let's make it an annual tradition. you are on. that will do it for this hour in new york. a reminder, just over an hour from now. lindsey graham will be on with greta van susteren. if it's wednesday, it's all about that base. tonight, under obstruction. >> democrats have begun. democrats built a constructive plan to block the president's agenda? or could it come crashing down? plus, the senate intel panel pushes forward on russia. >> vladimir putin's goal is a weaker united states. >> but don't dare conflate it with the house investigation. >> let me set the ground rules real quick. we will not take questions on the house intelligence committee. >> and election blind spot. the surprising reason ideas some democratic pollsters could not

see ahead to the trump victory. this is "mtv daily" and it starts right now. good evening. welcome. i'm chuck todd in washington. tonight republicans in congress and the president are at their own impasse. that means democrats have an opportunity but also at a cross roads. president trump is running out of options within his own party. he was road blocked on health care in the house by both the left and right flanks of the gop of now he's realizing he might need build a bridge to droots get around it. a point he seemed to acknowledge last night at a reception of senators and their spouses at the white house. >> that i know we're you goi to make a deal on health care. it is such an easy one. i have no doubt that will happen very quickly. i think it will. it will happen. we'll be doing a great job. hopefully it will start bei

bipartisan because everybody wants the same thing, greatness for this country that we love. so i think we'll have some very good relationships. right, chuck? hello, chub. >> but can the president find any willing partners across the aisle? like chuck schumer. the democrats have an opportunity. they are calling to stand up. and look at how it has worked health care this past week. then there are all the press president's problems. calling for the white house and the republicans on the hill. the president's legislative agenda is stalled. there are two special plekss might flip house seats from red to blue. now democrats have to decide how they can best capitalize on this moment document they take advantage of the president's perhaps desperation by cooperating with him in order to perhaps get some legislative wins? or do they let their base lead them and obstruct on everything

that president the wants no, matter what, hoping it is good politics for them and maybe they win an election or. two we might get a hint next week in the president's supreme court nominee, judge gorsuch. he was on the hill meeting with democrats. 30 democrats opposing even bringing him to the floor for a vote. including five democrats who are up for re-election in 2018 in states that trump won. and that could force senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to decide to trigger the so-called nuclear option. get rid of the filibuster altogether. go? white house is setting it up as a partisan showdown with democrats to blame, calling it blatant political obstruction. >> they are claiming a 60-vote standard for his confirmation. that standard doesn't exist and these claims continue to be false. a party line filibuster by the senate majority is not an up or

down vote. >> this has less to do about that and a lot fwood what happened last year. following base, it ushered democrats into power. it might be the best political strategy for the droots wemocra win in 2018. you have to figure out how to govern. publics are learning that isn't so easy when you allow the base to elect everybody. now democrats have to decide. is this how they want to gain power back? by doing exactly what they criticized the other side for doing for nearly eight years? joining me now, one of those red state democrats who is opposing judge gorsuch's nomination. welcome to the show. >> always good to be with you. >> give me your rationale. why will you not bring him to the floor? why will you not vote to bring his confirmation to the floor for a vote? i get opposing him on iue

grounds. >> first i'm going to say that seven of the eight current supreme court justices had over 60 votes in their process. both with every president who, from president clinton, george w. bush, to president obama. this is about getting a nominee who can get 60 votes. from my perspective, this is someone that has always sided with big institutions, big corporations, entities. you know the case of the truck driver in michigan who unfairly was fired. six different judges said he was unfairly fired and then it got judge gorsuch and he had sided with the company. this was a gentleman who was essentially freezing to death in the cold and trying to get some help. or the child who is trying to get special education and their parents are concerned, the entire supreme court had ruled

against a standard judge gorsuch set up in ruling against the child. so there's case after case after case. in my book, this is somebody out of the main stream. we should have a nominee that can get a bipartisan 60-vote threshold. that's really what we said when we were in the majority. we didn't change rules in the supreme court because we get it should be 60 votes. >> but senator, there is nothing written anywhere that says a supreme court justice has to be confirmed on a bipartisan vote. >> that's true. i think if you ask the american people they would say that though. in terms of of what's goin if i asked the people of miig, what would you like the see, an extreme jud one way or the other or someone who can be main streamed, they want someone in the main stream. >> one person's main stream candidate is another person's extreme candidate for what it's

worth. >> you've made a case to me. why not go to the senate floor, have this debate. maybe fund a campaign to try to convince three or four republicans to join you in this. why not give him an up or down vote? >> in my perspective, this is to say no. go back to the drawing board. that's what president trump should be doing. working with the minority leader. that's what orrin hatch did with president clinton did to get a main stream candidate. that's what advice and consent means. we have the capacity to say no, we don't want to bring this person forward. we think they're out of the main stream. and i'm doing that and i believe i'm doing it on behalf of the people of michigan who wants someone who will give the little guy a fair shot. and not always be the big inls constitution. >> i get the case against him.

i don't understand the not giving him an up or down vote. this was complaint democrats made to mitch mcconnell who made this decision not to give a qualified supreme court nominee a confirmation hearing or up or down vote. why not give this person an up or down vote? >> well, first of all, what we said was, with merit garland, have the courtesy to meet with hill. have hearings. do the reviews. we never even got that far to talk about whether or not there would be a 60-vote threshold. because they left the court nonfunctioning for over a year by not even consideng a nominee. so to me, that's something completely parate. >> what i'm saying is, do two wrongs make right? >> it is not about wrong or right. it is not about wrong or right. >> why not give an up or down vote? >> because i believe that he is wrong for the peel al of michig and i'm going on use the

capacity i have to say no at every level. >> as you know, this will probably trigger the so-called nuclear option. we will no longer have the senate as america's cooling saucer. >> there is no reason this has to happen. this is mitch mcconnell's decision to make. when the senate democrats have that choice to make, we said no. that there should be a 60-vote threshold so there's a bipartisan vote. >> didn't we get, didn't we go down the road of a slippery slope here when the decision was made by harry reid to say -- you know what? we're tired of the obstruction on the lower courts. so we're going to get rid of this filibuster. it was inevitable that this was going to be the reaction of the other side once they got power dhfs morning many people made including your former colleague. >> what i would say is that we made the decision.

the conscious decision, thoughtful, debated in our caucus that it was better for the country to keep the 60ote thresh holed on the highest court in the land, lifetime appointment. and that's something that mitch mcconnell can decide and his caucus can decide as well. for me the most important thing is having the right person on the bench. it is not about process. people at home in michigan aren't looking at process. they're looking at, is this person going to make the right decision some are they impartial? do they have the right values? for me the answer is no on this particular nominee. >> what do you make of this, understand the larger argument you're making but this is one you may lose. and at the end of the day, ideologically, gorsuch isn't going to change the make-up of the court if you say, because he is replacing scalia, and you change the filibuster fire for a future potential opening. >> well, when you're talking

about process, i guess the big question is, is mitch mcconnell going to do this at any time? i don't know. he has to make decision. what ought to happen is that if you have a nominee that can't get 60 votes, you should change the nominee and not change the rules. that's the bottom line. >> one question on president trump and the rhetoric he is putting out to democrats. when will you take it seriously? >> well, i've reached out and said i will bring jobs home that i've introduced several times to. close loop thoels bring jobs back to america ask said i want to work wityou on that. in the past, replins have blocked it. but president trump is talking as if he supports. that and i'm willing to work whil. if it is jobs coming back to america, if it is lowering costs and improving health care

instead of taking it away from people, then i am very happy and i know colleagues are happy as well to work him. >> do you feel pressure from the base to be skeptical of anything they're offering? >> well, at this point i see everything through the lens of michigan. we need jobs, we need lower the cost of prescription drugs and health care and make sure people's health care continues to improve. i'm going to make decisions based on that. i understand, i'm excited about all the enthusiasm from people across the country. it is amazing, frankly. it resulted in what happened on friday. people speaking out for themselves and their families about not wanting to lose the ability to see a doctor medical care. so i love that. ultimately for me, it is about what's best for michigan. >> all right. as always, thank you for coming and sharing your views. >> absolutely. >> so let's talk about what we just heard.

chris clayton, policy editor, usually based in glenwood isle. and michael steele, former chairman of the rnc and msnbc political analyst. well, there you go. breaking the filibuster. it will happen. and the republican there's say harry reid started and it did it. this is on mitch mcconnell. >> and she finally gave you an answer there, why not have an up or down vote on bringing to the floor, and eventually her answer s i'm going to use the powers available to me to say no on every level. and that's, that is the lesson, right or wrong, that democrats have taken from this entire experience. that there is no percentage in it for them to -- gorsuch should be that 60-vote candidate. right? in the old days, he would have. even on this guy they're

thinking, it's not worth it. >> this is a different time. do folks care how this is done? is this where the republicans and democrats are right, there's to filibuster anymore. washington is freaking out about and it the rest of the country says whatever, they can't do anything anyway? >> how many times are you having a conversation just at your church or the coffee shop or whatever about gorsuch? none. right? nobody is outraged about anything. nobody has -- seems like a really nice calm guy when he's talking. this is simfully democrats obviously still fuming over had america america garland. this isn't a topic inflaming anybody other than the true hard core base that was mad last year. >> and this is why i think democrats are doing what they're doing and mitch mcconnell will

do it. and the unintended consequences of this, with the senate is no longer america's cooling saucer. i think, again, that i think the public isn't fully -- it's a big deal. >> it's a big deal that speaks to how washington will function from that moment forward. >> if you like polarization and partisanship, you're going to get it in spades. all day long. >> and what nominees follow from this? >> they'll be extreme. >> in about 20 years, they'll be -- it is all going to be fast i'm trying to come one the right analogy here. >> the problem the dems have, if the president gets two more picks during his material, during the next three years. shift is had profound. one would be important. >> it could be. >> you don't know where the

openings are. donald trump won't be allowed to stray too far off the list. the senate different looking. >> yes, it is. >>er the republicans at that point. >> and the openings could be different, too of this is a one for one essentially. replacing scalia. but if the next opening is kennedy, that's consequential. if the next opening is ruth bader ginsburg, that's even more consequential in terms of the courts. >> it's interesting. if any member of the court was thinking of retiring, one thing these guys and gaza all do of they see this process. i've always believed they say, we'll stay until 2004. i wouldn't be surprised, if they see this mess, they feel duty to

stick. and wait until next presidential election if general to clear up the air. >> pretty much locked if unless there is a real health situation to deal with. >> i think so too. the politics of it is so ugly. the closero an election year. >> and it see like ery time we go through this, it gets nastier and nastier with every candidate. this idea though, i don't know if they'll get punished. >> that remains to be seen. it depends on how state parties and the national party use that politically. if they go back to the things we did in 2010, you can really gain some ground. the democrats are looking at that strategy and how to take those seats. or save them. they can be smart about that. so i'm not sure. to your point earlier about the residents out there in the public, it's not that big now. in an election had cycle, you know everything gets heightened.

>> i'm curious, this idea of the party of no. it worked politically for republicans. will democrats get punished? >> i don't think it works as well for democrats to be the party of no. they don't have that base that will allow them to continually grid lock and stop everything. democrats are generally the party gets government moving. >> it undermines the whole argument about why they would do a better job running things. >> how does that play over time? >> which is why they're having a hard time reconciling with their progressive base of. >> and the guys on the hill. >> the base killed health care. >> effectively. >> we're going to pause. coming up, the house intel russian investigation is stalled to borderline dead, the senate

moves forward. ways wins.

especially in my business. with slow internet from the phone company, you can't keep up. you're stuck, watching spinning wheels and progress bars until someone else scoops your story. switch to comcast business. with high-speed internet up to 10 gigabits per second. you wouldn't pick a slow race car. then why settle for slow iernet? comcast business. built for speed. built for business.

welcome back. congressman devin nunes says he will continue to head up the investigation on the house side if they hold any hearings. despite all the controversy surrounding hill and even though all the democrats in his committee have called on him to step down. well, nunes fired back today. >> trying to figure out who is serious about the investigation.

>> one republican who is usually the one republican on these stories who is not on the intel committee says nunes' credibility is in question and he should recuse himself. he said the white house takes no issue with his actions. >> there's nothing that i see that's problem at knick him conducting an investigation. how he goes about it, when and where he shares things is for the house of representatives. >> in fairness, it would have been news if they had an issue with it. they have asked him to recuse himself. wait until you see what the senate is doing when you'll realize neighbor house investigation may not be as relevant. i wanted to know who i am and where i came from. i did my ancestrydna

and i couldn't wait to get my pie chart. the most shocking result was that i'm 26% native american. i had no idea. just to know this is what i'm made of, this is where my ancestors came from. and i absolutely want to know more about my native american ritage. it's opened up a whole new world for me. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. with e*trade you see things your way. you have access to the right information at the right moment. and when you filter out the noise, it's easy to turn your vision into action. it's your trade. e*trade.

the house intelligence investigation into russian interference stalled this week. the senate intelligence committee is now revving up ahead of the hearing. senator burr and warner held a joint press conference. that in itself being news. the chairman is that vice chairman appearing together. but the overarching message was we are not the house intelligence committee and this is not a witch hunt. >> what i've been remarkably proud of is that the committee on both sides of the aisle, every member, the level of seriousness that they put into this work, the attention that they've given and the commitment as well. >> we're not asking the house to play any role in our investigation. we don't want to play a role in their investigation. the committee said their

festafrs are pouring through thousands of documents. the staff has been provided an unprecedented amount of documents. those documents include documents that up to this point have only been shared with the gang of eight and staff directors on the house and senate side. it is safe to say that our staff currently is working through thousands of raw intelligence and analytic products. >> it is a big deal for the senate committee to have access to the gang of eight documents. they are usually only shown to the highest people in congress. the two top ranking that's the on the intelligence committee, plus the ranking members of each party's committee. schumer, mcconnell, pelosi and ryan plus nunes and schiff. they did not go into details

about their findings so far. however, take a listen to this. >> some of the techniques that russia used in this election, as we find more and more, would send a chill down anyone who believes in the democratic process in this country or around the world. >> the intelligence committee isn't the only senate entity focusing on russia this week. an appropriations sub committee heard from a putin critic who claim he was poisoned twice for speaking out against the russian regime. john sxhk lindsay graham, the bash brothers on all things russia-related, didn't squandered the opportunity to take on putin. >> it is very clear that putin has decided that he will eliminate his opponents and anyone who stands up for democracy and freedom, and he does so with relative impunity.

>> they will kill, they will steal, they will do whatever is necessary to stay in power. >> i bring back the panel. i'll start with you. the state department is part of your beat. we were talking about how the senate is about to blow up and become a 100 member version of the house. this was a case where the senate looked like the adults in the room. and that was what they were trying to portray themselves as. >> yes. they were trying, to both of them project the idea that not only is their committee and the senate in general competent to handle this very complicated sprawling investigation. but they could do it together. that was the approach to at least begin this investigation. the main thing i took away from the press conference is this will take a really long time. reams of documents,

unprecedented numbers of documents. to your page, a whole lot more people looking at them. >> i have plenty oeo saying no, one cares about this investigation. this is an obsession of the beltway. and maybe they will. my retort was, nobody cared about watergate until they did. >> can i just run away? it is a difficult thing. i was talking with people over the weekend who were very much part of trump's base and they do not care. this is all smoke and mirrors. all the noise. trying to find a scandal. everybody else who is not part of that hard core trump base looks at this with a lot more puzzlement and fear, obviously, if you're taking the situation seriously with russia, there's an element of fear of just

exactly what does putin want and what's going on? she just indicated how complicated this is. when you read an article about it, you're trying to put together first, all these really complex russian names. what they did, who got money from whom. >> three names! >> you're scratching your head. all these guys had a tie to russia. >> it's interesting. michael steele, the white house had a lot of allies in the house hearing. you can see it. not just nunes. there was a lot of skeptics that were channeling it. that's not the case with the senate intelligence committee. this is a different set of republican who's are not necessarily worried about just protecting the white house. >> which is why annul of folks are concerned about the blow-up of the house intelligence committee. that was a safer play. now you're shifting a lot of the

emphasis and focus, they're going to be a little more mature and adult about this process. they come to the table with a higher degree of seriousness that they command. and when you have names like mccain and rubio and others who will be opining on this and digging in to this, it does elevate the seriousness. and people take it more to heart and pay attentn. now will be interesting to see how itla out when you have senators fromhe party and going out on shows like "meet the press". there's going to be moments when there's a hearing and it will be roger stone and there's jared kushner and these moeksments. if you're trying to get your legislation off the ground, russia is this 50,000 pound weight on your ankle. >> yeah. they're dragging this around

behind them. politically they don't seem to have an answer or a quick strategy to say, well, spicer tried at the beginning. well, we're going on let congress investigate. now congress is investigating. so they have to have a different answer now. and it is more than half the white house briefing every day. the questions about, you know, to your point, complicated -- >> every day, wait a minute. now cyprus is involved? the country, not a tree, right? >> with democrats particularly, and republicans as well, who keep saying, no, keep your eye on the ball here. russia tried influence the outcome of the united states election had for its own benefit. >> let's get out of trump versus clinton. this is about what putin wants. >> exactly. >> and why. >> that will resonate much more with that trump supporter in red

america across the country than anything else. and that's why all the distraction and diversionary conversation that has been sort of put up by the white house, and now with the house intelligence committee is taking people's eye off that particular point. >> we'll take another pause. the next hour, for the record, with greta. senator lindsey graham will talk about his hearing today and the latest on all things russia. still ahead, surprising reasons behind the democratic party's belief that they may have been polling blind in rural america. my day starts well before

i'm in the kitchen. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. i need to shave my a1c i'm always on call. an insulin that fits my schedule is key. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ (announcer) tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. don't use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients.

don't share needles or insulin pens. don't reuse needles. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause dizziness, swtiting, confusion, and headache. check your blood sugar. low blood sugar can be serious and may be life-threatening. injection site reactions may occur. tell your prescriber about all medicines you take and all your medical conditions. taking tzds with insulins like tresiba® may cause serious side effects like heart failure. your insulin dose shouldn't be changed without asking your prescriber. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, fast heartbeat, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue, orhrhroat, dizziness, or confusion. ask your health care provider if you're tresiba® ready. covered by most insurance and medicare plans. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪

welcome back. the united kingdom has officially started that brexit process. unlike many divorces, it will not be quick or easy. britain's envoy delivered a letter to the president, donald tusk today. it is the beginning of a two-year process for the country to begin withdrawing from the eu and provide a new framework between the parties. speaking of brexits, guess what entity of the united kingdoms talking about independence again? ou friends in scotland. the tumult in the uk may not be coming to an end soon. we'll have more. but first the market wrap. thanks. stocks closing mostly higher as

the uk begins that process. the dow down by 42. the nasdaq up by 22 points. first look at blue origin, a space capsule that could be taking you into space next year is from amazon's jeff bezos. the cost of the ride is still unknown. and the release of the new smartphone saying it is coming very soon. this is all we've seen of the android. it is the top money maker in apps. that's first on cnbc, first in business worldwide. . too bad. we are double booked: diarrhea and abdominal pain. why don't you start without me? oh. yeah. if you're living with frequent, unpredictable diarrhea and abdominal pain, you may have irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea, or ibs-d. a condition that can be really frustrating. talk to your doctor about viberzi, a different way to treat ibs-d. viberzi is a prescription medication you take every day

that helps proactively manage both diarrhea and abdominal pain at the same time. so you stay ahead of your symptoms. viberzi can cause new or worsening abdominal pain. do not take viberzi if you have or may have had: pancreas or severe liver problems, problems with alcohol abuse, long-lasting or severe constipation, or a blockage of your bowel or gallbladder. if you are taking viberzi, you should not take medicines that cause constipation. the most common side effects of viberzi include constipation, nausea, and abdominal pain. stay ahead of ibs-d... with viberzi.

youthat's why you drink ensure. sidelined. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.

democrats will get the chance to test the strength of the sentiment as well as the ability to target voters in trump's america. it was alarmly supported by rural voters. . without college degrees. though hillary clinton won the popular vote, much came from the

coastal and urban enclaves. in 93 counties, they were in the critical states of michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. according to a report from the centrist think tank. leading to election day, most public surveys consistently showed clinton leading in those states. today some democratic pollsters are admitting that they had a blind spot with rural voters. not necessarily missing where they would turn out but missing the numbers and the polling altogether. i want to get deep entire this. the partner at the democratic analytics firm, clarity campaign labs. he has done work. >> when i heard that you had a rural blind spot. explain what that was. wasn't as if you were trying to hold these people. >> we know that it is an

important part of the electorate. the trouble is the surveys we give to rural voters, we give them to voters in every state are designed in such a way that a lot of rural w college voters choe to opt out of the survey. they don't participate. a lot of folks will tell you, i'm voting for donald trump. i'm voting for these candidates. when you start to dig into why. who do you think stands up for your values, there's a group of people. it is small. not the entire electorate. a lot of folks will tell you for hours and hours. >> is it 1 in 5? about 1 in 10, i think, that folks that won't engage. >> and this is concentrated in the rural counties. >> in the rural noncollege white voters. the kind of people who will talk to strange betters politics. just aren't representatives of the ones who voenlt. i doesn't mean they won't he

vote but 15 minutes to a strange order a land line telephone trying to understand why. they arement onni ment oopting . >> we decided to make sure that no matter what the raw data was in on the rural vote, we upped the percentage of whatever it was of our survey. it was why we got closer. plus two. actually, closer for our national poll than four years earlier we didn't want to but we didn't have as many completed interviews in rural america. >> that's a big part of it. with every survey, we're doing for a political client. it is easy to cut corners. for any pollster to do that. just take the people hamer to talk to you. that tends for more coast or

people with college degrees. >> and people willing to defend. >> exactly. we're missing our conservatives. they're happy to tell you. but people who usually vote for republican may not think of themselves in that term and don't want to engage. >> so is the big working theory this? if you're trying to test messages, or trying to understand why donald trump is doing well, or not well in a certain area. that you can't do it with traditional polling? go to focus group land? >> we've assumed that you can talk on 800 people. give them 20 minutes of message testing about a race six months pout they weren't thinking about when we called them west assumed that was possible and they would somehow be magically representative. >> if you want to do survey work and you only care about the horse race. a five-second survey.

>> three if you can get away with it. >> and that's the only way. >> we've asked them to do two things. to tell us where the race is and what to do about it. we're seeing we have to separate that. to have one survey to say are we winning in wisconsin the way we think we are, and are the people willing to talk to us about politics. it is mostly partisan who's will engage in it. a lot of people have strong opinions but they won't always share about it of. >> i've wondered about it. >> i'll glad you're willing to share. >> glad to be here. >> already. we'll check back. >>stead, why i'm obsessed with the ghost of bridgegate. termites, feasting on homes 24/7.

we're on the move. roger. hey rick, all good? oh yeah, we're good. we're good. termites never stop trying to get in, we never stop working to keep them out. terminix. defenders of home. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain,

or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have a sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis. i'm obsessed with the ghost bridgegate and chris christie. this scandal will likely follow him the rest of his career. he's tried to run away again and again. it obviously deraid his presidential campaign. it arguably kept him away from vp, a job that he secretly wanted. and ahead of the transition effort. today was supposed to be governor christie's big day to finally be a member in some form of the trump white house.

the president tapped him to lead a commission on the nation's opioid epidemic. but once again he couldn't get away from bridgegate. today was the sentence diego or the two very close aides who have been stuck taking fall for the scandal. bridge yet kelly got 18 noes prison plus probation. they' these were the fall guys. from the beginning, christie has done everything under the sun to pretend that he had nothing to do with this. >> i am embarrassed and humiliated by the conduct of some of the people the on my team. i delegate enormous authority to my staff. >> i had nothing to do with this. and i am so disappointed that this has happened. >> people who work for me made some significant mistakes many

judgment. >> what happened was not approved by me and would never be approved by me. >> as soon as i found out, i fired the people who were responsible. that's what you expect from a leader. they tried to blame somebody else. they tried to blame me. and it wasn't true then. it's not true now. i'm done with this. this is over. the people of new jersey know it's er. >>ne thinge's finding out, it is never over. this probably won't be over for him until he's done being a politician. we'll be right back. america's beverage companies have come together to bring you more ways to help reduce calories from sugar. with more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all, smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and signs reminding everyone to think balance before choosing their beverages. we know you care about reducing the sugar in your family's diet, and we're working to support your efforts. more beverage choices.

smaller portions. less sugar. balanceus.org.

when it comes to heartburn... trust the brand doctors trust. nexium 24hr is the #1 choice of doctors and pharmacists for their own frequent heartburn. for all day and all night protection... banish the burn... with nexium 24hr. time now for "the lid." the panel is back. all right, michael steele, there is a new ad campaign out by the trump super pac. i think we have a quick clip of it. if we do, let's play it.

>> america must put its own citizens first, because only then can we truly make america great again. >> he hit another new low in gallup again today so having his super pac come out, do you think it's a good ad? >> that's a good ad. the driving beat. it touts this is energy. this is a pulse that is reaching out across the country. >> is it the opening to wwe monday night raw? >> that's his voter, that's america, that's the middle of the country. it is the reddest spot of the planet and he plays right to it. >> but he's touting 298,000 jobs. okay, that's like no different than the job numbers we've had

over the last three years. there isn't a lot -- i got out of tpp. okay. there's no new health care bill, there's no new tax cuts, there's no infrastructure spending yet. >> to which they would say you're the problem. you know, this ad is meant to bolster their argument that they are getting things done that they don't get credit for. yes, we would nitpick each one of those things and say that isn't really a great job. >> it's branding. >> how's it going to play? >> it's going to play very well, honestly. it's going to play very well with particularly in pretty much most of the states that he won. there's a lot of optimism out there right now among people in rural america. and it might not have to do necessarily with the economy that some of the folks are facing, but there's a lot of optimism mainly because we're

seeing the rulatory issues dealt with. >> what's happening at the epa makes the voters you cover more closely than us have seen. >> they're very excited about the waters of the u.s. rule, which is very complicated. a lot of them support getting rid of the clean power plan, except for the fact that most of the companies right now are supporting renewable energy more. even as trump made the announcement of the clean power plan, anheuser-busch announced all of its beer breweries are going 100% renewable energy. >> what happens in rural america, particularly in farming country, when the trade upheaval begins? that's where we're going to start seeing some potential conflict, right? >> yeah, you've got mexico trying to work out some deals now with brazil and argentina. well, we sending a lot of products to mexico. they are our number one consumer for a lot of goods. and if we continue to push and prod on that and south america

is going to come in and say, yeah, we can supply you on some of these things. we will lose out. >> just real quick reality and rhetoric, two very different things. in that area especially you're going to see it. >> he's sitting at 35%. he kind of needs something. what's the good of having these super pacs if they're not going to spend their money. >> and the people watching the ad are not going to quibble as we would, and that's the point. >> all right, guys. thank you. another show almost in the books. after the break, a win for women's hockey. stay tuned.

what's the best way to get two servings of veggies? v8 or a fancy juice store? ready, go! hi, juice universe? one large rutabaga, with eggplant... done! that's not fair. glad i had a v8. the original way to fuel your day.

pcountries thatk mewe traveled,t what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything. i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark? because i'm everything. and i marked other. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com.

in case you missed it, the u.s. women's hockey team members are winners on and off the ice. after 15 months of negotiations, they struck an historic four-year deal with hockey last night. they had been threat noing to boycott the championships that start this week. according to an nhl agent, the u.s. men's team was considering boycotting in solidarity if a deal could not be breached. the team captain called a living wage and benefits equal to what the men's national team receives. plus the creation of a new advisory group that will help advance women and girls in the sport. now the three-time defending world champion team usa will go up against reigning olympic champions canada this friday. always fun. we'll be watching. but remember why this mattered

and good for the men for sticking up for the women here. there's a lot of opportunity for professional men hockey players to make money around the world. not as many opportunities for women there. on usa hockey, why not make sure they are at least on equal footing there. that's all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow. "for the record with greta" and her big lindsey graham interview starts right now. greta. >> thank you, chuck. house intel chairman nunes under fire and it's getting hotter and hotter and hotter. but the senate intelligence committee is making news today on its russia probe. >> we have devoted seven professional staff positions to this investigation. to date, we have made 20 requests for individuals to be interviewed by the committee. as we stand here today, five are alady scheduled on the books. e only individual who's publ been identified to date is jared kushner.