from arizona? arizonans? >> i think the whole emphasis that all we are going to do is enforcement only and the supplemental that bush said regarding immigration and the feds and the wall and more agents, we're only going to do enforcement only, that we're not talking about any real reform to a broken immigration law, that concerns people in arizona because we've been through those wars already.

and the toxic relationship that's being built with our neighbor to the south, mexico, it concerns arizona a great deal. they are very dependent on trade and the sales revenue generated by visitors for mexico. that toxic relationship -- i think you have one issue. it's going to be health care right now. people will be eliminated by the replacement idea that's being promoted now by the freezing of eligibility and by limiting access to health care in this state, which was terribly uninsured to begin with, and because of the affordable care act, we were able to bring people on that did not have health care in this country. that concerns us. >> one of the theme attics that might come out of this, if the republicans and paul ryan doesn't get what he wants in this bill. if it's killed in a vote on

thursday, is that they'll say it's because of the democrats that this did not work. see, they're not working towards making america "great again." >> well, you know, i think americans are going to realize that, you know, our solid opposition and almost unanimous opposition to this replacement idea that trump has forwarded and rooirn has forwarded is based on the fact that we want to improve. like other things that can happen within this bill. the issue has always been take it or leave it, and at this point democrats are leaving it. it does not improve health care in this country. it will cut 24 million people out eventually. it will eventually go back to a system in which it was tolerable to have 50 million people in this country without health care. we can't support that, and we're not going to support that. >> what happens thursday? >> are we working on an

improvement? i think it's going to be a long night. i don't think they have the votes yet, and they're going to have to twist arms and force people, make deals, make trade-offs, and every trade-off they make to make their replacement worse than it is is going to hurt them. with other republicans who have constituencies that support the bill and don't want to see their health care being jeopardized. >> we'll see how leader ryan and his team do in terms of whipping votes. that's something we'll see for the very first time with a bill that is so crucial to this administration congressman, thank you. >> thank you, richard. the other big story we're following, fall-out here over president trump wrapping up his unsubstantiated wiretapping claims wrapping two allies into the storyline, britain and germany. the white house repeated an explosive claim late thursday that britain's spy agency helped -- president obama wiretap trump tower.

british officials were outraged about that statement, and they forcefully denied those allegatio allegations. then on friday the president of the united states refused to apologize to britain and instead blamed fox news and joking to chancellor merkel about how the u.s. allegedly monitored her cell phone during the obama administration. take a listen. >> as far as wiretap iping by ts past administration, at least we have something in common perhaps. and just to finish your question, we said nothing. all we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying

that on television. i didn't make an opinion on it. >> for more on this seema, says political reporter for the los angeles times. we have hunter walker, yahoo news's international krbt. let me start with you, seema. some might say we're watching -- when we talk about global relations in the united states, it's like watching somebody fall down the stairs. >> right. >> it's sort of like oh, ah, oh, ah. do you agree with that, those that are critical and describe it that way? >> i think the issue with the german chancellor, it was like ripping a scab off an old wound. that was a low point during the obama administration, the relationship with germany when the news reports came out that basically we had been tapping her phone. then the -- they had to rebuild confidence and trust. i was surprised that he brought that up yesterday. then in terms of britain, this is like our closest allies. our intelligence agencies work so closely with their intelligence agencies.

they were very offended. they say that the white house apologized to them, and the white house said we did not apologize to them. it's something that i think the story line is going to continue because this agency that spoke out, they never speak out. be they came out so forcefully saying this report is not true. >> the reason why i bring it up this way is because we look at fore t election. if you went to any of the major forums in europe orbout european politics, says preand post-brexit, it was a lot about donald trump, and then the election happened. you had more thematics about it and tweets related to international relations. for the first time, if you will, in a matter of a week we've seen visually as well as when it comes to the headlines, this come to reality in terms of the concerns that have been expressed because you just had to look at the pictures of the two leaders there. that discomfort that they've been talking about was there in front of us on the camera. >> there's been polling in germany that says between the election and now, german

now's -- a record low number of them view us as a trusted ally. we've gone down, i think, 37%. there is a real problem there, says and -- those are some of the key allies. britain is part of this five eyes intelligence alliance with us where we've promised not to spy on each other, and we share intelligence information. any friction there is a really big deal. >> the friction here can be economic as we talk about issues of international security. we cannot knock on wood within the recent weeks and in this young administration's time had a major catastrophe "economically or related to terrorism." that's a good thing. when that -- if it were to happen, this is when these relationships are tested, and when you look at what is happening in front of us, what does that tell you? shut we face one of those difficult times?

>> british intelligence agencies have said they absolutely did not wiretap donald trump, and they've also said that the white house assured them, those allegations wouldn't be aired again, and yet, since they released that statement he doubled down on it, and we also sa the president repeat the claim on fox news. also there's this really interesting story now where this came from fox's andrew napolitano, and one of his sources on this was this former cia analyst and blogger who very interestingly has also pushed out a lot of questionable stuff in defense of russia along with being a source for this allegation. >> seema, he is giving us a preview of what will probably come up on monday when we do see director comey having to deliver testimony. what do you expect to happen? >> i think this hearing is going to be fascinating to watch both in terms of whatever comes up about wiretapping and just about russian interference with our elections. there's so much ground to cover. this is a man that's pretty well

respected. the other thing that's notable is congressional leaders, leaders in the senate, republican leaders, are all saying that they do not have any evidence of wiretapping. i wonder if that expression comes through during this compete committee hearing. >> whether we hear or not whether there's ongoing investigation, and i think that's wufrt big questions related to wiretapping as well. thank you both so much. seema, and hunter. >> thank you. >> secretary of state rex tillerson says all options are on the table when it comes to dealing with north korea. he is in china today meeting with leaders as president trump puts pressure on the chinese to do more to help. military analysts colonel jack jacobs will join me to break down the options for easing tensions with north korea. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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>> i think we share a common view and a sense that tensions

on the peninsula are quite high right now and that things have reached a rather dangerous level, and we've committed ourselves to do everything we can to prevent any type of conflict from breaking out. >> secretary of state rex tillerson in china today with those statements. that was a warning that tensions with north korea are dangerously high. north korea recently launching a series of banned missile tests. the last one less than two weeks ago. the action was condemned by u.s. allies of south korea and japan. tillerson is meeting with asian leaders in the region in an effort to cool tensions and head off the possibility of a military confrontation. >> all the options are on the table. certainly we do not want to -- for things to get to a military conflict. we're quite clear in that in our communications. obviously if north korea takes actions that threatens the south

korean forces or our own rc, th will be met with an propriate response. >> the secretary of state there. will it b able to persuade china to help keep north korea in line? let's bring in colonel jack jacobs, medal of honor recipient. are we more concerned now about potential conflict with north korea than we were half a year ago, five years ago, and why? >> well, yes is the short answer. a lot of it has to do with the tests that have taken place, but i think everything started some time ago when kim jog un took over and the people that surround him took over, and they went on an unalloyed attempt to test a nuclear weapon. things started to go south some time ago. >> when we look at the new administration, the words used towards north korea and towards china, you know, a prep zbligs

out of place can actually anger any international country, any non-u.s. country because of the translations in the way the international security and foreign policy works. do you think that there's anything in that mix that has made things less good? not as good, shall i say? >> talk is always cheap. i think on both sides -- all three sides, as a matter of fact, korea, north korea, china, and the united states, there's a lot of public talk and public demonstration. it doesn't mean that things aren't very dangerous because they are. i think that everybody is trying to put a tough face on it and that may be one way to get people to the table who need to be to the table and by that i mean not north korea because they're not going to talk to anybody. i doubt if they want to talk to anybody, but the relationship, the one that really makes a difference here on the peninsula is between the united states and china. those are the people we have to talk to. >> and with regard to china,

there are two verne ak lars being used. one by rex tillerson, the secretary of state, and those coming out by the tweets and twitter account of donald trump. >> it's very difficult to try to parse what donald trump says in his tweets. that's probably best left to decide. i think it's much more important what his lieutenants say, including tillerson. general mattis, secretary of defense and so on. it's much more important what they say, but the thing that's the most important is what they do. if if there are some discussions about what the road forward looks like behind closed doors, without all the public disclosure, which is nonsense in any case, then we might be able to get away from what appears to be a deepening casm. we have to sit down with china and talk seriously. >> that kasm that is a lot of

interconnectivity here. we look at japan, south korea, taiwan. the idea of military, if you will, an arms race that could be created, that word is often used when we look at that dynamic. if you set off north korea and china, all of a sudden everybody needs to arm up. describe that a little bit more. >> well, you know, i didn't want to make light of your observation about public pronouncements because as public pronouncements frequently, especially if there are no back channels -- not convinced there have been any -- it's public pronouncements that drive governments to do what they do. our allies in the pacific are getting all agitated because of the things that the white house has said. japan is talking about rearming and there's a wide variety of our allies around the world who are because of public pronouncements are that -- >> they've been looking for reasons to arm up where. >>ell, japan has, to besure.

and so are others in asia. or ally themselves with people who are armed. it's best if we now follow-up with whatever we're seeing in public with some genuine skugs of some substance. we need a public pronouncement, public arrived at. he was half right only. we need public pacts all right, but they need to be arrived at privately, and that's the only way you are going to get them done. >> the debate multi-lateral versus bilateral because of the complexity. next, the backlash against the president's proposed budget.

here's what we're following for you at the bottom of the hour. a person is in custody after jumping over a bike rack near the white house earlier today. the suspecter made to the

actual fence. the president following his meeting yesterday with german chancellor angela merkel took to twitter this morning and then to take a jab at the media saying his talks with merkel went well despite what you heard from fake news. he also tweeted that germany owes vast sums of money to nato and the u.s. also that the united states must be paid more for the defense it provides to that nation. so far no response from germany on that. they say budgets are a statement of priorities. in that idea then the president's recent proposal suggests he does not have much use for programs outside of the military. the list of programs targeted for elimination includes the corporation for public broadcasting, the wilson center for international scholars, the national endowment for the arts, the national endorse do youment for the humanities appalachian region app. $1.2 billion to eliminate after

school programs for two million needy kids. $6.it billion to eliminate housing assistance to families that are homeless or cannot pay their rent. $3 billion to eliminate the community development block grant. that grant provides services to the impoverished. that includes meals on wheels. the poorest americans are the ones who will feel the sharpest sting of most of these proposals. the list was long. we wanted to get into the details because much of these cuts, though, relatively small compared to necessarily the defense budget affects so many people that are at the lower rung when you take a look at the socio-economic scale. which -- >> it's the whole packa tother because basically what this is a surrender of the war

pov that was begun by president kennedy followed by president johnson and continued by republicans. the community of development block grants, the community service block grants are all bundles of directed programs that republicans said let's take and make them block grants so that local communities can -- are better positioned to make the decision on how to use the money to meet the needs of poor and low income people in their own neighborhoods. that was done first under ford. then it was done under reagan. now it's just a wholesale elimination of all of this, and the federal government saying we're abandoning poor people. if anything put together with health care reform, it's a war on poor people, and you, states, it's up to you to pick up the pieces. >> when i visited food banks across the country for our reporting here at msnbc, you look at housing, when i'm out there looking at those who need housing and who are under current benefit of federal housing plans and grants and

subsidies, it seems at least when you talk to the people on the ground, things have not gotten better in the last several years. >> it's actually ironic because the communities that are going to receive the worst impact from these cuts are in if the states that voted for this president, that vote historically red for republicans, poor states, rural states. they're the ones that are going to suffer more than new york or california or illinois from this kind of attack because there's no way that those state governments are going to pick up the pieces. instead people are just going to be driven deeper and deeper into poverty. >> let's go back to where you started. the idea as you so well noted was that let's make the grants

local. whether it be on the county or city or on the state level. what's the right way to employ that idea. that is what this administration would like to do. >> that's exactly what reagan did with the community service block grants. now, indeed, he whacked them by 25%, but he bundled 85 different programs into single multi-billion dollar programs that got allocated on a formula based on poverty and other indicators and each community has done its own planning process. the same with the community development block grants that were put in place by general ford. where each community does its own planning process based on data and uses those resources to enhance its local efforts. >> that's the compromise you would like to see this republican administration use. what's the number that you watch? we look at all the indicators. unemployment, for instance. gdp growth.

>> that's the indicator that we need to be looking at. not everybody is going to be able to make it in this economy and particularly as we shift to an economy that requires more and more education to be able to compete. if you look at the education budget, all of those cuts that target, you know, after school programs, summer programs, the supplemental grant program that goes to poor children to enhance their ability to go to college, being wholesale eliminated, work study that helps low income students work their way through college. all of the things that would give people a boot up to be able to compete and participate in the economy benefit from a growing ecomy are ju being taken away. >> all right. >> that's why i call it a war on the poor as opposed a war on

poverty. >> charles king, thank you for stopping by and giving us your view, given the work that you do, offering community services. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. now i would like to bring in chris lou who served under president obama, and donald woodhouse. thank you both for being here. dallas, i'll start with you on this. what's your thought about what charles was telling us. war on poverty, it doesn't seem to at least charles that this is continuing now as a war against them, specifically where are. >> well, of course, what we know about the war on poverty is poverty won. too much government intervention has kept people from being able to use their talents wisely. too much government waste and fraud and bureaucracy and abuse, and i think we can trim back some of these programs. states can pick up the needed areas. also, there are other government programs that do some of these things, and i believe the voters

wanted to see president trump the out of the control spending in america. i think you're seeing that. >> chris, when you look at -- he is basically saying one solution that worked well in the past was under the reagan administration. yet, those infrastructures are not there. if these federal -- if the federal cuts that had been suggested by the trump administration are employed, should they wait until those infrastructures are in place. those community block grants that he was talking about. >> i'm not opposed to giving state and local governments more authority, but, you know, as you point the oud very well, this is a budget of remarkable cruelty. you highlighted some of the cuts, whether it was meals on wheelds, after school programs, but it's also a budget of contradictions as well. you have a president who ran on increasing infrastructure spenng, and then cut the department of transportation by 500 million. he cut support for small

manufacturers even though he wants to bring back manufacturing jobs. you pointed out the cut that he made to the appalachian regional commission. this is a budget of cruelty and one of contradictions as well. they don't figure out how they're going to make up the money at the state and local level. >> you know, we could -- many, many times throughout the years. >> -- the schools are going to close down. the elderly are going to be thrown out in the streets. it's not the case. there are many redundant programs in our federal government, and some good things that ought to happen ought not necessarily be done by the federal government. those are not the primary role of the federal government. this is a sad song that we've heard many times throughout the year that doesn't turn out -- >> you may agree with this here. especially when i'll give you one quote here from a ohio voter

who did vote for donald trump said this. i understand what he is trying to do, but i think he is just not stopping to think that there are people caught in the middle. he is really going to hurt. dallas, this is that question again that i was posing there to the deputy secretary here, and that is the idea seems to have been good -- charles king was saying under the reagan administration, that would have worked. he was basically saying this administration is maybe moving too quickly without putting that idea in place. when you listen to a voter here, they're saying the same thing. would you agree? >> you know, i mean, i think that conservatives like myself want to see a dereduction in federal spding. we continue to add the dicit every year. you can move this stuff around ask do it a different way, but if you are going to keep spending bad dollar after bad

dollar, you're going to continue to have a problem. i fundamentally believe in the generosity of the american people that when they see their community in need, here this week in raleigh, north carolina, we had a massive fire in downtown raleigh, and we've seen an outpouring of community support helping each other. i think if there are gaps in the system, we will see the private sector, our churches, our community groups, the lion's club come in and fill those gaps. sometimes we have to trim back the federal bureaucracy and the federal machinery. >> charles make the right point. there are state government that is cannic ma up the difference. i have no doubt that new york and california could do that, but not all states have the resources to do that, so when you cut the federal spending and there's no guarantee that state and local governments will step up to the plate. there are people that are going to be hurt. >> chris lou, dallas woodhouse, thank you both. >> thank you. >> gunfire at a paris airport after a man tries to grab a soldier's rifle. more details on that.

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>> thanks for staying with us. we learn more about the suspect that was shot and killed at orly airport in paris after trying to steal ae soldier's rifle. the same suspect fired at police in a paris suburb earlier in the day where speeding away. nbc's allie is in london. what are we learning about the suspect? >> there are several things that happened. as you said, he was stopped first in northern paris at a police checkpoint. he shot a police officer in the face. fled the scene. went to the a cafe. started shooting there where he didn't injure anybody. dumped his car, traveled across the city to orly airport where the attacker assaulted a patrol of three air force soldiers. one of them a woman that he

grabbed. he managed to grab her. with a pistol that he held at her head. he used her as a shield. wrenched away her powerful military grade assault rifle. the other soldiers that were on the scene there fired eight rounds, three of which hit the assailant and killed him. this whole commotion of airport only lasted two minutes, and amazingly nobody else was injured. frerj authorities have identified the man as ziad, a 39-year-old french national of north african origin, born in paris. they believe that he was radicalized in prison, and they've launched a full terror investigation into this whole incident. richard. >>. >> thank you so much. nbc's ali aruzzi. that team, it may not even compete at this month's world championship in the united states. we'll explain. ts itself?

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a battle is brewing between the u.s. women's national hockey team as usa hockey. right now the raingds champions are boycotting this month no michigan. the dream is frustrated with negotiations for fair wages. they are fighting for a deal that covers them in between the winter games that happen every four years. joining me are two members of the women's team, sisters. thank you for being here. jocelyn, i'll start with you. what are the specifics here that you will like changed? is it just the wage?

>> no. that's only part of it. we're really looking for changing the landscape, equitable support and equal footing to the grassroots level for girls hockey. so the wage is only part of it. we're looking to change the senior team for the next generation coming up. >> you do not get much during olympic years when you are paid, monica. is it $1,000 a month? >> correct. it was one thousand dollars a month for six months. and after the olympics we went six months without getting any payments from the usoc or usa hockey. we get paid six months of the year and nothing for the second half of the year. >> is there any other income? i think that might be a shock to many viewers that our olympics

championships are making $12,000 a year. >> we get funding from the usoc, but we want funding from usa hockey. we're asking for a livable wage. we train day in and day out, year in and year out. it's a full-time commitment and we just feel like our support should reflect that. >> how does this compare to what the men's usa hockey team and their players receive, jocelyn? >> you know, they have nhl to play in. but when they go to a senior championship, we just feel like our treatment should be equitable. from transportation, everything

that goes into playing a tournament. >> they have year contracts. in addition to what is happening right now because of the league in your case, that's not true. is basically what you're saying? >> we're only contract six months out of a four-year period. and we're looking to be under contract every year so we're covered when it comes to insurance and liability and workers' compensation. >> what are the second and third jobs that you're aware of, monique and how many hours a day do you spend training throughout the on season and off season, if you will? >> we put in two to three hours in the gym. we're there five to six times a week and then at the rink for two hours. there's also recovery aspect of it as well. we put anywhere from 25 to 40 hours in a week as well.

that's a job where we're on our feet all day. we're coaching, not sitting at desk desks. we would like to be compensated and treated as such. >> usa has increased its level of is the during knows negotiations. the demands from the players have only increased. monique, have the demands only increased? >> no. their interpretation of our contract proposal came out in their statement and those were not numbers we proposed. we're not under contract right now and there hasn't been an increase in funding in the 14 months that we have been negotiating. we're just looking to make progress. this is why we've taken a stand and said that we will not play

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