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we're going to win so much! >> good morning! so, america, are you tired of winning yet? winning, winning, winning. we can think of one person who isn't, donald trump. the famous deal maker had to pull his health care bill off the house floor. why? because too many moderate and conservative republicans re revolted against their republican president. paul ryan raced over to the white house a couple of hours before the scheduled house vote to confess he could not get the votes. trump found someone to blame while he tried to spin the narrative. >> what would be really good when the democrat when it explodes, which it will soon, if

they got together with us and got a real health care bill. i'd be totally open to it and i think that's going to happen. i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. now they own obamacare, 100% own it. >> the cbo told us last week obamacare is not imploding, it not in a death spiral. let's see how nancy pelosi feels about owning it. >> the unity of our house democratic members was a very important message to the country that we are very proud of the farkt -- affordable care act. today is a great day for our country. what happened on the floor is a victory for the american people. >> based on that smile it looks

and sounds like dems are just fine. and trump's epic fail wasn't even his first one this week. on monday fbi director james comey said the fbi is definitely investigating whether members of the trump camp interfered with the election. >> with respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, i have no information that supports those tweets and we have looked carefully inside the fbi. the department of justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the department of justice and all its components. the department has no was in that supports thos tweets. >> more on that later in the show. and to make matters worse, "the wall street journal" editorial

board, whose boss is rupert murdo murdoch. "two months into his presidency, gallup shows mr. trump approval rating at 39%. if he doesn't show more respect for the truth most americans may conclude he's a fake president." ouch. >> thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you so much. thank you. thank you. thank you. everybody please have a seat. thank you. >> sad.

exclamation point. joining me now former clinton campaign adviser jeff mcintosh, radio tack show host ron reagan,howard dean and oh, where to go to first, where, where, where, where? so much winning. i feel bad for you, as a republican strategist, you're probably having to take a lot of phone calls and what happened to all the winning. >> aside from being sick and tired of all this failing, i really am just stunned at the ineptitude of what happened the past 18 days. this should have been a layup bill. you get a bill together that all sides -- >> they had seven years to come up with this bill. >> we had seven years and we failed. it's the truth. >> why do you think there was no

bill after selven years -- >> voters then project what they believe that to be on to it. the second you contradict that, they might not support you. >> ron reagan, you have this narrative building up now among the breitbartians, among the bannon world that what happened here was that paul ryan failed. but on the or side of that you had a question that was asked by donald trump whether or not he was essentially betrayed by the right. let take a listen to that question and answer with trump. >> do you feel betrayed by the house freedom caucus at all? >> no, i'm not betrayed. they're friends of mine. i'm disappointed. i'm a little surprised to be honest with you. >> let's look at the headlines on breitbart.com this week that

were all anti-the bell. the breitbart world was saying that the failure was the paul ryan faction messed this up and you have another narrative that the house freedom caucus, the tea partiers basically torched it. who do you feel failed it? >> it's not so much political as conceptual. seven years they've been voting symbolically 50, 60 times to repeal obamacare, promising that they would replace it with something better. seven years have gone by and it turns out they don't have a health care plan because they're really not concerned about health care. there's an ideological difference here between the democrats and the republicans and between the very hard right republicans and the more moderate republicans. the hard right republicans don't want o provide health care to

americans. they don't see that as being any of government as business. so they're hostile to anything that actually provides health insurance and health care to americans. other more reasonable people see that as something that the government needs to do. so there is a fundamental philosophical divide here and i don't see donald trump certainly bridging it. >> and dr. howard dean conveniently enough for our purposes today, is that the case here where we have a situation where one side just doesn't believe they should be providing health care at all, the freedom caucus, so they blew up the breitbart said that said, no, we want the benefits, just not the obamacare. >> i think we're missing here, like the indivisible. there's nothing better for a politician than having really angry constituents understanding finally they're going to get screwed. the people who were going to get

screwed in the house republicans got their way were trump supporters. they were the people in places like west virginia and, arkansa and they were all offer the expanded medicaid and the parents were on the parents' insurance policy and they were going o get freed on this bill. the reason they were so kfrd because to have ryan get out of the speakers bill shortly was to get out of bleak and preserve the been fit that voted for donald trump. i think the grass roots in this country get an enormous amount of credit because they put pressure on the republican party not to do something really crazy. >> and i think that's a very valid point, this was citizen activism at its finest. the other thing paul ryan did, he downmake some thanksgiving about it look look obamacare to

please the freedom caucus, he made it crueller and crueller in order to take more away. those two things are in conflict. >> absolutely. i think we saw the citizen uprising happen on all sides of the aisle. this was not a grass top sort of astroturf situation where democrats went out and told people to go protest. these were organic town halls. the 62-year-old pig nafarmer saying doesn't do this to me and the 7-year-old saying doesn't do this to me parents. the last seven years they had a goal and it wasn't health care. it was only the repeal part. now that they're actually in a position to goff were, denying president obama a piece of your legacy is not a bill. that's not something for the the

american people. that's a political talking point and this week we a it fall apart. >> and people aren't willing to have that even if they hate brak obamacare. i have to play this sound bite whether this brought the president humility. >> i feel like -- we're still optimistic. it end of the day, you can't force somebody to do certainly. >> that doesn't sound like the way republicans usually talk been. >> not at all. but first how about a moment of silence for this republican congress who have prove i don't know they can't get anything done by way of accomplishment. if we were talking about a normal administration by any normal standard or metric.

it's three months into the mission, there's pleent plenty time to turn it and. what do we know about drot and he is administration. it anything but normal. i'd say it about 3 yoors old at a point. a budget that they say is drchlt oncht a., the meek flynn debacle, the wiretap lie and the this evening called trump russia that could explode at any moment. you're looking at an approval rating at 38%. where does the went come from? is this already an inconsequential presidency, not even three months into the mission. >> i'm going to do a round robin. you have to pick one of these tw things. evan siegfried, which is a bigger liability to this administration, credibility or

competency. >> competency. donald trump isn't credible with the middle or the left. >> credibility or competency? >> competency. they want to get things done on either side of the i'll and he won't be able to deliver it. >> competency. he has no credibility. that was never there to begin with. >> howard dean. >> i think ron's got it exactly right. kpen tennessee is what happens. >> i mean, competency without question. look ma -- we'll see how competently he handles what i think is going to be a devastating week. we've got the trump russia hearings that are going to blow up next week. >> my panel has uniformly labeled them incompetent.

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the president gave his all in this effort. he did everything he possibly could to help people see the opportunity that we had with this bill. he's really been fantastic. still, we got to do better and we will. >> are you confident in speaker ryan's leadership and his ability to get things done? >> yes, i am. i like speaker ryan. he worked very, very hard. a lot of different groups. there's a lot of factions. and there's been a long history of liking and disliking, even within the republican party before i got here. >>ow much longer will this bromance last? john harwood, i'm going to go to you first. we're already seeing the white house has woke up to breitbart

headlines saying discussion of about gop replacement intensifies in white house congress. any truth to that? >> i think there are people in the white house, name lly steve bannon, who before he was part of the establishment talked about taking down paul ryan. there's no plausible alternative to paul ryan. the failure of the bill was not about president trump's failure or paul ryan's failure, this was a republican party failure. this is a party that has for seven years talked about doing something it repeal, replace obamacare and they didn't actually have a credible, plausible idea. so it's not just about these two individual, it's about the entire party. >> paul ryan sort of made i guess in a way conceded that point, that it was a lot easier

when all the republicans had too do was just scream no to obama and anything he said. >> moving to an on session party to a governing party comes with growing pains and, well, we're feeling those growing pains today. ultimately this all kind of comes down to a choice. are all of us willing to give a little to get something done. are we willing to say yes to the good, even if it's not the perfect. >> is there a recognition inside the republican party -- this was a group failure. they had seven years to come up with something to replace this. this is a collective failure. >> many facets in the party are quietly saying we really did muck this up. but the real failure is between speaker ryan and president trump. president trump was being asked to whip for the bill.

he didn't. he's going out and calling it good, great, terrific, every sort of adjective he could think of and at the same time, he wasn't going over and trying to work with speaker ryan or bring in his plan he talked about on the campaign. princess diana didn't try to work with the president himself or ant didn't it was just a bad bill and poorly executed on both side. >> i guess the reason it went down that way was ryan was using donald trump to go out and sell this bill to his supporters. they didn't feel any need to let them know what was in the bill. but now they're saying trump has told four people close to him that he regrets going along with speaker paul d. ryan's plan. he's casting the blame on ryan

at least privately. >> joy, as you know, donald trump does not have a history of accepting blame, accepting responsibility for pretty much anything but i have to disagree with evan. i think if paul ryan were president, this bill would not have passed. the modern republican party is radically opposed to government itself. they're radically opposed to taxation. what is governing? governing is about taking action to solve people's problems. they want government to do less rather than more. what they're trying to do on health care is an act of negation, it's an act of taking things away that president obama did. now, if they somehow decide they want to solve the problems of obamacare and work with democrats to do that, they might be able to get something done, but that's not who they are right now as a party. >> self-self-an, isn't that

really the case that just negates things they would have done and that there isn't a fundamental desire that -- if you look at the' approval rating, it was only at 17%. that's eating into some raspberry who don't like it either. if you go back and look at what's the one thing that people wanted donald trump to do, number one was create jobs, destroy isis, cut taxes but the idea of repealing and replacing the affordable care act, this wasn't even what trump wanted done. >> a lot of republicans in the party still believe we can fight this battle of whether or not health care and access to is is a right. and we lost. it like saying the nous again, haf admitted the reality. like it or not, it here and we

need to improve it and make it more functional for the person people, not talk about whether or not we remove it. >> lots well, they're the best of frenemies, let's be honest. >> he sticks with ryan i think but i also think the prospects are better for tax reform. you're taking down people's taxes. he wants to do that for corporations, i think he can get it done. >> evan disagrees with you. you two fight that out on twitter. coming up, donald trump and intelligence don't mix. more after the break.

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it's been a chaotic, bombshell week on capitol hill. this is a president under fbi investigation, as confirmed by fbi director james comey on

monday. >> i have been authorized by the department of justice to confirm that the fbi, as part of counterintelligence mission is investigating the russian government ae's efforts to interfere in the 2016 election and that includes investigating the nature of any linking between individuals associated with the trump campaign and the russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and russia as efforts. >> and then on witness there was this from california representative adam schiff, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. >> all you have right now is a circumstantial case. >> actually, no, chuck. i can tell you that the case is more than that. i can't go into the particulars but there is more than circumstantial evidence now. >> you have seen direct evidence of collusion?

>> i don't want to go into specifics. i would say there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation. >> still, despite these bi billowing red flags, the neon signs maimplicating trump, we a still talking about something other than russia and that something else is the grenade that donald trump threw into the middle of the news cycle earlier this month when his twitter finger claimed president obama had wiretapped trump tower during the election. trump's attempt to feed this lie to the american public is about a month old now and is held by devin nunes himself. in a stunning press conference on wednesday, nunes stood in front of the white house to announce he had just informed

trump of surveillance affecting the president and his transition team. >> i recently confirmed on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information. >> after nunes briefed the press and the president before telling his own committee members, donald trump said he felt what vindicated in answer of the surreal question from a member of the media. do you feel someone vindicated, never mind, you can't be shower whether conversations among trump and his aitd were captured in the surveillance. now what happens? i'll ask my fanl panel when we come back. from the first moment you met it was love at first touch

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>> can you clarify whether trump's associates were monitored in these reports? >> we won't know until we receive all of the documentation. it ha it's hard to know where the information came from until get the report and go through them. >> devin noounes is walking bac his asorsertions that donald trp and his aids were caught on surveillance. nunes wants the director of fbi to testify before the committee. >> i think anyone watching has legitimate concerns about whether this congress can do a

credible investigation. i think one of the profound takeaways of the last couple days is we really do need an independent economics here. about. >> joining me, senior adviser to the democratic coalition against trump and creator of #trumpleaks; david corn. david, i'm going to go right to you. there were so many weird things that happened with -- >> you said devin nunes just told you after a hearing he's never heard of carter page or roger stone and you said he's in charge of the investigation? let'sless wrenn to th-- listen that between you and devin nunes. >> you've not heard of page or

stone? you've never read ne stories about any of these people in. >> heard lots of stories but there was more names than that. >> david, how is that possible? >> you know, every once in a while you end up as a reporter, you ask a question, you get an answer and you're flabbergasted. i was stunned. there was no logical explanation. either he's a dim wit who hasn't read a single story about the matter he's supposed to be vetting or he has some brian december and can't remember or he was lying to me. those are the on options i can think of. you're right, we could spend the next hour talking about all the weird things and bizarre things he did this week from cancelling hearings to coming forward with incomplete information to rushing to trump. it is the bracdown. i say this to be serious. it's the breakdown of the

congressional intelligence oversight process and the on reason we let the executive branch do secret work in terms of espionage, counterintelligence, counterterrorism is because they've overseen by the legislate of branch and devin noones just showed up this wook about the strange things happen, we call malcolm nantz. eem going to go to you for strange anymore number two. nunn ice was traveling with a ub are city three committee officials and a former national security official with ties told the daly beast. after the message, nunes left the car abruptly leaving his own staffers in the which are nunes

"he had actually basically proved donald trump's lie about being spied on as true. >> i'm sure that when the movie is made, brat pit going to play him, but i have no clue where he could possibly have gone. but do i have a suspicion. the on thing that i can account for here is someone was going through our classified internet. we have several different variations of classified internet, let say intel link, which is the biggest and oldest one and typed in donald trump's name and typed in paul plfrt's name and these report came up showing either and foreign agencies or he justice saw inand

or types are reports which traps that's all legal. with you then him coming the next morning and saying, ahah, this is the type of surveilla e surveillance, it shows the monday responsible for the complete jove sight of the u.s. intelligence process is clueless about what surveillance, is clueless about what incidental collection is. when you get incidental collection, that means someone is a target and we heard your voice. but for him to disappear, i wonder whether he went to the white house because they have the same systems in there. they have super net, they have nipper net. they have all those systems and can google donald trump's name and he obviously took the information and used it. >> sara, let's go on to straight

thing number three. this is def any gone ee can and you and unravel this for us. >>. >> i felt like i had a duty and obligation to tell him pause he he's been taking a lot of heat in the news meetia it and it there are sop this evening i this there even do you think i had a duty and obligation as president of of the united states? >> this is pathetic. he was supposed to be doing watch dog and haul he given,

where republicans acting as lackeys, as, judging by his press conference yesterday, i think not be in the position, be in the wogs of working on issues of national intelligence. since who can't seem to understand what he is responsibility i don't know whether we're looking at incompetence or something a little darker. you tweeted out on monday, we're reading all you guys a a

dairy -- do you know how somebody who has no background in intelligence became the head of house and hngs. >> with the winery, i think it an interesting connection because it shouldn't be that easy to tie people to sfrrnl the fact that sfwruchblt -- and they have choices, what countries they're going to do business in and they chose to do it with this group that is the biggest wine distributor in russia. my biggest problem with that is if there's a direct line betw n between, then you should not be a congressman, first of all, let alone the chairman of the intel

committee. it going to be trlg to see committee sfrp -- he's trying to control the story and all it going to do is back fire. >> very curious. thank you, stock cork and malcolm nance. coming up in our next hour, donald trump's campaign comrades will testify before congress and frank rich has some advise and a tiny, teeny violence to give to the democratic party. more "a.m. joy" after the break. (vo) what if this didn't

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government phone and she hit the slopes with a hundred secret service agents. i guess it pays to be the daughter of the king. stay with us.

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during an interview on friday, the president of planned parenthood told buzz feed that ivanka trump's silence on the health care bill was deafening and said it's time for ivanka to stand for women but she had no time to heed parenthood's call because she was busy on the slopes in aspen with several members of the trump family and apparently spent more than 12,000 of your tax dollars on rental ski equipment and other thanksgiving. -- things.

and while she slalomed down the slopes, she apparently got a raise. ivanka was skiing when the health care bill went down in flames and there's some reporting that donald trump may have been a little bit annoyed doing that skiing rather than help him pass the bill. >> i think it is interesting that jared and ivanka work for the president. if he was really annoyed, he could have told them i need you by my side. i think the timing of the ski vacation tells a broader story about how much the trump administration really cared about getting this done. jared kushner is donald trump's top adviser and he wasn't there on a week when they were pushing hard to get the signature, the first big piece of legislation passed and it failed. i think it's very telling that he had somewhere else to be that

day. ivanka also, i mean, she -- it's not really clear what her role is. she's going to have a full-time job in the west wing, a security clearance, a government-issued phone but she doesn't have a job title and she's not technically a federal employees. we're still figuring out where she fits into all of this. >> when you say very telling, do you think jared kushner opposed the bill? >> i don't think he opposed the bill but i just think, you know, he wasn't there to put the full force of this administration behind it. this is one of the most senior people in the white house. i think just the fact that he was skiing just tells the story itself. >> maybe it was very important for him to get some skiing time in. lisa bloom, ivanka trump, since she put herself forward on women's issues, is it more as annie said it was really jared's

job to be there pushing the bill or is there something to the criticism -- >> i think we have to let go of the idea that ivanka is a stealth feminist whispering in her far's ear because apparently she has not lifted a pretty little jewelled finger since he's been elected. he's become the silent stepford daughter who is very loyal to her father. unfortunately we always have to have at least one woman in the white house working full time not getting paid and that's now going to be ivanka. i don't see any evidence she's advocating for our rights. >> you're in the awkward position of knowing what it like to be the son of a man that is president of the united states. the role that she's in is not

traditional, it not paid but she is getting access to national security information. that is odd and do you thinks that odd? >> yes, the whole thing is odd. listening to the conversation, jared kushner comes up and ivanka comes up and kushner as one of donald trump's most trusted advisers, and i'm sure could you say that about ivanka, too. has it occurred to anybody that jared kushner and ivanka have no policy chops whatsoever. it says a lot about donald trump that these two people who doesn't know anything about anything are among his top advisers. now, there a whole bunch of ethical and conflict of interest questions that arise with ivanka trump being in the west wing with an office, with a government phone with security clearance and all of that and that bears watching. for instance, will she abide by

all the ethics rules that federal employees do. she yesterday said he could voluntarily abide by something, you can unabide by it, too. but the thing that fascinates me is why she's there in first place and for that matter why cared kushner is there. it seems to me she's something of a security plank et for donald trump and i suspect people around him are pan beingicing because they can't control him. 's a and they need somebody to get that under control and maybe ivanka is it. >> i get that sense, too, maybe she has the security clearance because he need that security blanket, even in national security meetings, someone to be there to, i don't know, provide what services, explaining things maybe. she also legally is not bound by

the emoluments job. >> they just got 38 new patents approved in china. it possible, too, that ivanka couple could help her husband's company mack a lot money. >> see absolutely canand let not forget she still owns her own company, the ivanka trump brand, he has a book coming out called "women who work o ou there which is ironic because now she has a position where she's not getting paid. but i think it absolutely right. she's there to soft so that she's ever opposed him, stood up for working women on lgbt

people. this i we're out of time but very quickly, any concern on the she said that women's issues are her issues. wi willlisa blue and annie carney, appreciate you guys. and up next, trump guys with russian ties. be comparing the roll-formed steel bed of the chevy silverado to the aluminum bed of this competitor's truck. awesome. let's see how the aluminum bed of this truck held up. wooooow!! -holy moly. that's a good size puncture. you hear 'aluminum' now you're gonna go 'ew'. let's check out the silverado steel bed. wow. you have a couple of dents. i'd expect more dents. make a strong decision. find your tag and get 15% below msrp on select 2017 silverado 1500 crew cabs in stock.

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>> donald trump's got 99 problems and his former campaign chairman may be one because we learn that he may have had a much closer relationship with russia than even the one we've been telling you about on this very show since last july. >> an a.p. report said as early as 2005 he began pitching a plan to a russian oligarch and vadmer putin ally. manafort said his work did not involve russia's political interests. >> here's why that may be a problem for donald trump.

in the circle of government with ties to russia, those under the most scrutiny are most likely to tell them a few of trump's favorite words, "let's make a deal." >> you tweeted out this week an interesting flashingback back f. >> manafort and some partners bought the apartments. manafort said he was just working within the system, but -- >> i will stipulate for purposes today that you could characterize this as influence peddling. >> was manafort already a trump crony back then or roger stone crony? >> he was in business with roger

stone in the 80s. they set up a firm along with nor gentleman. this was after they of corse worked with reagan and a bunch of other republican presidents. the fact of the matter is that he was in the business of what a lot of cam pan operatives do. they leave cam pans, they doesn't get paid a lot and then they go make a lot of money. democrats and republicans do it. guess what, most campaigns vet their staff before they hire him. all of this stuff was available in a vet. if donald trump -- and do i believe he doesn't know all of it, you vet them and you find out what they did because edon't want to end up in this mess. i was screaming at the television this week when sean spicer was saying how are we supposed to know ten years ago? every other campaign on this level vets people. i found this youtube clip in a matter of seconds. >> on the google. >> on the google. that's not using opposition researchers or anything like that. there's no excuse for this and they have to be held accountable for it because they've opened

themselves up to having someone, two people now, mike flynn and paul manafort. there are some people who hillary clinton didn't hire because they had gone on to do foreign lob i don't think abyin in foreign countries. >> mother jones reported that manafort tried to help a russian oligarch get a visa. >> that's the same person you mentioned deripaska. he had been band because u.s. official suspected he had made his money and was somehow tied to the russian mob.

it was a controversy that went on for years. they didn't have to vet paul mann for the knows he's been involved with deck tateors, works with roger stone. they wanted an influence peddler, they wanted somebody who has been doing this for 30 yoors. he could use his influence, they and they downhave to gak back and vet him and the real issue here despite what sean spicer said is that and maybe a vetting might not have found that but paul manafort has had russian ties for many years and ukraine ties to putin allies that's not new. so if anybody is going to be talking and having back channel conversations with anyone related to russia or putin, he's one of the guys in the campaign you got to start looking at.

>> we also found out this week that an a.p. exclusive report there's a u.s. now probe into manafort's ties to the bank of cypress, which has long been known for laundering oligarchs' money. it's been known that manafort has been in business with bad guys for a long time. but whether or not the trump campaign deliberately put someone in place who had a specific link to russia and russia's intelligence services with even the goal of or being the incident al. >> people always ask me this. they go, organization is this activity treason? no. ethink there as a better way to put this. this is a.

it wouldn't be for espionage or treason, it will be for corruption and coordination. is it possible that manafort was brought in, as you say, specifically because he had experience in running these campaigns where he did influence one degree of separation from russian intelligence, he knew how to manage overseas media, he knew how to manage deck tateors and trump was his new dictator client. absolutely. there's just no way, not to doubt that and he did get trump to be a little mores did plind and there was a ukrainian corruption wob that so the problem for mfrt is when u.s. intelligence turns on to him, his ability to ruse trump and use himself friend to hide whatever he's been doing is not going to work. these people have no clue what

they're against if we get an independent council be a a. >> they'll walk into a room and there as plastic all over the floor. >> that is really where i this the the risk comes in of the strags, pro tending though doesn't know paul mfrt and kian kicking him to the curb. >> suffice it to say paul manafort was a major part of the trump cam pan befopaign before in disgrace.

>> i'm not going to comment on that. >> then you've got this ensane report that just came out that the form are cia director james woolsey has told "the wall street journal" that mike flynn and turkish officials discussed essentially kidnapping an erdogan foe and dragging him out of the united states. do the potential jeopardies faced by any of these people in the trump orbit that are also in the russia orbit, does any. >> oh, yeah. i mean he's in a lot of trouble. and this whole sort of thing they're doing with sean sfieser, too, where i think he referred to paul manafort as a volunteer. paul mfrt ran the cam pan. that's one hell of a volunteer and now he's volunteering to come forward and testify. i think we're going to be in a

situation where all of as to goss, and so they are kind of in a race possibly to sell each other out the fastest if order to get some kind of immunity. i don't know exactly how that's going to play out but all of these people were closely tied to trump. the same sort of fraudulent al gagss were made about flynn, that this was not something close to the president. he spoke at the republican convention. so we nearly need to put -- he had his pick and he those them for these quantities, for their disregard of law and their ability to possible up dictators that you find somebody to talk

and you offer them a deal. if you're looking at that cast of characters, mike flynn, tom le bain, man a for thethemselves that way. trump has made a point of distancing himself the most saying i don't know who this guy is, eye never heard hem up. he brought him up in a "washington post" exclusively to your colleague chris hayes and anderson cooper and done these taeshl interview. and trump it's revealed in the "new york times" goes nuts when

carter paej is eer page is on . mfrt is i think too smart to doing in stupid in this realm. >> and, daefd corn, if somebody was being hon for i want to be effect la all mann for the is under vgs for cypress issues, ukrainian corruption and if the a.p. story is true and have i every reason to believe it's not, it seeps he did not register as a foreign agent and he should have. so of all the people out there we know of, he seems to have at this point in time according to the blackrecord, the most legal liabilities, which might make him the most vulnerable.

and he never acknowledged his goldi golden years in the danbury penitentiary. >> do you have a lot of people around donald trump that seem to be -- well, i'll let you speculate on what you think are the jeopardies here in one of these guys decide. >> i'm going to tell you right now i know who's going to break. "the wall street journal" put out the roar yesterday saying jim woolsey has dimed out or general flen as having been discussi discussing. >> that prn is going to be the person who breaks bass that is swircy to commit crimes against the u.s. code present. and if that pans prn he was

going to formalize those plans to where the united states government was going o do that, then he's going to get in big trouble. he's done receipt now. if i were him, i would start talking. >> in a system that is sort of membericing be parkand what kind of response would you anticipate from the trump white house if their guys, none of whom is subject to, at the privilege, what's going to happen when this start talking to him? >> i think they'll do what they always do, lie be obfuscate. they have an obvious connection

and have months and months of ent action between these parties and trump. you know what i do worry about is that often when i take tateor feels they're like, we do have more free as this pregs proceeds, particularly if it yrks, with aggressive red rick toward north carolina and china. and so, up know, doesn't rule utility what he might do. i this i we need to keep our tie, if be it's a problem even if who meant to do that as an

astraks. >> malcolm nance and sayery kenzie are next. i thank you both. next up, will democrats have the guts to do the right thing when it comes to neil gorsuch? stay with us.

after careful ddeliberation i have concluded i cannot support judge neil gorsuch's nomination to the sport. he will have to earn 60 votes for confirmation. my vote will be no and i urge my colleagues to do the same. >> some democrats are threatening to filibuster.

here are the senators up for reelection next year. >> so we know the process. but one question that's really nagging a lot of democrats who are still smarting from the way the republicans treated president obama's supreme court nominee, merrick garland, is should democrats have let the nomination get this far? or should they have considered it a stolen seat and not participated at all? i want to start by playing lindsey graham. he sort of went on a tear during the gorsuch hearing trying to explain why democrats would be wrong to hold merrick garland's whole sale rejection by neil

gorsuch. >> here's what joe biden thought in '92. if someone steps down, i'll recommend the president not name someone and not send a name up. if bush did send someone up, i would ask the senate seriously consider not having a hearing on that nom need, and it it. >> i have no doubt in my mind, if the shoe were on the other food, they would have delayed the confirmation process until the president was elected. >> is that true? a president doesn't get to nominate a supreme court justice in their final year before the election? >> what did swore wench con tks.

heat talking about an and this is turning out to be the reality of the house operating. and meek el waldron,s insyou've had six judges, including prng -- do you think it's legitimate to consider the seat that was vacated with antonin scalia died to essentially be a stolen seat since barack obama's nominee didn't even get meetings, he couldn't even get meetings with republicans? >> i think you're right that what was done to judge garland was unprecedented for the opinions you hate and for the

reb right no da -- puts pa. it's the child to kills his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the judge because he's an orphan. that doesn't mean that should be the reason for the stand it was it was so off the charts, i certainly doesn't think we would want to see paralysis in the courts based on that. the traditional role needing some consensus in the senate and not ramming through this and he

tws. >> there and maybe we shouldn't let him make a lifetime appointment to the court. >> we have two compelling argument for delaying the vote and opposing go such. >> we're not talking about an unrelated foob investigation. this goes directly to the legitimacy of this president, t they is something that the entire is i pose go thatmer be. s that what they have in geel

gors pitch frsh for four years. let's not another get republicans were threatening even more than just what they did to merrick garland. i wonder what you make of this deal that's being roared in politico that has. youed some democrats in and i -- the threat of the so-called nuclear options is certainly very really. a low frrnl there's no kag that there sflrks the question is how do you let that stand bus you're

now go and the composition of the senate is going to chaek. so immediate kbrn republican don't necessarily -- they're in a position strength receipt now. why do they need to make the deal? it theoretically possible. will it happen? it's going to be tough. >> and the other deal floated is that they would traez a future merrick garland nomination for some kind of a deal. does that even sound plausible? >> you might remember about a decade ago at the time when the republicans were threat yb that youer that nrjs they say we want to keep the filibuster and that

frng them play their hand in matter what it is nrn judge in a politano, the sources of one of the. brp sfrrn-- he's claiming that was thinking of putting him on the supreme court. i mean, i think that makes sense. obviously trump respects the guy and he seemed willing to stake he is own personal credibility and the presidency on that and why wouldn't he want to do that for tv sp. >> i mean, does he look look a prosecutor frrn and he add oos

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welcome back. a new trailer for hulu's upcoming series is gaining new traction in trump's america. it's about a future where women lose their rights and are forced to bear children for infertile couples. >> i was asleep before. that's how we let it happen. when they slaughtered congress, we didn't wake up. when they blamed terrorists ands is spend-- suspended the constitution, we didn't wake up then either. now i'm awake. >> ladies, i need to let you go.

>> we only wanted to make the world better. >> better? >> better never means better for everyone. >> hmm. let's hope life doesn't imitate art. and frank rich has no sympathy for the hillbilly. what?

after the election, the democratic party's self-diagnosis produced a number conclusions to explain what went on. and democratic leaders have been trying to answer the question of how to turn those republican voters back into democrats. but this week in a new york magazine article titled "no sympathy for the hill billy" frank rich asks them to hold on

to the sympathy. and asks -- >> your piece has caused a lot of stir, sir. it's revived an old debate among the democratic party. >> i'm saying that, first of all, the democratic party has to speak to working class voters, white, black, whom ever and do it better than they've been doing. i think both bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have had ideas in that direction, but to go and pander to essentially fewer than

78,000 vote that's determined this election where in my view as sort of not a great candidacy by hillary clinton, still won the popular vote by 3 million, i think it just a fool's errand and to claim that the criticism of identity politics on the democratic side by some democrats is ridiculous. >> it's interesting. let's put up the numbers there. in the three states that were surprise wins for donald trump, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin, pennsylvania, the imaginin was only 68,000 vote, wisconsin about 28,000 votes. yo your. >> there were 2008 counties who voted for blaum twice and then went for trump. three quarters of them lived in the red state -- a lot of them

were in states they're solidly blue anyway. our great producers of the show put this map together and it looked at the split. if you look on the right -- to my left, you see that election split by county. just for the viewers to know, there are not a lot of people there, humans there. but it's all red. and you go to the right and you look at where the things like obamacare are in these red states. so do congratulations have a case to make thobut if they're not going to be reached by the democratic party because they're dug in with breitbart and fox news and propaganda, you can't reach them. let's face it a lot of these voters voted for a president and a party who is going to take

away their health care, take away also addiction coverage, which had been added under the afor the. >> and there was actually a guy who that point was made of, this is a guy traveling jump all over the country, and now he is to. >> do you play this guitar anymore? >> nope. >> why not? >> i'm not on the trump trail anymore and i've lo. >> moss, who believes his son might still be a live if who d had -- >> so that's craig moss. are you saying kr kratz should have no sympathy for that man sp. >> absolutely have sympathy if he's open to hearing reason and what the actual facts are.

but there are a lot of voters that would have voted a public leader without and reading it. and or that m. >> you do have this new poll in the washington trump came up. is it be may the party really has to do something new. >> well, they do. they have to rebuild from the ground up. the most popular leaders of the democratic party, warren, sanders and bide i don't know are all social security age. the situation at the local and state level is terrible and they've got to build from

democratic principles, not by pandering to actually a smaller minority of voters that shows no signs of being pried loose and hasn't during the entire friday or era? do unthink he could slow down at it which is to not have a lot of the old line, establishment democratic thinking that went belly up last november. >> let me give you the counterargument to what you're saying. this was insam it's just like the majority of people across the nation did not vote for jt, this genre of hill bitty ignores

the fact that it'sing had, so the sole reason for this genre's existence is to provide the liberal elite with the means to sound superior without sounding look jason chaffetz. >> i think it's an over simplificati simplification. there are a lot of white working class people who voted for trump. the poorest people voted for clinton. i was talking about one section of the electorate. there are a group that are just as loyal to him and maybe they can be reached. >> and do you see any signs that the democratic national committee has funt will changed any of their thinking other than just trying to readopt this old

cent strategy of trying to conve convert. >> dave: how much time do we give them? it literally march. >> on that subject, did this debate over obamacare chang anything fundamentally? you did see a lot of red state votes are discover that the health care they had was obamacare andity sided they wanted to keep. i really hope that's the case. what if this sort of suicide by the republican administration and leadership in washington did cause some intractable voters to look and react? is this only go be% your government hands off my

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time to ask my guest who won the week, david, who won the week? >> i'm not going to be obama, nancy pulot nancy pelosi. i'm going to say jeff genes. >> who? >> there was a town hall meeting

on cnn -- sorry to mention a competitor -- with paul ryan. we see him on the screen right there. jeff genes, a conservative who worked for ronald reagan, telling paul ryan that obamacare saved his life. he had cancer. he'd be dead without obamacare. standing in for the millions of americans whose lives were saved or improved, they are the winners thanks to trump's and paul ryan's and republicans' incompetency. >> that's going to be hard to top. >> my choice is pelosi and he embarrassed me. >> i was going to say -- >> nancy pelosi gets a lot of flack from being san francisco and from republican and democrats. five republican members said if she were the republican speaker, the bill would have gone to the floor or maybe would have taken

a few months she would have gotten the bill through. nobody is better than whipping and organizing than nancy pelosi. i'm going to flip it because many people don't know, she grew up in baltimore, her father was the mayor in baltimore and a congressman. she's no longer san francisco nancy, she's baltimore nancy. >> traditional politics, and chris hayes was making this point last night, traditional politics actually did win. and people who were scoffing at keeping nancy pelosi as the leader of the democrats because she's on in years or whatever people want to say. she's fierce. she was the best speaker of the house i would argue in 60 years. she was so good. >> she raised $100 million for democrats. she has ads against up against the republicans. she keeps the caucus together. >> she popped her collar this week. when she popped that -- >> she is baltimore nancy. >> top that.

>> there is a coalition you have never heard of called protect or care. these men and women have been working literally since obamacare passed through this week and they won. they were making sure that average americans knew what the cost of repeal is going to be. they have been pulling all nighters for years. and i hope this weekend they are all getting some much deserved rest. >> i love the jeff genes was an unknown, product our care. i think grass roots activism at large definitely, you could say won the week. you did have people all over the country who stood up for themselves and scared the bejesus out of republicans. >> there were calls that republicans were admitting to getting on katy tur's show, republican congressman admitted 2000 calls against the bill and a handful, 20 or 30 for the bill. that's incredible. >> when we have wins like this that means we can carry it straight through. the resistance keeps racking up

wins. >> can democrats carry it through and win midturns using the same momentum? >> the interesting thing we saw in 2010 the tea party rise up against the bailout and they turned against obamacare. but they managed to put that energy into some activities, sometimes even primaries against republicans they thought were too moderate. the question is, the resistance we saw at the women's march, that we've seen rise up against the healthcare bill, can it be directed into electoral opportunities. that means the party has to take advantage of this infrastructure to do it. >> they need to listen to nancy pelosi because she could tell them how to do it. she and harry reid don't get enough credit. chuck schumer has big shoes to field. all right, now for -- we'll do something different. let's do a moment of zen. we agree grass roots anctivism

won the week. it's amazing that that was overturned. let's do a couple little things here. the students at howard university a getting a google on, they're going to get a satellite campus in silicon valley that's going to train students from that historically black college. i think that wins the week. that gets people jobs and i'm a parent, we love our kids to get jobs. that's the whole point. the other person that won the week. jason wins all the time. whether he is being aqua man. this is just for myself. he won the week. the new justice league trailer. >> the aqua man. it's on him. >> organic and biomechanic body parts. he's a cyborg. >> you should probably move. >> gary allen.

>> whoever you're looking for it's not me. you're the batman? >> and there it is, your moment of zen, dc comics will not be set aside. the interesting thing about this, does it feel like to anyone else we're living a graphic novel? >> trump is a dystopian soup up villain for sure. i'm more into superhero movies than i ever have for this reason. >> steven bannon in one perverse form of gotham city who is, you know, maybe like lesion, he's the parasite inside the brain, the real monster. >> the two people he has compared himself to are lenin and satan. those are the people -- >> which is much better than dick cheney, only went as far as

darth vader. he's upped the evilness. >> and david corn said that, not i. >> i have always said, people ask me is house of cards realistic. for so many years i said no. it's a documentary now. >> it's real now. that is our show for today. thanks for tuning in. a.m. joy will be back at 10:00 a.m. live from our nation's capital. stay with msnbc. approved for the signs and symptoms of dry eye. one drop in each eye, twice a day. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and an unusual taste sensation. do not touch the container tip to your eye or any surface. remove contacts before using xiidra and wait for at least 15 minutes before reinserting them. if you have dry eyes, ask your doctor about xiidra.

hello iat msnbc headquarter in new york. the new message from president trump a short time ago. don't worry about the failed gop health bill. in a moment what's behind that president trump tweet and this prediction. >> i honestly believe the democrats will come to us and say, look, let's get together and get