good morning. i'm jacob soboroff at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it is 9:00 a.m. in the east, 6:00 a.m. out west, and day 59 of the trump administration. at the white house, another security scare, this one involving a car and a specific threat. details coming up in a live report. on capitol hill, anticipation builds. fbi director james comey will testify tomorrow on the president's wiretapping claims. will we get any real answers? >> i like him. he's become a friend of mine. and tough to be ridiculed

because he's a good guy. >> president trump opens up on fellow republicans, president obama and health care. hear what he says in his latest interview. and overseas. new details released this morning in an attempted attack that shut down a paris airport for hours. a report from the scene, ahead, right here on "msnbc live." we begin with the first 100 days. president trump wraps up a working weekend in florida ahead of a big week on capitol hill. it includes a crucial, critical vote on health care and a public hearing, which could lay to rest questions surrounding the trump campaign's alleged ties to russia and the president's wiretapping claims. here's president trump in an interview last night on putting aside differences with senator rand paul. you'll remember, one of his chief critics. and what's next on his agenda once congress passes the republicans' health care bill. >> i like him. he's become a friend of mine. and he's a good guy and he means

well, and i think ultimately, we're going to all come together. >> it's going to get done. >> we want something done, and also we want to start on the taxes. we're going to cut everybody's taxes, including business taxes, the middle-income taxes. everything's going to be cut -- >> income taxes. >> and i can't do that until we get this done. >> and new this morning, house minority leader nancy pelosi says president trump should apologize for his unsubstantiated claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower. her comments are part of an interview that are airing later this morning. take a look. >> it's not just about this allegation that president trump has made. it's about the prevolity of it all. so, to just take attention away from this, that and the other thing, he comes up with these schemes, which are beneath the dignity, not only beneath the dignity of the office of the president, beneath the responsibility of the president of the united states to respect the office he serves in. >> should president trump apologize to president obama?

>> yes, he should certainly should, and to the american people. >> let's bring in msnbc's kelly o'donnell. she's in west palm beach, florida, traveling with the esident. kelly, is the president going to be returning to the white house under a heightened sense of security there? >> reporter: well, i think there is always a high level of security where the president actually is always at the white house, too, even when he is not in residence. this morning he is already at his trump international golf club. we expect he'll be spending part of the morning there and then flying back to the white house and to washington later this afternoon. at least that's the plan. it is a working mix. we're told he's going to be taking meetings and phone calls, but doing it at his golf club. and also, we can tell you that this has been a string of these issues. a little more than a week ago, there was a fence-jumping incident, where that particular intruder who was later charged was on the grounds of the white house for somewhere between 15 and 20 minutes. that was certainly a high level of concern.

overnight what has happened is that there was an incident involving a vehicle. sources close to the investigation say a man in his car drove up to a checkpoint and claimed to have a bomb in that vehicle. sources say that he was detained at that checkpoint right near the white house. growing security concerns at the white house today after officials say the secret service detained a man in a suspicious vehicle at a security checkpoint late saturday, just hours after a separate incident. a suspect jumped over a police barrier in an apparent attempt to get to the white house fence. president trump was safe here in palm beach heading into a pivotal week for his presidency. mr. trump's supreme court nominee, neil gorsuch, a favorite among conservatives, faces his confirmation hearing, while the gop health care bill faces a vote this week under fire from many conservatives. vice president mike pence implored them to get behind the obamacare repeal saturday night

in palm beach. >> we need every republican in florida to support this bill and support the president's plan to peal and replace obamacare. >> reporter: psident trump sounded confident that the republican health care plan would succeed in an interview that aired saturday on fox news. >> the answer's, yes, we're going to get something done. >> reporter: that's harder to see at town halls, where frustration and anxiety are aimed at lawmakers. [ chanting "shame " ] >> reporter: and monday, another drama set to unfold as fbi director james comey testifies on capitol hill about russian interference in the 2016 election, two weeks after president trump's unsupported wiretapping accusation against president obama. although he appeared cordial during the transition, president trump suggested obama's supporters are behind leaks. mr. trump was asked if he thinks president obama wants him to succeed.

>> while he's nice personally, there doesn't seem to be a lot of nice things happening behind the scenes, and that's unfortunate. >> reporter: and that tension apparently still exists with the president and former president, who we're told have not spoken since the inaugural. today, vice president mike pence, who's still in florida, is attending church services. he heads back to washington separate from the president later today as well. and we expect that there is in the next few days an announcement coming for the department of justice, a top position there to be filled by george conway of new york, an attorney who has worked on behalf of big cases, including the tobacco litigation representing the nfl. he also happens to be married to kellyanne conway, who serves as counselor to the president. george conway has not been a part of any of the trump campaign or the administration until this new position, should that all come through and be confirmed for that. jacob? >> i thought that name sounded familiar. nbc's kelly o'donnell in west palm beach, appreciate it. thanks so much for that. joining me now, democratic

congressman john yarmuth of kentucky, ranking member of the house budget committee. good to see you, sir. let's start with that testimony from fbi director james comey on capitol hill tomorrow. what are your expectations for that? and is there any way, do you think, that questions about russia's interference in this election and president trump's, you know, continued talk of wiretapping claims will be laid to rest? >> well, i certainly hope that it would be laid to rest. i think it's a great opportunity to give some clarity to a situation that has become very, very muddled. i saw what leader pelosi said this morning. i would start with just an acknowledgement that what he claimed happened didn't happen, and the apology can come later. and i think that's what mr. comey can provide, at least letting us know what the fbi's doing and i know that there's a level of detail that he can't provide and won't provide. but again, i think he can provide the nation with a great

deal of clarity, which is lacking so far. >> lots of innuendo has been thrown around about the president's connections to the russians. does it benefit democrats politically if these questions linger in some sort of russia/trump connections out there as some sort of political boogieman? >> i'm not worried so much about political advantage. i can't see how it could help the republicans, but i think the real danger to republicans here is not necessarily whether there are connections, it's the willingness of republicans to ignore it and to not challenge the president to be more forthcoming about his connections about tax returns and those types of things. i've seen where some senators now, some members have broken away and said, yes, he should repeal his tax returns, and thereby, put some of these questions to rest. but again, so, i think there's some jeopardy for republicans who don't have the courage to say the nation deserves more

information than you're giving us, mr. president. >> let's talk about health care. president trump, as you know, is going to be visiting your district tomorrow for a rally in louisville, and he's expected to make the case for the gop's health care bill. the house, of course, is now planning to vote on the bill this thursday after an agreement over several maid provisions, including a potential work requirement, which we heard the vice president mention yesterday. is this something that your constituents, any of them, will benefit from? >> no. kentucky will be severely damaged by the republican proposal. and i'm actually thrilled that president trump's going to kentucky, because it will call more national attention not just to the success that the affordable care act has had in kentucky, but also the contrast between the existing law and what they're proposing, where 24 million people will lose their coverage over the next ten years. and actually, it's 21 million -- according to the cbo, 21 million by 2020, which means all of the

gains under the affordable care act will be reraced in three years. and what's more important is that this is all done to give $600 billion worth of tax cuts to the wealthiest americans and major corporations, and it's the largest transfer of wealth from the low-income to high-income americans in the history of the country. $1.5 trillion. >> let's talk, congressman, about those gains under obamacare that you just mentioned, because in your state, under the aca, uninsured numbers dropped i think from 28% to 7%, but the trump administration keeps hammering home the line that obamacare's collapsing. who's right? is there anything in this bill at all that you see as an improvement on obamacare? >> you know, i've looked hard to find that and there isn't. of course, it keeps some of the most popular provisions of the affordable care act/obamacare, in that people can stay on their parents' policy until 26, there's no discrimination for pre-existing conditions, no

lifetime caps on benefits, so those are all good things. but what this does, actually, is give a huge break to younger and healthier americans and really penalized older americans and less healthy americans. so, it's actually making things far worse for the people who need health care the most, and that's really criminal. clue us in and the people wahing on sunday, on the process. are democrats going to have an opportunity to offer up amendments on this bill? and if so, what specifically would you want to suggest? >> well, no, we're not. of course, that's up to the rules committee, but i don't think -- we had a process in budget committee this week where we offered a number of what are called motions to instruct, things that we would have liked to have seen the bill changes, because we can't actually amend the underlying bill in the budget committee. so i don't think anything that we want to do will be made in order. there was one amendment that will probably go to the floor, which actually changes the tax credits for older americans, makes it a little more

palatable. i supported that amendment in the committee. some of my fellow democrats didn't. but that really doesn't change the overall situation in that we're going to cut 20-plus million people off of their coverage, we're going to make it a lot harder for seniors to afford their coverage, and we don't do anything to improve either coverage or care in this bill, and that's -- the republicans keep talking about, well, it's not about coverage, it's about care. if you don't have coverage, you don't get care. and the two are linked very, very tightly, and there's nothing in this bill that improves the situation. >> quickly, congressman, on the president's so-called skinny budget. you put out a statement saying that the administration's proposal's going to hurt american families. the trump administration's saying that the increase in defense and homeland security spending are going to make americans actually more safe. so, what is it about this budget that puts americans in danger of, in your words, hurt? >> you know, this is an administration that talks about

creating jobs and stimulating the economy. everything that's cut in this bill -- not everything, but a lot of the things actually make it harder. the cutting in funds to education, cutting pela grants, cutting job-training programs, all the things that we can actually help lift people into better standards of living. forget about things like liheap, which provides heating assistance to low-income individuals, meals on wheels, all those things. this is really a job-killer. it seems remarkable to me that the administration that wants to help so many people and claimed to want to help so many people who had been ignored during the campaign, and this not only turns their back on them, it does damage to them, because this, remember, cuts $54 billion from the nondiscretionary, nondefense discretionary side of the budget, which are all the things that we actually use to help people lift themselves up in this country. >> all right, congressman john yarmuth from the great state of kentucky, good to see you as always. appreciate it. >> thanks, jacob. all right, new reports this morning of rocket engine tested

by north korea as the u.s. secretary of state's visit to asia wrapped up overnight. rex tillerson's final day in china was marked by a critical meeting with china's president xi. nbc's janis mackey frayer is in beijing with more. jani how did the meeting go? >> reporter: jacob, the secretary of state and chinese president xi jinping appeared to forget or at least ignore differences they may have. neither said anything public about trade, the south china sea, taiwan, or any of the issues that have stirred u.s./china confrontation. you'll remember mr. tillerson at his confirmation hearing had even threatened a naval blockade against china in the south china sea, but today it was all cooperation and friendship. here's what he had to say. >> we know that through further dialogue, we will achieve a greater understanding that will lead to a strengthening of the ties between china and the

united states and set the tone for our future relationship of cooperation. >> reporter: they also didn't mention anything about the latest provocation from north korea. its state news agency saying that kim jong-un himself had observed the testing of a new high-thrust missile engine, declaring the birth of a new industry for north korea and also suggesting it's coming ahead of an event of "historic significance." in the past, the regime has threatened that it's close to testing a missile capable of reaching the united states. it seemed fitting, because north korea has dominated mr. tillerson's visit to asia. he was in china only 24 hours, but the visit was praised, especially by chinese media. they were even noting that mr. tillerson had adopted some of the diplomatic language favored by chinese officials, talking a lot about win-win cooperation. so, the visit here appeared to go well. jab? >> janis, interesting. you id lack of a public statement from tillerson in

china, seems to be a theme of the trip, something we may have to get used to. >> reporter: exactly. >> janis mackey frayer in beijing. great to see you. thank you so much for that report. coming up, the republican plan for health care in this country is days away from a vote in the house. i'm going to ask a congressman on that committee that passed the bill what the discussion was like behind closed doors and about his biggest concerns. don't go anywhere. are your allergies holding you back or is it your allergy pills? break through your allergies. introducing flonase sensimist. more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist you may not even notice. using unique mistpro technology, new flonase sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms. most allergy pills only block one. and six is greater than one. break through your allergies. new flonase sensimist. ♪ wheyou wantve somto protect it.e, at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate plan including wills or a living trust

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well, you know, he's been very nice to me personally, but his people haven't been nice, and there's great animosity out there. there's great anger. leaking is just one example of it. while he's nice personally, there doesn't seem to be a lot of nice things happening behind the scenes, and that's unfortunate. >> president trump talking about president obama and whether he believes the former president wants to see him succeed.

joining me now, amie parnes, senior white house correspondent for "the hill." good to see you. >> good to be here. >> thanks for being here. that was the first time we've heard the president talk about president obama since basically leveling those wiretap allegations. what's your reaction from what you heard from the president there? >> he's sort of trying to -- he's keeping that narrative going. he hasn't walked it back. we saw that with german chancellor angela merkel on friday. you know, a lot of his surrogates have said they'd like to see him apologize. they think he's gone a bit too far here. but i don't think we're going to see that from him unless we see what's going to happen tomorrow with james comey on the hill, if that sort of worsens his case, then we might see him walk it back a little bit more. >> so, is this, though, a particular strategic shift in tone since we saw those tweets about the wiretap from trump tower? i mean, is this some faction of the president's administration getting to him and saying, cool it on this? >> i think you're hearing a little bit.

there's a drum beat behind the scenes of surrogates and people around him, outside associates that mostly have been telling me, you know, we'd like to see him say something, we'd like to see him -- you know, he's gone a litt bit too far. so, i think maybe you'll see him sort of walk it back a little bit the way he has with russia and putin. we saw him sort of walk that back a little bit and remain a little bit more neutral and repeat that he doesn't know this man very well. >> except for that he's a tough cookie, he said yesterday in the interview. nobody's ever called me a tough cookie. any chance, do you get the sense that he just wants to have this appear in his past at this point? did he realize sort of what a kerr flufl understatement he did since releasing those tweets? >> i think so, but every time he comments on it, he makes it worse. but that's the problem. he's trying to move forward with legislation and hasn't been able to do that. health care will have a big moment this week and it's going to be overshadowed, possibly, by shadow again and by wiretapping,

and that's a problem for him. so i'm curious to see if he does walk that back. >> do we have any sense of what we're going to hear from fbi director comey at the intelligence hearing meetings this week? >> i think you're going to get -- you're going to have lawmakers try to press him specifically on the wiretapping. you heard a couple of congressmen come forward on the intelligence committee. there was no daylight between them. they were basically saying that this really hadn't happened. i think if that's more -- if we're hearing more of that this week, you are going to hear more of that coming from comey. they're going to push him more on that and what he knows about that specifically. >> so, the odds by the end of the week of democrats standing up and saying we now have official proof of collusion between the trump campaign and russia is what? >> very high, i would say. >> you think so? >> they have been saying that all long, the the evidence is all there. >> and they will be substantiated this week. >> i think so, yes. >> i want to talk about your column about how the president

and clinton are still at it, despite the election being over, millions more votes going to hillary clinton. the president obviously has a bone to pick with that from time to time. >> right. >> what's going on? >> it's amazing, right? i mean,ere we are, it's 130-some-odd days since the election, the curtain closed, and it is very reminiscent of the election. you're hearing "lock her up" chants as recently as last week in nashville. >> at official presidential events. >> right, right. and you're hearing secretary clinton, actually, come forward on friday and troll him on twitter, and basically, you know, call him out for russia and for diplomacy. you know, she was quoting, kind of retweeting a colleague or an aide of hers. so, and then you're seeing president trump, you know, talk about clinton repeatedly at former press conferences. he brings her up from time to time. so, it's very reminiscent of the campaign and i think that's a bit funny. i think a lot of people are wanting to move on, on both sides. >> i would say that's a fair

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welcome back. i'm jacob soboroff at msnbc world headquarters in new york. new reaction from the trump administration days before the house takes up a crucial vote on the republicans' health care bill. here's hhs secretary tom price just moments ago when pressed on whether theeacare bill will allow the president to follow through on his promise to give everybody insurance. >> the plan in its entirety is the one that the president has

assured the american people, every single american will have access to affordable coverage that works for them, not for government. >> you're saying after the third part of this has passed and the president has signed it into law and time has gone on so that it's been implemented, every american will have insurance, there will be universal coverage? >> every american there have access to the kind of coverage that they want. >> great question there from jake tapper, access versus insurance. also reaction from senate intel member tom cotton, refusing to say whether president trump should apologize if fbi director james comey testifies that allegations of wiretapping are baseless. >> the house committee hearing tomorrow's going to be in part about the unsubstantiated allegations in the media and by some democrats of collusion between trump associates and russian intelligence, and we have two very high-ranking obama administration intelligence officers who have disputed that claim. first, jim clapper, the director of national intelligence under

barack obama, a couple weeks ago said that he had seen no evidence of such collusion. and then this past week, michael mora morrell, acting director of the cia and who endorsed hillary clinton, said there is no fire here at all, not a campfire, not a candle, not even a spark of any collusion. i think ultimately that matters more to most americans, given the nature of the allegations that have been made in the past several months about donald trump and his campaign and some of his associates. >> for more on this, joining me now, msnbc's intel and national security correspondent ken delainan. good to see you. what do you suspect will come out in tomorrow's hearing? will there be a spar ca campfi campfire, a fire, any of the options tom cotton put out there? >> probably all of the above. this has the potential to be one of the more dramatic moments of the obama presidency, but the question isn't whether comey or mike rogers will refute trump's unfounded wiretapping claims, because that's already clear. i mean, the heads of the house

and senate intelligence committees who have spoken to comey over the past week have already said there's no evidence for that. so, the real question's going to be how much will these men criticize the president as they are explaining that his claim is not true? you know, will they discuss, for example, that he didn't call them before he tweeted that his predecessor wiretapped him in trump tower? now, another really important question, though, for jim comey, is will he even acknowledge, for example, that part of the fbi investigation into the russia hacking and interference effort into the election includes examining whether trump associates participated, colluded? because you know the fbi is loath to confirm or deny investigations, let alone discuss them. but comey famously had a lot to say about hillary clinton's e-mail investigation during the campaign, so you can be sure he'll be pressed by democrats on that point. but i'm not thinking that we're going to learn a whole lot about what the fbi has found in terms of evidence thus far, because that's just not how these things tend to go, jacob. >> so, ken, if you don't think

that we're going to hear about even like a carter page or a mike flynn or roger stone and potential connections specifically to russia, what are the odds that we will know tomorrow whether the president is under investigation himself for possible collusion with russia? >> slim, i would say. i cannot imagine the fbi director going there. and we should say, we have no evidence that the president is a target of this investigation. and going to what senator cotton said in your clip before, i was at that event with former cia director mike morell, and i was struck that he did -- you know, he's a clinton backer, and he was sort of saying, look, i've seen a lot of smoke around this russia collusion stuff, but no fire, and that's the public evidence, of course. he doesn't have access to what james comey knows. >> right. >> but these investigations are supposed to transpire in secret. and you know, to protect the privacy of the people involved, to protect a whole number of equities. so, you can't expect james comey to reveal a lot tomorrow in this hearing. >> talk about this report that the doj submitted to congress about the wiretapping. do we know the contents of this

report and how this element specifically is going to play out at the hearing? >> don't know the contents, but we know it was pursuant to a request by the house and senate intelligence committees for any kind of documents that would exist if there was this kind of surveillance in trump tower -- a wiretap or other surveillance. and we know, sources have told nbc news, me and other colleagues that their read of the documents shows no evidence whatsoever. so, i'm sure that question will be asked. and some of these documents may be classified, but to the extent it can be discussed, that will play out in the hearing tomorrow, jacob. >> all right. nbc's ken dilainian in washington. great to see you. >> great to be with you, thanks. with four days before the health care bill heads to the house floor, the trump administration is doing everything it can to whip up support. vice president mike pence made his pitch yesterday in florida, and he reminded voters of what he called the broken promises of the affordable care act. >> they told us the cost of health insurance would go down.

not true. they told us if you liked your doctors, you could keep them. not true. they told us if you liked your health plan, you could keep it. not true. every day that obamacare survives is another day the american people and american businesses are struggling. obamacare has failed, and obamacare must go. [ applause ] >> so, let's bring in congressman brian higgins of new york, a member of the house budget committee and the committee on ways and means. congressman, good morning. how do you respond to that, that the idea that the affordable care act has, in the words of the vice president, failed? >> well, look, the republicans in the house have had plenty of time to offer constructive alternatives to make the affordable care act work better. we always said that the affordable care act was a start, not a finish. but as opposed to offering constructive alternatives, what they chose to do is repeal it in

its entirety 63 times. now, the plan that they have offered is nothing more than a financial assault on good, hard-working, middle america in favor of rapacious, greedy health insurance executives and their cronies. there's only one place to be in this entire debate. you're either with the people of america that work hard every y day, pay health insurance premiums, and at the end of the day, if they or their family need that health insurance, it is there, without doughnut holes, without co-pays, without surcharges, or you'rlining the pockets of private sector health inrance companies that are screwing the american people. their plan -- if you're 50 to 64 years old, you get clobbered. in fact, the congressional budget office, the republican-appointed head of the

congressional budget office said that if you're 64 years old in america and you make $26,000 a year, your health insurance premiums under the affordable care act today are $1,700 a year. under their plan, it will go up to $14,000 a year. $26,000 a year, 64 years old, and you've got a $12,000 health insurance premium under this plan that's supposed to make, according to the vice president, health care more affordable? who does he think he's kidding? >> right, congressman, though, if i could push back on you a little bit, those numbers have certainly been going around, and i don't think -- definitely on your side of the aisle, people are going to dispute those, but the reality is premiums have gone up very significantly this year for many people. how do you defend that to people who might now be struggling to pay? and how do you fix that legislatively or otherwise? and i just want to give a couple

examples. 22% overall, but 145% in phoenix, arizona, as we were just looking at on the screen, 71% in birmingham, alabama, and 67% in oklahoma city, oklahoma. >> let me just tell you, news flash for everybody, that health insurance premiums always go up. that is not in dispute. what we're trying to do is reduce the growth from one year to the next of health care. it's called bending the cost curve economists would refer to it as. if you look at the medicare program for example, since the passage of the affordable care act, premiums have gro by 1.4% since 2010. prior to that, micare was growing at 7.5%. so, the objective of bending the cost curve, generally, has succeeded. now, the examples that you cite,

if, in fact, they are accurate, we should be able to address them and should have been able to address them not seven years later, but after the enactment of the affordable care act. everybody was willing to enact legislation to fix those problems that exist. for 100 years, democrats and republicans have been trying to reform health care. president obama achieved it with congress, but we recognized, again, that that wasn't a finish, it was a start. and republicans had every opportunity to participate in an effort to help the very people that they now cite who have been getting screwed for seven years. >> i want to hear from you, quickly, on this congressman, because we've got to run, but if the bill doesn't pass, would you be willing to work on revising the affordable care act? would you leave it unchanged? what would you be willing to adjust? >> well, we should repeal the prohibition against the federal government being able to

negotiate volume discounts for prescription drugs, and we should replace it with a robust program to allow the va, medicaid and medicare combined to negotiate down the price of health care and prescription drugs. that's simple. and both parties should agree to that because that's good for the american people, it's good for the economy, and that's something that we could do very simply. if it goes down on thursday, i will advance that bill on friday. >> so it sounds like at least in one area you've got a little bit of agreement with president trump there. congressman, appreciate it very much. good to see you. thanks a lot. >> thanks for having me. all right, still ahead, an act of terror. that is what authorities are calling an incident in a paris airport that happened this weekend. what police know about the suspect and the tension it's created in that country. and also coming up next on "a.m. joy," a look atther the fbi is investigating the relationship between president trump and russia. stick around.

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the democrats, who if you gave them a democrat bill to approve, they wouldn't approve it. they wouldn't give you one vote. it's really a bad situation out there. so -- and it's been that way for years, not just now, it's been that way for years. but if i put together a perfect democrat bill on health care or anything else for them to sign, you wouldn't get one vote. it's a pretty bad dole. >> the president of the united states of america in a new

interview weighing in on the divisions of congress and the chances that democrats will su pour his health care bill slated for a full house vote later this week. let's bring in robert trayhham. marjorie, let's start with you. what's your reaction to what we heard from the president. do democrats need to work with him a little bit more? >> i think democrats need to work with him but the irony is somewhat sweet. back when we did the original affordable care act, actually in 1990, the heritage foundation published what became the framework for aca and it was a response to the original clinton proposal. so the basis and the bones of aca, this market-driven plan, pooling together the sick and the healthy, was actually a republican-based plan. that is most what republicans are struggling with is what can the alternative be knowing that while imperfect and market conditions changing, still was

the closest thing we could get to given the market forces. where there is unity is on the cost of health care. trump has put forward how do we deal with pharmaceuticals, for example, 10% of costs. the other being the cost that hospitals charge us in our insurance plans. there's always been a universal truth that both parties need to work together and one of trump's promises was i'm going to help deal with the divide in congress. i think he's realizing like health care, this stuff is really complicated. >> yeah, i think you may be on to something. rob robert, with those 63 or so votes for the repeal of the affordable care act, do republicans share some of the blame there? >> i'm not exactly sure. i want to hit the rewind button. i'll remind everyone when the affordable health care act was being debated in the health and the senate the democrats jammed that through.

the democrats did not reach across the aisle and ask for republicans' input in terms of having a bipartisan bill. that was a bill that passed on a party line vote. this is almost deja vu where the republicans are in the same dilemma where they're trying to figure this out amongst their own ranks. the reality is when you look at legislative history in this country, any legislation that passes in a bipartisan way has a much, much more snificant chance of surviving future congresses and future president. and because the affordable care act passed by a party line vote, here we are now. and potentially because republicans are rushing this through on thursday, the democrats are not lifting a finger. so this is a vicious cycle that quite frankly we have to get out of. this has to pass in a bipartisan way, especially when you're dealing with entitlements. that's the bottom line. >> i think at least 12 republican congressman, five senators, say they're not going to back the new health care

bill. marjorie, is it fair to say that the leadership botched this rollout? >> well, i think it has been challenging. when you don't have your own party aligned, that in itself, it doesn't create a unified message this is the right plan. obviously there's a lot that's been unpacked in terms of the numbers that would end up losing health care. the cost issue, we're still going to be paying for it, it's just a matter of where we're paying for it. and that alignment of a single party absolutely fundamental. this is what has been a challenge in the trump administration thus far. you said that the bill was rolled out in the middle of the night. most republicans, a lot of republicans are -- one of the complaints is they're surprised repeatedly when the executive orders and with trump taking to issues that frankly they're not prepared to respond to, health care being one of them. it takes a lot more than a matter of weeks to unpack an entire piece of health care legislation. >> house republicans voting against the affordable health care act. can we throw the graphic back up

on the screen about the senators. senator rand paul, susan collins, dean heller, mike lee, tom cotton, all raising obligations to the president's health care bill. what's your take on a potential botched rollout by the trump administration? >> i think what we saw on the screen was a cacophony of voices from rural states, southern states and also some conservatives that are saying, look, i have some issues to this when it comes to the single payer issue, when it comes to the cost, i have some issues with this because it's not market based. so i think to the premise of your question, republicans are in a bit of a conundrum, there's no doubt about it. there is a very conservative voice of the party that are sayinge can't simply afford th. this adds to the deficit. this not a conservative principle thing that we should roll out. there are other people out there that are saying, look, i come from a rural state, i.e. maine or alaska, where this is a really big deal for me from a provider standpoint. there are others that are saying this doesn't go far enough in

terms of cutting obamacare. they're saying it's obamacare-lite. so republicans have a really interesting problem here. before they can really reach across the aisle with democrats, they have to get their ducks in a row when it comes to their own party. i suspect that this is a hot potato that they're probably going to pass to the senate and the senate will refix this bill and it's going to look very, very differently from what the house republicans pass this thursday. >> that's interesting to hear you say that, robert. with all the discord that you describe, how much damage do you think the republicans have done politically? this is the first major legislation of the trump administration. it has been handled inartfully i think it's fair to say. can they recover in time for the 2018 midterms? we're seeing these town halls with people very heated. we just showed some of them today. >> that's an interesting question, jacob, because on the hard right you have a lot of people saying, wait a minute, you said you were going to repeal and replace obamacare but what you're repealing and replacing sounds like

obamacare-lite so a lot of conservatives will say you didn't go far enough. on the far left, they're going to say, wait a minute, you threw the baby out with the bath water here so come 2018, it's an interesting conundrum that republicans find themselves in. >> great to see you both. thanks so much. unfortunately, we're out of time for this hour of msnbc live. coming up next on "a.m. joy" the story behind the billionaire couple who helped donald trump win the white house. i'm jacob soboroff in new york. i will see you again at noon eastern here on msnbc. look for me on snapchat, twitter, instagram, facebook, all the good stuff. see ya later. the first eye drop approved for the signs and symptoms of dry eye. one drop in each eye, twice a day. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and an unusual taste sensation. do not touch the container tip to your eye or any surface. remove contacts before using xiidra and wait for at least 15 minutes before reinserting them. if you have dry eyes, ask youroctor about xiidra.

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