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>> all right, i'm steve kornacki here in new york. we have been watching the supreme court confirmation hearings for judge neil gorsuch. we're going to continue to keep an eye on that, but right now we are also going to go down to washington for our rejly scheduled mtp daily with katy tur in for chuck todd. starts right now. if it's tuesday, under the cloud of an fbi investigation. president trump wants a win. tonight closing the deal. warns weary republicans to get behind the obama carrey peel or lose their jobs. >> i think we're going to get a winner vote. >> we'll talk to one of the republicans who's not buying the president's sales pitch. plus the russia ripple effect. how the dark cloud of an fbi investigation could cast a shadow over everything on the president's agenda. and filibuster or bust. if you think congress is broken now, just wait till they tackle the supreme court. >> but there's no such thing as
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a publican judge or a democratic judge. we just have judges in this country. >> this is mtp daily, and it starts right now. good evening i'm katy tur in for chuck todd. more than ever, trump's white house needs a w on the board. and more than ever, that w seems to be in serious peril. the white house's credibility took another major hit with fbi director comey rejected the president's wiretapping claims. their opposition, got a shot in the arm after comey said he was investigating the trump campaign for possible criminal activity. democratic led fill buster is now a very real possibility. you're looking at live pictures of judge gorsuch's confirmation hearing right now. they're going on about hour
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nine. the white house's agenda is also in peril. they're plan to repeal and replace obama skair on the brink as the house readies for a vote on thursday. here is the biggest question right now for trump's white house. with less than 48 hours until that vote. can an embattled president who's on the fog of an fbi probe close the deal with an anxious republican party? and what if he can't? according to our nbc news count, 26 house republicans now say they cannot support the president's health care plan. and that is enough to kill the bill. that they will lose their jobs and republicans could lose the house if this plan fails. at his meeting on capitol hill, mr. trump called out the leader of the conservative opposition to the bill, house freedom caucus chairman mark meadows who told my colleague, kasie hunt he was prepared to go down with the
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ship. >> are you worried that you'll lose your seat like the president said if you vote no? >> you know, i serve at the pleasure of the people of western north carolina. and when you serve at their pleasure, it's only those 750,000 people that can send you home. and it's a temporary job. and i've known that from day one. >> a leading voice of opposition in the senate, tom cotton put out a statement reiterating his opposition saying in part, i still cannot support the house health care bill, nor would it pass in the senate. president trump told reporters on capitol hill today that thursday's vote will not fail. >> we had a great meeting and i think we're going to get a winner vote. we're going to have a real winner. it was a great meeting. terrific people. they want a tremendous health care plan. that's what we have. and they're going to be adjustments made, but i think we'll get the vote on thursday. >> i'm joined now by republican congressman dave bratt of virginia. he's also opposed to the white house-backed plan to repeal and
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replace obamacare. see congressman, are you willing to be the man that stops this bill from passing? >> i don't want to be that man, i want to be the man that gets us to yes. and for me, i taught economics for 20 years, paul ryan, the whole premise of health care fo is to get the costs curve to go down. they can't go out and buy an affordable insurance product right now. we've got to solve that problem for them and for the rest of the country. go back and look at your health insurance premiums ten years ago, and then compare them to right now. and you might need health care after you see that price hike over the past ten years, right?
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it's shocking, and we have to return some of the money back down to the american people. >> the speaker of the house, paul ryan, wants a vote on this on thursday. so are you an active negotiations with him right now, and if you're not getting any of the changes that you want, will you be a no on thursday? >> yeah, i'll be a no on thursday unless we make the price come down. we're all in agreement, the leadership has bucket two it's called. and then i think you've got a yes vote, prices will come down, the american people are happy. the stock market roars, we do tax reform and everybody's happy again. >> are you concerned about potentially getting the scorn of president donald trump? >> no. he's a friendly guy. and he gave meadows a hard time, he was laughing, everybody was laughing, meadows was laughing.
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he's putting the hard sell on him. and he's serious, he wants to move on and do tax reform. but we don't want him to fail. we want a successful presidency, and right now we're getting rid of the taxes. the revenues are going away, the costs are going up. it doesn't take a ph.d. that's a failure, right. right now obamacare is in the ditch, we're in the death spiral that the health care folks have talked about and we have to get out of the death spiral. that's to get the insurance regulations out of the way. let the free market takeover and then the folks with the serious preexisting conditions, they can't get insurance. that's a separatable problem and as milton freeman taught us in economics, public policy, aim for the target and hit it. we can provide good health care for those folks. the problem right now is obamacare focussed on coverage, so you have people with health care coverage, but they don't have health care because they can't pay the deductible. and so that's the problem we have to solve. >> so congressman, you said that
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the president made the hard sell today in the closed door meeting. apparently that wasn't a very good sell. >> no, he, he showed us -- he means business and he wants this done in a timely way. but we all know, right, we have to make this agenda move. and so, he lit a fire today. there's no doubt about that.
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so it's a problem right now. >> let's talk about white house credibili credibility. the president has a lot going on right now. especially with what happened yesterday on the hill. with fbi director comey. in lieu of that hearing, do you think the american public should trust president trump? >> yeah. i'm an economist, i'm not a lawyer. and it looks like the evidence on both sides is a little slim right now. so the accusations on all sides should slow down until you have the evidence. then once you put the chips on the table, once the evidence is there, there's no new story, right? >> fbi director comey was definitive when he said there was no wiretapping of trump tower. he said that did not happen. there's no evidence to support that. it didn't happen. >> yeah, by who, right? >> by who, by president obama. which is what donald trump said. >> and i think -- i agree with
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you on that. and i think they've walked that back. they don't think president obama's following the president around. >> i don't think they've walked it back. they haven't apologized for it. they haven't said no we don't think president obama wiretapped trump tower as president trump claimed in a tweet on a saturday morning. >> yeah, i think -- comey also said there's an investigation ongoing on the trump issue, and if there's an investigation going on, you believely there's surveillance. and there's talk about the hay stack out there, if the russians are talking to whoever, ty're not supposed to listen in or name american names. so there's been som intelligence leaks, and that's -- we shouldn't have this, right? we should be -- >> so are you more focussed on the leaks or focussed on the president saying something that just frankly was not true about the former president. >> all of the above. all of the above. >> and what about all the -- what about all the conspiracy theories that this white house has put out? just since they've been elected. there's the voter fraud, the press is covering up terror attacks. we have this wiretapping claim. what do you make of a white
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house that is so easily seduced by theories that are so hard to prove? >> right. well, it's hard on my side of the aisle, the press tend to be kind of like the faculty lounge where i taught for 20 years. i think 90% or so tend to be fairly democratic. so we always feel, hey, you guys are kind of coming after us -- >> that's an easy allegation to make. it's not an easy allegation to prove. >> no, i think it is. you could look at the donation tracks. i've done that right, i'm an economist, i don't make up facts. >> really? donation tracks. >> from the media overwhelmingly went to hillary and the hillary foundation. and just follow the trail. it's all right there. that's just an side though, but both sides need to clean up their act. wait until you get the evidence, then make the accusations, but it is hard on our side of the aisle, for example, i had some fake news launched a the my by huffington post, et cetera. i had 500 meeting over two years
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and the new narrative coming out is where is dave? right, they just make up these hit pieces. it's fake news. and it -- >> is it fake news because you don't like it or fake news because it's actually fake? >> because it's fake. i just -- i had 500 meetings with my constituents for two years and they say where's dave? meaning, he's disappeared. in two weeks since trump won the presidency. so, news needs to get back to news. >> i want is to to ask you a more important question. this is the last one unfortunaty. during the campaign, the g repeatedly said and the trump campaign said and kellyanne conway said and everybody in trump's other bit said how could you elect hillary clinton when she could be under an fbi investigation. she might be indicted if she were elected president, we can't have that. donald trump is under an fbi investigation. the fbi just confirmed it. and his campaign is. does that make you uncomfortable given the past statements? >> well, yeah, you don't want to see anybody under investigation, but i mean, that is the trip,
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right, hillary clinton had a $2 billion hillary foundation where they flew around the world and there was no press coverage -- >> the fbi was not investigating the clinton foundation. the fbi is investigating the donald trump campaign. >> i know. and that -- that's an interesting as well. right. you've got a $2 billion slush fund from international money flowing to the u.s. into a foundation and everyone's flying first class -- >> are you saying it's okay because pung two wrongs make a right? i mean, there's a false equivalence here, i think. >> no, right. what we got to have it 100% credibility across the board. so investigate a journalist want to give trump a hard time on these issues. you look back and you say, did they give the last president and the last secretary an equally hard time. >> i think you're arguing, you're making a false equivalence argument right now. the fact remains donald trump is the president of the united states and he is under investigation and his campaign is under investigation by the
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fbi. >> he wasn't vetted until at least eight years in by the press. he was given quite a honeymoon. trump didn't get three weeks, right? and it's kind of like the where's dave bratt piece. the press has been all over let's gi him a month or two and see what he can achieve. thank you for joining us tonight. we appreciate it. >> you bet, thanks katy. april analyst and a former advisor to senator rand paul and your political senior write we are politico. let's react to congressman bratt. elise, what do you make of that?
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>> since you are the resident republican on the panel officially because you worked for rand paul. >> and president bush. >> and president bush. do you believe that the press is overwhelmingly liberal and out to get republicans? >> i think that there have been so many years of consistent bias that it is overwhelmed, it ushered in this opportunity for right wing media to divide and conquer. >> or it was created by right wing media. >> implicit. i think the implicit bias created the conducive environment for these outlets to come in and to really exploit the right sense of alien nation.
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>> going into that conversation has been my understanding and belief. because they've all hitched their horses to this cart. but sounds to me like there are a significant problems still and convincing the house. >> what happens if they're not able to bring it to a vote on thursday? >> it did sound like something out of the twilight zone. hillary clinton, she might get indicted, therefore can't vote for her, and then say donald
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trump actually is under investigation, and he goes, eh, so what. no big deal. just, you know, business as usual. it's okay. . >> hitched their horse to it. >> freedom caucus hasn't hitched their horse to his. >> i think they're going to hold out. the concessions aren't going to be pallettablpalettable. i wonder if they're going -- >> huge constituencies to get rid -- this insurance deregulation thing would collapse the insurance industry. i mean, you would have to really -- there will be significant pushback from the insurance. >> if they do not hold a vote on thursday, will they be able to bring a bill to the floor at any point in the future? or is this just collapsing in on itself and does donald trump move on to tax reform? >> i think they'll still have an opportunity in the future but i wonder how many animosity is going to come up with the process and people just really honkering down and putting their stake in the ground and these are what we will not concedeof
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and i wonder how much of that mage is going to be done in the process. >> he had a meeting with republicans. he went there, they didn't come to him. that is a big deal. he made the hard sell, the hard pitch, what you just heard congressman bratt talk about, but the hard sell, the great negotiator, exactly, didn't find a way to convince those who were on the fence to say yes. they're still in negotiations. donald trump if he knows anything, he knows theater. how no to hold an audience's attention. he know thousands get people to look at him, pay tension. it seems like he's not finished negotiating with them. how sewer the relationships
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going to be. it didn't sound to me that congressman was ready to sort of, you know, take his marbles and go home. >> donald trump is not invested in the actual content of this bill. he wants -- he cares about the win. it doesn't matter, it's the atmosphere, it's thousand looks. he doesn't to want look like he couldn't get something done. >> when he was in kentucky doing a campaign event, promises made, promises kept. which is exactly what they want to be able to say that we made some promises and we kept them. at least on donald trump's end. stay with us, you're going to come back later in the hour. coming up though, from wiretaps to wearing a wire, why the investigation into trump's campaigns potential ties to russia could get even messier. stay tuned.
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welcome back. we've got a live look at a capitol hill as the second day
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of confirmation hearings for supreme court nominee neil gorsuch continues. gorsuch has faced tough questions from democrats on the judiciary committee. right now, democratic senator chris coons is grilling judge gorsuch about his hobby lobby ruling. later this hour, tom tillis about the hearing and whether his party is ready for a filibuster from the democrats. we'll be right back with more mtp daily in just a minute. (vo) this is not a video game. this is not a screensaver. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn't exist until now. and today can save your life. ♪ ♪
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comey dismissed claims that former president obama ordered a wiretap of trump tower. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee admitted that a quote gray cloud of suspicion is now hanging over the trump white house. we're going to bring in national security reporter ken delaney. we're talking about an investigation, what is that exactly mean. who is the fbi talking to? how many agents do they have on this? how long could it potentially take them? >> and the answer is look this is a counterintelligence. spy hunters, right? normally these investigations
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are looking for russian and chinese spies in the united states and americans who helped them. in this case, this investigation is looking at the scope of the russian campaign to interfere in the u.s. election and also, particular interest to us, whether anybody from trump world collude with or coordinated with that investigation. normally it these kinds of investigations often don't result in criminal charges beuse e fbi does not generally want to go in court and expose the sources and meths it used to get information in these kinds of things. in this case, there's a great interest, if anybody from trump world is implicated in colluding with russians. normally these investigations occur in the shadows. in terms of your question about the scope of it, maybe as many as 100 fbi agents are working on this and different field offices across the country, it's a
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complex matter and it could take a year or more to come to fruition, katy. >> we keep hearing fbi director comey talk about how he doesn't want to confirm investigations because going public with them makes it harder to do the investigation. >> for a number of reasons. he is not going to incriminate himself, assume that carter page could be cooperating with the fbi. there's a whole host of issues
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here. now there's a positive side to the fact that it's in the public from the fbi's perspective, the fact that it's public could lead to a greaterle level of tips and corporation that could fume the investigation. >> talk about why the trump campaign would be trying to distance itself from people like general flynn from carter page, paul manafort who they said had a quote limited role during the election. >> well katy, you know better than anybody that paul manafort did not have a limited role with the trump campaign. and i just found that extraordinary, and it signals again, there've been no evidence of, you know, implicating these people, they have denied wrong doing. and they want to distance themselves before, you know, this thing moves forward. and that just was a really telling development, katy. >> drip, drip, drip of news, new revelations coming out by the day. pay attention to ken delaney,
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usually he's the one revealing the things, thank you, sir. still ahead, neil gorsuch faces tough questions as his confirmation hearing continues. whether democrats can and should keep up their fight against president trump's supreme court nominee. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ everyone deserves attention, whether you've saved a lot or just a little. at pnc investments, we believe you're more than just a number. so we provide personal financial advice for every retirement investor.
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welcome back. you're looking at day two once again of judge gorsuch's supreme court confirmation hearing in
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front of a judiciary committee. looks like they're taking a break right now. they've been going since 9:00 a.m. this morning. despite democrats best attempts to pin down his views, he sidestepped questions that revealed his positions on past supreme court rulings. >> let me ask you about citizens united. >> i am sworn as a sitting judge to give the full weight and respect to due precedent. >> do you view roe as having super precedent? >> senator, super precedent -- >> in numbers. >> it has been reaffirmed many times. >> but if gorsuch is confirmed, he could potentially join the court in time to rule on the travel ban on muslim majority countries. senator leahy grilled him on the topic. >> and the republican congressman recently said the best thing the president can do for his muslim ban is to make sure he has gorsuch on the
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supreme court before the appeals. >> senator, a lot of people say a lot of silly things. >> he has no idea how i'd rule in that case. and senator, i'm not going to say anything here that would give anybody any idea how i'd rule in any case like that. >> joining me now from capitol hill is north carolina republican senator tom tillis. he's a member of the senate judiciary committee and will be questioning the judge a little bit later today. senator, thank you for joining us. i want to get your opinions on what you want to hear in just a moment, but first, let's talk about what could ultimately become a filibuster by democrats. if democrats choose not to support this nominee and not to support republicans with this nominee, do you believe that mitch mcconnell should go nuclear? >> yeah, i don't think we're anywhere near that point yet. i hope that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will follow the treatment that we gave sotomayor and kagan when
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they were up and did require a vote. in fact more than 60 members voted for their confirmation. i think judge gorsuch has done a great job today. he's done a really soldier out there working since early this morning. he's going to go on until 9:00 tonight. i don't know if we're going to that step. >> what if your colleagues don't vote and invoke mayor garland has they have been doing and say we don't believe that how you treated us is fair, and we don't believe that this is a nominee that we can get behind. what happens then? >> i think that's a slippery slope. because keep in mind that they voted the nuclear option for all of the other appointments. so that could be an easy rationalization for people who would want to jump to that option for confirming a supreme court justice. the fact of the matter is judge gorsuch had nothing to do with that decision. and he's here to prove that he has the capabilities and the
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qualities that we need in a supreme court justice put forth by this president. and that's really what the subject matter should be about. not the paths that he had nothing to do with. >> do you feel regret over the treatment of merrick gorland? >> you were pass the primaries on the republican side. and that is a principle that i embraced as a new member of the senate that i will consistently uphold regardless of whether the tables are turned. i think we were in a situation where it would have been hyperpoliticized, it would have become a circus here, and i think that that was a good reason to wait to hear the vote of the people. we hear the vote, but now we want to move forward. >> we weren't passed the primaries -- >> we were into the primary season. we had had three primaries on the republican side. >> you guys didn't have a nominee yet. >> well, the fact of the matter is, we were in the political season. and like joe biden said, like schumer said, and a number of
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other members on the other side of the aisle that philosophical. that was really lay the foundation for the decision that the leader made and one that i support. and one that i support as a member of theiciary committee. >> i was on a group of people that tried to come together to see if there was a way that you could reverse it or the year before last. it would have taken 67 votes to change the rules. he broke the rules to change the rules. we were trying to come up with a process where we could reinstate them and simply didn't have 67 votes or consensus to do it. i think it was a great disrespect to the institution and i fault senator reid for his failure of leadership on that. >> so do you believe that, does that mean you do not believe in the nuclear option in this case? >> i don't think -- i don't think we're at a point where we
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even have to talk about it. >> but if you're saying that you think it was a great -- >> by why jump to a hypothetical? >> hypotheticals materialize all the time and this is one that is a real possibility. and if you say it was a great disrespect to the senate, to do that when harry reid did it wouldn't you just agree. >> i don't think we're at the point where we have to talk about. right now that i think neil gorsuch is building a compelling case for confirmation or at least not fill bustering this nomination. this is probably not the last one that president trump is going to have. i think that's going to weigh on the minds on the members on the other side of the aisle and i feel optimistic we'll get the supreme court seat filled. and i'm very hopeful that we don't even have to get passed the hypotheticals that that will even materialize. >> just to confirm though, you do not and will not say
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definitively that it would be a great disrespect for mitch mcconnell to do it in that case. >> disrespect to the nominee. >> i want to ask you a little bit just one more question about the president and his credibility. yesterday i'm sure you at least watched a portion of or at least got filled in on what happened with fbi director comey saying that there definitively was no wiretap ordered by president obama on trump tower. do you believe that hurts the credibility. flofs wiretap. >> which if those are the facts and that's where we end up, then i accept those at face value. >> that's fwhoot i asked. does it hurt the credibility of the president? >> you know, i think that that's a question to ask the president and his advisors. hooim a u.s. senator from north carolina. i'm worried about doing the business on the capitol hill.
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i'm not going to get into the parlor games and the political discussions about a separate and co-equal branch. >> you're a member of the republican party and representing the american people and it's your president, basketball his credibility was hurt? >> i think that's something that after all the facts are in, after all the committee work is done, ask me that question then and i'll give you an answer. right now it's in the preliminary stages, but i appreciate get. i think we've got a lot of questions yet to be sans answered. >> it's not the preliminary stages on whether or not president obama ordered a wiretap of trump tower. that has been shot down by the fbi director and the head of the nsa. that's not in the preliminary stage. no answer. >> well, the point is you've heard from one person. i'm assuming that the committee is going to go through and exhaust all other sources. that's what i was referring to. i have great respect for director comey. where people here have waxed and
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wane, of a lot of confidence in here and i appreciate his perspective. if that's the only perspective that gets offered as we go through this process, then that's one thing, but i want to give the committees that i'm not apart of the opportunity to go through that process and quite honestly, i spent most of my time in the judiciary committee yesterday where we all spent about four or five hours in an opening statements and judge gorsuch's opening statements. soichbt had a lot of time to really study and to know where they go from here in terms of the committee work. >> well on wiretapping, it was fbi director comey, it was admiral mike roge, head of the nsa, devin nunes, chairman of the intelligence committee in the house, and it was adam schiff, the -- >> yeah, and compelling case. >> and also the dni, james clapper. but anyway, i am going to leave it there. >> they developed a compelling case and if they're the only sources, those facts speak for themselves. that's the question i have. are there other sources? where does this investigation go? >> thank you senator tom tillis. we appreciate it. and good luck with your
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questions to judge gorsuch in this hearing. i know it's been a long, long day for you, sir. >> he's been amazing. and thank you. >> i'm joined now by ron clan. you were one of the sherpas for then judge and now justice sotomayor. so in your opinion, how do you believe neil gorsuch is doing?
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>> persuading democrats with more complete answers. >> do you think democrats need to go all in on this and filibuster neil gorsuch if need be? isn't that a wise move for the democratic party? >> look, i think some democrats will filibuster judge gorsuch and understandably so given what happened to judge garland before this and given how far to the right his views are. this is not a mainstream nominee, it's a very, very conservative nominee. and then i think the question is really how will that vote go? i agree with senator tillis on one thing. we don't know yet how it will come out and that's why i think that judge gorsuch's real refusal to engage with the democratic senators, kind of give them more insights into how he thinks, more perspectives on his point of view, may come back to hurt him in the end. >> should democrats play chicken with mitch mcconnell forcing him to go nuclear?
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>> i think, you know, democrats can't control what mitch mcconnel will do. they only can control whathey will do and stand up for their principles here, they should stand up against this nominee, they should take their stand, and then we'll let the chips fall where they may. i mean, mitch mcconnell could go nuclear tomorrow, next year, wherever, that's something the democrats can't spend a lot of time worrying about. they can stand up for the principles and the issues they believe in. >> ron klain, appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you very much. ahead in the lid, we'll have more on the two big battles today on capitol hill. stay tuned. the average family's hectic home: its raised 1 dare devil, 2 dynamic diy duos, and an entrepreneur named sharon. its witnessed 31 crashes, 4 food fights, and the flood of '09. it's your paradise perfected with behr premium plus low odor paint. the best you can buy starting under $25. unbelievable quality. unbeatable prices.
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time now for "the lid." let's bring back our panel. and let's talk about scotus since they are in our nine of it now. chuck grassley just told the hearing that he wants to be in bed by 9:00 p.m. so he could get up tomorrow morning and take a run at 4:00 a.m.
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he hasn't passed over the gavel yet to thom tillis, but he will be doing that at some point. so how is he doing? >> we got a couple days left and i think the fireworks are still yet to come. >> what are the fireworks going to be? >> who knows. i don't know. maybe others know, but i don't know. we still have a day where we have to hear the combative questioning that will happen. i suspect that will happen tomorrow. >> we did hear some combative questioning when it came to a couple of the senators, right? about. >> specifically i think you thises thissues that they were trying to needle him into saying something that would be offensive and my sole responsibility is equality, everyone is equal under the law and i felt really satisfied the nuances of establishing that he is looking to be an arbiter of qualmity for all. so i think that his performance has been flawless. >> ultimately is this just a
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pressure game? is this just the democrats wearing him out you aboutbecaus says the wrong thing, that could sick h sink his nomination? >> the democrats see this an extension of trump itself. and gorsuch is demonstrating that his demeanor is much calmer than president trump's, his base of knowledge about the law far exceeds anything that we've heard out of the president. and in essence this is almost the anti-trump performance and democrats who are still upset that they didn't get president obama's nominee to even get this far, they are sort of making it as best they can with the situation and gorsuch is not letting them. >> democrats did try to nail him on a few things, specifically trying to find out if he would be able to act independently and gorsuch kept coming back and saying i'm a fair judge and also kept saying that no man is above the law even the president of the united states. he did also say that religious tests are illegal. given all that, will that be
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enough to get the eight senators they need in order to make sure that this is not something that gets fill ibustered? >> his answers are correct, but this is not about neil gorsuch and it's not even about president trump. it is about the fact 245 the republican senators refused unprecedencely to confirm or even give hearings to barack obama's nominee and the question is whether or not there are eight democrats who are still upset enough abouthat to stand on principle. and you know, i thi there is a good case to be made for doing so. >> but if they stand on principle, what happens next? >> if they don't, what happens next? >> is this nothing but just a political fight? is this committee just you politics, period? >> that is where we're already at. again, there was an unprecedented -- >> shouldn't we hope for a better time, shouldn't we hope people rise above that? >> i think that's the risk that
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democrats run if they wouldn't to play this game. and if they want to play politics like this. >> but the game has already begun. >> but it is a game that voters in this country overwhelmingly opted against by voting for trump. granted the electoral college. trump's whole message was i'm taking on the machine, taking on the corruption, on the system, all of this washington business as usual and this is just more business as usual. >> but those voters with your not disturbed by unprecedented obstruction of barack obama's nominee. i think this is a core base fight when you're talking about the supreme court. and the republican base was not disturbed by it because they had an ideological belief about -- >> are dwm are democrats going nominee to get through. that's what will influence the senators. >> it is not over yet. guys, thank you. appreciate it. after the break, is space the
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in case you missed it, a funny thing happened today as the president signed a funding bill for nasa. his former rivals, the president remarked on the difficulties of being an astronaut. take a listen. >> pretty tough job. i don't know, ted, would you like do it? i don't think i would. marco, do you want to do it?
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i'm not sure we want to do it. >> you can send congress to space. >> there were a handful of cruz e 's congressional colleagues standing right there, including the only sitting senator who has actually been to space, astronaut and senator bill nelson. >> anybody have anything to say? ted, you want to say something? >> women, this is terrific first time in seven years we've had a nasa authorization bill. thank you for signing it. >> marco? >> i just think i'm happy to see that florida will continue do more than texas is. thank you. >> mr. vice president? >> senator nelson peaps. >> senator? well, he's a democrat. i wasn't going to let him speak. >> senator bill nelson who has actually been to space, are so much for having the right stuff. that is all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily.""for the record wit
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starts right now. and tonight a warning from president trump. vote yes or else. president trump behind closed doors facing a quided gop telling him vote for the health care bill or lose your seat in .2018 election. does not warning scare republican launches into changing their minds? we have the latest vote count. it will give you a big hint where this bill might be going or not going. plus, the kremlin is watching the congressional hearings and today hits back. the russian government responding to the stunning testimony from fbi director james comey. we'll tell you what the criminal kremlin said and why the next public hearing on the russian attack could be even more explosive. and plus neil gorsuch answering questions from everything from abortion to president trump. will democrats filibuster? president trump warning

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