you know i love polls. i love polls. i'm in love with polls. i believe in polls. i love polls. bus i'm number one on every poll, so i love them. if i was number 2:two or number ten, the word poll wouldn't be in my vocabulary. >> given that logic the new gallgal gallop approval rating suspect something he wants to mention. 36%. in the last 50 years three presidents never did hit a rating as low as trump's current popularity. barack obama, bill clinton, gerald ford, they never hit as

low as 36%. of the presidents who did hit that low a number it took them more time, ranging from ronald reagan, who got there the fastest, 741 days in office. george w. bush who took the longest to get to 36%, over 1900 days. contrast that to our current president work took just 66 days to get there. michael beschloss joins us. this white house prides itself in being non-traditional. we heard steve bannon talking about dismantling the administrative state, whatever that means. more traditional white houses have a tool box to raise the ratings of the chief executives. do you think we'll see anyf that? there are white housetaers in washington who know how to do this. >> i d't think so because there are people who know how to do that, and unfortunately, the trump white house has not hired any of them and does not give

any hin that they aypothetthey o that. most presidents who come to office, even a strong liberal like lbj or a strong conservative like ron reagan. they get elected and they want to build on the vote that they got. they want to be president of all the people, expand the people who like them. donald trump came out of the gate. you heard the inaugural address the utterance that he has made that more people have heard than anything else that was called american carnage a very hard right address. these two months he has played very much to his base and the result has been that his support has diminished from the 47% on election night. in terms of getting out of this, bill bill clinton lost the midterm elections. the congress flipped from democratic to republican. he had the dexterity to move closer to certain on things like well wear reform and a balanced

budget. i don't see donald trump wanteding to do that or having the ability to do that. >> you could see last week in his remarks that he had just read into ow fashionalized howt republican party was. he then assured us quote both sides like trump. tonight he went on twitter to say the russian story was a hoch. and he said this on health care. the democrats will make a deal with me on health care as soon as obamacare folds. not long. do not worry. we in very good shape. michael, my quotes from his remarks last week -- this is what he said from the oval office about health care. it's not going to be pretty. it's getting much worse. this year should be much worse. when it explodes, which it will soon. and i made the point contemporaneously last week, presidents have used that desk, that office, mostly to exor the us. >> right. >> very few times have we heard a president talk about bad things about ourselves.

it's quite a transition. >> yeah. i heard you say that, and i was watching by myself, and i said you know you are absolutely right, brian. usually presidents use the oval office especially to inspire people and to exor the them to the best in the american tradition. to basically say, you know, our health care system in this country is going to collapse and explode, which also implies that a lot of people are going to get hurt and that's a good thing because then we can change it. it's like something we have rarely if ever heard from any american president especially behind that resolute desk. >> the other side of the polling that came out today, his disapproval number is way under water. it's 57%. if i were the p.d., the political director in the west wing, that would become my operating thesis right there. your worries these days about a fashionalized country --

factionalized country if he is going to continue just going after the trump base? >> that's a big part -- one reason to try to reach across the aisle is because i think it's politically smart. if he wants to get reelected he's not going to do it with 36% of the vote most probably. but the most important reason is that presidents understood from the beginning we are a union of a lot of very different people, which is very hard. abraham lincoln obviously found that the most difficult of all. all of them have found it was their sacred assignment to do the best they could to try not to increase addition in this country and try to increase unity. i think that's a message donald trump has yet to get. >> do you think most americans still want to see both parties agreeing on something in that city behind you? >> since we are talking about polls, brian, the polls certainly suggest that. and the longer that we have a signal issue like health care that is unresolved which does winds up hurting people's lives

in a very direct way until this is resolved, i think that people will feel all the more strongly, and they will penalize people who want to divide this country. >> michael beschloss one of the people who ably chronicles our times. thank you for coming on. thank you brian. coming up after our next break, dick complainy reminds us of the old republican party, the one before the era of trump. when "the 11th hour" continues. or no sugar at all, smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and signs reminding everyone to think balance before choosing their beverages. we know you care about reducing the sugar in your family's diet, and we're working to support your efforts. more beverage choices. smaller portions. less sugar. balanceus.org. experien exceptional offers on sales event is here. our most refined models ev.

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was a very serious effort made by mr. putin and his government and his organization to interfere in major ways with our basic fundamental democratic processes. in quarters that would be considered an act of war. i would not underestimate the weight that we as americans assign to the russian attempts to interfere with our internal political processes. >> our panel is back with us, jeremy bash, katy tur, philip bump. jeremy, you know, an obama former ambassador to russia has called it an act of war. centrist tv viewers who never liked anything that dick cheney ever said surely will look at that and say, yeah, that's how we used to refer to russia, before all this other russia talk threatened to become normalized. that was normal. >> yeah, brian. i think the vice president -- the rm forevice president has it

exactly right, which -- the former vice president has it exactly right, which it's not an issue of the president's legitimacy. ist he is the president. his legitimacy comes from his ability to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states and not have his presidency or his policies undermined by a foreign power. that's what is so gravely serious about this situation. and to have the investigations compromised, to have all these schenn an begans to get out from the core issue which is a national security threat to our country and to our constitution, that is what must change. and that is what i think the former vice president is calling out tonight. >> philip do you think this, all thing russia, especially this churning investigation that has several fronts -- do you think this becomes kinds of the for lack of a better term, the original sin this administration? >> i think it already is. i mean, donald trump himself is clearly aware that this russia

cloud is hanging over him. he wouldn't be tweeting about it if he weren't aware of that, and wouldn't have tweeted about it countless number of times before. i think for people who are critics of donald trump can the question is where this whole thing goes. there is a high percentage chance nothing happens with this, nhing is revealed that is untoward, donald trump is simply the beneficiary of vladimir putin's efforts to have hillary clinton not be the president of the united states. it's likely where this turns out. that said it's still the case that in the history books it will be mentioned that donald trump was elected by losing the popular vote by almost 3 million votes and they will mention vladimir putin's involvement in it. >> four to five people close to donald trump going down to hearin hearings, if they are guilty, it's treason? >> what is ironic about this is what republicans were saying

during the campaign season is you cannot vote for hillary clinton because she might be under an fbi investigation. what if she is indicted? her campaign can't be trusted. she cannot be trusted. you can't vote for her period, so donald trump is the lesser of two evils because he is not under investigation. his campaign is now under investigation and he has a number of high-ranking officials within his campaign that are now going to be talking to the senate intelligence committee. that is a big deal. and it is an ironry that is very hard to square. i've asked republicans about this, vocal republicans who said exactly those words on the campaign trial. and they do everything they can to try and minimize the fact that donald trump's campaign is under investigation for allegedly colluding with a foreign power, potentially clueding with a foreign power. >> it's worth noting it was under investigation whether they knew it or not at the tail ends

of the campaign. >> an on and active investigation as the fbi director said. jeremy, we all saw video on this side of the world of protests in russian over the weekend. with all that talk about normalizing, this notion of russia somehow being involved in our election, this government, our administration, this was normalizing because for a lot of americans you can kind of take yourself back and say oh, yeah, putin must not be popular to all russians. and then we heard from spicer today kind of take a pro forma stance of -- on behalf of the protesters. >> well, the russian government has cracked down -- state department put out says quote the united states strongly condemns the detention of 100s of protesters throughout russia on sunday. we are troubled to hear about the arrest of the opposition leader upon arrival at the demonstration as well as the police raids on the

anti-corruption heads. the united states will monitor the situation and we call on the government of russia to release the peaceful protesters. jeremy, you heard it there. not the strongest tone? >> russia was cracking down big time, they arrested 800 protesters, they have human rights records that has seen journalists andpposition leaders killed. there was a lawyer last week thrown out of a fourth floor window on they of testifying against some russian crony and putin cronies. this is a record that must be forcefully condemned. i think it's important to point out even if collusion evidence doesn't emerge there are policy provisions that vladimir putin wants to pursue. he is getting that from the united states under the current administration.

so he is getting his pound of flesh. >> jeremy, i have to ask as i do at regular intervals, about your friends and former colleagues, the people who are so proud of their government service, especially cia, pentagon, the people whose names we never hear about, continuing to work. what, if you could take their pulse, take a poll, what would they say? >> yeah, it's been a disappointing two months, brian, because they have seen them and their work assailed by the first customer, the commander in chief. in some areas they just keep their head down and ignore a lot of the political machinations on the hill and they do their work. and they are out this at this very hour in some us a steer corners of the globe risking their lives for all of us. so they kind of do their work and they deserve frankly the thanks of a grateful nation. but at some point, at some level it is disheartening, demoralizing because if the

president continuously assails them, if he accuse them of inappropriately surveilling him as he falsely did three saturdays ago. that takes a toll. when you take a toll on the intelligence community you are fundamentally reducing your own defenses and making our country more vulnerable. >> thanks as always to jeremy bash, to our friend katie tur. thank you both for tonight. >> about mr. bump, we have further questions for him, and here's why. coming up, just how much of his time as this president spent at trump properties thus far? the "washington post" reporter who crunched the numbers -- i'm looking at you -- is here with us when "the 11th hour" continues. it is a big decision for us... let's take the $1000 in cash back. great! yeah, i want to get one of those gaming chairs with the speakers. oh, you do? that's a surprise... the volkswagen 3 and easy event, where you can choose one of three easy ways to get a $1000 offer.

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fnchts. >> i don't think i would ever see many of the places that i have. i don't even think i would see anything. i want to stay in the white

house and work my ass off. >> he just reported this, nearly one at of every three days he has been president donald trump has visited a trump property. phillip, the obamas came under withering attack for all of his golf outings for their family vacations to his home state in hawaii and so on and so on. americans who love their country have consistently said we want our president to be rested, whatever that takes. what is the problem with the fact and figures you have unearthed about how much of his presidency he spent at his own properties. >> i would say probably three problems. the first is donald trump and the republican party broadly attacked barack obama and countless occasions. the second problem is that

usually when it is with him he is out there on the golf course. the staff usually says he is having meetings. you know, these are essentially, if he is playing with this it is a three-hour meeting. it's the question mark and it's the sort of thing that exists to answer. we don't know the extent to which he is paying to the trump properties. there is a lot of expense incured. >> this is during the north korean missile launch.

>> it also played in here to at least his social circle. >> it is sort of amazing we live in this age of social media. they are meeting with people. he spent the bulk of his time. he has been in the office. eight of them have been spent -- he has gone to trump plots. we have seen his photographs of what he is doing and stoing at events which of course benefits him and they can say he may show up here. there is all of this that is the sort of thing that were worried about when donald trump was running for president in the first place. >> we would like at any time you

can spent time with us. >> thank you very much. coming up, a piece of the white house that made for an odd photo opportunity with its current resident today.

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last thing before we go, what we think was a joke from the president as he signed several bills into law today, rolling back obama era regulations on land use and

more. here is the thing, as he walked to greet elected officials he made a comment about the piece of furniture where he was supposed to sit. >> this is a child's desk, but that's okay. it's the smallest desk i have ever seen. [ laughter ] >> it is a tiny desk. if the whole thing seemed vaguely familiar this may seem why. >> that's enough fun for tonight. can i have my desk back? >> yes, of course. i'll go sit at my desk. >> well, our recent stringf presidents have not been quite as large as the current president while it is striking between ego sieze the tiny desk

is normally used to highlight the crowd for the signing ceremony. like the group behind president obama as he signed the wall street reform bill in 2010 or president george w. bush as he signed the deficit reduction act or president reagan as he signed a landmark overhaul. we went back even further and found another outside chief executive, lyndon b. johnson signing at a comparatively small desk. about this desk though in this white house we are guessing to para phrase clamenza. that does it for us for this hour. good night from new york.

it was a match and oppositional force between equals. that was the simplistic construct of the cold war. despite that simplistic construct the super powers model the u.s. and siet unions were not equal counter parts. they were not equal in terms of their ability to project power. the united states was far stronger in terms of our economy versus there. it is even an acc