city. the ranking democrat is skeptical of mike flynn's request for immunity saying it's unclear if flynn can add anything to the investigation of russia cease interference in the 2016 selection. committee chairman nunes blasted today by john mccain who says that nunes has killed any heart of a bipartisan investigation. >> this is why we need a select committee, martha. every time we turn around, another shoe drops from this. >> plus the senate judiciary committee they're set to vote on the nomination of neil gorsuch to the supreme court. that's going to set the stage for a showdown between republicans and democrats on the senate floor. >> neil gorsuch will be confirmed this week. how that happens depends on the democrats friends. >> it's lightly unlikely -- highly unlikely he'll get 60

votes. >> take a listen to this. >> it certainly is is an attempt to distract and to hide the origin of the materials, to hide the white house hand. the question is of course why. i would tell people whenever they see the president use the word fake it ought to set off alarm bells. >> today deputy white house spokesperson sarah huckabee sanders responded. >> you're saying there was no reluctance by the white house to share this classified material with the ranking democrat on the house intel committee? >> not that i'm aware of at all. if there wasn't something of substance, he would have walked out that moment from the white house and come out and declared that this was a big waste of time and a big dog and pony show. >> kelly o'donnell is at the white house for us. the president is reacting to the issue and others today, he took to the twitters of fear. which he did on a weekend. >> it was interesting today that not only did he talk about surveillance and leaks which is what he wants the focus to be about, with respect to issues like russia, urging everyone to

not be looking at ties -- potential ties if they existed between some of his associates and russian figures. but he also brought up health care again. that stands out because a little over a week ago there was that big defeat on capitol hill. where the president and speaker ryan could not get enough republicans to support their plan to repeal the health care law. then told us that was all going to be on hold, moving on to other issues. like tax reform. well, today the president tweeted about health care and even more interestingly, he went golfing today and that's unusual for the white house to tell us he went golfing but he brought along senator rand paul who had oppose that bill and the budget director, mulvaney who is critical in the planning of the big agenda items. we're told parts of the golf outing was to talk about the health care. sarah huckabee sanders talked about why the president has been critical of the freedom caucus that group of house republicans who were opposing the repeal

bill and why that's appropriate she thinks for the president to push back. >> this president made bold and big commitments during the campaign and he wants the members of his party to get on board with that. these are the same guys that also campaigned on repealing and replacing obamacare. we have an opportunity to do that. so let's do that. >> so the president in his tweets said that the conversations are continuing about health care. but we don't have any expectations about when a bill reviced or not revised or not w brought up about. we know that president trump has been critical of president obama for his golf outing and his a e aides were reluctant would say that he was actually golfing. today they told us he was playing golf and he was doing with it the two partners. senator rand paul and mick mulvaney. that's a bit of a change in how they'red a directing the

thing -- addressing the things and talking about health care. richard? >> kelly thank you so much. kelly o'donnell at the white house for us on this sunday. also new today, "the new york times" reporting fired national security adviser michael flynn failed to report income from russian linked entities on one of two financial disclosure forms released yesterday. congressional sources tell nbc news the senate intelligence committee turned down the initial request for immunity as well. telling flynn's lawyer that the request was quote, wildly preliminary. the president tweeted his support for flynn calling the investigations a quote, witch-hunt. today a spoebkesperson said eve if he's granted immunity, russia is not worried. >> are you worried about anything he might say about his contacts in russia? >> no, we're not. any blamings that russia could have been interfering in domestic affairs of the united states is slander. >> joining us to discuss the

national political reporter for bloomberg politics and john wagner, white house reporter for "the washington post.post." it is not common to see the kremlin spokesperson on national tv on a sunday and in this case having to react to at this moment michael flynn's potential immunity or the very discussion thereof. what did you take from that? >> well, it is certainly unusual to see that happen. but we have reached a position where every intelligence agency in the united states government believes that russia did deliberately meddle in the united states election to achieve a particular result so of course, you know, the russians have been on the defensive about this. there's no smoking gun to defend they did this. the president has to answer for this and he's been tweeting a lot about it. almost every day. he views this as a distraction and it's hurting his agenda on capitol hill. his approval rating is between 35 and 40% and many americans have questions on this. a recent poll showed the majority of the country wants to have an independent

investigation outside of congress so you don't have essentially republicans investigating republicans. it's a big cloud hanging over his head. >> it's a very busy week for this administration and for the hill. yet, russia still seems to be that overhang at the moment and then he tweets about something that's already -- if you will, passe because it happened, you know, a week and a half ago. that was the ahca. your thoughts on how they're trying to get back on track? >> it's a big distraction. health care aside, he wants to push some sweeping tax reforms and, you know, big infrastructure package. so this is -- you know, potentially taking away from his opportunity to make the case for those. but in other respects a lot is still going on. the president is scheduled to meet this week with three world leaders. and there's likely to be a vote on his supreme court pick. so there will be plenty of other headlines coming out of the week

as well. >> one of the questions here is although we are in april, we're just starting it, we're also in the month that will mark 100 days of this presidency. and how crucial is this week in that first 100 days? >> it's a very crucial one. i think the last week and a half were crucial as well when we saw the health care bill defeated. essentially pulled from the house floor before it was even voted on and i think the big danger for the white house in this, the big danger for republicans here, the drip drip drip of russian stories and the ongoing investigations sucks the oxygen out of the room. the way to get big things done in congress is to force the lawmakers take a position up or down. don't give them a reason to back away and not engage with the issue. and you know all these stories about russia have made it hard to do with that republicans. on health care, we'll see it on taxes. they ee they're likely to confirm neil gorsuch this week and there may be a filibuster in the senate.

>> here in the white house here, john, what's the mood there? the reports are that jared kushner has been asked to put together an innovation plan and potentially in the next 15, 16, 17 days we might see that. it could mean some more rejiggering in the white house. what's the sense and the mood about how difficult they have had the first 72 or 73 days. they haven't had any wins. >> no, in terms of legislation it's virtually impossible to have a major win by the time we get to 100 days. as far as the mood inside the white house i think, you know, anyone who watches the briefings with sean spicer gets a sense of how testy and contentious things can be. and they're really looking for way ts to get on top of several narratives here. we had news that the deputy chief of chaff katie walsh was moving outside of the white house to an outside group to try and help shape, you know, the story from that angle.

so i mean, they are aware of the fact that at least the public perception of this white house is not what they want it to be. they're trying to right the ship. >> what's the one topic you're watching, starting on monday we have lots of things in motion here. >> so i'll give you two things, one is whether they can revive the health care bill. that's what we saw with president trump meeting with senator paul who has been a big critic and the other big issue is tax reform. this is a big thing that president trump put near the top of his agenda. something that speaker ryan and leader mcconnell want to do. we saw how difficult it was to no night the -- to unite the party on health care, what is the president's big win going to be? >> what's the one big thing you're watching this week? >> i think the gorsuch confirmation will be very interesting. it may be very messy but it will something that can trump as a

victory. see if he can get any momentum coming out of that. >> thank you both for stopping by on a sunday. >> thank you. >> all right. president trump talked tough about china during the presidential campaign. one of the topics we were alluding to. he accused the chinese of cheating americans out of billions so what will he do in a face-to-face meeting with the president of china? will it be blusser -- bluster or diplomacy? per roll more "doing chores for dad" per roll more "earning something you love" per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty, the quicker picker upper starts with turkey covered in a rich flavorful gravy,e president trump talked tough diplomacy? because she knows that when it's cold outside...

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enforcement and sanctions against foreign trade abuses, he has accused china in the past and now and manipulating the currency. the trade deficit with china is the largest among the trading partners. the united states trading partners that is. more than $300 billion. now the president also was talking tough on north korea too. telling t"the financial times" this quote, well if china is not going to solve north korea we will. that's all i'm telling you, end quote. trump was not specific about what action he is contemplating against north korea. but he's expected to take up the issue with chinese president xi jinping when he visits later this week. and trump warned the discussion is -- this could be tough. >> we're going to get down to some very serious business. and we look forward to it. i have spoken to him newseums you -- numerous times on the phone, but it's very bad in terms of our companies and in terms of our jobs so we're going

to turn it around and turn it around fast. >> for more on this i'm joined by gordon chang author of "the coming collapse of china." and we have the asia director. meredith, i should probably ask which donald trump is going to show up at mar-a-lago when he sits across from xi jinping? >> thanks, well, i would expect to see a donald trump that is focused on establishing some sort of rapport with president xi, taking measure and laying down some markers on what his expectations are for the bilateral relationship moving forward. >> what do you think, gordon? is it going to be the donald trump that at least when he met with angela merkel was seen as arr arrow gantd and -- arrow gant and not polite? >> i think in terms of tone he'll try to be charming and get his way through it. but in terms of the issues though, it's going to be very difficult. because on north korea, on

trade, he has identified china. i think correctly as really being the obstacle to the accomplishment of certain goals. he's going to push. both of these guys have reasons to push each other and they're both political. xi jinping is a 19th party congress coming up at at the end of the year and donald trump has a faltering presidency. they both need to have a good meeting. >> it sounds like, meredith, the key issue is going to be economics. the united states, the president of the united states focusing on jobs. focusing on the currency and the trade imbalance. also when you look at china, they're looking at their economy. how can they keep that juggernaut moving? >> right, i would expect at the summit both will focus on a framework through which they can begin to prioritize and to try to make some headway on these core issues. economic ones aside i would expect that north korea and perhaps the south china sea would be mentioned. but as you know, the real risk here is that the expectations, the requests and the politics on

both sides are going to be misaligned when it comes to issues such as what to do about the economic imbalance between the u.s. and china. >> gordon, rex tillerson -- we're seeing the pictures right here, meeting with xi jinping. what did they say, how did he soften the ground for president trump and what's the topic that you think is the lead topic for china and what they want? >> well, i think it's going to be trade for them because their economy is stalling. they're having real problems. they have had to juice it up with helping the manufacturing sector which is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing. so i think that they need to walk away from this without the u.s. imposing costs on the chinese economy for really predatory trade practices and i think from china's view point is most important thing. for trump, trade is important and north korea because it's threatening with its missiles it will be at the top of the

agenda. there's little room for compromise on these issues. >> who is the person who understands china, quote/unquote? it's reported that it's jared kushner. he has business dealings in the past with china. he understands the way they work here. he's got a big portfolio already. is he the one that's going to be able to cobble together some sort of post meeting statement that's going to show that everybody's kumbaya? >> my expectations that there are several people within the administration who have a hand in chai -- on china. so jared kushner is one of them. rex tillerson, secretary of state, another. our new national security adviser mcmaster is probably going to be -- have more of a showing on china moving forward. keep in mind there are other figures in the administration that also they have ideas on china. wilbur ross, peter navarro. and are -- and light howser who hasn't been confirmed as ustr. they have strong ideas on china. i expect coming out of this

summit if president trump is not satisfied by what he has heard from the chinese side on what they're willing to do, to begin to modify some of these gross misbalances in the u.s./china economic relationship, then the risk is that you would see more of the china hawks in the administration having more of a say on what can affect the u.s. and china economic relationship. >> for many when they listen to what the three of us have been talking about will say can you just stop talking deb-- talk ab jobs, a lot of jobs have gone to asia. i'm concerned about jobs for me. and that's why i voted for you. how does he split the difference there, this president? >> i think it's very difficult for him because china with its made in china 2025 initiative, the new cyber security law that was put in place last november, a lot of these things are directed at u.s. policies. and also the wibilateral deals

they have been violated as well. so this gives us very little room to maneuver on this. when you have bannon and navr aero, they -- navarro, they may be right about the direction that beijing is going. >> i would not want to put the agenda together, because the three of us have talked about economics, we haven't even talked about international security or regional security. that would take us to 5:00. so gordon, mere death, appreciate you both. >> all right. hispanic companies bidding for work on the wall, it's a dilemma between principles and pay day. so gordon, mere death,

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thanks for staying with us here on msnbc. i'm richard lui in new york city. since the inauguration,s has been -- msnbc has been hitting the road and trying to gauge the trump country. let's go to nbc's von, and the big issue for the next week, i'm

very interested with -- what folks are thinking in somer mvie behind you, what they're thinking of neil gorsuch and the supreme court nominee, we could get him confirmed this week. we have the russian investigations and of course the big meeting with china's president. they're thinking about jobs and what that means. what are you hearing? >> reporter: exactly, richard. we're here in south carolina. actually at the flower fest. i think you have seen the last couple of days we have been at town halls, here in south carolina. we came here to a place that politics wasn't on the forefront of everybody's minds and ask them about the supreme court. yesterday, you heard the south carolina senator lindsey graham said he was willing to get a simple majority in order to push neil gorsuch through. i spoke to a yes ban wgentlemand for trump he said he believes they should treat to get the democrats to come over. there's much skepticism over the

roots of russia and the potential connections to the donald trump campaign. here is one gentleman i talked to earlier today. >> that's just [ bleep ] mularkey. i don't believe that crap. they have to blame somebody. that's the way i feel about it. but no, i don't think the russians had anything to do with anything. >> reporter: and talking with that gentleman and several others here, they say they still want to focus on trump's broader agenda and his broader message and broader goals. they say it's only two months in and i want to bring you someone who voted for hillary clinton and what she has to say. >> first of all, i pray for him, our president every day because of his selfishness in running this country that he's not depending on both houses, republicans and democrats, to help him make this country better. >> reporter: what i'll tell you, richard, in honestly talking with the people, the people who

consider themselves some democrats and republicans and liberals and conservatives, anti-trump, it's hard to understand and even decipher which box they fit themselves i believe to. on policy, overwhelmingly, they all believe for the most part, republicans and democrats should do a better job of teaming one donald trump in order to come to a compromise. health care being one of those. for the people it's much more rooted in personal issues. in west virginia, coal industry. trying to find new industry. over, you know, across the board there's different issues that have led people to wanting congress and trump to better work together. >> what's your sense overall, are they watching what's happening in the beltway on the very large issues? and are they being communicated well? you can talk about the folks in south carolina or any other place you have been, are they hearing what's being debated? >> reporter: when it comes to details honestly, richard, there's not much detail in the policy specifically. they know there's issues with the -- with for example the health care system. go over to indiana, they still know there's a huntington plant for carrier that's closing 700

jobs that's on the forefront of people's minds. they don't care about how the problems are solved. that's not to minimize our conversations about the issues or those on capitol hill. but for the most part it's very much broader and the idea of working together. >> it's never been said before here on jobs jobs jobs maybe. a common refrain. i know for many members of congress and politicians. nbc's von hilliard, thank you in somerville, south carolina, good to get a sense of what's happening on the ground. headed back to washington it's setting up big to be a big week for judge neil gorsuch. he faces his first vote a vote in the senate judiciary committee. and the democrats are gearing up for a fight, they're ready to test mitch mcconnell and to see if he'll use the so-called nuclear option to confirm gorsuch. this morning on "meet the press"

mcconnell shifted the liability to the other side of the aisle. >> well, i can tell you is that neil gorsuch will be confirmed this week. how that happens depends on the democratic friends. >> later, chuck schumer made his argument for the 60 vote threshold. >> on the most important of decisions, 60 votes is called for. that's why you get a -- that's how you get a mainstream justice. highly unlikely he'll get 60. >> democratic senator joe d donnelley of indiana announced his support of gorsuch this afternoon. that makes three democrats who are up for election in 2018. joining me is brian darling and columnist at the observer and elizabeth gore. good sunday to you here. and brian, what do you think will be driving these final votes? we still have some democrats, we don't have the full 41 that's needed here. some of them are in red

districts. claire mccaskill moved into the column just on friday saying i am now going to for the filibuster. i support that. what do you see happening this week? >> well, you have two issues. issue number one are red state democrats. you had heitkamp, you had joe manchin who's in a red state. you had some senators who are democrats who are leaning towards voting for confirming and announcing they're going to vote yes. they'll vote against the filibuster because they're worried about their re-election up. others in clearly red states have decided the other way. like mccaskill of missouri. so you've got political considerations that are going to come down and also very important the institution of the senate is under attack. i mean, if you were to get rid of the filibuster it would chip away at the traditional role of the senate. i think the nuclear option probably -- it looks like it will be used. if it's used it should be a last option.

i think one thing overlooked it's possible to force an actual talking filibuster and get back to the traditions of the senate, if democrats want to filibuster this nomination, they should follow the advice of the heritage foundation, rachel bow vard wrote a piece in the hill today she talked about the two speech rule which would enforce a natural talking filibuster. that's what the people want to see. >> elizabeth, your thought on that? >> i think neil gorsuch is going to be confirmed this week but i think he'll be confirmed after senator mcconnell changes the rules. i agree wheith brian. i think it's a mistake. i think it really undermines the role of the senate. listen, the supreme court is -- it's a critical appointment they're dealing with. and they should be able to have some kind of middle ground consensus requirement that's what 60 votes does. the president has come up short in terms of his ability to find a consensus nominee and i think it's going to have a long term

effect on the way that the senate operates and i think that's a real shame. >> but you would have to agree that gorsuch is a very qualified candidate, somebody who's deserving of being in the supreme court. and sadly, democrats brought this on themselves. i mean, in 2013, when then senate majority leader harry reid pulled the nuclear option, he sent the senate down this road. so it's unfortunate we have come to this point and it's breaking the rules to change the rules, but both parties shares guilt in this -- in this act that's going to take away a little bit of what makes the senate great. >> elizabeth -- >> i would just say that there's a difference between a district court judge and a supreme court justice. and the rules should reflect that there's a difference. and i'm not sure that the changes that have -- that senator reid put in place were a great idea. but those are done. now we're looking forward and there's no question that senator

gorsuch is outside the mainstream legal thinking. that's why he can't get 60 votes and so i think that we should start over and try and find somebody who can meet this test of 60 votes in the senate. it's a long standing tradition. an important one. >> but it's not. it really isn't a long standing tradition. i mean, you did have justice alito he was filibustered. he got over 60 votes on the filibuster. you look back to clarence thomas, he was not filibustered, only got 52 votes. it's unprecedented to have the successful filibuster like this. i know -- >> let's leave it with elizabeth now. 15 seconds we have to close this up. although a very good conversation. >> well, i would say that the heritage foundation, the filibuster pcts the rights of all senators and therefore the interests of all americans. the heritage foundation said that in 2011 and interestingly enough it was brian himself who said that. i think he'd be more interested in protecting that. >> it's almost like the two of you know each other.

>> i still believe that. >> and i'll let you go. i had a full list of things to go through. but you covered them all for me. thank you so much. >> thanks a lot. candidate trump called it one of the worst trade deals ever negotiated so you'd think now he has a chance to tear up nafta and start again he'd be chomping at the bit, but it looks like that's another promise that was more show than substance. coming up on "the point" can ari melber, growing up trump, a special panel of young people from all sides of the political spectrum, that's at the top of the hour. yeah, so mom's got this cold.

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appeared to be softening that stance. quote, the hawkish rhetoric of the campaign has given way to more measurement statements on trade, and that track more closely with the stance of many congressional republicans who are avid promoters of free trade and deeply skeptical of policies they view as restrictive or protecti protectionist. we're joined by a cofounder and chief operations officer at the economic cycle research institute. where is the president today on nafta? >> well, i think he will be starting i think from where the ttp had kind of arrived with some tweaks to the older nafta -- >> what tweaks? >> well, i think it's focused on fair trade as opposed to in addition to free trade. so you don't want any dumping. that's one of the key things where another state is kind of dumping -- >> low cost goods. >> low cost goods.

>> artificially. sold at a price below what market rates might be. >> that's one big thing and you want a nice market for the exports. those are key things. they're very reasonable. i think the tpp was trying to do that and that's the starting place. that will be the tweaks to it. however, in the many years since we've had nafta supply chains have been built across all of these three countries, canada, u.s. and mexico which are very, very tight. very critical, hard to break those up. >> yeah. >> which is why the congressional republicans are saying whoa whoa whoa. >> as the second largest manufacturer in the world which is not too far behind china, we have connected to canada and as well as mexico, the big three probably one of the places that this president does not want to upset based on the states that brought him to the white house. >> absolutely. and what's kind of paradoxical here is in mexico, their exports have been actually running up in this last -- the second half 060of 2016. you saw the peso get quite weak

and the exports even more attractive abroad. >> is there a way of tweaking it that -- where he's able to accomplish what he'd like to do and it appears that the tweaks you're aware of they're small enough to keep his base happy? yet fulfill his promise of doing something to nafta? >> i think the concrete thing was tpp withdrawing from that. doing some tweaks on nafta which are in line with that. partly delivering, but i think tearing up nafta and really jeopardizing those supply chains is very risky. because it's kind of -- they're tightly knit. >> right. >> you pull on the thread, the whole thing can unravel. all the unintended consequences. >> it will take time to replug in the capacities in the united states. it could take years or decades. >> i mean, you know, it's like dropping a dozen eggs on the floor. you don't want to do that. >> is this more about the fact that nafta has been around for so long? and that tpp and t tip had yet to start. >> i think nafta is well known.

in fact, after nafta was enacted we gained jobs. gained manufacturing jobs. it was really around the 2001 recession and china's entry into the wto that we began losing manufacturing jobs en masse, around 3 million at the beginning of the decade and then 3 million again of manufacturing jobs. this may be an okay diagnosis, that's unfair trade and in the past it's water under the bridge. we can't get a do over. you're not going to get those manufacturing jobs back. today's manufacturing is very different. >> once it's ott ut of the barn it's tough to make tweaks and changes to it. might be saying the same thing with nafta. finally we highlight a life that was well lived. a world war ii veteran whose heroic actions went unrecognized for many years because of the color of his skin. karl clark died recently at the age of 100.

nbc's hallie jackson has more on clark's life and legacy. >> reporter: karl clark was serving as a steward first class on board the uss and war during world war ii when japanese kamikazes attacked in 1945. six planes hit the destroyer including one that knocked him all the way across the huge ship. he was hurt. but that didn't stop clark from dragging several of his men to safety. then he put out a fire in an ammunition locker that would have split it in half. clark didn't get any recognition when it happened. he said it wouldn't have looked good to say a black man saved the ship. after the war he started the boys and girls club in menlo park, california, becoming not just a cornerstone in his community but across the country. still nobody knew about clark's courage on that ship until he was interviewed for a world war ii documentary and the film maker told clark's story to his congresswoman. on january 17th, 2012 , more thn six decades after he saved the

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thanks for staying with us. the north carolina tar heels face the gonzaga bulldogs in the ncaa basketball championship tomorrow. all of you getting ready for it. gonzaga defeating south carolina in the final four. they'll be making first ever appearance for the national title. north carolina defeated oregon in its final four showdown meanwhile. and will be going for the sixth championship. tar heels ebt enter the matchup as the two point favor over the bulldogs. that's going to be a good night. speaking of odds, we head to the odds capital of the world, las vegas, where there is still a lot of buzz on the blockbuster deal to move the oakland raiders to sin city. nevada taxpayers will partly finance the cost of a new stadium to the tune of $750 million. that's the biggest public

handout ever for an nfl team. indiana taxpayers shelling out more than $600 million for their new stadium for the colts in 2008. but are taxpayers getting anything in return when they help to build these stadiums? the perennial question. well, one study from the conservative taxpayers protection alliance found that in 60% of the cases that they looked at, the poverty rate went up and median household incomes declined in such situations. let's bring in david zimmerman, sports editor at the nation. all right. you nod your head, there dave. do you agree with that report? >> absolutely. it's not the only report that makes that case. i mean everywhere from the cato institute to the brookings institute, these are what the reports show time and again. one of the reports said if you merely dropped a billion dollars on a city, just dropped oint a city and people picked up 5 and $10 bills and spent them, you

would get more economic bang for your buck than spending them on a stadium. it is bad economics. it's bad politics, too. which is why they largely don't do these things if you notice in veg an through referendum. that used to be the practice. you can't do them n 2001 when they were building new stadiums, they asked why isn't there a referendum about this? he said you can't have a referendum on a deal like this because then people won't vote for it. we wised up on these questions. but unfortunately, politicians are still very quick to hand out corporate welfare to pro leagues. >> help me understand this. there is this idea of a franchise halo effect for any city. you got that franchise there. and, therefore, more folks will go to that city that have higher val you've it. it's just like the university of michigan. the wolverines, winningest team in football history that, makes the school more attractive. >> i was going to say, i think you tipped your hand.

go blue. but it's different with city economics. it is a zero sum operation. you take a place like clark kounld koun county, they reebltcently this year didn't pass legislation to keep a school for kids with special needs open. they didn't have enough money to decrease the teacher student ratios. now they say they have money for the stadium. it gets even worse. they're paying foirt by doing a room tax on vegas hotels. now if what you said works out and more people go to vegas and more people are going to the rooms, then it could work. but the flip side of that, what if people say, wow, i don't need to go to vegas for a weekend to go to an nfl team and that room tax makes it maybe prohibitive for my company to go, then where does the money come from? it's not like then mark davis the ownerst raiders says i'll pick up the slack and pay for the rest. then the money has to come out some of where else n this case, a slate did in an autopsy of

this deal it would come out of schools and buses to pay for the stadium. >> do you think it's going to happen? i mean the ever moving raiders of the nfl, will they make that another move in 2017, 2018 moving forward? >> it's a good question. i'll tell you this though. the people of the county where oakland is have a big question facing them. because they still owe $83 million on the oakland stadium and will be paying for it until 2025 and the raiders may be there two or three more years. i don't want to shock anybody. but raiders fans tend to be, let's just say they're not exactly from the fanlting couch and pearl clutching set. it could get crazy the next two or three years. >> the oldest stadium in the league. i've been there for games. it's not a fun place to be at. but raiders fans, strong as you know, dave, better than i, they want that team there. dave, really great conversation. appreciate it.

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