saying and what their message was during the debates. >> it is fascinating and this is going to be an off broadway play opening later and people have a chance to check it out. this is a great idea and a fascinating thing to watch. thank you all for coming in and doing this. appreciate it. that does it for this hour. mtp daily starts now. >> if it's tuesday, it's kremlin connections with dressing on the side. tonight, word salad. >> if the president puts russian salad dressing on his salad, somehow that's a russian connection. >> can they breakthrough the ever growing crowd of the kremlin. web of ties. connecting the dots between paul manford and players. will the president throw a lifeline as his agenda hangs in the balance. >> some of those in the no camp

expressed a willingness to work on getting to yes. >> this is mtp daily and it starts now. good evening. welcome to "mtp daily" the president's agenda ground to a halt so as the house probe into russia. neither is a good thing at this white house at this moment. they need a win and it needs a win badly. they need democrats to notch it. the russian cloud is gunning up the works and it is going to get worse. the house probe descended into chaos and the white house and gop are stuck playing defense and trying to put out fires. you can sense the frustration and capitol hill. the white house press secretary sean spicer sparred with april ryan as she brought up said russia cloud. >> if the president puts russian

salad dressing on his salad, everyone person briefed on this situation with respect to the situation with russia, republican and democrat, obama o pointee career have come to the same conclusion. at some point is you are going to have to take no for an answer. we will keep you in everything we are doing to make sure that what the president told the american people he was going to do to fulfill the pledges and promises to bring back jobs and grow the economy and keep our nation safe, that's what he has been focused on since day and we will keep focusing on that every day. >> there was a big falsehood in that statement from sean spicer. it is not true that everybody said you can't take no for an answer. the fbi is currently investigating that issue and whether or not there was collusion and they haven't finished their investigation. that investigation can drag on for months if not years.

you can argue that a lot of the drama plaguing the white house istotally self inflicted. president obama had trump tower wire tap. with the white house looking for anything, nunez found something that was arguably nothing and it is bogging down everything. today house speaker paul ryan faced more questions with his nab ability mostly from democrats. now a handful of republicans. here's ryan. >> should devin nunez recuse himself from the russia investigation and two, do you know the source of his information. >> no and no. >> he suggested he is not going anywhere, right now. >> you are not considered -- >> i would like to know what the purpose would be.

why that would be. because someone asks. that's not how it is. >> all of this comes amid president trump's latest tweet storm calling on the committee to investigate hillary, bill, and john podesta for work they did. president trump slammed the russia cloud as a hoax. there was more drama at the white house. sean spicer pushed back on a report that they attempted to block sally yates from testifying to congress about russia. spicer insisted that they dropped concern which by the way were flagged by the department of justice that yates's testimony might be barred due to executive privilege. spicer simply said i hope she testifies. i look forward to it. that testimony was supposed to happen today, but the committ committee's work is frozen in place. so were two committee hearings scheduled for this week.

i am joined by chris collins of new york. he was a top adviser to the trump transition and the first member of congress to endorse then candidate trump. good to see you. >> good to be with you, chuck. >> let me start with russia before i get to the congressional agenda. why should devin nunez who was a member of the transition team be trusted to help head this investigation on russia? >> well, i mean it comes back to -- i know devin nunez and i have known him to be impartial even though others say otherwise. in the case of my fellow members, i will generally say i will defer to their judgment. i am not in a position to call that out one way or the other. i wouldn't pretend to be in that position. not unlike the situation with attorney general session who is made his decision to recuse himself. i say where i sit, i will trust

devin nunez to do the right thing and not suggest to him that i have an opinion one way or the other. >> you are giving him leeway. let me play a sound byte and get you to respond. >> it was a department of justice's decision whether to prosecute or not. bill clinton was on with the attorney general a week ago. loretta lynch was intimidated on the airplane and knows she would be more secure in her job if hillary clinton was president. >> why shouldn't questions fit the devin nunez situation. >> first of all loretta lynch reported into the president in this case so devin nunez is a member of beginning elected independently. his job does not depend on the

relationship to the administration. there is a difference here. >> he also sort of called into question his potential impartiality maybe by accident, saying loretta lynch claimed it was not done intentionally, but it called into question wouldn't the investigation be more cred i ible if he shared everything or share this with adam schiff. >> i certainly understand the argument you are making, chuck, but i'm not going to weigh in on this. devin nunez does not report to me. i am going to as a fellow member, i will leave it up to him to do the right thing and i'm sure he will. >> okay. what is the right thing? >> that's for him to decide. >> let me move on to the agenda.

paula page said something earlier today. it was about health care. he said this on the idea of letting obamacare fail. you are telling people let it fail so the american people can get hurt more. does he have a point that the idea of leting it fail is actually -- it may be a good political idea if you believe it's going to fail, but it's harmful to the public if you think this is going to harm the public and that is not good public policy? >> i am not on the page of letting something fail to hurt the american public. and i don't believe my conference is either. unfortunately today obamacare is failing under its own weight. i'm not going to pile on in any way to suggest anything should be done to expedite the failures that we are seeing with insurance saying economically.

i have so much uncertainty that i will pull out of the exchanges which is what we have seen in a third of the counties. my message to america on the health subcommittee is i do not for a second believe my fellow members of republican conference want to expedite the pain on america to prove a point. that would never happen. it will be and it is failing under its own weight. that's an unfortunate reality. >> there are different people who have different positions. let me ask you this. is it time to get rid of the repeal and replace rhetoric and get into repair or are you not there yet? >> i'm not there yet, but i can tell you when we look at what we are doing when we called repeal and replace, there was a lot of repair in that.

we were keeping things like the kids under 26 on their family policy. we were making sure we would never have lifetime limits ever again. we made sure that folks with debilitating conditions would have continuous coverage as they change insurance programs. we were keeping the medicaid exchanges or enhancement, if you will. we had simply changing the reimbursement rate back to what it is for the same thing we have for the blind. >> you believe the bill was more of a repair than a replace in the first place, don't you? >> i think to some extent you use the words replace and repair interchangeably. that's what had the folks in our freedom caucus as upset as they were. they did not want to see some of the repairs we had in there. in some cases it is semantics. that can be important, don't get

me wrong. these are the discussions we have to have with our republican conference today. as we move forward in discussions, we need to have with the white house as well. currently today, we are in a very bad situation. almost lose-lose on the exchanges. all the insurance companies are pulling out. what do you say to people who are getting the insurance off the exchanges today. a 30 of them have no competition if they have coverage. right now i know for 2018, there is a lot of insurance companies trying to scratch their head trying to decide if they will offer a plan or not. that is 10 million americans. >> i want to button one more thing. i am replaying the answer in my head about devin nunez. do you think the investigation would be more credible if he cleared this up? >> i do believe devin nunez does need to clear things up. i will agree with that and would

certainly expect him to do the right thing. the controversy right now is not good. i certainly acknowledge that, but i will leave it up to devin nunez to do the right thing. i believe he will and we need clarity here. >> congressman chris collins, always appreciate your frankness. you don't duck many questions and i appreciate that. let's bring in tonight's panel from the new york times and contributor, with bush 43's political director. "the washington post" columnist and editor. sarah fagan, devin nunez needs to do the right thing. he wouldn't outline what that was. >> he doesn't want to get ahead of the chairman. they will have to determine what the best course of action is for the investigation and his role in it. it could mean a lot of things. it could be opening up whatever information he may have gotten to the members of the committee

or choose to step aside. i don't know that he needs to step aside. because he saw information, he needs to make it available. i don't know that i would step aside if i were him. >> he was caught saying no, he had no interest in sharing the sourcing. he is sticking to his guns here. >> he is sticking to his guns and it makes it hard for a lot of people who are watching to think anything that is chaired by him will clear the cloud that is over the trump presidency. even republicans are thinking is this our best interest to have this go on like this? >> the other thing we have to remember is devin nunez is trying to do the white house a favor. the white house is causing this problem by being determined to improve a trump tweet. >> once again. >> devin nunez is caught this this vicious cycle and yes, he made judgment calls, but it's because they are trying to prove trump right.

>> trying to prove right what is not from all actual appearances true. that can get you into trouble. what is striking about all of this, i can understand it's not necessarily if there is smoke, there is fire. now you have a bunch of people trying to hide the fire extinguishers. >> we will get lost on metaphor row. >> if he has seen something valuable, share it with other people on the committees. the committee can chave it. sure. >> why doesn't the white house say we want to clear this up too? >> because. why won't they let -- >> we are talking about this as opposed to health care. >> for russia over health care? >> if you think about the things that happened, you think about the issues that this white house had, it's hard to think they

would want this to be in the news. health care was an epic fail and goes to policy and what they are going to accomplish. maybe they do prefer this conversation. >> in fairness, we are talking about process. what an individual saw and where he saw it. who he saw it with. we are not talking about specifics about what's happening with respect to the russians. we are talking about process. >> is this turning into one of the squirrel moments? >> it seems to me to be double trouble. triple trouble actually. we are talking about the health care failure or the issues with tax reform or we are talking about the substance of this big gray cloud or the continuing efforts to try to work the spin in this very clumsy way to keep

getting exposed to try to support these unsupportable tweets. >> it seemed like sean spicer went too far and that's the hea heart of the investigation. >> when the facts are out, there will be nothing of substance to report. we will let the committee do their investigation. every time he asked questions. it will prove nothing and it's there. we want the committee to that. >> this idea that you have people jockeying for the president's ear and jockeying for the president's favor and he wants to come out and look like he is the person who is backing up the president the most. the yet that as long as he puts

russian salad dressing on his sal salad, there is no collusion and he is starting to adopt the tone in the trump presidency and the candidate himself can use and obviously become president with. that does not work for most of the other people who try to use it. >> i think at the end of the day, this is a big story in the beltway. i'm not saying it's not going to have an impact, but right now, i think where the country is, they are focused on why health care has impact. >> some people think it should be an outside investigation. nobody trusts congress to do this. >> you have to remember where voters start. they think all of politics is corrupt. everybody is corrupt. >> they don't trust anybody. >> they say this is more of the same. i think people are more focused on health care. >> the irony is that i think all

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to give health care another try and would not offer a timeline. house majority leader tom delay and author of revival! revolution! rebirth. >> your name came up a couple of times in conversations i had with veteran republican members of congress over the weekend who acknowledged that they wouldn't have had a vote-counting problem for a must pass bill had you been the one rounding up the votes. it wasn't just about earmarks. it was about the idea of a committee chairman not allowed to vote no. is there not enough sticks with the way leadership conducts votes these days and too many carrots? >> first of all, you misportrayed me as the hammer. i didn't have to break legs or

arms or even use earmarks. i invented a new way of whipping the vote that nobody seems to want to use. basically you get it with your members and you work with your members before the bill is even written. once it's written and introduced, you know which members have problems and you work with the members throughout the regular order process. so that they have ownership when it gets to the floor. >> your critique on this is the entire process from the beginning. this was done -- was it too rushed or how would you have set about trying to do this? >> let me put it in perspective. before obamacare, everybody got health care. the democrats wanted to control health care through health insurance and bring the federal government into this

unconstitutionally. they did it. right after that, the american people, certainly republicans and tea partiers were screened about repealing obamacare. they didn't ask for replacement. the politicians did replacement in answer to the democrats that said if you repeal, what are you going to replace it with? they came up with a replacement. that was the beginning of the end. >> you don't accept the premises. you think it was accepting the premises of a replacement? >> exactly. what it infers is you are going to replace obamacare with obamacare light. that's what they did in this bill. the american people gave them in four different elections, kept giving the house and the senate and now a president to repeal obamacare, not replace it. now, you need to do something

and use the federal government to allow business across state lines. you don't need to replace one bad system with another bad system. that's what they did with this bill. this bill was not repealed. it left half of obamacare foundation and architecture. it had welfare in it and bailouts of insurance. it had the federal government mandating what kind of insurance you can buy. everything that would be the same failure that obamacare is now. it's going to fail again if they don't change the way they do things. this is a great opportunity. >> would you or do you nl thbel that the republican party has a wider set of polls between charlie dent or mark meadows and

representing the two wings of the republican party? do you feel they are further apart today than when you were running things? >> no. we had mike castle from delaware. you can't get more left than he was. a republican from delaware. john from indiana, we did medicare reform with a margin. no. it's no different now than then. you have to see the big picture and write a strategy that works with the members and the votes you have. what they should have done if they wanted to go this route, they should have talked to their members and start on the right and writing a bill that gets you to 218 votes and go to the floor. that's all you have to do and not write a bill based in the house based on the senate rules. the 60 vote thing is an excuse that the senate uses all the

time because they don't top the do something. when they want to do something, they don't have to have their 60 votes. >> it's funny. you are a reminder that in the house, it's the senate that is the opposition. the democrats -- let me ask you one final question about the senate issue. how do you ask a house member to vote for a bill you know could get rat cally changed by the senate and not be the same bill? does it make it that much harder? should the senate have been forced to come up with the bill simultaneously? >> in different ways to do that, but first of all you write a bill that is a good solid republican bill. don't worry about the senate. send that bill over and the senate is the senate. they will do what they want to. they didn't do regular order. they didn't allow amendments and all of that.

they wrote something with the senate rules. let the senate write a bill and you write the real bill. that's the way it should work. i won't give you the hammer trilths and it's a great title. >> it's fun, but "the washington post" gave me that in trying to discourage me. i never lost a vote. >> the timing might get extended. there you go. tom delay, always a pressure. thank you for sharing your views. untangling the web. we will take a look at campaign member's paul manafort's russian connections. stay with us much e: its raised 1 dare devil, 2 dynamic diy duos,

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welcome back to m tr"mtp da the russian cloud over white house seems to be darkening. several associates agreed tow volunteered including paul manafort who volunteered to speak to the senate intelligence committee. it's not clear whether it will be public in either case. he denies involvement with the attempts to interfere in the 2016 election and said he never spoke with russian government officials or anyone who claimed to be involved with the hack attack. after the director testified last week, he said in part,

despite the constant scrutiny, there are no facts or evidence supporting the evidence, nor will there be. >> yoebd what that means. you pull out a gentlemen who was employed for five months and talked about it 10 years ago. there was discussion of playing a limited for a limited amount of time. >> he was replaced long before the election. you know that, right? he was only there for a short period of time. >> we know paul manafort. he was president trump's campaign chairman. he joined in march 2016 and became chairman in may and ran the campaign from may until he resigned in august. back in 2008, manafort worked for a russian billionaire.

he is known to u.s. officials as a member of putin's inner circle. the associated press reported that manafort secretly worked for him to advance the interest of vladimir putin. that contradicts what has been said by manafort and the trump administration. he has dee ties to another putin ally. prime minister beginning in late 2004. when he lost a presidential bid, he turned to manafort to help rehabilitate his image. manafort continued working for him until 2012. then there is ukrainian olegark firtash and he worked with him on the drake hotel before the deal fell through. he got his start in business with the permission of one of russia's most well-known organized crime bosses.

these two olegarks are both allies. >> it is a web, but it is just that. it is not necessarily indicative of something more nepharious, but it is being investigated. he responded to the story saying his work did not involve representing russian interest and in a statement said this. i have always publicly acknowledged i worked for him and his company to advance its interest. i did not work for the russian government. they are being used to paint a false picture. >> deputy assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration and a senior fellow at the atlanta council and analyst.

this idea, and his job was to find them representing him. >> he made his money pretty young. he collapsed when he was a young man. he came of age as a business man making money and doing deals. you are doing business with a guy like that? at least not going counter to russia's interest. >> is it possible that paul manafort believes yes, he was there to serve the interests of the russian government when it came to other countries and he believes he was not doing it here in the united states? >> it's possible. it's possible. the ap has a report where they say they have documents that

state unequivocally, i guess. paul manafort said he would work to influence the united states in order to help his client. if he was doing that, he would have to file as a foreign agent. >> let's talk about him. >> she a ukrainian olegarch, not russian. they mix and meld because they are operating in ukraine and russia. firtash did business with manafort and also supported the other former president of ukraine who was basically the guy deposed, federal. i need to amend that. he was faced by a mob and gunned down over about 130 of his citizens and then when we brokered that, and now we have a

new elected president of ukraine. he made a lot of money as you mentioned. he got his start with the help of organized crime. this is the underlying point. people might say who are the people and what are the names? if you are dealing with russian business people you have to understand that the business community in russia is intertwined with the government a &. >> or with the mob. >> is there. >> i would argue no. most of them first of all got their wealth and acquired their

wealth because of the blessing of the russian government and whether it was under him or now under putin. certainly they kept it. >> it's semi privatized. >> it's privatized, but the understanding is if you have a lot of money, you got it because the government let you do what you did business-wise and a lot of it was brokering and buying aluminum or selling natural gas and taking a cut. a lot of these guys made money as a middle man selling gas. the gas was sold from russia to ukraine. these middle men made a lot of money and understood they were doing it because the russian government let them engage in this business. >> do any of these guys have a political agenda or putin with the agenda and they are motivated by money? >> they are motivated by money. if it gets political, putin thinks he can't trust them, they have quickly a personal political agenda and they have

to duck for cover. many of the olegarks who suspected putin in the past have turned against them or he turned against them. some have turned up dead of heart attacks and others are living in exile and fear. there is a pack that putin made. you can make your money. this is when he came to power in 2000. understand that any money you have, if the state needs that money, we might call on you to give that money back. for the sochi olympics, for example, you have to donate. he opens the pot and they have to put money in. >> for you don't, it is noted on a score card. >> exactly. they can also skim off the government and make money off of sochi too. >> this was trying to get at the manafort angle. it's confusioning. there is russians and ukrainians and it's a bunch of smoke, but there is no connectivity. >> not yet.

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time for lid panel is back. there has been a growing list, we're up to 30 democrats that have come out against the gorsuch nomination both in the filibuster want iing to filibusr it and being against five of the red state democrats. there's five other red state democrats. so, do democrats ruth, do they

have the votes to force this change? >> do democrat haves the votes to force the change. >> and lose later. >> yes, is the short answer to your complicated question. they, i think that republicans will not be able to get 60 votes to stop the filibuster. and that therefore, mitch mcconnell will be pushed to do something that he'd rather not have to do, but probably going to happen eventually any way, which is so use this nuclear option to lower the threshold to 51 votes and that is -- >> then they get -- >> not only, this -- it's not the question of whether they get this nominee. they get the next nominee. >> this to me is the most interesting point about this debate. doesn't seem to me like democrats are playing the long ball on the supreme court. neil gorsuch is such a qualified person. people like him. he's had i think less conflict than anyone on the supreme court

that i can remember, at least any republican nominee. not that alito or roberts had a lot of con fliktflict, but they more than gorsuch so why they don't let this go through, just thinking politically, i don't understand the democrat's strategy. >> one more aspect. they've drawn on health care, on russia, arguably the budget. they've got momentum. this is going to be a loss. the question is how do they lose? >> it is how do they lose, but they're facing a base that really wants them to do this. i've even talked to people who are both hillary clinton supporters and bernie sanders supporters. they do not want to see think democratic senators voting for somebody who they feel is going to be sitting in a stolen seat. this goes back b to the idea there were protesters outside chuck schumer's home when he voted for even someone who was going to be in the cabinet. >> elizabeth warren, ben carson. >> the politics of primaries

today make it very tough for anybody with future ambitions to support you know, a qualified person for the supreme court. it makes it very tough. >> the u.s. senate, you were a beat writer. you were the senate reporter that i -- i mean, bob casey and bill nelson are not the type of guys that are filibuster people. at least i wouldn't -- ten years ago and here they are doing it. >> that is a sign of the times that we live in. i covered two of the most intense supreme court hearings of all time. robert bork and clearance thomas. guess what did not happen in those hearings? no filibusters. >> very nice, thank you. after the break, another place republicans are making it harder to repeal obamacare. stay tuned.

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in case you miss eed it, repeal and replace might be hitting another hurdle. some are actually working to make obamacare stronger. how? there are currently 31 states participate in the medicaid expansion part and that number could soon go up. even in a few states president trump won. we know of at least three states with republican controlled state ledge islators, kansas, georgia and virginia. add in wisconsin, where scott walker has not ruled it out either. folks, once you give people coverage, it becomes harder for

people to take it away and republicans might find themselves more boxed in next time. we saw how much power these republican governors had in medicaid expansion states over this process. so, if you're in a state that didn't do it, rsht you now incentivised to do it before the rules change? yet, another piece of the fallout from the health care debacle. that's all for tonight. back tomorrow with more. for the record with greta starts now. >> thank you, chuck and tonight, he is not backing town. the chairman of the house intelligence committee. he is under intense pressure to recuse himself from the investigation. >> why not recuse himself? >> i still don't know why. you guys give me a reason, i might consider it. >> will you share your source, reveal your source? >> we will never reveal sources? >> even to member of the committee? >> nope. >>